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Welcome to The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast! The Recruiters Recruitment Podcast is listened to from all corners of the globe. Created in the global lockdown of 2020, our audience drop in knowing that they are going to listen to a guest who is a knowledgable leader in their industry willingly sharing their professional and often personal journeys to enable YOU, our precious listener, a chance to learn, self-development and above all else, reflect on your own life and experience. A safe place where we hope to allow you to learn something. Our host - Lysha Holmes has been in the recruitment industry for almost a quarter of a century and for most of that duration, has championed best practise in the Rec2Rec sphere. A vocal advocate for well-being, Lysha talks openly about sobriety, and her life as a solo parent all whilst running a recruitment business. Here we are now in 2025- with Season 6 which will focus on the holistic approach to leadership with more experts and inspiring voices from across the recruitment industry and beyond, sharing their experiences with you, our cherished listener! The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is for those who are aspiring future leaders, those who want to improve themselves on their recruitment journey and also those who are running companies now to learn from their peers. Above all else, we hope you find the podcast to be a positive inspiring place to be. Watch all the episodes over on our YouTube channel- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEiVMynhdhSz4Qzu2gguHG ---------- This podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and a partner to Needi, Diversity in Recruitment, Keybridge IT, & Bristow & Hardy Sponsor: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. https://paiger.co Paiger Intelligence - Paiger turns thousands of hiring signals into a prioritised BD plan, helping recruiters identify opportunities, reveal end clients behind competitor adverts and find the decision makers worth contacting. https://paiger.co/intelligence Needi; Is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Lou’s team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service. From thank-you gifts for small start-ups to well-being events for FTSE 100 companies, Needi helps companies motivate and retain the best staff and clients, through thoughtful, affordable gifting, events and experience days. Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed and delivered by experienced recruiters, giving your teams the insight, tools, and confidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment. Keybridge IT Solutions; Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Established in 2010, Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support & solutions Provider. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud - Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. Working with many different industries, including Recruitment, Finance, Leisure and the Charity Sector. Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https://bristowandhardy.co.uk Don't forget to like and subscribe to our podcast and stay tuned for our episodes! ***Add your placement song to our podcast playlist! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0MJf3d4gnZNeBjtPqhAfrW?si=pOELhntxSYuPNyWRLHbhgg

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August 10, 20262 min

Season 6 Wrap-Up & What's Next - Lysha Holmes, Podcast Host & Founder of Qui Recruitment

Season 6 has been an incredible journey, and in this special wrap-up episode, host Lysha Holmes reflects on the season, thanks the amazing recruitment community for its continued support, and shares what's coming next. Thank you to everyone who has listened, watched, shared, and supported the podcast—we can't wait to welcome you back for another season of inspiring conversations. Season 7 launches in September 2026 — don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode! 🔗 Connect with Lysha Holmes LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger , and partnered with Needi , Keybridge IT Solutions , Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment . Our sponsor: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/ Our partners: Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service. https://needi.co.uk/ Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment. https://diversityinrecruitment.com/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #Recruitment #RecruitmentPodcast #RecruitmentIndustry #Staffing #TalentAcquisition #RecruitmentLeadership #FounderStories #RecruitmentBusiness #Hiring #Recruiters

August 3, 202649 min

EP335: Why Sleep, Stress & Human Connection Matter More Than Ever | Justin Hai, CEO, Rebalance Health

What if the biggest performance advantage in recruitment wasn’t another productivity hack, but better sleep? In this thought-provoking episode, Lysha Holmes is joined by Justin Hai , Co-Founder of Rebalance Health and author of Stress Nation , for a fascinating conversation about stress, cortisol, sleep, technology, loneliness and why our modern lifestyles are working against us. Justin explains why cortisol is the “master hormone”, how poor sleep impacts every aspect of our physical and mental wellbeing, and why protecting your sleep should be your number one strategy for long-term health and performance. Together, Lysha and Justin also explore social media, attention, burnout, leadership, recruitment, human connection and the growing loneliness epidemic, sharing practical ways to regain control in an increasingly distracted world. Whether you're leading a recruitment business, managing a busy desk or simply looking to improve your wellbeing, this episode is packed with actionable insights you can start applying today. Who this episode is for: Recruitment founders and business leaders Recruiters looking to improve resilience and performance Anyone experiencing stress, burnout or overwhelm Professionals interested in sleep, wellbeing and longevity 🔗 Connect with the guest Justin Hai: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinhai/ Rebalance Health: https://rebalancehealth.com/ Learn more about Justin’s book, Stress Nation : https://www.stressnationbook.com/ 🔗 Connect with the host Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger , and partnered with Needi , Keybridge IT Solutions , Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment . Our sponsor: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/ Our partners: Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service. https://needi.co.uk/ Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment. https://diversityinrecruitment.com/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #Recruitment #RecruitmentPodcast #Leadership #Wellbeing #MentalHealth #StressManagement #SleepHealth #Burnout #HumanConnection #RecruitmentLeadership

July 27, 202639 min

EP334: Why Reputation Is The Best Inbound Strategy - Kath Reynolds, Founder, Balance Recruitment

What does it take to build a recruitment business that stands the test of time? In this episode of The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast , Lysha Holmes welcomes back Kath Reynolds , Founder of Balance Recruitment , as she celebrates an incredible 18 years in business. Kath shares the principles that have helped her create a business built almost entirely on inbound referrals and long-term relationships. From protecting your reputation and earning trust to staying immersed in your market, this conversation is packed with practical advice for recruiters who want to build lasting success rather than chase quick wins. Lysha and Kath also explore how to remain relevant in a rapidly changing industry, why listening to clients is the key to future-proofing your business, and how Balance Recruitment has created a thriving remote-first culture based on trust, autonomy, accountability, and clear expectations. Whether you're an experienced recruiter, a business owner, or just starting your recruitment journey, this episode is full of timeless insights that will help you strengthen client relationships, build credibility, and create a business people genuinely want to work with. Who this episode is for: Recruitment business owners Agency leaders and managers Recruiters looking to build long-term client relationships Anyone interested in creating a successful remote recruitment culture 🔗 Connect with the guest Kath Reynolds: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathreynolds1/ Balance Recruitment: https://www.balancerecruitment.com/ 🔗 Connect with the host Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger , and partnered with Needi , Keybridge IT Solutions , Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment . Our sponsor: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/ Our partners: Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service. https://needi.co.uk/ Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment. https://diversityinrecruitment.com/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #Recruitment #RecruitmentPodcast #AgencyLeadership #RecruitmentBusiness #RecruitmentFounder #RemoteWork #Leadership #RecruitmentCareers

July 20, 202643 min

EP333: Just F*cking Do It: Exits, Growth & Founder Mindset - Laura Linden, Fractional CFO, Feisty FD

What does building a recruitment business with the end in mind actually look like? And does an "exit" always mean selling? In this episode, Lysha Holmes is joined by Laura Linden , founder of Feisty FD and better known as “The Exit Queen." Laura has helped multiple recruitment businesses prepare for successful exits and shares practical, no-nonsense advice on how founders can build companies that thrive with – or without – them. Together they explore: Why every founder should think about exit planning from day one The different types of business exits beyond a trade sale How niche recruitment businesses create greater value Why culture and founder independence matter more than revenue alone The mindset shift needed to stop waiting and start building Why female founders often underestimate themselves – and how confidence, financial literacy and better decision-making can change everything Expect candid conversations, plenty of laughs (including an unexpected detour into adult toys!), and honest opinions on entrepreneurship, risk-taking and creating businesses that give you freedom, not just profit. Who this episode is for: Recruitment founders and aspiring founders Recruiters considering launching their own business Business owners thinking about growth, succession or exit Women in recruitment and leadership Anyone who wants practical advice on building a valuable business 🔗 Connect with the guest Laura Linden: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-linden-feisty/ Feisty FD: https://www.feistyfd.com/ 🔗 Connect with the host Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger , and partnered with Needi , Keybridge IT Solutions , Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment . Our sponsor: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/ Our partners: Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service. https://needi.co.uk/ Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment. https://diversityinrecruitment.com/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #Recruitment #RecruitmentPodcast #RecruitmentFounder #BusinessGrowth #ExitStrategy #Entrepreneurship #WomenInBusiness #Leadership #RecruitmentIndustry #ScalingBusiness

July 13, 202638 min

EP332: 4 Hacks to Improve Your Odds of Success - Kyle Austin Young, Writer & Strategy Consultant

What if success isn't just about talent or luck—but about improving your odds? In this episode of The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast, Lysha Holmes is joined by strategy consultant and writer Kyle Austin Young to explore how recruiters, hiring managers and business leaders can make better decisions by thinking in probabilities rather than assumptions. Kyle shares the framework behind his book, "Success Is a Numbers Game: Achieve Bigger Goals by Changing the Odds”, explaining how to map success, identify hidden risks, and "probability hack" your way to better outcomes. Together, Lysha and Kyle discuss how this approach applies directly to recruitment—from making stronger hiring decisions and assessing candidates more effectively to helping job seekers evaluate career opportunities and setting smarter business goals. The conversation also covers: Why most goals fail despite feeling achievable How to identify and reduce the biggest risks to success A practical framework for hiring with long-term business objectives in mind Kyle's four paths to success and how recruiters can apply them immediately Whether you're recruiting, hiring, growing a business or planning your next career move, this episode offers practical strategies to improve your decision-making and increase your chances of success. 🔗 Connect with the guest Kyle Austin Young: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyleaustinyoung/ Pick up a copy of Kyle’s book, “Success Is a Numbers Game: Achieve Bigger Goals by Changing the Odds”: https://a.co/d/0fcbWgeh 🔗 Connect with the host Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger , and partnered with Needi , Keybridge IT Solutions , Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment . Our sponsor: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/ Our partners: Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service. https://needi.co.uk/ Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment. https://diversityinrecruitment.com/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #RecruitmentPodcast #Recruitment #Hiring #TalentAcquisition #Leadership #BusinessStrategy #GoalSetting #RecruitmentIndustry #Careers #ProbabilityHack

July 6, 202635 min

EP331: From Recruiter at 15 to Managing Director - Chloe Marsh, MD of Get Recruited

In this episode of The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast , Lysha Holmes is joined by Chloe Marsh , Managing Director of Get Recruited , to explore an inspiring recruitment career that began at just 15 years old and has led to the boardroom. Chloe shares how she progressed through five promotions in eight years within the same business, the mindset shifts required to step into a Managing Director role, and why leadership is about preparation, trust and empowering others—not doing everything yourself. The conversation also tackles an often-overlooked topic: age discrimination against young recruiters. Chloe reflects on the challenges she faced early in her career and why the recruitment industry must do more to judge people on capability rather than age. Lysha and Chloe also discuss building a resilient culture during one of the toughest recruitment markets in recent years, balancing commercial performance with empathy, embracing multi-generational teams, and adapting strategies to keep moving forward when conditions are challenging. Whether you're an aspiring leader, experienced recruiter or recruitment business owner, this episode is packed with honest insights on career progression, leadership and creating a people-first culture. 🔗 Connect with the guest Chloe Marsh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-marsh-51685273/ Get Recruited: https://www.get-recruited.co.uk/ 🔗 Connect with the host Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger , and partnered with Needi , Keybridge IT Solutions , Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment . Our sponsor: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/ Our partners: Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service. https://needi.co.uk/ Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment. https://diversityinrecruitment.com/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #Recruitment #RecruitmentLeadership #ManagingDirector #RecruitmentCareers #Leadership #CompanyCulture #TalentAcquisition #RecruitmentPodcast #WomenInLeadership #RecruitmentIndustry

June 29, 202638 min

EP330: Why Face-to-Face Networking Wins Business - Mike Dias, Senior Talent Partner, Forge Talent

In this episode of The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast , Lysha Holmes sits down with Mike Dias , Senior Talent Partner at Forge Talent , to explore an inspiring career journey that spans international rugby, life across three countries, and a successful transition into recruitment. Mike shares how the skills developed through competitive sport—resilience, teamwork, accountability, feedback, and discipline—became the foundation of his recruitment career. From representing Portugal in international rugby to becoming a key figure in one of the North West’s fastest-growing recruitment businesses, his story highlights the value of looking beyond traditional talent pools when hiring recruiters. The conversation also tackles the realities of today’s recruitment market. Mike and Lysha discuss why relationship-building remains the ultimate differentiator despite advances in AI and automation, the importance of face-to-face networking, and why the best recruiters still win through trust, credibility, and genuine human connection. They also dive into: How sport develops future recruitment talent Building business through networks rather than cold outreach The current challenges facing permanent recruitment Boutique vs corporate recruitment firms Why recruiters must master the basics before chasing the latest trends The culture and growth story behind Forge Talent Who this episode is for: Recruitment business owners and leaders Recruiters looking to improve business development Professionals considering a move into recruitment Sportspeople exploring careers beyond professional sport Anyone interested in building stronger professional relationships 🔗 Connect with the guest Mike Dias: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-dias-120a7b9a/ Forge Talent: https://forge-talent.co.uk/ 🔗 Connect with the host Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger , and partnered with Needi , Keybridge IT Solutions , Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment . Our sponsor: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/ Our partners: Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service. https://needi.co.uk/ Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment. https://diversityinrecruitment.com/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #RecruitmentPodcast #Recruitment #TalentAcquisition #BusinessDevelopment #Networking #RecruitmentLeadership #ForgeTalent #TalentPartner #SportsToBusiness #RecruiterLife #RecruitmentIndustry #TheRecruitersRecruitmentPodcast

June 22, 202634 min

EP329: Being on The Apprentice: Taking Risks & Starting Again - Melica Moshiri, Founder, SkillTorch

What really happens when you leave your recruitment business behind to compete on one of the UK’s biggest TV shows? In this episode of The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast, host Lysha Holmes sits down with Melica Moshiri, Founder of SkillTorch, AI and robotics search specialist, TEDx speaker, podcast host, and former contestant on BBC’s The Apprentice . Melica shares her journey from a law graduate accidentally discovering recruitment, through high-performance agency life, relocating to the US, and eventually launching her own executive search business focused on AI, automation and robotics. She also opens up about the realities of building a company, navigating homesickness, and having to effectively start her business twice. Melica also shares candid advice for recruiters, founders and aspiring entrepreneurs on resilience, adaptability and creating opportunities in rapidly evolving markets. 🔗 Connect with the guest Melica Moshiri: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melica/ SkillTorch: https://skill-torch.com/ 🔗 Connect with the host Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ Thanks to John Gaughan for the introduction: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johngaughanfja/ Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger , and partnered with Needi , Keybridge IT Solutions , Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment . Our sponsor: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/ Our partners: Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service. https://needi.co.uk/ Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment. https://diversityinrecruitment.com/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #RecruitmentPodcast #RecruitmentIndustry #ExecutiveSearch #ArtificialIntelligence #Robotics #TheApprentice #Entrepreneurship #RecruitmentFounder #TalentAcquisition #StaffingIndustry #PersonalBranding #BusinessGrowth #RecTech

June 15, 202645 min

EP328: Referrals, Resilience & Market Trends in 2026 - Shannon Rowlands, Qui Recruitment

In this episode of The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast , Lysha Holmes sits down once again with Shannon Rowlands, Principal Recruitment Consultant at Qui Recruitment, to explore market trends, as well as what it really takes to build a long-term, successful career in recruitment. The conversation covers the habits, behaviours and mindset that have helped her thrive through market highs, lows and everything in between. Topics discussed include: How recruiters can build a reputation that drives referrals and repeat business What the best recruitment companies are doing to retain top performers Why culture, communication and flexibility matter more than ever The real impact of AI and automation on recruitment businesses How recruiters are using AI to remove admin and focus on relationship-building Advice Shannon would give her younger self when starting out in recruitment The importance of process, consistency and learning from experienced recruiters Managing motivation and resilience during challenging market conditions The hottest recruitment sectors in 2026, emerging opportunities, and industries facing headwinds Whether you're a recruitment leader, experienced recruiter, or just beginning your recruitment journey, this episode offers practical insights, honest reflections, and plenty of encouragement for navigating today's market. 🔗 Connect with the guest Shannon Rowlands: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannon-rowlands-663089ba/ 🔗 Connect with the host Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger , and partnered with Needi , Keybridge IT Solutions , Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment . Our sponsor: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/ Our partners: Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service. https://needi.co.uk/ Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment. https://diversityinrecruitment.com/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #Recruitment #RecruitmentPodcast #Rec2Rec #RecruitmentLeadership #AIInRecruitment #RecruitmentCareers #TalentAcquisition #RecruitmentIndustry #HiringTrends #TheRecruitersRecruitmentPodcast

June 8, 202632 min

EP327: How Recruiters Can Save 40% of Their Working Day - Lawson Leefe, CVME & Hedera Hiring

EXCLUSIVE DEAL for anyone who gets in touch with Lawson: Mention The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast and get 14 days unlimited use of formatting on CVME, and an additional £20 free credit if you sign up after the trial. See below for links. —————— In this episode of The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast, Lysha Holmes sits down with Lawson Leefe , Director of Hedera Hiring and Core Developer of CVME , to discuss his unique journey from recruitment leader to software developer and tech founder. Unlike many technology providers serving the recruitment industry, Lawson is still actively running a recruitment business. That means every feature within CVME has been built to solve real-world recruitment challenges rather than theoretical ones. During the conversation, Lawson shares: His recruitment career and experience building specialist utilities recruitment firm Hedera Hiring. Why he taught himself to code after becoming frustrated with the time recruiters spend searching, formatting, and presenting CVs. How CVME automates CV formatting and candidate sourcing to help recruiters reclaim hours every week. This is a fascinating discussion for anyone interested in recruitment technology, operational efficiency, AI adoption, and building products from inside the industry rather than from the outside. 🔗 Connect with the guest Lawson Leefe: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawsonleefe/ CVME: https://cvme.ai/ Hedera Hiring: https://www.hederahiring.com/ 🔗 Connect with the host Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger , and partnered with Needi , Keybridge IT Solutions , Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment . Our sponsor: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/ Our partners: Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service. https://needi.co.uk/ Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment. https://diversityinrecruitment.com/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #Recruitment #RecruitmentTechnology #AIInRecruitment #RecruitmentLeadership #RecruitmentPodcast #StaffingIndustry #TalentAcquisition #RecruitmentInnovation #CVME #RecruitersRecruitmentPodcast

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