The Muni 360 Podcast from New York Life Investment Management

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The seasoned, active investors at MacKay Municipal Managers provide valuable insights into the highly fragmented, complex, and inefficient municipal bond market. With topics that can range from public policy, market technicals, and municipal strategies for clients to consider, tune in to our monthly in-depth conversations for the team’s latest views on the municipal market. MacKay Municipal Managers is a team of portfolio managers at MacKay Shields. MacKay Shields is 100% owned by NYLIM Holdings, which is wholly owned by New York Life Insurance Company.

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October 16, 202619 min

Turning Muni Losses Into Opportunities

The recent rise in interest rates has put pressure on municipal bond prices, but it may also be creating new opportunities for investors. In this episode, host Eric Kazatsky welcomes back Jack Muller of MacKay Municipal Managers to discuss what’s driving the recent muni market sell-off, why the move is primarily a rate and technical story rather than broad credit deterioration, and how higher yields are reshaping the opportunity set. They also explore tax-loss harvesting and swapping, including how investors can potentially realize losses while maintaining municipal exposure and income. Jack explains what to consider when evaluating replacement bonds, from credit and duration to yield, pricing, transaction costs, and wash-sale rules. The conversation also looks at how strong new issuance and secondary-market selling are creating more choices for investors looking for relative value in today’s muni market. Follow Us Twitter @NYLInvestments Twitter @MacKayMuniMgrs Facebook @NYLInvestments LinkedIn: New York Life Investments LinkedIn: MacKay Municipal Managers Presented by New York Life Investments www.newyorklifeinvestments.com MacKay Municipal Managers is a team of portfolio managers at MacKay Shields. MacKay Shields is 100% owned by NYLIM Holdings, which is wholly owned by New York Life Insurance Company. “New York Life Investments” is both a service mark, and the common trade name, of certain investment advisors affiliated with New York Life Insurance Company. SMRU: 8797309 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

September 18, 202636 min

The Price of Money Has Changed

The price of money has changed—and for municipal investors, that may be the most important story of the fall. In this episode, host Eric Kazatsky is joined by Jack Muller, Investment Strategist at MacKay Municipal Managers, to connect the dots between Treasuries, munis, supply, and the Fed. They discuss why the Fed no longer tells the whole rate story, what the Treasury's expanded buyback activity can—and can't—do for the long end, and why higher muni yields reflect the macro backdrop rather than credit deterioration. Jack breaks down a steeper curve that finally pays investors to extend, a record year of issuance that demand keeps absorbing, and the "Rubicon moment" that brings crossover buyers into the tax-exempt market. They close with the growing dispersion in municipal credit—upgrades in Illinois and New Jersey, pressure on local governments, school districts, higher education, and healthcare—and what persistent volatility means from here. Follow Us ● Twitter @NYLInvestments ● Twitter @MacKayMuniMgrs ● Facebook @NYLInvestments ● LinkedIn: New York Life Investments ● LinkedIn: MacKay Municipal Managers Presented by New York Life Investments www.newyorklifeinvestments.com MacKay Municipal Managers is a team of portfolio managers at MacKay Shields. MacKay Shields is 100% owned by NYLIM Holdings, which is wholly owned by New York Life Insurance Company. “New York Life Investments” is both a service mark, and the common trade name, of certain investment advisors affiliated with New York Life Insurance Company. SMRU: 8797059 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

August 21, 202623 min

Finding Value After the July Sell-Off

After one of the toughest Julys for municipal bonds in decades, opportunity may be picking up, but only for those who know where to look. In this episode of the Muni 360 podcast, host Eric Kazatsky and guest Jack Muller dig into the forces behind the recent correction, what’s really happening with credit fundamentals, and how investors can position amid technical headwinds, political uncertainty, and shifting tax proposals. They break down the implications of the Missouri tax vote, what supply surges could mean for returns, and why higher yields should have muni buyers paying close attention right now. Whether you’re watching flows, digging for value, or weighing credit shifts, this conversation covers the essential market drivers you need to know. Watch the full episode now. Follow Us Twitter @NYLInvestments Twitter @MacKayMuniMgrs Facebook @NYLInvestments LinkedIn: New York Life Investments LinkedIn: MacKay Municipal Managers Presented by New York Life Investments www.newyorklifeinvestments.com MacKay Municipal Managers is a team of portfolio managers at MacKay Shields. MacKay Shields is 100% owned by NYLIM Holdings, which is wholly owned by New York Life Insurance Company. “New York Life Investments” is both a service mark, and the common trade name, of certain investment advisors affiliated with New York Life Insurance Company. SMRU: 8796789 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

August 20, 20263 min

Robust Demand Absorbs a Heavier New-Issue Calendar

Munis remain well-supported by investors Follow Us Twitter @NYLInvestments Twitter @MacKayMuniMgrs Facebook @NYLInvestments LinkedIn: New York Life Investments LinkedIn: MacKay Municipal Managers Presented by New York Life Investments www.newyorklifeinvestments.com MacKay Municipal Managers is a team of portfolio managers at MacKay Shields. MacKay Shields is 100% owned by NYLIM Holdings, which is wholly owned by New York Life Insurance Company. “New York Life Investments” is both a service mark, and the common trade name, of certain investment advisors affiliated with New York Life Insurance Company . Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

July 31, 20262 min

Post-Fed Muni Valuation Snapshot

Muni valuations held steady post-Fed Follow Us Twitter @NYLInvestments Twitter @MacKayMuniMgrs Facebook @NYLInvestments LinkedIn: New York Life Investments LinkedIn: MacKay Municipal Managers Presented by New York Life Investments www.newyorklifeinvestments.com MacKay Municipal Managers is a team of portfolio managers at MacKay Shields. MacKay Shields is 100% owned by NYLIM Holdings, which is wholly owned by New York Life Insurance Company. “New York Life Investments” is both a service mark, and the common trade name, of certain investment advisors affiliated with New York Life Insurance Company . Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

July 24, 20263 min

Munis Stay Resilient

Record Muni Supply: A Second-Half Outlook Follow Us Twitter @NYLInvestments Twitter @MacKayMuniMgrs Facebook @NYLInvestments LinkedIn: New York Life Investments LinkedIn: MacKay Municipal Managers Presented by New York Life Investments www.newyorklifeinvestments.com MacKay Municipal Managers is a team of portfolio managers at MacKay Shields. MacKay Shields is 100% owned by NYLIM Holdings, which is wholly owned by New York Life Insurance Company. “New York Life Investments” is both a service mark, and the common trade name, of certain investment advisors affiliated with New York Life Insurance Company . Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

July 17, 202620 min

The Market Rewarded Discipline

The first half of 2026 challenged many of the market assumptions investors started the year with. While headlines focused on inflation, interest rates, tariffs, and geopolitical uncertainty, the municipal bond market rewarded discipline instead. In this episode, host Eric Kazatsky is joined by Jack Muller for a midyear review of their 2026 outlook. They revisit the year's key themes, explain why technicals and investor demand have driven performance, and share where they continue to see value across the municipal market. Tune in to hear what worked, where opportunities remain, and what to watch in the second half of 2026. Follow Us Twitter @NYLInvestments Twitter @MacKayMuniMgrs Facebook @NYLInvestments LinkedIn: New York Life Investments LinkedIn: MacKay Municipal Managers Presented by New York Life Investments www.newyorklifeinvestments.com MacKay Municipal Managers is a team of portfolio managers at MacKay Shields. MacKay Shields is 100% owned by NYLIM Holdings, which is wholly owned by New York Life Insurance Company. “New York Life Investments” is both a service mark, and the common trade name, of certain investment advisors affiliated with New York Life Insurance Company. SMRU: 8796551 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

June 26, 20263 min

Munis Stay Resilient

Munis Stay Resilient as July Technicals Appear Supportive Follow Us Twitter @NYLInvestments Twitter @MacKayMuniMgrs Facebook @NYLInvestments LinkedIn: New York Life Investments LinkedIn: MacKay Municipal Managers Presented by New York Life Investments www.newyorklifeinvestments.com MacKay Municipal Managers is a team of portfolio managers at MacKay Shields. MacKay Shields is 100% owned by NYLIM Holdings, which is wholly owned by New York Life Insurance Company. “New York Life Investments” is both a service mark, and the common trade name, of certain investment advisors affiliated with New York Life Insurance Company . Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

June 19, 202627 min

Volatility Has Reset the Opportunity Set

Volatility has been the dominant theme in the municipal market, but it has also created new opportunities for investors. In this month's Muni 360 Market Insights , Eric Kazatsky and Jack Muller discuss how recent rate volatility has led to higher yields across the municipal curve while credit fundamentals remain largely intact. They explore shifting relative value opportunities, the importance of year-round tax management, the impact of increased issuance on market technicals, and what wealth tax and millionaire tax proposals could mean from a municipal credit perspective. Listen as Eric and Jack examine the key factors influencing today's municipal market and discuss where current conditions may be creating opportunities for long-term investors. Follow Us Twitter @NYLInvestments Twitter @MacKayMuniMgrs Facebook @NYLInvestments LinkedIn: New York Life Investments LinkedIn: MacKay Municipal Managers Presented by New York Life Investments www.newyorklifeinvestments.com MacKay Municipal Managers is a team of portfolio managers at MacKay Shields. MacKay Shields is 100% owned by NYLIM Holdings, which is wholly owned by New York Life Insurance Company. “New York Life Investments” is both a service mark, and the common trade name, of certain investment advisors affiliated with New York Life Insurance Company. SMRU: 8796276 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

June 12, 20262 min

Supply Meets Demand

Elevated issuance is still being met with strong investor demand Follow Us Twitter @NYLInvestments Twitter @MacKayMuniMgrs Facebook @NYLInvestments LinkedIn: New York Life Investments LinkedIn: MacKay Municipal Managers Presented by New York Life Investments www.newyorklifeinvestments.com MacKay Municipal Managers is a team of portfolio managers at MacKay Shields. MacKay Shields is 100% owned by NYLIM Holdings, which is wholly owned by New York Life Insurance Company. “New York Life Investments” is both a service mark, and the common trade name, of certain investment advisors affiliated with New York Life Insurance Company . Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.