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Entrepreneur, mother, and cofounder of Mamava—the inventor of the freestanding lactation pod—Sascha Mayer introduces her newest baby: The Bodacious Optimist, a podcast dedicated to celebrating and learning from the people who have inspired and supported her entrepreneurial journey. They are designers and storytellers, business leaders and activists who have challenged the status quo and thrived. Bodacious Optimists believe that there are always solutions waiting to be unveiled.

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September 17, 2025Episode 2529 min

Noah Miller on Corporate ESG + Improving Breastfeeding Infrastructure

In this episode of the Bodacious Optimist podcast, host Sascha Mayer talks with Noah Miller, a leader in Environmental and Social Governance (ESG). The discussion delves deep into the definition and importance of ESG pillars: environmental stewardship, social impact, and governance. Noah recounts his unique career path, including his time as a professional athlete and Israeli army commander, and how these experiences shape his ESG work. Highlighting the significance of gender equity and UN Sustainable Development Goals, the conversation also explores the complexities and rewards of implementing ESG initiatives within organizations. Noah expresses his belief in the importance of empathy, collective action, and the realization that we are capable of solving the biggest challenges through collaborative efforts. The episode concludes with Noah discussing his proudest personal achievements and sharing his audacious optimism about the future. 00:00 Introduction to Noah Miller and ESG 02:27 Understanding ESG: Environmental, Social, and Governance 04:02 Mamava's ESG Journey and Practices 05:02 Noah's Role as a Fractional ESG Director 06:33 UN Sustainable Development Goals and Gender Equity 11:49 Noah's Unique Career Path: From Athlete to ESG Leader 20:16 Challenges and Opportunities in ESG 21:33 The Impact of Fatherhood on Noah's Work 27:21 Final Thoughts and Reflections Mentioned in this episode: University of Vermont’s Sustainable Innovation MBA Rho Impact Vermont Businesses For Social Responsibility (VBSR) United Nations Sustainable Development Goals EcoVadis JUST Capital National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA)

August 13, 2025Episode 2438 min

Dr. Lisa Stellwagen on Breastfeeding + Human Milk Banking

In this episode of the Bodacious Optimist podcast, Sascha interviews Dr. Lisa Stellwagen, a pediatrician and leading advocate for breastfeeding and milk banking. Dr. Stellwagen, who played a key role in establishing UC San Diego's baby-friendly hospital designation and cofounded the UC Health Milk Bank, discusses the importance of milk banks in providing donor breast milk for fragile and premature babies. She explains the historical context, safety protocols, and the life-saving benefits of donor milk compared to formula, particularly in preventing necrotizing enterocolitis (NEC). The conversation also covers the donor screening process, legislative efforts, and the cultural significance of milk donation. Dr. Stellwagen shares her personal journey and the broader impact of breastfeeding advocacy. 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Lisa Stellwagen 02:04 The Basics of Milk Banking 03:22 The Importance of Donor Milk for Premature Babies 08:05 The Process of Donating Milk 19:31 Challenges and Awareness in Milk Banking 24:21 Dr. Stellwagen's Journey and Advocacy 31:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Mentioned in this episode: Human Milk Banking Association of North America (HMBANA) UC Health Milk Bank UC San Diego Health, Baby-Friendly designation

July 23, 2025Episode 2331 min

Health Economist Tricia Johnson on the ROI of Breast Milk

In this episode of the Bodacious Optimist podcast, the host interviews Tricia Johnson, a professor at Rush University's Department of Health Systems Management. As a human milk economist, Tricia discusses her work in understanding the economic drivers of healthcare spending, particularly focusing on the cost-effectiveness of feeding mother's own milk (MOM) to premature infants. Tricia shares her journey into this niche field, her collaborations with other researchers, and the significant health and economic benefits of MOM for preterm infants in the NICU. The conversation touches upon the disparities in breastfeeding among different racial and socio-economic groups and the impact of policies and interventions like the "ReDiMOM" trial, which aims to reduce these discrepancies. Tricia also emphasizes the importance of long-term economic evaluations, discussing the broader implications of her work, including policy development and healthcare strategies. Finally, she reflects on the challenges and opportunities of balancing her professional research with her personal life as a parent. 00:00 Introduction to Human Milk Economics 03:28 Tricia Johnson's Journey into Human Milk Economics 05:35 Economic Impact of Preterm Births and Human Milk 07:34 Research on Breastfeeding and Health Outcomes 10:27 Addressing Racial Disparities in Breastfeeding 14:28 The "ReDiMOM" Trial: Reducing Disparities 16:15 Economic Theories and Cash Transfers in Breastfeeding 20:53 Challenges and Solutions in Breastfeeding Support 25:32 Personal Insights and Optimism 29:03 Conclusion and Future Aspirations Mentioned in this episode: RUSH University Department of Health Systems Management Research Human Milk Institute National Institutes of Health Rush Mothers' Milk Club "ReDiMOM" Cohort Study "LOVEMOM" Cohort

June 11, 2025Episode 2227 min

Artist Corinne Botz Makes Space for the Invisible Labor of Lactation

In this episode of the Bodacious Optimist podcast, host Sascha Mayer interviews Corinne Botz, a visual artist and educator whose multidisciplinary work spans photography, writing, and filmmaking. The conversation centers around Botz’s project, “Milk Factory,” which includes a short film and a book about lactation rooms. Botz shares how the origins of the project were inspired by her personal experience as a new mother in a stark lactation room, and her subsequent effort to document public lactation spaces. The film gained attention when it was featured by Time Magazine , juxtaposed against the backdrop of the January 6th Capitol Riot. For Botz, this project has fostered a sense of community among mothers and increased her dedication to normalizing discussions around pumping and improving maternal support systems. 00:00 Introduction to Corinne Botz 02:48 The Milk Factory Project 04:25 Symbolism and Impact of the Congressional Lactation Room 06:08 Publishing with Time Magazine 08:30 The Upcoming Book on Lactation Spaces 10:39 Exploring Unique Lactation Spaces 12:45 The Nutshell Studies and Artistic Themes 14:25 Personal Background and Artistic Journey 17:21 Motherhood and Artistic Influence 21:38 Final Thoughts and Optimism Mentioned in this episode: Milk Factory by Corinne May Botz, a forthcoming hard cover book Milk Factory Photography Series Time Magazine - The Invisible Labor Inside America’s Lactation Rooms Chauntel Norris, Alabama Prison Birth Project The Milk Bank The Nutshell Studies of Unexplained Death

March 4, 2025Episode 2136 min

Dr. Lars Bode on Human Milk Research, Maternal Health + Breastfeeding Support

In this episode of The Bodacious Optimist podcast, Sascha Mayer interviews Dr. Lars Bode, a renowned expert in breast milk research and the founding director of the Human Milk Institute at the University of California, San Diego. Dr. Bode discusses the multifaceted benefits of breast milk for both infants and mothers, including its nutritional and protective qualities. He delves into the specific role of human milk oligosaccharides (HMOs) in shaping infant gut microbiomes and their potential applications in treating various diseases. Dr. Bode also highlights the mission of the Human Milk Institute and its focus on translating molecular discoveries into public health impacts. He shares his personal journey from Germany to becoming a leading scientist in the US and offers insights into the social and cultural dimensions of breastfeeding. The episode concludes with a preview of the Human Milk Institute's annual symposium and the collaborative efforts to advance the field of human milk research. 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Lars Bode and Human Milk Research 01:47 Foundational Benefits of Breast Milk 05:43 Human Milk Oligosaccharides (HMOs) Explained 10:29 The Human Milk Institute: Mission and Impact 16:27 Innovative Applications Beyond Infant Health 18:29 Dr. Bode's Personal Journey and Career Path 22:17 Challenges and Support in Breastfeeding 27:32 Human Milk Institute Symposium and Future Outlook 29:27 Parenthood and Professional Insights 35:12 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Mentioned in this episode: Human Milk Institute Human Milk Institute Symposium University of California, San Diego The Lancet Breastfeeding Series (2016) The Family Larsson-Rosenquist Foundation National Institute of Child Health and Human Development

February 5, 2025Episode 2047 min

Medela's Angela Lang on Lactation Innovation + Breastfeeding Advocacy

Join Dr. Angela Lang as she shares her expertise and personal journey in the field of lactation and breastfeeding support. Dr. Lang, who began her career as a systems engineer before transitioning to nursing, discusses the importance of evidence-based care and the challenges she faced as a new mother. She emphasizes the role of Medela in advancing breastfeeding technology, including the significance of the early pump-in-style models and the latest innovations like colostrum collectors. The episode delves into detailed lactation practices, the physiological benefits of breastfeeding for both baby and mother, and the cultural shifts (and infrastructure) needed to better support breastfeeding journeys. Dr. Lang also highlights the importance of accessible education for healthcare providers to ensure mothers receive the support they need from the hospital to their homes. 00:00 Introduction and Excitement 02:47 Medela's Mission and Lactation Journey 03:26 Personal Story: From Engineer to Lactation Consultant 04:16 Challenges and Changes in Breastfeeding 05:50 Evolution of Breast Pumps 07:15 Medela's Role in Supporting Working Moms 08:25 Clinical Research and Breast Pump Technology 11:31 Pumping vs. Breastfeeding 12:21 Importance of Colostrum 22:53 Supporting Breastfeeding in Hospitals 42:07 Community and Cultural Support for Breastfeeding 46:38 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Mentioned in this episode: Medela Milk Stork Human Milk Institute

January 8, 2025Episode 1941 min

Adeline Druart, CEO of Lawson's Finest Liquids, on Crafting Beer + Socially Responsible Businesses

In this episode, Sascha Mayer interviews Adeline Druart, CEO of Lawson's Finest Liquids. Adeline shares her journey from studying cheesemaking in France to leading Vermont Creamery— and eventually becoming CEO of one of the premier craft breweries in the U.S. She discusses her passion for sustainable food, the importance of quality, and the challenges and opportunities she faced during her career transitions. Adeline also touches on the significance of B Corp certification, gender diversity in the beer industry, and her role as a working mother. She highlights the importance of community impact, personal growth, and nurturing the next generation. 00:00 Introduction and Warm Welcome 01:52 Journey to Vermont: From France to Cheese Making 05:03 Starting at Vermont Creamery 07:16 Rising to Leadership and Business Growth 13:07 Transition to Lawson's Finest Liquids 13:51 Challenges and Successes as CEO 16:47 Lawson's Finest Liquids: Community and Impact 20:04 Women in the Beer Industry 33:03 Balancing Motherhood and Leadership 39:00 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Mentioned in this episode: Lawson’s Finest Liquids Vermont Creamery Land O'Lakes Vermont Businesses for Social Responsibility (VBSR)

December 11, 2024Episode 1834 min

CEO Kate Williams on 1% for the Planet + Business as a Force for Good

Kate Williams, CEO of 1% for the Planet, joins the Bodacious Optimist podcast to discuss the global movement where businesses commit 1% of their annual sales to support environmental causes. Kate explains the origins of the organization, founded in 2002 by Patagonia’s Yvon Chouinard and Craig Matthews, and its evolution over two decades. She details the role of 1% for the Planet in advising, certifying, and amplifying member contributions across diverse industries and global regions. Kate shares insights into the value of strategic giving, facilitated through their vetting process of environmental partners and highlights the organization’s impact on community building and employee engagement. Additionally, Kate delves into personal reflections on balancing motherhood with her career and the significance of creativity and optimism in tackling environmental challenges. She also shares unique examples of member companies and environmental partners, including the inspiring Thin Green Line Foundation. 00:00 Introduction to Kate Williams and 1% for the Planet 02:34 Founding and Mission of 1% for the Planet 03:27 How 1% for the Planet Operates 05:50 Global Reach and Impact Areas 06:55 Diverse Membership and Industry Representation 08:26 Employee Engagement and Community Building 09:28 Unexpected Members and Impact Stories 19:28 Vermont Roots and Organizational Growth 21:25 Personal Journey and Leadership Insights 24:01 Parenting, Work-Life Balance, and Advice 32:44 Conclusion and How to Get Involved Mentioned in the episode: 1% for the Planet Patagonia The Thin Green Line Foundation

November 20, 2024Episode 1739 min

Michelle Millar Fisher + Amber Winick on Designing Motherhood

In this episode of The Bodacious Optimist podcast, Sascha interviews Michelle Millar Fisher and Amber Winick, the visionaries behind Designing Motherhood. This multifaceted project examines how design influences reproduction and parenthood through a book and a series of exhibitions. Michelle and Amber share their journey from their initial meeting in New York to their work's growing impact, including partnerships with organizations like the Pew Foundation and the Maternity Care Coalition. They also discuss the implications of their work on maternal health and the care economy, reflecting on the importance of design as a mode of inquiry and community building. 00:00 Introduction to Designing Motherhood 01:15 Meet Michelle and Amber 02:42 The Origin of Designing Motherhood 06:41 Challenges and Triumphs in Publishing 08:49 The Exhibition Journey 13:43 Research and Social Media Impact 18:49 Localization and Global Impact 22:50 Partnerships and Community Impact 30:12 Reflections and Advice 37:04 Future of Designing Motherhood Mentioned in this episode: Designing Motherhood by Michelle Millar Fisher and Amber Winick The Museum of Modern Art The Pew Charitable Trusts Maternity Care Coalition Houston Center for Contemporary Craft

October 30, 2024Episode 1637 min

U.S. Representative Becca Balint on Gender, Politics, + Maternal Health

In this episode of the Bodacious Optimist podcast, Sascha Mayer interviews Representative Becca Balint of Vermont, the first woman and openly LGBTQ+ person to represent the state in Congress. Balint discusses her journey from being a middle school teacher to a congresswoman, her experience in Vermont and on Capitol Hill, and her priorities including maternal health and reproductive rights. She highlights the significance of organizations like Emerge Vermont in training women for political roles and shares personal stories about balancing family life with public service. They also discuss the challenges of the current Congress, the importance of authenticity in politics, and ongoing legislative efforts such as the Momnibus Act. Balint emphasizes the need for systemic change and maintaining optimism in the human spirit. 00:00 Introduction to Representative Becca Balint 02:20 Early Career and Vermont Representation 02:52 Challenges and Priorities in Vermont 06:41 Reproductive Rights and Legislative Efforts 09:05 Empowering Women in Politics 12:03 Personal Insights and Authenticity 17:11 Maternal Health and Legislative Challenges 22:59 Balancing Family and Public Service 33:06 Optimism and Future Goals Mentioned in the episode: Emerge Vermont The Momnibus Act Amanda Ripley author of High Conflict Donna Hicks author of Dignity and Leading with Dignity