The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

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You're doing all the right things... showing up for your family, your faith, your work, yet still something feels off. You're overwhelmed more than you want to be. Your relationships have the same friction points. You wonder why you keep getting in your own way. Your starting point doesn't have to be your stuck point. The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast with Amy Wicks exists for faith-driven women who are ready to get to the root, not just better strategies, but real transformation from the inside out. Each week, Amy brings honest conversations, personal stories, and the kind of practical wisdom that actually changes how you see yourself and the people you love. The Enneagram is the tool. Christ is the transformation. And you were made for more than just managing your patterns. 🎙️ New episodes every week. Subscribe and start wherever you feel most stuck. Faith-based identity coaching for women who are tired of feeling stuck, overwhelmed, and unsure of who they really are.

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September 8, 202639 min

The Four's Sacred Longing | Beauty, Grief & Trusting God with Deanna Sudom

Send us Fan Mail Wholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types | Type Four | Episode 1 of 4 What does it look like to be the most feeling person in the room… and spend years believing that made you too much? Amy opens Type Four month with something that has never happened in this series before: Deanna Sudom, her trusted colleague and co-teacher all year long, steps out from behind the teaching role and into the guest chair to share her own story as a Type Four. Deanna came to Amy as a coaching client. She did her own wholehearted work. She became a certified Wholehearted Coach. And now she is one of the most trusted voices on Amy's team — a Four who found her way from longing to offering, from feeling too much to giving her depth as a gift. You'll hear about: The Four's core longing to be seen, known, and understood — and the fear that full knowing would mean rejection Why Fours aren't dramatic or self-indulgent — they are among the most honest people you will ever know What envy actually feels like from the inside — and why it is not about wanting what someone else has The Seven-Four dynamic between Amy and Deanna — what complementary opposites look like in a real working relationship How Deanna's own wholehearted journey moved her from client to coach to trusted discernment partner What Fours most need to hear about being known by God without being fixed by Him You are not too much. You were made to feel deeply, and the world needs what only you can name. The Enneagram can name your patterns. It can't set you free from them. That's the difference between insight and transformation, and it's the whole focus of this summit. Learn more, check out the speakers & get your free seat! https://www.simplywholehearted.com/wholehearted-2026 Support the show RESOURCES FOR YOU: Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquiz Ennea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram (free course + printables) https://bit.ly/Enneagram101Guide Connect with Amy: IG Website

September 1, 202626 min

When Self-Awareness Isn't Enough | A Taste of the 2026 Wholehearted Enneagram Summit

Send us Fan Mail You've done the work. You know your number, your wing, your stress arrow. And something still feels just out of reach. This week's episode is something a little different, a curated sample from this year's 5th Annual Wholehearted Enneagram Summit, featuring three of the summit's most compelling voices in conversation with Amy. You'll hear: Sam Eldredge ( Enneagram 4) on why so many of us are chasing a polished version of ourselves that will never actually satisfy and why that's not transformation; it's exhaustion Simi John (Enneagram Six) on what burnout actually is, why it keeps finding the same people, and what two years of solitude and inner work taught her about healing Sean Palmer (Enneagram Three) on what the Enneagram offers when life collapses and why your strengths are exactly the wrong tool for getting out Sarah Jackson (Enneagram Six) and I had a conversation on the difference between spiritual hustle and spiritual renewal and what it looks like to give from a well that doesn't run dry Chuck DeGroat (Enneagram on slow, courageous character change, everyday narcissism, and what it actually looks like when the Enneagram becomes a wisdom tool rather than an excuse This is the conversation the summit was built around: the Enneagram can name your patterns. It cannot set you free from them. That's the difference between insight and transformation. The 5th Annual Wholehearted Enneagram Summit runs September 9–11 and is free to attend. Save your seat at https://www.simplywholehearted.com/wholehearted-2026 . And if you want the replays, the workbook, and a pre-release PDF of Amy's new book before it drops October 6th, upgrade to the All-Access Pass for just $47. Come as you are. Let three days do what understanding alone hasn't. The Enneagram can name your patterns. It can't set you free from them. That's the difference between insight and transformation, and it's the whole focus of this summit. Learn more, check out the speakers & get your free seat! https://www.simplywholehearted.com/wholehearted-2026 Support the show RESOURCES FOR YOU: Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquiz Ennea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram (free course + printables) https://bit.ly/Enneagram101Guide Connect with Amy: IG Website

August 25, 202642 min

Enneagram Five: From Head Knowledge to Heart Connection | Sherri Hughes-Gragg

Send us Fan Mail Series: Wholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types | Type Five | Episode 4 of 4 Episode Description What does it look like when a Five stops hoarding what she knows... and starts giving it away? Amy closes Type Five month with Sherri Hughes-Gragg, a Christian author and Bible teacher, who joins for one of the most theologically rich conversations of the year. Sherri has spent her career doing what Fives do best: going deeper than anyone else into the culture, history, and geography of Scripture, and then bringing back everything she found as a gift for others. Together, Amy and Sherri explore what it looks like when the Five’s extraordinary interior life stops being a place of retreat and becomes a place of offering, and what it means to linger in the Savior’s presence when your instinct is always to study, prepare, and observe. In this episode: Why the Five’s love of depth and research is not just an intellectual gift, it’s a spiritual one What it actually costs a Five to take what she’s studied in private and offer it publicly What the Five most needs to hear about presence The difference between studying God and being known by Him, and why that distinction matters most for the Five A word for every Five who has been preparing to step forward… and is still waiting until she knows enough You have more to give than you know. And you don’t have to retreat to be safe. Sherri Gragg Bio Sherri Gragg is the author or co-author of ten books, including The Compassionate Christ, The Promised Christ, and the From Where I Stand Bible study series. A cancer survivor and mother of five adult children, Sherri writes about love, mercy, and compassion from her historic home near Nashville, Tennessee. Connect with Sherri: Sherrihughesgragg.com IG: Sherri_gragg FB: @sherrigraggwrites Affiliate links on Amazon: The Promised Christ: 31 Advent Stories that Bring Christmas to Life The Compassionate Christ: Draw Near to the Risen Savior (A 31-Day Devotional Retelling of Stories from the Life of Jesus) The Enneagram can name your patterns. It can't set you free from them. That's the difference between insight and transformation, and it's the whole focus of this summit. Learn more, check out the speakers & get your free seat! https://www.simplywholehearted.com/wholehearted-2026 Support the show RESOURCES FOR YOU: Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquiz Ennea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram (free course + printables) https://bit.ly/Enneagram101Guide Connect with Amy: IG Website

August 18, 202643 min

Observer vs. Participant | Understanding the Enneagram Type Five with Kristen Yeh

Send us Fan Mail Series: Wholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types | Type Five | Episode 3 of 4 What does the VVHG journey look like for a Five who has spent her career helping leaders get out of their heads and into the room? In this episode, Amy talks with Kristen Yeh, a Wholehearted Coach, Type Five, and specialist in business and leadership development who knows from the inside what it’s like to be the most prepared person in the room… and still hold back. Kristen walks through the Victim, Villain, Hero, and Guide framework through a Five lens, drawing on her own story and her work coaching leaders who are ready to stop observing their lives and start inhabiting them. This episode is especially for the analysts, strategists, experts, and quiet leaders in this community, such as the Fives who have brought their knowledge into every room they’ve entered and are ready to find out what it feels like to bring their presence as well. You have more to give than you know. And you don’t have to withdraw to be safe. Connect with Kristen Yeh: https://thriveenneagram.com/leadership The Enneagram can name your patterns. It can't set you free from them. That's the difference between insight and transformation, and it's the whole focus of this summit. Learn more, check out the speakers & get your free seat! https://www.simplywholehearted.com/wholehearted-2026 Support the show RESOURCES FOR YOU: Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquiz Ennea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram (free course + printables) https://bit.ly/Enneagram101Guide Connect with Amy: IG Website

August 11, 202637 min

The Enneagram Five and Withdrawal | A Five's Wholehearted Journey with Georgia Wolfe

Send us Fan Mail Wholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types | Type Five | Episode 2 of 4 What does a Five do when the very thing she most fears (needing people) becomes the doorway into the life she’s always wanted? In this episode, Amy talks with Georgia, a Type Five medical professional whose story is one of the most honest portraits of Five courage you’ll hear. Georgia shares what it actually looked like to navigate a blended family, pour herself out professionally in a caregiving field, and walk the long road of reconciliation with a brother she’d been estranged from — all while learning that she had far more to give than she ever believed. You’ll hear about: Why Georgia initially managed the pain of estrangement the way Fives manage most pain — by going inward and going quiet What it cost her to stay in a relationship with her bonus son when love felt like something she might not have enough of The moment she realized that withdrawal wasn’t protecting her — it was just making her lonelier How reconciliation with her brother became a spiritual practice, not just a relational one The practices that helped her move from guarded to genuinely present What she’d tell a Five who is standing at the edge of a relationship that terrifies them This isn’t about having it all figured out. It’s about discovering that connection doesn’t actually empty you the way you feared it would. You have more to give than you know. And you don’t have to withdraw to be safe. The Enneagram can name your patterns. It can't set you free from them. That's the difference between insight and transformation, and it's the whole focus of this summit. Learn more, check out the speakers & get your free seat! https://www.simplywholehearted.com/wholehearted-2026 Support the show RESOURCES FOR YOU: Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquiz Ennea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram (free course + printables) https://bit.ly/Enneagram101Guide Connect with Amy: IG Website

August 4, 202638 min

The Five's Sacred Wisdom | Depth, Depletion & Trusting God with Deanna Sudom

Send us Fan Mail Wholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types | Type 5 | Episode 1 of 4 What does it look like to be the most prepared person in the room… and the most alone? Amy opens Type Five month with her co-teacher and spiritual director Deanna Sudom, exploring a type that is profoundly misunderstood — often seen as cold or aloof when they are actually among the most perceptive, generous, and deeply feeling people you will ever know. You'll hear about: The Five's core fear of being depleted, incapable, or incompetent — and how it shapes every relationship and decision Why Fives aren't emotionally unavailable… they're protecting something precious (and waking up every day feeling like they're already at 20%) The withdrawing stance and what it actually costs a Five and the people who love them How Fives experience God intellectually before they trust Him — and what shifts when they move from knowing about God to being known by Him The 18-inch gap between head and heart, and why filling it with more knowledge isn't the answer The gift of the Five's wisdom, depth, and singular capacity for focused presence, and why the world genuinely needs what they've been holding Whether you're a Five yourself or you love one, this conversation is an invitation: you don't have to earn your place at the table by knowing enough. You already belong. You have more to give than you know. And you don't have to disappear to be safe. The Enneagram can name your patterns. It can't set you free from them. That's the difference between insight and transformation, and it's the whole focus of this summit. Learn more, check out the speakers & get your free seat! https://www.simplywholehearted.com/wholehearted-2026 Support the show RESOURCES FOR YOU: Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquiz Ennea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram (free course + printables) https://bit.ly/Enneagram101Guide Connect with Amy: IG Website

July 28, 202618 min

Understanding Enneagram Wings and How to Move Forward with Purpose

Send us Fan Mail What are Enneagram wings, and what do they actually have to do with your relationships? In this midsummer detour from our Year Through the Types series, Amy breaks down what wings are (and aren't), why they matter for your faith and your relationships, and how to stop "flying in circles" in the patterns you don't love. In this episode: What Enneagram wings really are The common misconception most people have about wings A live example: the Enneagram Five's two wings (5w4 Iconoclast and 5w6 Advocate) A quick-reference tour of how every type's wings show up differently Whether you already know your type or you're just getting started, this episode will help you move from information to transformation. The Enneagram can name your patterns. It can't set you free from them. That's the difference between insight and transformation, and it's the whole focus of this summit. Learn more, check out the speakers & get your free seat! https://www.simplywholehearted.com/wholehearted-2026 Support the show RESOURCES FOR YOU: Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquiz Ennea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram (free course + printables) https://bit.ly/Enneagram101Guide Connect with Amy: IG Website

July 21, 202648 min

The Sidekick Gets Her Moment | A MidSummer Enneagram Journey with the Other Bennett Sister

Send us Fan Mail The Other Bennet Sister finally gives Jane Austen's most overlooked sister the story she's always deserved—and we're having far too much fun talking about it. In this special midsummer detour, Amy is joined by Payge and Annaliese for a lively conversation about Mary Bennet's long-overdue redemption arc , the personalities behind the Bennet sisters, and, of course, our unofficial Enneagram typing of everyone from Mary to Mr. Hayward, Mr. Ryder, and females in the Bennett family. Together we explore what it means to move from the sidelines into your own story, why Mary has spent so long believing she was meant to be overlooked, and the beautiful moments that mark her journey toward confidence, agency, and belonging. Along the way, we debate the great romantic question—is it Team Hayward or Team Ryder? Whether you've recently read The Other Bennet Sister , watched the BritBox adaptation, or simply love a good character study, this episode is a joyful blend of literary discussion, personality insights, and a celebration of the quiet people who discover they were never meant to remain in the background. Because sometimes the most compelling hero isn't the loudest person in the room—it's the one who's finally learning to believe her own story matters. The Enneagram can name your patterns. It can't set you free from them. That's the difference between insight and transformation, and it's the whole focus of this summit. Learn more, check out the speakers & get your free seat! https://www.simplywholehearted.com/wholehearted-2026 Support the show RESOURCES FOR YOU: Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquiz Ennea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram (free course + printables) https://bit.ly/Enneagram101Guide Connect with Amy: IG Website

July 14, 202637 min

Hollywood, Camp Counselors, & the Enneagram 3 | A Midsummer Detour with Actor Nathan Gamble

Send us Fan Mail Content note: This episode includes a discussion of suicidal ideation as part of Nathan's testimony. If you or someone you know is struggling, the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline is available by call or text, 24/7. This month's Enneagram journey is on a midsummer pause, and so today, a spontaneous detour. Actor Nathan Gamble (Babel, Marley and Me, Bad Counselors, in theaters July 22–27) joins Amy for a conversation that starts with summer camp and Hollywood and ends up somewhere much deeper: his own Enneagram 3 story, how personality tools shaped his work on set, and the testimony behind his faith, including an honest, vulnerable season most guests wouldn't share out loud. This is a fun, unexpected, and ultimately tender conversation for the middle of your summer. https://www.badcounselors.com/ https://www.instagram.com/nathanleegamble/ A new show coming soon! https://www.instagram.com/bible_college/ The Enneagram can name your patterns. It can't set you free from them. That's the difference between insight and transformation, and it's the whole focus of this summit. Learn more, check out the speakers & get your free seat! https://www.simplywholehearted.com/wholehearted-2026 Support the show RESOURCES FOR YOU: Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquiz Ennea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram (free course + printables) https://bit.ly/Enneagram101Guide Connect with Amy: IG Website

July 7, 202612 min

Midsummer Breath Prayers | A Grounding Practice for All Nine Enneagram Types

Send us Fan Mail You’re at the height of summer and also at the edge of what comes next. Vacations and dorm room plans. Celebrations and back-to-school lists. Football practices in the morning, fireflies in the evening. If you feel the tension of being in two seasons at once, this episode is for you. In this short, grounding episode, Amy offers a contemplative breath prayer for each of the nine Enneagram types anchored in Isaiah 43 and the ancient practice of pairing Scripture with breath. This isn’t about forcing peace. It’s about interrupting the spiral, just for a moment, and remembering what’s true. The Enneagram can name your patterns. It can't set you free from them. That's the difference between insight and transformation, and it's the whole focus of this summit. Learn more, check out the speakers & get your free seat! https://www.simplywholehearted.com/wholehearted-2026 Support the show RESOURCES FOR YOU: Join the Waitlist for 1:1 Coaching with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquiz Ennea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram (free course + printables) https://bit.ly/Enneagram101Guide Connect with Amy: IG Website