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At the intersection of learning, media, and the future of work, join us each week as we sense and discover where the future of education is heading. Join host Mike Palmer, the Founder of Palmer Media, as he engages with thought leaders, pioneers, and entrepreneurs exploring the cutting edge of learning in these tumultuous times.

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August 14, 202646 min

Bringing an AI Fluency Program to Kids Globally with Dr. Taniya Mishra, CEO @ SureStart

How do we move beyond baseline AI literacy to true AI fluency, agency, and self-efficacy for the next generation? In this episode of Trending in Education, host Mike Palmer sits down with Dr. Taniya Mishra, Founder and CEO of SureStart, to explore how hands-on, mentor-led AI education is empowering youth globally to shift from passive users to confident creators. Drawing from her 12+ years as an industrial AI researcher, Dr. Mishra shares how SureStart demystifies technology through near-peer mentorship, modular curriculum, and a layered approach to AI learning—from middle school vocabulary to vibe coding and building small language models. KEY INSIGHTS & DISCUSSION POINTS 💡 The Heart of SureStart—Near-Peer Mentorship: How pairing middle/high school students with near-peer mentors (graduate and undergraduate students) demystifies AI, creates psychological safety, and normalizes making mistakes as a core part of the coding process. 💡 A Layered Framework for AI Education: Understanding AI through a tiered mental model (DIYer, electrician, electrical engineer, researcher) to meet students where they are—building confidence through foundational vocabulary, conceptual clarity, and practical execution. 💡 Navigating Vibe Coding & Emergent Tech: Why rapid advancements like vibe coding require students to look beneath the surface code, balancing prompt engineering efficiency with direct coding precision. 💡 Overcoming "Cautious Clickers" & Risk Aversion: Strategies to build self-efficacy among underrepresented students by prioritizing representative role modeling (50%+ female mentors) and praising questions in the learning environment. 💡 Responsible AI Across the Curriculum: Why ethics should not be an isolated module, but woven throughout every project (e.g., addressing authorship and bias in generative tools) to cultivate critical evaluation skills. 💡 Operationalizing AI in K-12 Education: Integrating flexible, modular lessons (ranging from 15-hour blocks to 60-hour semester courses) into packed public school schedules through teacher training and district partnerships. 💡 New Economy Skills & Human + AI Synergy: Preparing youth for a changing workforce by pairing AI tools with core human competencies: critical reasoning, executive functioning, data literacy, financial literacy, and an entrepreneurial mindset. CHAPTERS & TIMESTAMPS ⏱️ 00:00 – Welcome & Introduction: Dr. Taniya Mishra and SureStart ⏱️ 01:00 – Taniya’s Journey: From PhD AI Researcher to EdTech Founder ⏱️ 04:00 – Overcoming "I'm Not a Tech Person" & Demystifying STEM ⏱️ 06:30 – The Core of SureStart: Near-Peer Mentorship in Action ⏱️ 09:50 – Keeping Up with Fast-Moving Trends & Vibe Coding ⏱️ 12:50 – The Layered Model: DIYers to AI Researchers ⏱️ 18:20 – Addressing "Cautious Clickers" & Creating Safe Failure Spaces ⏱️ 24:40 – Integrating AI Fluency into Busy K-12 Schedules ⏱️ 29:30 – Parallel Processing: Upskilling Teachers & Engaging Parents ⏱️ 34:40 – Responsible AI Frameworks & Verification Skills ⏱️ 42:30 – New Economy Skills: Data Literacy, Financial Literacy & Entrepreneurship ⏱️ 45:30 – Final Thoughts: Humans Plus AI SUBSCRIBE & CONNECT 🎧 Subscribe to Trending in Education wherever you listen to podcasts to stay ahead of the curve in learning, media, AI, and the future of work. 🌐 Website: https://trendingineducation.com 📩 Follow Mike Palmer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelppalmer/

August 11, 202641 min

The Reward Trap: Why External Rewards Backfire with Dr. Ozgur Bolat

In this episode of Trending in Education, host Mike Palmer is joined by Dr. Ozgur Bolat, associate professor of educational science and author of The Reward Trap: Why Rewards Backfire and the Real Science of Motivating Kids. Dr. Bolat shares his journey from seeking external validation to decoding the science of intrinsic motivation, offering practical strategies for parents and educators looking to move away from quick-fix rewards and build lasting resilience and internal drive in children. Key topics discussed include: 🧠 The Pitfalls of External Validation: How relying on rewards, praise, and criticism creates an external locus of control and undermines intrinsic motivation. 🕊️ The PEACE Model: A framework (Perspective, Emotion & Cognition, Need, Commitment, Engagement) to address behavior and resistance without relying on bribes or threats. 📱 Modern Parenting & Mental Health: How overprotective parenting and digital distractions prevent kids from learning how to handle hardship and negative emotions. 🤖 Assessment in the Age of AI: Why generative AI exposes the limits of memorization-based testing and forces a shift toward assessing critical thinking, original reasoning, and conceptual understanding. 👨‍🏫 Evolving the Role of the Educator: Shifting teachers away from being mere "information transmitters" and into roles as mentors, coaches, and learning architects. 🤝 Parent and Teacher Dynamics: Research-backed insights on why warm, respectful relationships far outperform control mechanisms, anxiety, and high-pressure tactics. About the Guest: Dr. Ozgur Bolat is an associate professor in educational science, Fulbright scholar, Harvard Graduate School of Education graduate, Cambridge PhD, and former MIT Sloan researcher. He is the founder of parenting and teacher training initiatives dedicated to raising internally validated children. His book, The Reward Trap, features a foreword by Nobel Laureate Professor Aziz Sancar. Subscribe to Trending in Education wherever you listen to podcasts for more conversations on the future of learning, parenting, and human agency. Visit https://www.trendingined.com for show notes and past episodes.

August 7, 202627 min

The Education Investment Landscape with Mike Peng, Weatherstone Capital Partners

In this episode of Trending in Education, host Mike Palmer sits down with Mike Peng, Founder and Managing Partner of Weatherstone Capital Partners, to explore the evolving intersection of education, technology, and capital markets. After missing a meeting at ASU+GSV in San Diego, Mike and Mike reconnect to unpack what it takes to scale educational ventures past the startup phase and navigate the broader macroeconomic shift from venture capital to private equity in EdTech. Drawing from his unique career journey—from engineering at UT Austin and strategy consulting at McKinsey to leading rapid growth at Block Renovation and earning an MBA at Stanford—Peng shares why Weatherstone focuses on partnering with operators in the 1-to-10 scale stage ($1M to $10M EBITDA range). Together, they examine the real "moats" in the age of AI (data ownership and customer relationships over UI), why corporate L&D and continuing certification are outperforming traditional K-12/Higher Ed models for private equity, and how simulation tools and micro-learning are reshaping workforce upskilling. Peng also offers vital advice for founders assessing whether they are the "limiting factor" in their company's growth and how to navigate tight capital markets. KEY INSIGHTS: 0-to-1 vs. 1-to-10 Leadership: Building a product from scratch requires a scrappy, zero-to-one mindset, whereas scaling from 1 to 10 demands processes, enterprise workflows, and founders willing to look in the mirror to ensure they aren't becoming their company's limiting factor. The Capital Shift from VC to PE: With EdTech valuations down ~60% from 2021 peaks and market maturity kicking in, 2024 marked a pivot where private equity outpaced venture capital in EdTech funding—shifting the focus from hyper-growth to unit economics, profitability, and sustainable scale. Redefining AI Moats: User interface (UI) and simple API connections to large language models are no longer defensible differentiators. True AI moats reside in owning proprietary data, maintaining deep customer trust, and controlling end-to-end customer relationships. Corporate L&D and Reskilling Demand: While K-12 and Higher Ed present longer sales cycles and risk aversion, Corporate L&D—particularly recurring certification, micro-training in daily workflows, and AI simulation (e.g., bedside manner nursing)—presents massive opportunity as 85% of employers seek to reskill their workforce by 2030. Founder Discipline in Tight Markets: Bootstrapping and pivoting quickly are more viable than ever thanks to AI MVP acceleration. Founders must plan capital runway at least a year in advance and regularly "come up for air" so market evolution doesn't leave their business behind. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 – Introduction & Connecting Post-ASU+GSV 01:00 – Mike Peng's Journey: UT Austin, McKinsey, Block Renovation, & Stanford MBA 02:30 – Inside Weatherstone Capital Partners: Long-Term Platform Investing 03:30 – 0-to-1 vs. 1-to-10: Passing the Founder "Mirror Test" 05:30 – Takeaways from ASU+GSV: AI Undercurrents & Modern Moats 07:30 – Career Readiness, CTE, & The 1,400-Tool EdTech Stack 09:30 – Data is the New Oil, AI is the New Electricity 11:30 – Managing Hallucination Risk & Trust in Classroom Tech 13:30 – Segmenting EdTech: Why Capital is Moving from VC to PE 18:00 – The Future of Work: LXP, Micro-Learning, & AI Simulations 23:30 – Personal AI Tutors, Spatial Hardware, & Final Advice for Founders 26:00 – Wrap Up & How to Connect with Weatherstone Subscribe to Trending in Ed wherever you get your podcasts to stay ahead of the curve in learning, media, and the future of work.

August 4, 202640 min

Building Constructive Dialogue Habits in Higher Ed with Francesca Schuler ED @ Dialogue Vanderbilt

How can higher education equip Gen Z to navigate rapid AI disruption, political polarization, and shifting workplace expectations? In this episode of Trending in Education, host Mike Palmer connects with Francesca Schuler, Executive Director of Dialogue Vanderbilt at Vanderbilt University. Drawing from her executive career as a COO and CEO in private-sector consumer and fitness industries, Francesca brings a fresh, operational lens to solving higher education's civil discourse challenge. Together, Mike and Francesca explore why modern communication frequently breaks down and why developing constructive dialogue habits—such as listening with curiosity, managing emotional reactivity, and asking thoughtful questions—is critical for modern leadership and citizenship. From creating tech-free conversational spaces like the "Vandy Speakeasy" to building nationwide partnerships through the Dialogue CoLab, Francesca shares actionable strategies to cultivate emotional intelligence (EQ), foster psychological flexibility, and empower students to thrive in a complex world. KEY INSIGHTS & DISCUSSION POINTS Habits Over Skills in Moments of Crisis: While functional skills are vital, leaders and students ultimately fall back on ingrained habits during high-pressure situations. Practicing daily habits like asking with curiosity, showing up without rigid certainty, and listening to learn builds long-term emotional intelligence (EQ) and resilience. Unlearning Technology's Bad Habits: Social media platforms and instant messaging reward hot takes, rigid positions, and immediate reactivity over thoughtful engagement. Treating AI as a supportive tool rather than the final answer preserves human judgment, nuance, and critical thinking. Tactical Campus Programs for Practice: Dialogue Vanderbilt creates low-stakes practice environments—such as the phone-free "Vandy Speakeasy"—and hands-on workshops like "Switch Sides" and "From Every Angle" to rehearse respectful debate and open inquiry. Institutional Neutrality and Citizenship: Rooted in Vanderbilt’s historical unifying mission, maintaining institutional neutrality provides faculty and students space to explore complex ideas while learning how to agree—and disagree—more constructively. Busting Career & Personal Growth Myths: Re-evaluating pervasive narratives around imposter syndrome and work-life balance encourages individuals to embrace agency, navigate trade-offs, and prioritize core success traits: curiosity, humor, and getting things done (GSD). Scaling Civil Discourse Across Higher Education: Through initiatives like the Dialogue CoLab, over 30 higher education institutions—ranging from community colleges to state schools and private universities—are sharing best practices to foster constructive campus cultures nationwide. SUBSCRIBE & CONNECT Subscribe to Trending in Education wherever you get your podcasts to stay ahead of the curve in learning, media, AI, and the future of work.

July 30, 202639 min

Reaching The Mission Generation with Author Arun Gupta, CEO at NobleReach

What if the safest career path in an era of rapid AI disruption is actually doing something entrepreneurial or mission-driven? In this episode of Trending in Education, Mike Palmer is joined by Arun Gupta, CEO of NobleReach Foundation and author of The Mission Generation: Reclaim Your Purpose, Rewrite Success, Rebuild Our Future. Drawing from his background as a venture capitalist, Georgetown and Stanford instructor, and public service advocate, Arun breaks down why traditional stability is becoming the new risk and how emerging generations—and professionals at all career stages—can align personal ambition with civic purpose. They discuss why fewer than 7% of government tech workers are under the age of 30, how to modernize public service pathways beyond outdated hiring portals, and why AI will elevate human-centric strengths like curiosity, judgment, and cross-domain experience. Arun also introduces a framework for rethinking individual net worth around five "hidden capitals"—trust, learning, experiential, mission, and health capital—that compound over a 60-year career horizon. KEY INSIGHTS: Stability as the New Risk: Relying strictly on traditional prestige markers (where you work) over purpose markers (the problems you solve) leaves professionals vulnerable to rapid technological and economic shifts. The Five Hidden Capitals: Career value extends far beyond financial metrics, compounding over time through trust, curiosity, diverse experience, mission impact, and sustained health. Public Service as a Career Accelerator: Short-term civic stints should be framed as resume-enhancing accelerators rather than lifetime commitments, making public service more accessible for tech and business talent. Inverting the Risk Equation: A venture capital mindset shifts the focus from "what if it goes wrong?" to "what if it goes right?"—encouraging transformative, mission-oriented bets over incremental safety. From Independence to Interdependence: Solving large-scale modern challenges requires building cross-sector pathways between public, private, and social institutions. Subscribe to Trending in Ed wherever you get your podcasts to stay ahead of the curve in learning, media, and the future of work. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 – Introduction: Arun Gupta and The Mission Generation 01:00 – From VC Bets to Public Service: Teaching "Valley Meets Mission" at Stanford & Georgetown 03:30 – The Tech Talent Gap: Why Under 7% of Government Tech Workers Are Under 30 06:00 – An Intergenerational Quest: Finding Purpose Across Every Stage of Life 07:00 – Purpose Markers vs. Prestige Markers: Why Stability is the New Risk 10:00 – Advice for Graduates: Service Stints, Entrepreneurial Mindsets, and Action-First Clarity 14:40 – The 4 Barriers to Mission Work & How AI Crosswalks Sector Silos 18:00 – Redefining Net Worth: Investing in the 5 Hidden Capitals 21:00 – Rebuilding Civic Pathways: Framing Public Service as a Career Enhancer 25:40 – Mid-Career Civic Sabbaticals & Purpose as a Longevity Driver 28:30 – From Independence to Interdependence: Designing Systems for Complex Problems 31:20 – The VC Risk Model: Reframing Decisions around "What If It Goes Right?" 38:00 – Silo Busting & Final Takeaways

July 22, 202634 min

Helping the Workforce Lean into AI with Monica Marquez, Co-Founder of FlipWork

Host Mike Palmer connects with Monica Marquez, founder of ⁠FlipWork⁠ and founding director of the ⁠TIDE Center at UNT Dallas⁠, to explore how humans can navigate the rapid disruption of AI in the workplace. Drawing from her deep background in human capital, diversity, and leadership development at industry giants like Goldman Sachs, Google, and Bank of America, Monica brings a deeply human-centered approach to the AI revolution.  Mike and Monica skip the standard AI hype to discuss why simply rolling out AI tools isn't enough to drive real adoption. They dive into the psychology of AI integration, unpacking what Monica calls the "identity bottleneck" - the challenge workers face when shifting from a traditional mindset where "effort equals success" to a modern reality where "impact equals success." Monica also introduces her "long division" analogy for AI, explaining why we shouldn't ban the tool in classrooms or boardrooms, but instead require users to show their work and actively interrogate the AI's logic.  Key Discussion Topics:  * The Identity Bottleneck: Why our traditional conditioning to reward "grit and elbow grease" is causing resistance to AI's effortless outputs, and how to overcome the feeling of "cheating."  * Measuring AI Fluency: A look at FlipWork's psychometric diagnostic, which assesses "agentic velocity" (individual adoption) and "enterprise symbiosis" (organizational support).  * The Calculator Analogy: How educators and leaders can demand the "long division" of AI prompting to combat passive consumption ("work slop") and prevent cognitive atrophy.  * Agentic Teams: Why AI isn't a one-size-fits-all solution and how to orchestrate specialized models (like Claude, Perplexity, and Gemini) just like human team members.  * Democratizing Expertise: How everyday users can use AI as an accessible thinking partner to overcome biases, expand diversity of thought, and level the playing field.  Whether you're an educator, an enterprise leader, or an individual trying to disrupt yourself before you get disrupted, this episode offers a practical blueprint for multiplying human genius in the AI age. Subscribe to Trending in Education on your preferred podcast platform, leave a review, and share this episode with your network. Visit ⁠TrendinginEd.com⁠ for more episodes and conversations on the future of learning and work. Timestamps: 00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro 01:05 Monica’s Career Journey 03:57 Why FlipWork and AI 07:41 Enterprise Adoption Reality 13:45 Measuring AI Fluency 17:13 Identity Bottleneck Shift 21:56 Teaching Critical Thinking 26:08 Bias Trust and Agency 30:31 Guardrails and AI Teams 33:41 Final Takeaways

July 7, 202643 min

Leading from the Heart | Dr. D Ivan Young on Self-Empathy and the Neuroscience of Leadership

Host Mike Palmer connects with behavioral neuroscience expert and executive coach Dr. D. Ivan Young to discuss his book, Leading from the Heart. They analyze the balance between artificial intelligence and human emotion, detailing how self-empathy, compassion, and psychological safety impact leadership. Dr. Young also shares practical insights on managing emotional signals, navigating media-driven dopamine loops, and using metacognition to reset negative thought patterns. Key Discussion Topics: Self-Empathy First: Leaders cannot effectively provide empathy or compassion to others if they do not first possess it within themselves. Thermostats vs. Thermometers: Effective leaders actively regulate the energy and psychological safety of an environment rather than merely reflecting the existing temperature. Weaponized Empathy: Modern social media algorithms and political messaging exploit emotional triggers to divide populations, requiring individuals to consciously choose harmony instead. The Thought Map: A tactile, metacognitive exercise using physical writing shifts activity across brain regions to halt an amygdala hijack. Ethical AI & "Uriel": A clinical, patient-centered AI designed to eliminate programming bias and promote user self-efficacy and resilience. Authentic Human Connection: Addressing the loneliness epidemic requires disconnecting from curated online personas and grounding oneself in nature. Subscribe to Trending in Education on your preferred podcast platform, leave a review, and share this episode with your network. Visit TrendinginEd.com for more episodes. Learn more about Dr. D. Ivan Young and pick up Leading from the Heart: The Essential Guide to Self-Empathy and Self-Compassion in Coaching and Clinical Practice

July 6, 202633 min

Educators As Designers with Author Jim Gaona Ellis

How do we shift the role of teachers from passive curriculum implementers to active classroom architects? This week on Trending in Ed, host Mike Palmer is joined by K-12 math teacher and author Jim Gaona Ellis on the day his new book drops: Educators as Designers: The Hidden Architecture of Learning. Drawing from his unique background transitioning from an architecture student to a global educator across Phoenix, Madrid, and Vienna, Jim brings a fresh, human-centered lens to Universal Design for Learning (UDL). We dive deep into the real-world application of design thinking in the classroom, moving past rigid checklists to focus heavily on the actual problems students face. Key Insights: Deconstructing "Hostile Design" in Schools: Jim explains how hostile urban architecture (like park benches built to deter the unhoused) mirrors common school punishments—such as stripping away a student's lunch period for missing homework. We discuss how these reactions merely mask symptoms rather than addressing root causes like student confusion or forgetfulness. High-Tech vs. No-Tech Classroom Tools: We look at how Jim pairs digital platforms like Desmos to illustrate the immense scale of scientific notation with his absolute favorite tool: a massive, double-page whiteboard that fosters democratic, collaborative learning. AI and the "Illusion of Learning": Recording in 2026, we tackle the double-edged sword of the AI revolution. Jim envisions a massive upside where backend AI instantly identifies learning differences like dyslexia and dynamically adjusts workloads on a slider scale. However, we weigh this against the front-end risk of cognitive offloading, which can rob students of critical thinking and create a false sense of academic progress. Rejecting "Solution Salesmanship": Rather than treating educators as a passive market for pre-packaged tech tools, we advocate for an industry-wide return to respecting teachers as creative thought partners who co-design learning experiences directly with their students. Embracing the Constraints: From navigating shifting cultural norms to managing the industrial "cells and bells" physical structure of school buildings, Jim shares how treating systemic limitations as design puzzles is the ultimate key to teacher longevity and instructional growth. Subscribe to Trending in Ed on Youtube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite RSS player so you never miss a forward-thinking conversation like this one! Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and welcoming Jim Gaona Ellis 01:30 - Jim's global journey: Transitioning from architecture to teaching in Phoenix, Madrid, and Vienna 03:30 - What inspired the book and expanding on traditional UDL frameworks 06:30 - Understanding "hostile design" in urban spaces and its parallels in modern classrooms 11:00 - The state of AI in 2026: Automatic backend accommodations vs. the front-end "illusion of learning" 16:30 - Moving past educational "solution salesmanship" to truly respect and empower teachers 20:00 - Classrooms in action: Visualizing data with Desmos vs. the democratic power of whiteboards 22:30 - Overcoming the industrial "cells and bells" model through thoughtful classroom experimentation 30:30 - Final takeaways: How to embrace systemic constraints as a learning designer

June 23, 202650 min

Building Explainable AI with Beth Rudden - CEO at Bast AI

This week on Trending in Ed, host Mike Palmer is joined by Trending in Ed all-star Beth Rudden, CEO of Bast AI. From her roots digging in the dirt as an archaeologist to managing a $34 billion division as the Chief Data Officer of IBM Managed Services, Beth brings a deeply grounded, technical perspective to the artificial intelligence conversation. In this wide-ranging and insightful conversation, Mike and Beth skip the typical AI hype to explore what it actually takes to build explainable, trustworthy technology. Beth shares how Bast AI acts as an LLM-agnostic explainability layer—using a unique drinking chocolate analogy to demonstrate how they verify AI data rather than letting models hallucinate plausible narratives. They explore the practical application of using small language models (SLMs) for data enrichment, highlighted by Bast AI's meaningful work with Craig Hospital to translate complex neuro-spine outpatient procedures into accessible languages and analogies. KEY INSIGHTS: • Inverting the Chatbot Approach: Why defining what an AI can talk about is far more effective than building restrictive guardrails. • The Myth of "Human in the Loop": How shifting accountability to overworked humans can become a form of liability laundering. • Microservices vs. Agentic Harnesses: Looking at the risks of natural language agentic systems like Claude Code versus discrete, self-healing tasks. • Cognitive Offloading & Math Education: Why future technical skills should prioritize differential equations and the diversity prediction theorem over simple calculation. • Pattern Recognition vs. Choice: Defining true intelligence through the ability to choose wisely, rather than just matching mathematical patterns. They also cross paths with the Cynefin framework, explain how the human brain conserves energy by only holding two paradoxes at once, and unpack the cultural shifts reshaping modern engineering ethics. Stay ahead of the curve in education and technology! Please like and share this episode with your network, and follow the podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite player so you never miss an episode like this one. LINKS: Learn more about Bast AI: https://www.bast.ai Subscribe to Beth's Substack: https://substack.com/@bethrudden TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Introduction and welcoming Beth Rudden back to the show 01:00 - The drinking chocolate analogy for Explainable AI 03:00 - Beth’s lightning-round background: Archaeology to Chief Data Officer at IBM 05:00 - Getting "catfished by AI" and verifying facts with databases 07:00 - Mike on Gemini, RAG applications, and checking AI confabulation 09:00 - Enriched data and Small Language Models (SLMs) at Craig Hospital 12:00 - Epistemic security and inverting conversational technology 14:30 - Liability laundering and the illusion of "human in the loop" 15:30 - Agentic harnesses vs. self-healing microservices 20:00 - Understanding as labor and Conrad Wolfram's three-step math process 22:30 - Future human skills: Differential equations and jelly bean statistics 26:30 - Pattern recognition vs. true intelligence as the ability to choose 29:30 - Neurosymbolic systems and subjectivity in data science 34:30 - Shunting energy: The Cynefin framework and holding paradoxes 38:30 - Healthcare AI scribes and doctor burnout 44:30 - Trust architectures and building tech for the Maintenance Era 47:30 - Cultural devastation and the teleological suspension of ethics 49:00 - Final thoughts and wrapping up with Beth Rudden

June 9, 202637 min

Episode 750: Live from the HGSE Next Level Lab Spring Summit

In this milestone 750th episode of Trending in Education, host Mike Palmer takes the podcast on the road to the Harvard Graduate School of Education (HGSE) for the Next Level Lab Spring Learning Summit. Centered on the future of work, workforce learning, and instructional design, this episode features a dynamic series of conversations with emerging researchers and educational innovators who are reimagining how humans learn, lead, and thrive alongside advancing technology. Mike kicks off the celebration by reflecting on the podcast’s 750-episode journey, giving a nod to the community, and sharing updates on his latest media projects before diving into a packed poster session at the summit. The episode features five insightful interviews that bridge the gap between human capability and technological innovation. Ruiz Clark from Digital Promise shares his research on the Digital Leadership Convergence Model. He outlines a strategic project working with a large California school district to establish a vision for AI literacy, explaining why educational systems must look past basic technical literacy to completely rethink the purpose of education in an automated world. Palak Chandak and Archana Chaudhary discuss their framework for Humanics Integrated Business Studies (HIBS). They detail an innovative curriculum designed to cultivate durable skills, like communication and critical thinking, highlighting a real-world pilot project that embedded business students within coastal surf schools in India to solve community-driven challenges. Chilean entrepreneur Felipe Vergara Iduya introduces Hestia, an AI-supported framework designed to capture unstructured community evidence—such as peer relationships, behavior patterns, and school climate data—to foster system-level wellbeing within school ecosystems. Beth Sapire examines the intersection of learning and healing. Drawing on adult development theories and constructive developmental psychology, she outlines the systemic conditions necessary for expansive, collective learning within complex organizations. Finally, Sean Snyder and Bill Wisser from the HGSE Teaching and Learning Lab (TLL) break down their design and development process. They discuss the creation of a university-wide data fluency initiative for Harvard staff and explain how they utilized AI voice generation and animation tools to optimize course assets for the Data-Wise Learning Institute. Show References: Running It Back Podcast: Mike's Lessons Learned From Sports podcast with Tarlin Ray. ⁠Palm Court Pod:⁠ Mike's New College of Florida podcast with Grant Balfour and Megan Citron. Here's the John Oliver piece chronicling the challenges faced by Mike's alma mater. New College Film Project: Learn more about the documentary First They Came For My College directed by Harry Hanbury at newcollegefilm.com. The Convergence Model: Download the paper and view the poster framework developed by Ruiz Clark at theconvergencemodel.com. HGSE Teaching and Learning Lab: Explore the resources, course design support, and institutional projects mentioned by Sean and Bill at tll.gse.harvard.edu. Innovation-ish: Read up on the book by summit host Tessa Forshaw and co-author Rich Braden, a frequent touchstone on the podcast regarding creative confidence. ElevenLabs: Explore the AI voice generation platform utilized by the TLL team to streamline production logistics for simulated learning environments. Adobe Character Animator: Discover the performance-based animation software used to bring the TLL team's simulated teaching avatars to life. Timestamps: 00:00 Milestone 750th Episode Celebration and Welcome 01:54 Introduction to the Next Level Lab Spring Summit at HGSE 05:53 Ruiz Clark on AI Literacy and the Digital Leadership Convergence Model 10:30 Palak Chandak and Archana Chaudhary on Humanics Integrated Business Studies 17:30 Felipe Vergara Iduya on the Hestia Wellbeing Framework 23:30 Beth Sapire on Expansive Learning, Adult Development, and Healing 29:00 Sean Snyder and Bill Wisser on Data Fluency and AI Workflow at the HGSE TLL 35:30 Post-Summit Reflections and Summer Preview Like, Share, and Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts to stay updated on the latest trends in education. Bonus points for writing a review to help us run through the tape all the way to 1,000 episodes!