Liz Ortenburger asks "What If We’re Fighting Domestic Violence All Wrong?"
Send us Fan Mail “Just Leave? Yeah… It’s Not That Simple.” In this final episode of Season 12, our guest Liz Ortenburger joins us from Las Vegas to share all she knows! Liz has spent years working in the fight against domestic violence—and she’s not afraid to question the system we’ve built around it. Former CEO of the Girl Scouts of Nevada and now CEO of Safe Nest, Liz joins Sirens, Slammers and Service for a conversation that gets uncomfortable fast . We dig into what happens when the criminal justice system becomes the default answer, why survivors can’t simply “just leave,” the hidden power of economic abuse, coercive control, digital surveillance, and why true prevention may need to start long before someone ever calls 911. And for first responders? There’s a hard truth about the emotional toll of responding to the same calls over and over—and what you can actually do when you feel like you can’t fix the situation. This conversation challenges assumptions, calls out gaps, and gets real about what needs to change. Because if what we’ve been doing isn’t working… maybe it’s time to ask some uncomfortable questions. Learn More: https://safenest.org IG: @safenestlv Blue Line Fitness Testing is a premier law enforcement fitness testing and training center based in Edmonton. Specializing in helping individuals prepare for the physical demands of a career in law enforcement, we offer comprehensive fitness evaluations, specialized training programs, and classes tailored to meet the unique needs of our clients. Support the show Want to support this podcast even more! Make a monthly subscription for only $3 a month here! Interested in becoming a first responder? Reach out to learn more! Email - info@bluelinefitnesstesting.com Blue Line Fitness Testing Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/bluelinefitnesstesting Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/bluelinefitnesstesting/ LinkedIn - Nikki Cloutier


