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The Life of And podcast is for high-achieving women and working parents who are ready to stop living a life of “have to” and start designing a life they actually want. It’s a space where we talk honestly about the things we’re often afraid to admit — even to ourselves. The exhaustion. The ambition. The loneliness. The joy. The tension of wanting more without losing yourself in the process. If you’re in the thick of it — feeling stretched, tired, hopeful, driven — this is your invitation to take a breath, get real, and find your way back to your own Life of And.

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November 5, 2026Episode 33931 min

Holiday Planning: Rank These 5 Priorities Before the Season Starts

Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/ Join us in Indianapolis on Friday, November 20. The Goals & Values Workshop with Tiffany and Brian Kavicky is one day to name your values, set your goals for 2027, and build a plan you'll actually use. Tiffany teaches values. Brian leads goal setting. You don't need to arrive with goals. That's the whole point of the day. Reserve your seat: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/goals-values-workshop What if you could actually enjoy the holidays instead of just trying to survive them? In this episode of Life of And, Tiffany shares her approach to holiday planning and setting priorities so you can spend less time feeling overwhelmed and more time enjoying the season. She walks through the three seasons of life that shape how we set priorities, from simply getting through a challenging season to creating new traditions or building on what already works. From there, she introduces her "Holiday Five" framework to help you decide what matters most to you and your family. Plus, she shares her practical holiday hacks, including how she organizes gift giving into tiers, why she keeps a wrapping station ready, and the simple calendar habit that helps her protect what's most important. This isn't about creating the perfect holiday season. It's about making intentional choices, knowing when to say yes and when to say no, and creating space to actually be present for the moments that matter. What You’ll Learn How to identify which of the three seasons of life you're in and set realistic holiday priorities accordingly The five areas of holiday planning to rank with your family so everyone has a say in what matters most How to simplify Christmas shopping and gift giving without sacrificing thoughtfulness Why putting your most important holiday traditions on the calendar now can help you avoid overcommitting and burnout Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (02:30) How family meetings build ownership and accountability (05:00) What's new with Life of And (11:15) Why holiday planning starts with priorities (14:15) The three seasons that shape your priorities (18:20) Asking your family what matters most (21:00) The Holiday Five framework (23:30) Tip #1: Create a holiday wrapping station (24:15) Tip #2: Simplify gift giving with three tiers (28:22) Tip #3: Organize gift lists with Giftful (29:00) Tip #4: Put your holiday priorities on the calendar Goals & Values Workshop | Friday, November 20 | Indianapolis Join us in Indianapolis on Friday, November 20. The Goals & Values Workshop with Tiffany and Brian Kavicky is one day to name your values, set your goals for 2027, and build a plan you'll actually use. Tiffany teaches values. Brian leads goal setting. You don't need to arrive with goals. That's the whole point of the day. Reserve your seat: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/goals-values-workshop For more from Tiffany: Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder Learn more: https://www.tiffanysauder.com Ready to build your own Life of And? Explore the program: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/Program Check out the apps and sponsor of this episode: Created in partnership with Share Your Genius www.shareyourgenius.com Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/

October 29, 2026Episode 33831 min

Risk Builds Courage: 7 Women of Influence on What It Took

Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/ Join us in Indianapolis on Friday, November 20. The Goals & Values Workshop with Tiffany and Brian Kavicky is one day to name your values, set your goals for 2027, and build a plan you'll actually use. Tiffany teaches values. Brian leads goal setting. You don't need to arrive with goals. That's the whole point of the day. Reserve your seat: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/goals-values-workshop What if becoming a woman of influence isn't about having all the answers, but having the courage to keep showing up? In this episode of Life of And, Tiffany takes the podcast on the road to the Indianapolis Business Journal's Women of Influence event, where she chats with accomplished women who are building careers, raising families, and making a difference in their communities. Through their stories, she explores what it really takes to create a meaningful life and career, from taking risks before you feel ready to finding confidence in saying "I don't know." These conversations are a reminder that influence isn't measured by a job title or how much you accomplish. It's about the people you impact, the choices you make, and the courage to keep growing. Tiffany shares lessons on mentorship, trusting yourself, and giving yourself grace when work and family demand different things in different seasons. Whether you're navigating a career transition or simply trying to make room for everything that matters, this episode offers encouragement to keep building your own Life of And. What You’ll Learn Why taking risks builds courage, not the other way around How mentorship and trusting yourself can shape your career and leadership How to give yourself grace while navigating different seasons of work, family, and life How to redefine success and influence beyond your career and job title Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:28) Celebrating women who lead full lives (01:35) What it takes to become a woman of influence (02:09) The power of mentorship and support (06:29) Redefining success across career and family (09:20) Building a career without a perfect plan (12:36) Why real influence goes beyond your career (16:20) Taking risks to build lasting success (19:39) Finding purpose through faith and discipline (23:58) Breaking barriers in male-dominated careers (26:55) Why taking risks builds courage (29:40) Giving yourself grace in every season For more from our guests: Melissa Proffitt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissaproffitt/ Ice Miller: https://www.icemiller.com/ Stephanie Kim: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanie-chen-kim-346863/ Telamon: https://telamon.com/ Kara Riggle: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kararigglecollesano/ 92c Partners: https://92cpartners.com/ Sarah Hempstead: https://www.linkedin.com /in/sarah-hempstead-3744b25/ Schmidt Associates: https://schmidt-arch.com/ Cathy Langham: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cathy-langham-67042a1/ Langham Logistics: https://www.elangham.com/ Bethany Gremel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethany-gremel-b075364/ Beck's Hybrids: https://www.beckshybrids.com/ Melissa McCarthy, MD: https://medicine.iu.edu/faculty/62207/mccarthy-melissa Indiana University School of Medicine: https://medicine.iu.edu/ For more on Indianapolis Business Journal's Women of Influence 2026: Learn more: https://www.ibj.com/women-of-influence-2026 For more from Tiffany: Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder Learn more: https://www.tiffanysauder.com Check out the apps and sponsor of this episode: Created in partnership with Share Your Genius www.shareyourgenius.com Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/

October 22, 2026Episode 33735 min

Your Questions on Mom Guilt, Marriage, and Career

Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/ Join us in Indianapolis on Friday, November 20. The Goals & Values Workshop with Tiffany and Brian Kavicky is one day to name your values, set your goals for 2027, and build a plan you'll actually use. Tiffany teaches values. Brian leads goal setting. You don't need to arrive with goals. That's the whole point of the day. Reserve your seat: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/goals-values-workshop What happens when your career ambitions, your family's needs, and your own expectations are all competing for your attention? In this episode of Life of And, Samantha Johnson asks Tiffany Sauder real questions from listeners about motherhood, marriage, career growth, and the pressure to do it all. From navigating big family transitions to choosing when to prioritize work over time at home, Tiffany shares how she's learning to make peace with her decisions instead of constantly questioning them. Then Tiffany welcomes her longtime friend Jenny Gutwein, a single mom of three who went back to medical school and became a neonatologist, to answer some of the tougher parenting questions. Together, they discuss navigating divorce guilt without compromising discipline, surviving sleepless nights with young children, and letting go of the pressure to be a perfect mom. If you've ever wondered whether you're doing enough for your family or making the right choices in your current season, this episode offers honest perspectives and practical ways to move forward. What You’ll Learn How to balance career ambition and motherhood without second-guessing every decision How to support your marriage when both partners have demanding careers Why consistent parenting matters more than guilt after divorce How to manage mom guilt, set realistic expectations, and make time for yourself Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (01:54) Moving homes and adjusting to change (04:24) Balancing career ambition and motherhood (08:23) How working moms can advance their careers (10:22) Keeping your marriage strong during busy career seasons (14:04) Creating a home maintenance system (17:00) Meet Jenny Gutwein and her journey as a single mom (18:28) Parenting after divorce and managing guilt (22:44) Surviving sleepless nights with young children (27:08) How to stop feeling like you're never doing enough (30:17) Letting go of parenting pressure and comparison (34:00) Why making time for yourself matters Goals & Values Workshop | Friday, November 20 | Indianapolis A full day with Tiffany and Brian Kavicky to define your values, set real goals, and walk into 2027 with it written down instead of rattling around in your head. No prep required. $149 Reserve your seat: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/goals-values-workshop For more from Tiffany: Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder Learn more: https://www.tiffanysauder.com Start organizing your house with our Home Maintenance Tracker: PDF: https://drive.google.com/file/d/17H8lLbRSMpYXEz49mgYzChmYbR8gMU36/view?usp=sharing Editable Google Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E3OexZqRDyKRmWAJcEO3ZLM9exbbZL75PjAGHeG5_uo/copy Check out the apps and sponsor of this episode: Created in partnership with Share Your Genius www.shareyourgenius.com Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/

October 15, 2026Episode 33630 min

5 Financial Terms Every Woman Should Know

Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/ Join us in Indianapolis on Friday, November 20. The Goals & Values Workshop with Tiffany and Brian Kavicky is one day to name your values, set your goals for 2027, and build a plan you'll actually use. Tiffany teaches values. Brian leads goal setting. You don't need to arrive with goals. That's the whole point of the day. Reserve your seat: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/goals-values-workshop What if the difference between saving well and building real wealth comes down to a handful of words? Grab the Full Guide: 10 Financial Terms Every Woman Must Know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/ In this solo episode of Life Of And, Tiffany comes back from hearing Kevin O'Leary speak with one lesson ringing in her ears: you have to know your numbers. That isn't just business advice. It applies to your personal finances too. Saving gets you safe, but investing gets you free. In partnership with First Internet Bank, Tiffany breaks down five financial terms in plain English, with real numbers and real-life examples. She shows how $100,000 invested once can turn into $4.5 million or just $250,000 depending only on when you start, and she runs the math on whether paying off a low-rate mortgage is really the smartest move. Then she gets practical. She covers the tax-advantaged accounts most people leave money on the table with, the many forms passive income can take, and how equity becomes a flywheel that funds your next investment. If money conversations have ever felt like they were happening in a language you didn't speak, this episode gives you the vocabulary, the math, and the confidence to start thinking like an investor. What You’ll Learn How compound interest works, and why time is the most valuable asset you have How to compare your options using rate of return instead of defaulting to what feels responsible Which tax-advantaged accounts (HSA, 529, 401(k)) can keep more of your money working for you What equity really means, and how it can give you borrowing power to grow your wealth faster Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:28) What Kevin O'Leary taught me about knowing your numbers (01:45) Why money vocabulary matters (03:27) Term 1: Compound interest (08:06) Term 2: Rate of return (13:30) Term 3: Tax-advantaged accounts (17:00) Term 4: Passive income (19:51) Term 5: Equity (27:24) Kevin O'Leary's goat and the investor mindset (28:27) Don't be colder about money, be clearer Ready to Put Your Money to Work? Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank Like this episode? Check out more in the series: My Agency Made Its First Acquisition. Here's What We Learned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoJWW_cPQfA Stop Managing Money. Start Building Wealth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgmX1Lrf1X8 How to Teach Kids Financial Literacy Through Everyday Money Decisions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKB34UvGVEc The Budget Questions You’ve Been Too Afraid to Ask: https://youtu.be/QMeyEZXozAA Stop Looking Wealthy, Start Building Wealth: https://youtu.be/Cfwewqby9HE Money Confessions: What Women Really Think About Time, Guilt, and Financial Freedom: https://youtu.be/m3fnoNDOp-A How to Stop Doing It All and Start Living Your Life: https://youtu.be/MJLq7zdH2NU Why Smart Women Still Feel Unsure About Money (And How To Change That): https://youtu.be/h5tayXL1HxI For more from Tiffany: Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder Learn more: https://www.tiffanysauder.com Ready to build your own Life of And? Explore the program: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/Program Check out the apps and sponsor of this episode: Created in partnership with Share Your Genius www.shareyourgenius.com Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/

October 8, 2026Episode 33530 min

Why Goal Setting Feels So Hard (And How to Start)

Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/ Join us in Indianapolis on Friday, November 20. The Goals & Values Workshop with Tiffany and Brian Kavicky is one day to name your values, set your goals for 2027, and build a plan you'll actually use. Tiffany teaches values. Brian leads goal setting. You don't need to arrive with goals. That's the whole point of the day. Reserve your seat: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/goals-values-workshop What if the reason your life feels out of balance isn’t that you need more time, but that you aren’t clear enough on what you’re building toward? In this episode of Life Of And, Tiffany sits down with longtime mentor and monthly conversation partner Brian Kavicky of Lushin to explore how clear goals and values create the foundation for a life that feels more aligned. They unpack why so many capable people struggle to name what they actually want, why a goal doesn’t require having every step figured out, and how priorities become the bridge between the life you’re living today and the one you want to create. You’ll walk away with a framework to: Turn vague wants into goals you can intentionally build toward Connect your priorities to the person you’re becoming Adjust your plan when life changes without abandoning the goal Make clearer tradeoffs when two important priorities compete Reserve Your Seat: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/goals-values-workshop This episode is the short version. November 20 is where we actually do the work. I teach the first part on defining your core values as a person, not your family values, yours, because clear values are where boundaries come from. Brian leads goal setting, and not the "what do you want in the next twelve months" kind. The kind where you look at where you came from, what you are accumulating, and what you want your life to say. You do not need to arrive with goals already set. That is the entire point of the day. Imagine walking into 2027 with this written down and a structure for the decisions that follow from it. Like this episode? Check out more in the series: Why You Both Think You Do More at Home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml9yJdL9VRM What to Say When You Freeze, Get Overlooked, or Get Underpaid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhHIw1hi9Bg 3 Steps to Nail Your Pricing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGsr0RvLw3Y Want more from BK? Get your personalized playlist and listen to Tiffany’s favorite conversations with him here: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/BK For more from Tiffany: Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder Learn More: https://www.tiffanysauder.com Reserve your seat at the Goal Setting Session: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/goals-values-workshop Ready to build your own Life of And? Explore the program: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/Program Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:37) Why balance is really about alignment (03:50) How goals and values shape your choices (05:15) Why setting goals can feel so hard (09:28) The hidden cost of fuzzy goals (11:22) When life stops scripting what comes next (14:14) Looking backward to build what’s next (17:01) When couples approach goals differently (20:12) Using themes to guide everyday decisions (20:50) Making room for what matters most (25:40) How clear goals make no easier (27:13) Building a life around your goals Check out the apps and sponsor of this episode: This episode is sponsored by Lushin. As part of our ongoing content partnership, Brian Kavicky joins the podcast monthly to share insights on leadership and sales. No compensation is received for referrals. Created in partnership with Share Your Genius Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/

October 1, 2026Episode 33421 min

6 Fashion Tips for Working Moms

Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/ Join us in Indianapolis on Friday, November 20. The Goals & Values Workshop with Tiffany and Brian Kavicky is one day to name your values, set your goals for 2027, and build a plan you'll actually use. Tiffany teaches values. Brian leads goal setting. You don't need to arrive with goals. That's the whole point of the day. Reserve your seat: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/goals-values-workshop What if getting dressed didn't have to feel like a daily emergency? In this episode of Life Of And, Tiffany shares the working mom style playbook she’s refined over years of balancing boardrooms and bleachers. She begins with a piece of timeless advice from her grandmother that transformed her approach to getting dressed. From there, she walks through six realistic systems she uses daily, including a quick swap for 9 AM meetings to soccer games, why she always keeps sneakers in her car, and a trick to avoid buying unnecessary team merch. Plus, she shares her rule for keeping one outfit ready at all times, the "Goodwill shelf" habit that prevents closet clutter, and the end-of-season timing trick she uses to snag high-end pieces on sale. This isn't about vanity. It's about building a small number of repeatable systems so that what you wear stops costing you time, money, and mental energy every single day. What You’ll Learn Why dressing well is less about the clothes and more about how you want to feel walking into a room The fast swap that lets you go from professional to comfortable in seconds, without changing your whole outfit Why you should always have one special outfit hanging in your closet, tags still on, ready for the moment you need it The exact time of year to buy your nicest pieces so you never pay full price Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:59) Why we’re doing a second fashion episode (04:00) Tip #1: Swap your jacket and sneakers to go from “work” to “mom” (07:31) Tip #2: Keep sneakers in the car (09:00) Tip #3: Amplify your style in the stands (13:06) Tip #4: Buy the dress before you need it (14:58) Tip #5: Create a Goodwill Shelf and edit your closet (17:05) Tip #6: Take advantage of end-of-season sales (20:56) Building the system before you need it Like this episode? Check out more in the series: How to Find Clothes You Look Great In: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0y3Mth-ZFw 5 Tips to Get Dressed with Confidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx3jhaZtNg0&t=161s For more from Tiffany: Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder Learn more: https://www.tiffanysauder.com Ready to build your own Life of And? Explore the program: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/Program Check out the apps and sponsor of this episode: Created in partnership with Share Your Genius www.shareyourgenius.com Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/

September 24, 2026Episode 33339 min

My Agency Made Its First Acquisition. Here's What We Learned.

Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/ Join us in Indianapolis on Friday, November 20. The Goals & Values Workshop with Tiffany and Brian Kavicky is one day to name your values, set your goals for 2027, and build a plan you'll actually use. Tiffany teaches values. Brian leads goal setting. You don't need to arrive with goals. That's the whole point of the day. Reserve your seat: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/goals-values-workshop What if the person deciding whether you get the money to grow your business isn't a gatekeeper at all? In this episode of Life Of And, Tiffany sits down with Trina McWilliams, a Commercial Relationship Manager at First Internet Bank, for an all-access look at a deal she just did with her team. On July 1st, Element Three closed on its first acquisition, and Trina's bank financed it. Tiffany walks through the real numbers, including why she borrowed about a half million dollars instead of writing a check from the company's own cash, and what she's learned about how much operating room a deal actually needs once the papers are signed. Then she opens the door most business owners never get to see behind: what happens inside the bank while your loan request is being reviewed. Trina breaks down the five Cs of credit in plain language and explains what she's really looking for when an owner brings her a deal. She's honest about the parts that feel scary, like what a personal guarantee actually obligates you to, and generous about the parts nobody tells you, like why the conversation is so much easier before you need the money. If a bank has ever felt like a room you weren't invited into, this one gives you the vocabulary, the questions, and the confidence to walk in and start the conversation. What You’ll Learn What a bank is actually evaluating when you ask for money, and why so much of it comes down to how you've led Why the smartest time to talk to a banker is long before you need financing How to think about which part of a deal to fund with your own cash and which part to borrow What a personal guarantee really means, and how to sit with that risk honestly before you sign Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (01:23) The acquisition we financed, and why we didn't wait (07:16) What a banker is really looking for when your deal arrives (10:23) Why banks lend on your ability to repay, not your need (13:20) Why we took a $500K loan instead of writing the check (17:33) Seller notes, earn-outs, and the 60-day cash cycle (20:38) Your character and track record matter more than revenue (23:38) Collateral and why the bank hopes to never use it (26:23) What a personal guarantee actually obligates you to (31:43) When to call a bank and what to bring with you (33:37) SBA vs. conventional, and which fits your deal (35:59) How to find a banker who works for you, too Ready to Put Your Money to Work? Learn More About First Internet Bank Here: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank Like this episode? Check out more in the series: Stop Managing Money. Start Building Wealth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgmX1Lrf1X8 How to Teach Kids Financial Literacy Through Everyday Money Decisions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKB34UvGVEc The Budget Questions You’ve Been Too Afraid to Ask: https://youtu.be/QMeyEZXozAA Stop Looking Wealthy, Start Building Wealth: https://youtu.be/Cfwewqby9HE Money Confessions: What Women Really Think About Time, Guilt, and Financial Freedom: https://youtu.be/m3fnoNDOp-A How to Stop Doing It All and Start Living Your Life: https://youtu.be/MJLq7zdH2NU Why Smart Women Still Feel Unsure About Money (And How To Change That): https://youtu.be/h5tayXL1HxI For more from Tiffany: Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder Learn more: https://www.tiffanysauder.com For more from Trina: Follow Trina on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trina-mcwilliams-6b197348/ Ready to build your own Life of And? Explore the program: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/Program Check out the apps and sponsor of this episode: Created in partnership with Share Your Genius www.shareyourgenius.com Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/

September 17, 2026Episode 33229 min

Balance Has Nothing to Do With Time

September 10, 2026Episode 33127 min

Why You Both Think You Do More at Home

Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/ Join us in Indianapolis on Friday, November 20. The Goals & Values Workshop with Tiffany and Brian Kavicky is one day to name your values, set your goals for 2027, and build a plan you'll actually use. Tiffany teaches values. Brian leads goal setting. You don't need to arrive with goals. That's the whole point of the day. Reserve your seat: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/goals-values-workshop What if the hardest conversations about sharing the load at home are not really about who does more, but about two people experiencing the same life very differently? In this episode, Tiffany sits down with Brian Kavicky, sales and leadership coach at Lushin and one of her longtime mentors, to unpack why conversations about household responsibilities so often turn into arguments, resentment, or shutdown. Drawing on new research about working parents, they explore why both partners can genuinely believe they are carrying more and why trying to prove who is right rarely creates meaningful change. Brian explains how to move beyond competing lists and “logic battles” by getting curious about the pressures, priorities, and invisible weight each person carries. He shares why these conversations should happen outside the heat of the moment, how the phrase “I would like your help” can shift the dynamic, and why understanding your partner’s world matters more than keeping score. They also get specific about how to recognize progress, communicate what makes you feel supported, and invite your partner into the conversation without making them feel accused. The goal is not a perfectly equal division of every task. It is learning how to approach the problem as a team. You’ll walk away with a framework to: Replace competing perspectives with curiosity Talk about the household load without starting a logic battle Make invisible pressures and priorities easier to understand Ask for help without blame or accusation Want more from BK? Get your personalized playlist and listen to Tiffany’s favorite conversations with him here: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/BK For more from Tiffany: Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder Learn More: https://www.tiffanysauder.com Ready to build your own Life of And? Explore the program: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/Program Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (04:08) Why couples see the division of labor differently (06:54) Shifting from demands to solving the problem together (08:57) Why curiosity is harder when you feel depleted (11:12) Choosing the right time for the conversation (13:11) The power of saying, “I would like your help” (14:28) When both partners believe they are doing more (18:03) Asking questions without making someone defensive (19:15) Understanding each other’s priorities and needs (22:19) Recognizing what is going right (24:09) The invisible weight behind household responsibilities (25:40) How to invite your partner into the conversation Check out the apps and sponsor of this episode: This episode is sponsored by Lushin. As part of our ongoing content partnership, Brian Kavicky joins the podcast monthly to share insights on leadership and sales. No compensation is received for referrals. Created in partnership with Share Your Genius Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/

September 3, 2026Episode 33050 min

Burnout Isn't About Being Busy. It's About Feeling No Progress.

Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/ Join us in Indianapolis on Friday, November 20. The Goals & Values Workshop with Tiffany and Brian Kavicky is one day to name your values, set your goals for 2027, and build a plan you'll actually use. Tiffany teaches values. Brian leads goal setting. You don't need to arrive with goals. That's the whole point of the day. Reserve your seat: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/goals-values-workshop You've been told you can't have it all, but maybe that's not quite the problem. The real problem is nobody ever taught you how to measure what any of it actually costs. This episode is a replay of Tiffany's appearance on Workday Playdate, the podcast hosted by her friend Erin Diehl. In it, Tiffany and Erin work through the questions ambitious women carry into every day but rarely say out loud: What do you do when you've stopped dreaming because you don't have the capacity to want anything new? How do you know if something really isn't your season, or if you're just afraid to make room for it? What's the actual cost of the choices you've already made, and are you allowed to feel resentful about them? And when a raise finally comes through, should any of it go toward buying your time back? Tiffany breaks down the difference between "I can't" and "I don't know how." One is a dead end. The other is a starting point. She explains why burnout has nothing to do with being busy and everything to do with putting in the same effort and feeling no progress, and why every yes deserves to be measured with the same honesty as a budget. She also names the three tasks she outsources before anything else, and tells the story of the twenty-minute conversation that talked a CEO out of quitting her job. You'll walk away knowing how to: Tell the difference between "I can't" and "I don't know how," and use it to move forward instead of stalling out Measure the real size of a "yes" before you say it Build a "not now" list instead of giving up on an idea for good Own the cost of a choice you made instead of quietly resenting it Outsource the three tasks that give back the most time for the least effort This is not a conversation about having it all. It's about deciding, on purpose, what's actually yours to carry. For more from Tiffany: Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder Learn more: https://www.tiffanysauder.com For more from Erin: Follow Erin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itserindiehl/?hl=en Learn more: https://www.itserindiehl.com/ Ready to build your own Life of And? Explore the program: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/Program Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (06:41) Setting the intention with abundance (10:30) The stat about working moms that stops you cold (14:04) "I can't" vs "I don't know how" (18:26) How to measure the size of your yes (23:03) The CEO who was 20 minutes away from quitting (27:39) The real cost of every yes (29:41) The holy trinity of outsourcing (33:23) Why "Dear Working Mom" never apologizes (36:06) Why systems beat discipline (41:03) What burnout actually means (47:50) The question your best people need you to ask Check out the apps and sponsor of this episode: Created in partnership with Share Your Genius Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/