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News, interviews, and history with newsmakers and environmental advocates, focused on parks and public lands across the American West. Produced by the Center for Western Priorities, formerly known as Go West, Young Podcast.

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November 8, 202651 min

“We’re using our tactical skills”: Veterans organize to fight for public lands

Kate and Lilly talk to two veterans about a new organization entering the fight for public lands—the aptly named Veterans for Public Lands . They are Michael “Chappy” Chappell, a U.S. Navy veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom who directs the Arizona Trail Association ’s Veteran Engagement and Trail Stewardship program and serves as Veterans for Public Lands’ senior advisor for Arizona, and Nick Borrelli, a U.S. Marine Corps veteran, licensed clinical social worker, and surf therapist based in Southern California, who serves as a senior advisor for Veterans for Public Lands in California. Kate and Lilly also discuss the midterm election as well as the permitting bill moving through Congress right now, and what both could mean for public lands. News Jared Huffman announces bid for Natural Resources gavel – Politico Pro Candidates from both parties ran on a pro-public lands message in the 2026 midterms – Westwise Map: The Senate permitting bill would lock in Trump’s assault on public lands – Westwise Resources Get involved with Veterans for Public Lands Connect with Chappy by phone (970-779-5740) or by email (chappy@veteransforpubliclands.org) Learn more about the Arizona Trail Association Learn more about the Jimmy Miller Foundation Watch this episode on YouTube Produced by Aaron Weiss, Lauren Bogard, Kate Groetzinger, and Lilly Bock-Brownstein Feedback: podcast@westernpriorities.org Music: Purple Planet Featured image: Colonel Bob Wilderness, Olympic National Forest; Source: USFS/Flickr The post “We’re using our tactical skills”: Veterans organize to fight for public lands appeared first on Center for Western Priorities .

October 23, 202649 min

From lead paint to DNA tests: surprising discoveries from America’s national parks

In this episode, Kate and Aaron talk to Robert Lull, author of the book Our Natural Lab: Remarkable Stories of Science from America’s National Parks , about the amazing discoveries that have come out of science that took place in our national parks. Kate and Aaron also talk about the negative impacts the Senate permitting bill, also known as the Bipartisan American Affordability and Jobs Act , could have on public lands. News The Senate permitting bill would lock in data centers and nuclear waste on public lands. It only gets worse from there – Westwise Senate permitting bill would cut the public out of public lands and lock in Trump-era data center, nuclear, and fossil fuel approvals – CWP Over 100 Groups Oppose Sweeping Attacks on Public Lands in Permitting Bill – Center for Biological Diversity Resources BLM Data Center Tracker Watch this episode on YouTube Produced by Aaron Weiss, Lauren Bogard, Kate Groetzinger, and Lilly Bock-Brownstein Feedback: podcast@westernpriorities.org Music: Purple Planet Featured image: Grand Prismatic Spring, Yellowstone National Park; Source: Dietmar Rabich/Wikimedia Commons The post From lead paint to DNA tests: surprising discoveries from America’s national parks appeared first on Center for Western Priorities .

October 8, 202644 min

Inside Utah’s bid to become the country’s next nuclear hub

Aaron and Kate talk to Lexi Tuddenham, executive director of HEAL Utah , about Utah’s push to promote nuclear development and how it intersects with public lands. We also cover the Roadless Rule comment period results and a sketchy-sounding proposal to build over 450 nuclear reactors in Utah to power data centers on public lands. News What Americans say about repealing the Roadless Rule – Deseret News A startup wants to build a massive nuclear-powered data center on public land in Utah – NPR Resources CWP Roadless Rule repeal live comment analysis Mapping Utah’s Nuclear Industry – HEAL Utah Watch this episode on YouTube Produced by Aaron Weiss, Lauren Bogard, Kate Groetzinger, and Lilly Bock-Brownstein Feedback: podcast@westernpriorities.org Music: Purple Planet Featured image: West Lake Landfill Superfund Site in Bridgeton, Missouri; Source: @EPAregion7/X.com The post Inside Utah’s bid to become the country’s next nuclear hub appeared first on Center for Western Priorities .

September 21, 202646 min

Why submitting a public comment still matters—and how to write a good one

Kate and Aaron talk to Nick Holshouser, a data analyst with Wandering Nature, LLC, who is analyzing the public comments coming in on the Trump administration’s proposal to repeal the 2001 roadless rule in real-time at roadless.org , and Blaine Miller-McFeeley, a senior legislative representative at Earthjustice, about public comment periods under the Trump administration. We cover why you should still submit public comments (even though the Trump administration probably isn’t interested in your opinion) and how to write a comment that requires an agency response and helps build the legal record against bad agency actions. News Trump is considering more data centers on public lands than previously known – The Washington Sun Forest Service adds comment period for PitCo’s Maroon Bells operations takeover – Aspen Journalism Resources Roadless Rule repeal live comment analysis Submit a comment on the proposed Roadless Rule repeal Watch this episode on YouTube Produced by Aaron Weiss, Lauren Bogard, Kate Groetzinger, and Lilly Bock-Brownstein Feedback: podcast@westernpriorities.org Music: Purple Planet Featured image: Stand of Ponderosa Pines in Grassy Valley by Deer Creek on the Malheur National Forest in North Eastern Oregon; Source: USFS/Flickr The post Why submitting a public comment still matters—and how to write a good one appeared first on Center for Western Priorities .

August 31, 20261 hr 0 min

LIVE from Tucson: Arizona’s Public Lands and the Border Wall

Recorded live at Scoundrel and Scamp Theatre in Tucson as part of CWP’s Keep Parks Public campaign, Aaron interviews four experts about the current state of Arizona’s public lands: Matthew Nelson with the Arizona Trail Association, Russ McSpadden with the Center for Biological Diversity, Emily Burns with Sky Island Alliance, and Amy Juan from the Tohono O’odham Nation. We discuss the impacts of border wall construction on wildlife corridors and Indigenous sites, along with staffing and funding cuts at land management agencies and rollbacks of environmental protections, from Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument and Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge to Quitobaquito Springs. News Death Toll Rises in Grand Canyon Flood as Search Efforts Continue – New York Times Resources Keep Parks Public Tour Arizona Trail Association Center for Biological Diversity Sky Island Alliance Watch this episode on YouTube Produced by Aaron Weiss, Lauren Bogard, Kate Groetzinger, and Lilly Bock-Brownstein Feedback: podcast@westernpriorities.org Music: Purple Planet Featured image: CWP photo The post LIVE from Tucson: Arizona’s Public Lands and the Border Wall appeared first on Center for Western Priorities .

August 27, 202645 min

Introducing: On Common Ground, a new podcast about the fight to maintain our public lands

Kate and Aaron run through the weekly news, including the Trump administration’s plans to repeal the Roadless Rule and upend the Forest Service’s travel management planning process. Then, we play the first episode of On Common Ground: An American Inheritance, a new podcast from Eleven Dollar Bill studios, for you. In this first episode, host Bill Hedden traces how the fight we were allowed to win concealed the one we lost. Bill has spent half a century defending the public lands in southeastern Utah. He is joined by co-host John Leshy, former Solicitor of the Department of the Interior and our foremost scholar of public-lands law and history, along with voices from across the political spectrum. Together, “The Theft” lays out what was taken, how it happened, and why you weren’t supposed to notice until it was too late. News The Forest Service’s own review finds repealing the Roadless Rule could increase wildfire risk and harm communities – Westwise Roadless Rule repeal could cause more wildfires – KHOL ‘One-Two Punch’: After Attacking Roadless Rule, Trump Targets Off-Road Vehicle Limits – Common Dreams Resources Comment on the Roadless Rule repeal – regulations.gov Comment on the Travel Management Rule – regulations.gov Comment generator for Roadless – FUSEE Keep Parks Public Tour — RSVP to Tucson! On Common Ground: An American Inheritance Watch this episode on YouTube Produced by Aaron Weiss, Lauren Bogard, Kate Groetzinger, and Lilly Bock-Brownstein Feedback: podcast@westernpriorities.org Music: Purple Planet Featured image: Book Cliffs, Utah; Photo by Bob Wick The post Introducing: On Common Ground, a new podcast about the fight to maintain our public lands appeared first on Center for Western Priorities .

August 13, 202643 min

Are America’s public lands entering a new Gilded Age?

Kate and Aaron are joined by Professor John Leshy, one of the nation’s top scholars of public lands law, to discuss a new essay of his that argues America’s public lands are entering a new Gilded Age, complete with robber barons, corruption, and deregulation. We also talk about a new exposé revealing Doug Burgum to be a really bad boss who’s breaking the law, and about Border Patrol breaking ground inside Big Bend National Park. News Inside Doug Burgum’s rocky tenure at Interior – POLITICO “Warfare on the People.” Big Bend Residents Fear the Border Wall Will Cut Off Public Lands. – Outside Mapping it out: onX tool connects Montanans to public land comment opportunities – Bozeman Daily Chronicle Resources On Shaky Ground: America’s Public Lands Face an Uncertain Future Keep Parks Public Tour — RSVP to Tucson! On Common Ground: An American Inheritance Watch this episode on YouTube Produced by Aaron Weiss, Lauren Bogard, Kate Groetzinger, and Lilly Bock-Brownstein Feedback: podcast@westernpriorities.org Music: Purple Planet Featured image: Basin and Range National Monument; Source: BLM Photo Bob Wick The post Are America’s public lands entering a new Gilded Age? appeared first on Center for Western Priorities .

August 6, 202656 min

LIVE from Santa Fe: Defending New Mexico’s public lands

Recorded live at Nuckolls Brewing in Santa Fe as part of CWP’s Keep Parks Public campaign , Kate interviews four experts about the current stakes for New Mexico’s public lands. Charlotte Overby (Conservation Lands Foundation), Keegan King (Native Land Institute), Andrew Black (National Wildlife Federation/Earthkeepers 360), and Elaine Leslie (Coalition to Protect America’s National Parks) discuss the importance of defending New Mexico’s land, water, and wildlife from the current threats coming out of the Trump administration. Thank you to Nuckolls Brewing, REI Santa Fe, and New Mexico Wild for joining us at this event! Come see us at our next live show in Tucson! News Tribes decry two-week comment period tied to BLM proposal to strip Chaco protections — Santa Fe New Mexican Before-And-After Maps Show How Trump Is Slashing Utah National Monuments — Newsweek Interior Department Planning More Changes To National Park Service Staffing — Coalition to Protect America’s National Parks Lujan Grisham, Stansbury support 10,000-acre Sandia land transfer as Heinrich, NMWF oppose — Rio Rancho Observer Resources Keep Parks Public Tour — RSVP to Tucson! REI Cooperative Action Fund New Mexico Wild Conservation Lands Foundation Native Land Institute National Wildlife Federation Earth Keepers 360 Coalition to Protect America’s National Parks Center for Western Priorities Road to 30 Postcard: Caja Del Rio W atch this episode on YouTube Produced by Aaron Weiss, Lauren Bogard, Kate Groetzinger, and Lilly Bock-Brownstein Feedback: podcast@westernpriorities.org Music: Purple Planet Featured image: CWP photo The post LIVE from Santa Fe: Defending New Mexico’s public lands appeared first on Center for Western Priorities .

July 29, 202643 min

Wild women with author Heather Hansman

Kate and Aaron talk to Heather Hansman about her new book, Fierce Country: The Untold Story of Three Women Who Ignited America’s Love for the Wild . Plus, mining companies are staking an unprecedented number of claims in New Mexico. And we’re going on tour ! Come see us in Santa Fe and Tucson. News By the #s: More mining claims filed in New Mexico in last 4 years than previous century – Source NM Resources Keep Parks Public Tour — RSVP to Santa Fe and Tucson! Buy Fierce Country W atch this episode on YouTube Produced by Aaron Weiss, Lauren Bogard, Kate Groetzinger, and Lilly Bock-Brownstein Feedback: podcast@westernpriorities.org Music: Purple Planet Featured image: CWP photo The post Wild women with author Heather Hansman appeared first on Center for Western Priorities .

July 16, 202649 min

Who is Doug Burgum, really?

Forum of Fargo-Moorhead columnist Mike McFeely joins Aaron and Kate to trace Doug Burgum’s path from software tycoon to “opportunist” politician. McFeely outlines how Burgum abandoned his once-moderate image to become a die-hard Trump loyalist as Interior Secretary, all while chasing his future political ambitions and defending indefensible policies. In the news: On Monday, Trump slashed Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante by about 90% each (3 million acres total). SUWA’s Scott Braden joins the pod to explain the unlawful basis for the cuts, the elimination of the Bears Ears Commission, Tribal exclusion, and plans to challenge the reductions in court. News Day of Action on Monday, July 20th Trump Sharply Cuts the Size of Two National Monuments in Utah — New York Times How President Trump and Utah leaders lied and misled on Bears Ears and Grand Staircase — Center for Western Priorities McFeely: Doug Burgum’s very bad day — Forum of Fargo-Moorhead Resources Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance (SUWA) Mike McFeely’s column in Forum of Fargo-Moorhead Watch this episode on YouTube Produced by Aaron Weiss, Lauren Bogard, Kate Groetzinger, and Lilly Bock-Brownstein Feedback: podcast@westernpriorities.org Music: Purple Planet Featured image: Burgum hearing ENR Apr 29 The post Who is Doug Burgum, really? appeared first on Center for Western Priorities .