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You're doing all the right things... showing up for your family, your faith, your work, yet still something feels off. You're overwhelmed more than you want to be. Your relationships have the same friction points. You wonder why you keep getting in your own way. Your starting point doesn't have to be your stuck point. The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast with Amy Wicks exists for faith-driven women who are ready to get to the root, not just better strategies, but real transformation from the inside out. Each week, Amy brings honest conversations, personal stories, and the kind of practical wisdom that actually changes how you see yourself and the people you love. The Enneagram is the tool. Christ is the transformation. And you were made for more than just managing your patterns. 🎙️ New episodes every week. Subscribe and start wherever you feel most stuck. Faith-based identity coaching for women who are tired of feeling stuck, overwhelmed, and unsure of who they really are.

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June 16, 202643 min

The Enneagram Six and Certainty | A Six's Wholehearted Journey with Samantha Compton

Send us Fan MailWhat does a Six do when everything she’s built her security on starts to shift at once?Wholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types | Type 6 | Episode 2 of 4In this episode Amy talks with Samantha Compton; a Type Six financial wealth advisor, entrepreneur, and former client whose story is one of the most honest portraits of Six courage you’ll hear. Samantha shares what it actually looked like to launch her youngest, step out of an institution to build her own business, and navigate community change... all while helping other people plan for their financial futures.You’ll hear about:Why Samantha initially struggled to trust her own discernment when every external structure was shiftingThe breaking point that made her realize scanning for danger wasn’t the same as being safeWhat it took to step out on her own professionally when security was her deepest longingHow community loss hit her Six core differently than she expectedThe practices that helped her move from anxiety to groundednessWhat she’d tell a Six who is standing at the edge of a transition that terrifies themThis isn’t about having it all figured out. It’s about discovering that the courage was there all along... even when the fear was louder.God is bigger than your fear. You don’t have to scan the horizon aloneConnect with Samantha Compton:insightwealthkc.comorsamantha@insightwealthkc.com.Support the showRESOURCES FOR YOU:Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wickshttps://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicksNot sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquizEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideConnect with Amy:IGWebsite

June 9, 202629 min

The Courageous Six | The Journey from Fear to Faith with Deanna Sudom

Send us Fan MailWholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types | Type 6 | Episode 1 of 4What does it look like to be the most loyal person in the room... and the most afraid?Amy opens Type Six month with her co-teacher and spiritual director Deanna Sudom, exploring a type that is deeply misunderstood; often seen as anxious or suspicious when they are actually among the most courageous, committed, and trustworthy people you will ever know.You’ll hear about:The Six’s core fear of being without support or trustworthy guidance, and how it shapes every relationshipWhy Sixes aren’t pessimists... they’re realists preparing for a world that has sometimes let them downThe difference between phobic and counterphobic Sixes, and why they can look like completely different typesHow Sixes experience God, and where the search for a trustworthy authority meets the invitation to trustThe gift of the Six’s loyalty, courage, and commitment to communityA practice for Sixes who are ready to move from anxiety into grounded faithWhether you’re a Six yourself or you love one, this conversation is an invitation: God isn’t the authority who will let you down. He’s the one who has never left.God is bigger than your fear. You don’t have to scan the horizon alone.Chat more with Deanna Sudom! https://www.capstonefreedomcoaching.com/Support the showRESOURCES FOR YOU:Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wickshttps://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicksNot sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquizEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideConnect with Amy:IGWebsite

June 2, 202635 min

6 or a 7? What I'm Learning About Self-Awareness at College | a conversation with Payge Wicks

Send us Fan MailWholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types Bonus Episode 6-7Two years ago, Payge Wicks sat down with her mom right after graduating high school, a 17-year-old still figuring out who she was. Today, she's just finished her junior year in college, studying psychology in Phoenix, 18 hours from home, and she has something real to say about what it actually looks like to be a Seven in the most formative years of your life.In this conversation, Amy and Payge pick up the thread they started two years ago, including the great Six vs. Seven question that Payge has been quietly wrestling with ever since and explore what personality awareness, faith, and genuine formation actually look like when you're living in a dorm, navigating roommates, building independence, and figuring out who God made you to be without your family right down the hall.This is a different kind of Seven conversation. Not an expert looking back from a distance, but a Seven in the thick of becoming, with enough self-awareness to name what's actually happening.In this conversation:The 6 vs. 7 question what made Payge wonder, and what living independently finally clarifiedHow FOMO shows up in college in ways you might not expect, including why staying connected to home is genuinely a Seven thingThe psychology of staying: how a Seven commits to something long-term without feeling trappedWhat Payge has discovered about God in the last two years that she couldn't access at 17Roommate dynamics through a Seven lens and how community can actually push a Seven toward growthSelf-awareness as a practical tool: why knowing your type matters when your day feels inexplicably awfulWhat Payge would tell every incoming college student and every parent watching their kid walk across that stageSupport the showRESOURCES FOR YOU:Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wickshttps://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicksNot sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquizEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideConnect with Amy:IGWebsite

May 29, 202639 min

Bonus! | The Self-Pres Seven Nobody Expects | Business, Freedom & the Enneagram with Alli Worthington

Send us Fan MailWholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types | Enneagram Seven | BONUSWhen most people picture an Enneagram Seven, they think confetti cannons and perpetual motion. They do not picture a serious, introverted giraffe who goes a full seven days without leaving the house and runs three coaching calls a day by phone.And yet! That's exactly who Alli Worthington is.In this bonus conversation from Seven month, Amy sits down with author, business coach, and Enneagram Seven Alli Worthington for an honest, unscripted conversation about what the Seven actually looks like when she's self-preservation subtype, and what that means for how she works, leads, and builds community.Alli shares the moment the Enneagram finally clicked for her on the plane. She was weeping over The Road Back to You and realizing that everything she had built her professional life around was designed to destroy an Enneagram Seven. She talks about what it means to achieve for freedom rather than for achievement's sake, how she has built a business that genuinely fits how she's wired, and why curating the right community has been the through-line of everything she's done.It's a lighter, more conversational episode & a bonus in the truest sense. Pull up a chair, friend. In this conversation:What a self-pres Seven actually looks and feels like, and why it surprises peopleThe serious giraffe vs. the confetti cannon, debunking the Seven stereotypeHow entrepreneurship became an accidental personal development journeyThe Road Back to You plane moment that changed everything professionallyAchieving for freedom vs. achieving for achievement's sake the Seven's real motivationBuilding a business and a life that fits how you're wired, not how you think you should workWalt Disney as a Seven entrepreneurial heroThe 2010 Hotel 71 piece of paper and what's still true 16 years laterHow to curate a community well and why the wrong community will destroy everythingAlli Worthington is a business coach, author, and host of the Alli Worthington Show.Support the showRESOURCES FOR YOU:Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wickshttps://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicksNot sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquizEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideConnect with Amy:IGWebsite

May 26, 202633 min

The Seven and Satisfaction | Subtypes, Relationships & Learning to Want What You Already Have with Christa Hardin

Send us Fan MailWholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types | Enneagram Seven | Episode 4 of 4The Enneagram Seven's longing for satisfaction, fullness, and aliveness is real and God-given. But what happens when that longing drives a relationship instead of enriching it? And what does it look like when a Seven finally learns to receive what's already in front of them rather than planning for what's next?In this closing episode of Seven month, Amy sits down with Christa Hardin, Enneagram expert, host of Enneagram in Marriage, fellow Seven, and author of the upcoming The Three Desires, for a conversation that is warm, specific, and full of the kind of insight that only comes from someone who has done deep personal work and spent years helping couples do the same.Together, they unpack how the three Seven subtypes show up very differently in marriage and close relationships, where the Seven's fixation on planning creates friction even when it's well-intentioned, and what it looks like to let God meet the longing rather than letting the longing run the show. Christa also shares her own faith story — including a season of disillusionment with the church, how her husband quietly brought her back in, and why she eventually chose to build her platform inside the Christian space even when it cost her listeners.This one is a beautiful close to Seven month.In this episode:The Seven's core gift in relationship — and the planning fixation that can quietly undermine itHow the three Seven subtypes show up differently in marriage: self-pres, sexual, and socialTime hoarding, family preservation, and the self-preserving Seven who looks like a Five or SixThe sexual Seven's depth and imagination — and the cautionary note that comes with itThe social Seven's nurturing energy — and the blind spot for overcommitmentWhat healthy satisfaction looks like for a Seven in a relationship — vs. what drives a relationship off courseGoing to the Five space — how solitude, gratitude, and reflection anchor the SevenChrista's faith journey — church wounds, a husband who opened the door, and why faith is her foundation for everything she buildsWhat people who love Sevens most need to understand — and the inner critic nobody sees comingA preview of Christa's upcoming book, The Three Desires, releasing February 2027Christa Hardin is the host of Enneagram in Marriage and author of The Three Desires: Reshaping Your Connection, Intimacy, and Teamwork in Your Marriage (February 2027).Connect with Christa! https://www.enneagramandmarriage.com/podcastSupport the showRESOURCES FOR YOU:Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wickshttps://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicksNot sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquizEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideConnect with Amy:IGWebsite

May 19, 202641 min

Running vs. Remaining | Understanding the Enneagram Type Seven with Heather Berg

Send us Fan MailThe Enneagram Seven's instinct is to keep moving. More plans, more options, more yes. Yet underneath it all is a quiet, exhausting belief that if they slow down long enough, something painful will catch up with them.In this episode, Amy sits down with Heather Berg, a Wholehearted Enneagram Coach, trauma-informed practitioner, and Type Seven, to walk the Victim, Villain, Hero, Guide framework through the Seven's unique lens. Heather brings both her professional training and her own deeply personal story: betrayal trauma, a dark night of the soul, a season of chronic pain that literally stopped her in her tracks, and the retreat moment where Amy looked at her and said, "Heather, do you think you could be a Seven?" and then something clicked that felt like meeting herself for the first time in years.This episode is for every Seven who is tired of running and suspects there might be something worth finding if they stopped. It's also for everyone who loves a Seven and wants to understand what's really happening underneath the energy.In this episode:The Seven's victim role, which can look like "monkey" mind, hypervigilance, and the longing to know who will look after me?Why Sevens can't outwit, outlast, or outplay pain, but what happens when they finally stop tryingThe villain role: self-abandonment and how the reframing that protects you can also hurt the people closest to youHeather's betrayal trauma story and the moment she realized she'd been MIA to her own kidsPost-traumatic growth and the heart behind Heather's Created to Move coaching practiceThe fastest way to daybreak and why it means running toward the night, not away from itBig T, little T, and chronic T trauma, and why you don't have to have a dramatic story to feel lostHow to love and support the Seven in your lifeHeather Berg is a trauma-informed Wholehearted Enneagram Coach and founder of Created to Move.Learn more here:https://www.createdtomove.com/ Support the showRESOURCES FOR YOU:Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wickshttps://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicksNot sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquizEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideConnect with Amy:IGWebsite

May 12, 202627 min

The Enneagram Seven and Reframing | A Seven's Wholehearted Journey with Amy Wicks

Send us Fan MailWholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types | Type Seven | Episode 2 of 4What happens when the Enneagram Seven's greatest superpower becomes the very thing keeping her from healing?In this episode, Amy Wicks moves from host to guest, sitting in the heartseat as her spiritual director and friend, Deanna Sudom, leads the conversation. It's one of the most personal episodes in the entire series.Amy shares how she finally recognized herself as a Seven, what she most wanted to avoid about it, and how her gift of reframing quietly became a form of spiritual bypassing, a way of rushing past pain that still needed tending. She talks about the year joy was her word, and how the Lord used it to form something far deeper and more rooted than she expected. About EMDR, grief, Dark Saturday, and the season, she sat in stillness for two to three hours at a time — not doing anything, just being held.If you're a Seven who has ever wondered what it costs to slow down (and what's waiting on the other side), this conversation is for you.In this episode:How Amy finally recognized herself as a Seven and why she quietly sat on it for a whileThe family member who made her not want to claim the typeReframing as a superpower and as a spiritual bypass, but learning the differenceThe year joy was her word, and what the Lord did with itWhat it actually felt like to slow down, grieve, and stayEMDR, Dark Saturday, and the U diagramAmy's season of stillness: waking early, sitting with an open Bible and a cup of coffee, being heldDeanna's reflection on five years of walking with Amy and what growth really looks likeA closing word to every Seven who has been told they're too muchDeanna Sudom is a spiritual director and co-teacher on the Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast.Connect with Deanna: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/deanna-sudomSupport the showRESOURCES FOR YOU:Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wickshttps://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicksNot sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquizEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideConnect with Amy:IGWebsite

May 5, 202623 min

The Seven's Sacred Joy | FOMO, Fullness & Trusting God with Deanna Sudom

Send us Fan MailWholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types | Type Seven | Episode 1 of 4The Enneagram Seven's joy is real. It isn't performed or manufactured; it's a genuine gift, a way of seeing possibility when others feel stuck in what is.But underneath the enthusiasm, the packed calendar, and the endless yes is something worth paying attention to: a deep fear of being trapped in pain, a longing for satisfaction that keeps moving the goal line, and a reframing instinct that works beautifully... until Good Friday arrives and it doesn't.In this opening episode of the Wholehearted Enneagram Seven month, Amy sits down with spiritual director Deanna Sudom to lay the foundation for everything that follows. As a Four and a Seven respectively, they bring a unique lens; complementary opposites who have a lot to teach each other about what it means to go to the deeper places.Whether you're a Seven, love one, or are simply curious what joy looks like when it's willing to stay — this is your starting place.In this episode:The Seven's genuine gift of joy, and why it sometimes bounces into the wrong roomCore fear: being trapped in pain, limited options, and the FOMO that never quite lets upCore desire: fullness, aliveness, satisfaction, and why the goal line keeps movingGluttony as a Seven pattern and why the accumulation itself becomes exhaustingHow Sevens experience God through wonder, creativity, and abundanceWhere faith gets complicated: stillness, lament, and skipping Good Friday to get to resurrectionPsalm 46:10 and the Passion Translation; the scripture invitation Sevens need mostWhat growth asks of a Seven: staying, finishing, and trusting that presence is better than movementDeanna Sudom is a spiritual director and co-teacher on the Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast. Connect with Deanna: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/deanna-sudomSupport the showRESOURCES FOR YOU:Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wickshttps://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicksNot sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquizEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideConnect with Amy:IGWebsite

April 28, 202651 min

The Eight's Sacred Directness | When God Redeems Your Strength with Alli Patterson

Send us Fan MailWholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types | Type Eight | Episode 4 of 4What if the very thing you were told was too much is exactly what God made you for?Alli Patterson is a teaching pastor, seminary-trained Bible teacher, and Enneagram Eight who spent years believing a lie: that her directness was harsh. That the way she communicated was a problem to be managed rather than a gift to be offered.In this conversation, Amy and Alli explore what it looks like for an Eight to come to the Bible, to come to God, and to receive, which, as Alli puts it, is both the most necessary and most unnatural posture for the Eight. From the Acts 12 moment that redeemed her directness as a mom, to the word God wouldn't stop saying to her across five journal pages, this episode is rich with scripture, story, and the kind of theological depth that only comes from someone who has lived it.Whether you're an Eight, love one, or are trying to figure out how to reach one, this is the conversation you needed.In this episode:Why Alli resisted the Enneagram for years and what finally made her take it seriouslyHow an Eight naturally reads Scripture and the gift that comes with itThe Acts 12 story that redeemed Alli's directness as a parentThe one word God kept repeating to her across five journal pagesWhy receiving is both the most necessary and most difficult posture for an EightHow to love, coach, or parent an Eight — and why trust has to come firstWhat Alli's Spirit-Led Bible Study offers and how it was born from her own Eight journeyAlli Patterson is a teaching pastor at Crossroads Church in Cincinnati and the author of Spirit-Led Bible Study.Connect with Alli here: https://www.allipatterson.com/Get the Spirit-led Bible Study here >>>Support the showRESOURCES FOR YOU:Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wickshttps://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicksNot sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquizEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideConnect with Amy:IGWebsite

April 21, 202641 min

Protection vs. Control | Understanding the Enneagram Type Eight with Melanie Erickson

Send us Fan MailWholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types | Type Eight | Episode 3 of 4Every Eight starts out protecting something. A wound, a person they love, or a standard of justice no one else seems to care about enough.But protection has a shadow side (and when it tips into control), the armor that was meant to keep people safe starts to push them away instead.In this episode, Amy sits down with Melanie, a Type Eight Canadian farmer, grandmother of almost 12, and certified Wholehearted Enneagram Coach, to walk through the Victim, Villain, Hero, and Guide framework through the lens of the Eight. Melanie is direct, funny, and disarmingly honest about her own journey through each of these roles, including the parts that weren't pretty.This conversation is for every Eight who has ever thrown something, gone silent when they meant to speak, or wondered why vulnerability feels like open heart surgery without anesthesia. And it's for everyone who loves an Eight and wants to understand what's actually happening underneath.In this episode:Where Eights get stuck in the victim role and why it shows up as withdrawal as often as angerWhen protection becomes control: the Eight's villain storyWhat it actually took for Melanie to step into vulnerability, and why she went face-to-face right awayThe hero moment: naming feelings, finding safety, and letting someone inHow Eights move into the guide role and how they learn to hold space without overpoweringThe lie Melanie carried for decades: "If it's gonna be, it's up to me."Why Melanie calls herself a champion, not a challengerConnect with Melanie: https://www.abidebydesign.ca/Support the showRESOURCES FOR YOU:Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wickshttps://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicksNot sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquizEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideConnect with Amy:IGWebsite