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The Peerbound Podcast

The Peerbound Podcast

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53

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May 2026

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On The Peerbound Podcast, we believe customer centricity is core to success. And our host, Sunny Manivannan, is excited to share stories from customer-obsessed leaders who consistently raise the bar. Tune in weekly to hear top marketing leaders in enterprise software discuss their career journeys and share their unique insights, future predictions, and proven strategies for amplifying the voice of the customer to accelerate growth.

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May 13, 202630 min

Kate Mahon, Director of Customer Lifecycle Marketing at Cisco, on How Business Context Shapes Marketing

Description: In this episode, Kate and Sunny talk about what it really means to understand the business you're operating in and how that changes the way you do customer marketing. Kate shares lessons from starting her career during the Great Recession in London, localizing campaigns across 10 markets in the Middle East for HP, and eventually going in-house at Splunk where she learned how to communicate the full lifecycle value of customer marketing to the CMO. She breaks down why knowing where your company's capital comes from (public, PE, venture, family-owned) changes how you set strategy, allocate resources, and tell the story of your impact. They also get into the current state of AI in marketing, why starting with the business problem matters more than the tool, and the advice that has guided her career since college: figure out where you want to be on a bad day. Topics covered: → Starting a career in PR during the Great Recession in London  → What selling ham and pitching journalists teaches you about sales and knowing your audience  → Why working internationally forces you to seek to understand before imposing your own playbook  → Going in-house at Splunk after nearly a decade in agencies  → How customer marketing impacts the entire lifecycle, from awareness to expansion, and how to communicate that value  → Why understanding your company's capital structure changes how you operate  → AI as a tool, not a strategy, and why starting with the business problem matters  → The career advice that stuck: know where you want to be on a bad day Chapters: 00:00 Know Your Capital Source 00:29 Meet Kate Mahon 01:15 First Job in London PR 03:49 Early Career Lessons and Ham Pitches 07:48 Where to Be on a Bad Day 09:37 Going Global and Going In House 13:34 Splunk Promotions and Proving Value 17:15 MBA Insight Capital Pressures 20:17 AI Tools and Peerbound Favorites

April 14, 202636 min

Brittnee Dawson, VP of Product & Customer Marketing at Service Express, on Advocacy at Every Stage

Episode Description: Brittnee Dawson is VP of Product & Customer Marketing at Service Express, with previous experience leading customer marketing at AlphaSense, Experity, and Anaplan. She started her career at Thomson Reuters, where she worked in video production and product management before finding her way into customer marketing. In this episode, Brittnee and Sunny talk about why advocacy should never be an afterthought. Brittnee shares how she embeds customer marketing into every stage of the customer lifecycle, from onboarding to expansion, so that advocacy becomes a natural output of a great customer experience rather than a one-off request. She talks about why the playbook is more similar across industries than people think, what erodes customer trust (siloed experiences), and how to make sales enablement work by getting the right proof to reps at the right moment. They also get into the tension between scaling with AI and maintaining genuine human connection, and why customer marketers have a strategic advantage as the people who can use AI in a human-first way. Topics covered: → How a background in film and visual storytelling shaped Brittnee's approach to customer marketing → Why the customer marketing playbook is more universal than people think across industries → Embedding advocacy into the full customer lifecycle instead of treating it as an add-on → What builds and what erodes customer trust → The evolution of sales enablement and putting customer proof in front of reps at the right time → Scaling with AI while keeping the human connection intact → Why customer marketers are uniquely positioned to use AI in a human-first way Chapters: 00:00 Advocacy Is Built In 00:57 From Film To Customer Marketing 02:36 Storytelling And AI Shift 11:33 Lifecycle Design And Trust 17:18 Sales Enablement With Advocacy 19:53 Content Libraries Are Dead 21:20 Personalized Enablement Moments 22:11 Full Automation Meets Trust 24:30 Human Stories Beat Data 30:58 Recommendations And Wrap Up

January 8, 202649 min

Jess Walker McFarland, Customer Advocacy Leader, on Leadership & Building Advocacy for IPO Readiness

About the GuestJess Walker McFarland is a customer marketing and advocacy leader with experience at BMC Software (7+ years), Splunk, and Rubrik (3.5+ years). At Rubrik, she led customer advocacy and executive programs through the company's IPO. She's currently a free agent exploring what's next.DescriptionIn this episode, Sunny sits down with Jess Walker McFarland, a customer marketing and advocacy leader with experience at BMC Software, Splunk, and Rubrik, to discuss building customer advocacy programs, preparing customer stories for IPO, and what it really takes to make the leap from senior manager to director.Jess shares how she transitioned from partner marketing to customer advocacy at Splunk, why she sought out the challenge of IPO readiness at Rubrik, and her management philosophy of "enable, empower, and get out of the way." We dive into how customer storytelling changes when your audience shifts from buyers to investors, what makes the senior manager to director leap so difficult, and her take on AI: the tools are incredible, but the thinking is still your job.Whether you're navigating your first leadership role or preparing your advocacy program for a major company milestone, Jess's insights on building trust with your team and articulating the "why" to stakeholders will give you plenty to think about.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Early Career Beginnings00:38 Navigating PR and First Major Career Pivot03:14 Expat Experience and Life-Changing Moments09:10 Transition to Field and Partner Marketing15:14 High Growth at Splunk and Leadership Lessons25:33 The Leap from Senior Manager to Director27:26 Navigating Leadership and Team Dynamics30:29 Transitioning to Rubrik and IPO Experience38:51 Exploring AI and Personal Growth47:16 Recommendations and Final Thoughts Jess Walker McFarland: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicawm/Sunny Manivannan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnymanivannan/

December 4, 202540 min

Jennifer Thompson, Sr. Customer Marketing Manager at Amperity, on Your Greatest Sales Team

In this episode, Sunny sits down with Jennifer Thompson, Senior Customer Marketing Manager at Amperity, to discuss the evolution of customer marketing, building advocacy programs, and why your happiest customers deserve more attention than they're getting.Jennifer shares her journey from account management to pioneering customer marketing roles, including how she helped the Seattle Seahawks tell their fan engagement story in record time. We dive deep into what makes great customer marketers, how to prove your value internally, and why customer marketing is about so much more than just case studies.Whether you're new to customer marketing or a seasoned pro, Jen's insights on the customer journey flywheel, working with AI tools, and creating advocates at every touchpoint will inspire you to think differently about your role.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:35 Jen's Career Beginnings01:33 Transition to Customer Marketing07:08 Impact of AI in Marketing11:11 Customer Success Stories19:43 Characteristics of a Successful Customer Marketer22:51 Building Internal Support23:40 Creating Advocates and Proving Value28:48 Examples of Great Marketing33:30 Favorite Apps, Technologies, and RecommendationsResources & Links MentionedPeople:Jennifer Thompson - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-t-/Sunny Manivannan - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnymanivannan/Case Studies:Seattle Seahawks Case Study - https://amperity.com/customers/seattle-seahawksExtra:Witches of Moonshyne Manor - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60421214-the-witches-of-moonshyne-manor

November 10, 202537 min

Chris Dalton, Director of Customer Marketing at Clari, on Proactive Customer Marketing

Episode DescriptionChris Dalton manages customer testimonials, speaking engagements, reference programs, peer reviews, a customer advisory board, and ad hoc requests, all by himself. His secret? Building autonomous systems and focusing relentlessly on what actually accelerates revenue.In this episode, Chris shares how Clari's CMO mandates voice of customer content in every campaign, why content utilization matters more than content creation, and how he's building a proactive customer marketing system that serves the right references and content at exactly the right time. If you're trying to scale customer marketing with limited resources, this conversation is packed with strategies you won't want to miss.What You'll LearnHow to build autonomous customer marketing systems that run without daily involvementWhy the shift from reactive to proactive is the future of customer marketingThe utilization problem: why having 100 case studies means nothing if reps don't use themHow AI enables entirely new work rather than just replacing existing tasksProductivity habits from Deep Work and 7 Habits of Highly Effective People that create real efficiencyHow to build strong relationships with revenue teams and prove your impactWhy tools don't solve behavior problems and what actually drives adoptionChapters00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:44 Chris Dalton's Career Journey03:14 Role and Responsibilities at Clari04:17 Challenges and Innovations in Customer Marketing06:41 The Future of Customer Marketing10:53 Voice of Customer and Its Importance14:47 AI in Customer Marketing19:33 Efficiency and Productivity Tips26:22 Building Relationships with Revenue Teams34:37 Final Thoughts and ConclusionGuest BioChris Dalton is Director of Customer Marketing at Clari, where he runs all advocacy programs as a one-person team. With over a decade of experience at companies like SurveyMonkey, Evanta (now Gartner), and Clari, Chris has mastered the art of scaling customer marketing through automation, AI, and strategic enablement. He's known for his efficiency, his strong relationships with revenue teams, and his vision for building proactive customer marketing systems.Key TakeawayThe future of customer marketing isn't about getting really good at reactive work. It's about building systems that deliver the right content, references, and insights before your teams even know they need them. When you shift from reactive to proactive, you unlock the full potential of voice of customer content and create measurable revenue impact.Connect with Chris Dalton: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daltonchristopher/

November 6, 202542 min

Mary Green, Founder of CMAWeekly, on Building an Engaged Customer Marketing Community

Episode DescriptionMary Green didn't realize she'd been doing customer marketing for years until she saw a job posting that finally named what she'd been building all along. Now, as the founder of CMA Weekly and Director of Community Platforms at Infor, she's created a 1,500-member community that's become an indispensable resource for customer marketers navigating an evolving profession.In this episode, Mary pulls back the curtain on building authentic professional communities, the changing landscape of customer marketing roles, and why working without community in 2025 is like working without AI. You're simply leaving opportunities on the table.What You'll LearnThe origin story of CMA Weekly and how it grew to 1,500+ active membersWhat the "no vendors" channel is and how it became essential for honest, confidential vendor feedbackHow customer marketing roles are expanding and what the current job market looks likeWhy professional community isn't optional anymore and how it saves months of learning timeStrategies for fostering authentic engagement and maintaining community trustChapters00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome01:37 Mary Green's Journey into Customer Advocacy03:50 Building and Growing CMA Weekly05:21 Community Engagement and Support11:38 The No Vendors Channel16:23 Vendor Competition and Community Dynamics24:55 The Evolving Role of Customer Marketing31:01 Job Market Insights and Advice39:49 Future Plans for CMA Weekly41:10 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsGuest BioMary Green is the founder of CMA Weekly, an authentic community of over 1,500 customer marketing professionals, and serves as Director of Community Platforms at Infor. With years of experience building customer advocacy programs before the role officially existed, Mary has become a leading voice in the customer marketing space, creating resources and connections that help professionals navigate this evolving field.Key TakeawayIn today's fast-paced marketing landscape, having access to a trusted professional community isn't a nice-to-have. It's essential infrastructure. Whether you're troubleshooting vendor relationships, understanding market rates, or simply learning from others' experiences, community accelerates your growth and saves you from costly mistakes.Connect with Mary Green: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marygreencny/Resources Mentioned:CMA Weekly Community: https://cmaweekly.com/

October 15, 202541 min

Daniel Palay, Director of Customer Marketing at Grafana Labs, on Metrics That Prove Impact

Daniel Palay, Director of Customer Marketing at Grafana Labs, joins Sunny to challenge how we think about customer marketing success. They cover the power of saying no strategically, why you should measure net dollar retention instead of activity metrics, and how to use AI to focus on work that actually moves the needle. Daniel also shares lessons from building customer marketing teams at two high-growth startups.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:45 Daniel's Early Career Journey01:36 Transition to Customer Marketing02:12 Building Customer Marketing at Elastic03:56 Joining Grafana Labs07:34 Pandemic Reflections and Personal Growth11:30 The Power of Saying No in Customer Marketing18:07 Strategic Customer Marketing and AI19:25 The Strategic Promise of AI in SaaS20:11 Embedding in Core Constituencies21:06 Challenging Traditional Metrics22:36 The Pitfalls of Activity Metrics27:32 Advocacy and Net Dollar Retention31:25 Deal Velocity and Customer Marketing35:58 Embracing AI for Strategic Growth38:43 Building Effective Customer Marketing TeamsDaniel's CMA Summit SF 2025 Talk: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/119iNfiaqP8AVTs7Np2xInrsRXvxWS8mLkwKMDBAHQl8/edit?slide=id.g1d7246a57b5_0_8#slide=id.g1d7246a57b5_0_8Featuring:Daniel Palay:LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielpalay/Sunny Manivannan:LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnymanivannan/X — https://x.com/sunnymanivannanFollow us:LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/peerbound-incTune in:Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peerbound-podcast/id1708825056Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/5GO3n6pATX10fkY8lgf3GXYouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@peerbound

September 16, 202539 min

Mel Cornford, Customer Marketing Lead at Canva, on Scaling Human-First Content Made for the Platform

Mel Cornford, Customer Marketing Lead at Canva, joins host, Sunny Manivannan on the Peerbound Podcast to discuss her transition from journalism to customer marketing. She shares her career journey, highlights from her work at notable media brands, and how those experiences shaped her approach at Canva. Mel emphasizes the importance of understanding sales teams' needs, creating human-first storytelling, and leveraging AI for efficiency. The conversation also explores the significance of testing, building internal and external relationships, and creating platform-specific content. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 01:00 Mel Cornford's Journey into Customer Marketing 01:12 Early Career and Journalism Background 02:10 Transition to Digital and Fashion Media 03:14 Shift to News and Building Digital Presence 07:48 Joining Canva and Initial Role 10:24 Finding and Celebrating Community Stories 14:22 Switching to B2B and Enterprise Marketing 16:23 Storytelling Approach and Social Content 23:47 Sales and Marketing Synergy at Canva 31:04 Leveraging AI in Customer Marketing 36:12 Advice for Early Career Customer Marketers 38:32 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Canva's Video Content: Sam Barker Story: https://www.canva.com/newsroom/news/sams-story-lessons-wwii-veteran-turned-childrens-book-author/ Elsewhere Story: https://www.canva.com/newsroom/news/how-two-entrepreneurs-launched-a-travel-business-in-a-pandemic-with-canva/Docusign Case Study: https://www.canva.com/case-studies/docusign/Featuring:Mel Cornford:LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/mel-cornford-8751393/Sunny Manivannan:LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnymanivannan/X — https://x.com/sunnymanivannanFollow us:LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/peerbound-incTune in:Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peerbound-podcast/id1708825056Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/5GO3n6pATX10fkY8lgf3GXYouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@peerbound

September 10, 202544 min

Michael Sciano, Customer Marketing and Advocacy Leader, on Standing Out in a Competitive Job Market

In this episode of The Peerbound Podcast, host Sunny Manivannan sits down with Michael Sciano, a seasoned customer marketing and advocacy leader with more than 15 years of experience across industry-leading companies including Adobe, Salesforce, and ServiceTitan. Michael shares his unique path from high school history teacher to tech, highlighting lessons learned along the way and what it takes to build a resilient career in customer marketing. The conversation explores the evolving role of customer marketing, how AI is reshaping the job search, and the importance of networking and genuine relationships in today’s competitive market. He also makes the case for why customer marketing deserves more investment and visibility at the leadership level, offering actionable advice for professionals looking to grow in this fast-changing field. Whether you’re navigating the job market or building advocacy programs, Michael’s perspective provides grounded, practical insights for the future of customer marketing. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction and Guest Welcome (01:04) Early Career and Education (02:27) Transition to Tech Industry (04:33) Experience at ExactTarget (05:37) Roles in Technology and Marketing (07:16) Customer Marketing Evolution (11:08) Job Market Challenges and Advice (24:39) The Power of Networking (25:49) Building Genuine Relationships (26:47) Navigating the Job Market (32:51) The Role of AI in Job Searches (38:16) The Future of Customer Marketing (43:48) Final Thoughts and Takeaways Featuring: Michael Sciano:  LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelsciano/Sunny Manivannan: LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnymanivannan/ X — https://x.com/sunnymanivannan Follow us: LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/peerbound-inc Tune in: Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peerbound-podcast/id1708825056 Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/5GO3n6pATX10fkY8lgf3GX YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@peerbound

July 31, 202540 min

Emily Coleman, Senior Manager of Customer Marketing and Advocacy at LaunchDarkly, on Empowering Customers Through Authentic Storytelling

In this episode of The Peerbound Podcast, host Sunny Manivannan sits down with Emily Coleman, Senior Manager of Customer Marketing & Advocacy at LaunchDarkly, to talk about her unexpected path into customer marketing, which began in politics and later led to high-pressure communications work during the SolarWinds cybersecurity crisis. Today, she focuses on building scalable advocacy programs at LaunchDarkly, with AI playing an increasingly important role.Emily shares how her early work in politics sharpened her empathy and storytelling instincts, the lessons she learned navigating a cybersecurity crisis at SolarWinds, and how she’s rethinking advocacy at LaunchDarkly with a focus on authenticity, design, and emerging technology.Whether you’re revamping your customer story motion or looking to scale with limited resources, Emily’s story offers a thoughtful, grounded view of what it takes to build trust and elevate the voice of your customers.(00:00) Introduction and Guest Welcome(01:05) Emily Coleman's Early Career and Education(05:39) Political Career and Casework(10:22) Transition to Tech and Initial Challenges(15:02) Growth and Success at SolarWinds(17:53) Navigating a Big Company(19:36) Facing Challenges at SolarWinds(20:29) The SolarWinds Hack: A Crisis Unfolds(23:03) Building Trust and Advocacy Post-Breach(24:39) Transition to LaunchDarkly(28:49) Revamping the Customer Stories Page(32:54) Incorporating AI in Customer AdvocacyFeaturing:Emily Coleman:LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilyecoleman/Sunny Manivannan:LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnymanivannan/X — https://x.com/sunnymanivannanFollow us:LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/peerbound-incTune in:Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peerbound-podcast/id1708825056Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/5GO3n6pATX10fkY8lgf3GXYouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@peerbound

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