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August 19, 2026Episode 7231 min
Pulling Pranks with Roman Arutyunov
In this episode of CYBR.SEC.CAST , Michael and Sam sit down with Roman Arutyunov, Co-Founder and Chief Product Officer at Xage, to explore how cybersecurity must evolve in the age of agentic AI. Roman shares his journey from early cybersecurity work to protecting critical infrastructure and explains why Zero Trust is more important than ever as AI agents gain greater access to systems, data, and critical resources. Roman also covers practical ways organizations can implement Zero Trust without creating a complex patchwork of security tools - and why protecting interactions at every layer is becoming essential. This episode is sponsored by Xage Things Mentioned: Xage - https://xage.com/ Mirai Virus - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirai_(malware) Agentic AI Is Pushing Zero Trust Into Its Next Phase - https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/agentic-ai-is-pushing-zero-trust-into-its-next-phase/ Do you have a question for the hosts? Reach out to us at media@cscgroupllc.com In this episode: Host: Michael Farnum Host: Sam Van Ryder Guest: Roman Arutyunov Director: Bill Brenner Producer: Lauren Andrus Music by: August Honey Keep up with our Conferences and Events: LinkedIn X Facebook Instagram TikTok CYBR.SEC.CON. OT.SEC.CON. CYBR.HAK.CON. Keep up with CYBR.SEC.Media: LinkedIn X Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTube Learn About CYBR.SEC.Careers Non-Profit Efforts CYBR.SEC.Careers Subscribe to the podcast: Apple Spotify YouTube Listen to our other shows: CYBR.HAK.CAST CYBR.Minded CYBR.Signal Thank you to our Media Partners: CYBR.SEC.CON. Breaking Through in Cybersecurity Marketing CYBR.SEC.CON. and OT.SEC.CON. OGGN (Oil & Gas Global Network) UtilSec Packet Pushers CYBR.SEC.CON. and CYBR.HAK.CON. BarCode Podcast Cyber Distortion Podcast Kill Chain Radio The Phillip Wylie Show Vulnerable U
August 5, 2026Episode 7137 min
Emotional Support Co-Hosts with Jennifer (JJ) Jabbusch and Drew Conry-Murray
In this episode of CYBR.SEC.CAST, Michael and Sam join forces with Drew Conry-Murray and Jennifer “JJ” Jabbusch, hosts of the Packet Protector podcast on the Packet Pushers Network. The conversation explores Drew and JJ’s journeys into networking, cybersecurity, and technology media, as well as the origin of the Packet Protector podcast and its mission to make security knowledge more accessible to networking and IT professionals. The group also discusses the importance of community-driven education, collaboration between security and infrastructure teams, supporting the next generation of practitioners, and creating opportunities for professionals to learn and connect. Things Mentioned: VAX - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAX Packet Pushers - https://packetpushers.net Packet Protectors - https://packetpushers.net/podcast/packet-protector/ JJ’s HOU.SEC.CON. Keynote - https://youtu.be/7mrDeBWdQoI YOUTH.SEC.CON. - https://www.cybrseccareers.org/youth-sec-con Packet Protector Slack Channel - https://packetpushers.net/community/ JJ’s CYBR.SEC.CON. Talk, “Wi-Fi 7 Is Not Just Another Upgrade: What Security Teams Need to Know Before You Deploy” will take place on September 16, 2026, at 10:00am in room 360 Do you have a question for the hosts? Reach out to us at media@cscgroupllc.com In this episode: Host: Michael Farnum Host: Sam Van Ryder Guest: Jennifer (JJ) Jabusch Guest: Drew Conry-Murray Director: Bill Brenner Producer: Lauren Andrus Music by: August Honey Keep up with our Conferences and Events: LinkedIn X Facebook Instagram TikTok CYBR.SEC.CON. OT.SEC.CON. CYBR.HAK.CON. Keep up with CYBR.SEC.Media: LinkedIn X Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTube Learn About CYBR.SEC.Careers Non-Profit Efforts CYBR.SEC.Careers Subscribe to the podcast: Apple Spotify YouTube Listen to our other shows: CYBR.HAK.CAST CYBR.Minded CYBR.Signal Thank you to our Media Partners: CYBR.SEC.CON. Breaking Through in Cybersecurity Marketing CYBR.SEC.CON. and OT.SEC.CON. OGGN (Oil & Gas Global Network) UtilSec Packet Pushers CYBR.SEC.CON. and CYBR.HAK.CON. BarCode Podcast Cyber Distortion Podcast Kill Chain Radio The Phillip Wylie Show Vulnerable U
July 21, 2026Episode 7031 min
Fighting the Good Fight with Deidre Diamond
In this episode of CYBR.SEC.CAST, hosts Michael and Sam speak with Deidre Diamond, founder and CEO of CyberSN, about the challenges facing today’s cybersecurity job market. Diamond explains how vague job descriptions, inefficient hiring processes, and poor matching systems contribute to long hiring cycles, workforce shortages, and burnout. She also discusses CyberSN’s cybersecurity job taxonomy, the importance of treating job descriptions as living workforce-planning tools, and the need for organizations to improve how they hire, develop, and retain cybersecurity professionals. Things Mentioned: CyberSN - https://cybersn.com Do you have a question for the hosts? Reach out to us at media@cscgroupllc.com In this episode: Host: Michael Farnum Host: Sam Van Ryder Guest: Deidre Diamond Director: Bill Brenner Producer: Lauren Andrus Music by: August Honey Keep up with our Conferences and Events: LinkedIn X Facebook Instagram TikTok CYBR.SEC.CON. OT.SEC.CON. CYBR.HAK.CON. Keep up with CYBR.SEC.Media: LinkedIn X Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTube Learn About CYBR.SEC.Careers Non-Profit Efforts CYBR.SEC.Careers Subscribe to the podcast: Apple Spotify YouTube Listen to our other shows: CYBR.HAK.CAST CYBR.Minded CYBR.Signal Thank you to our Media Partners: CYBR.SEC.CON. and OT.SEC.CON. OGGN (Oil & Gas Global Network) UtilSec Packet Pushers CYBR.SEC.CON. and CYBR.HAK.CON. BarCode Podcast Cyber Distortion Podcast Kill Chain Radio The Phillip Wylie Show Vulnerable U
July 8, 2026Episode 6832 min
30 Years of Raising Awareness with Chris Wysopal
In this episode Michael and Sam sit down with cybersecurity legend Chris Wysopal, Veracode co-founder and Chief Security Evangelist, to discuss the evolution of software security, and why awareness alone is not enough to solve today’s cybersecurity challenges. Chris shares his perspective on secure software, vendor accountability, liability, and the role government may need to play in protecting critical infrastructure. The conversation offers a thoughtful look at where cybersecurity has been, where it still falls short, and what meaningful progress could look like. Things Mentioned: L0pht - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L0pht Cult of the Dead Cow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Dead_Cow Hacker BBS’s - https://computerhackerscourse.nd.edu/course-calendar/bbs-early-hacker-social-networks/ ShinyHunter Article – https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/shinyhunters-charter-breach-exposes-the-identity-to-saas-gap/ Secure Resilient Future Foundation - https://secure-resilient.org CYBR.SEC.CON. Agenda - https://www.xcdsystem.com/cybrseccommunity/program/Wh1YEUW/index.cfm?pgid=760 CYBR.SEC.CON. Tickets - https://www.xcdsystem.com/cybrseccommunity/attendee/index.cfm?ID=iV8mb8T Crew Member Application - https://www.cybrseccon.com/jointhecrew CYBR.SEC.CON. Sponsorship - https://www.xcdsystem.com/cybrseccommunity/exhibitor/index.cfm?ID=7nYn7df Do you have a question for the hosts? Reach out to us at media@cscgroupllc.com In this episode: Host: Michael Farnum Host: Sam Van Ryder Guest: Chris Wysopal Director: Bill Brenner Producer: Lauren Andrus Music by: August Honey Keep up with our Conferences and Events: LinkedIn X Facebook Instagram TikTok CYBR.SEC.CON. OT.SEC.CON. CYBR.HAK.CON. Keep up with CYBR.SEC.Media: LinkedIn X Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTube Learn About CYBR.SEC.Careers Non-Profit Efforts CYBR.SEC.Careers Subscribe to the podcast: Apple Spotify Listen to our other shows: CYBR.HAK.CAST CYBR.Minded CYBR.Signal Thank you to our Media Partners: CYBR.SEC.CON. and OT.SEC.CON. OGGN (Oil & Gas Global Network) UtilSec Packet Pushers CYBR.SEC.CON. and CYBR.HAK.CON. BarCode Podcast Cyber Distortion Podcast Kill Chain Radio The Phillip Wylie Show Vulnerable U
June 24, 2026Episode 6729 min
Why Usage Intelligence is the Missing Layers in Enterprise AI Security with Harmonic Security CEO Alastair Paterson
In this episode of CYBR.SEC.CAST, hosts Michael and Sam sit down with Alastair Patterson, CEO of Harmonic Security, to discuss the rapid evolution of AI in the enterprise. They explore the shift from chatbots to autonomous agents, the challenges CISOs face in governing AI adoption, and how security teams can enable innovation without becoming blockers. Alastair also shares his founder journey, lessons from Digital Shadows, and how Harmonic is helping organizations gain visibility and control over AI usage. Sponsored by Harmonic Security Things Mentioned: Harmonic Security – https://www.harmonic.security CYBR.SEC.CON. Tickets - https://www.xcdsystem.com/cybrseccommunity/attendee/index.cfm?ID=iV8mb8T Crew Member Application - https://www.cybrseccon.com/jointhecrew CYBR.SEC.CON. Speakers (Partial List) - https://www.xcdsystem.com/cybrseccommunity/program/Wh1YEUW/index.cfm?pgid=761 CYBR.SEC.CON. Lightning Talk CFP - https://www.cybrseccon.com/callforpapers CYBR.SEC.CON. Sponsorship - https://www.xcdsystem.com/cybrseccommunity/exhibitor/index.cfm?ID=7nYn7df Do you have a question for the hosts? Reach out to us at media@cscgroupllc.com In this episode: Host: Michael Farnum Host: Sam Van Ryder Guest: Alastair Paterson Producer: Bill Brenner Music by: August Honey Keep up with our Conferences and Events: LinkedIn X Facebook Instagram TikTok CYBR.SEC.CON. OT.SEC.CON. CYBR.HAK.CON. Keep up with CYBR.SEC.Media: LinkedIn X Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTube Support CYBR.SEC.Careers Non-Profit Efforts CYBR.SEC.Careers Subscribe to the podcast: Apple Spotify Listen to our other shows: CYBR.HAK.CAST CYBR.Minded Thank you to our Media Partners: CYBR.SEC.CON. and OT.SEC.CON. OGGN (Oil & Gas Global Network) UtilSec Packet Pushers CYBR.SEC.CON. and CYBR.HAK.CON. BarCode Podcast Cyber Distortion Podcast Kill Chain Radio The Phillip Wylie Show Vulnerable U
June 8, 2026Episode 6937 min
CYBR.SEC.CAST Episode 69: Crush Security
In Episode 69 of CYBR.SEC.CAST, hosts Michael Farnum and Sam Van Ryder sit down with Crush Security CEO Joshua Jones , CTO Josh Johnson , and JB Poindexter & Co. CISO John Barrow to explore a growing problem facing security leaders: the inability to effectively evaluate, compare, and manage cybersecurity products at scale. SHOW NOTES: Things Mentioned: Crush Security website: https://www.crushsecurity.com/ Upcoming CYBR.SEC.Community events: https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/conference/ CYBR.SEC.Careers: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cybr-sec-careers/about/ fundraisers: Cards for a Cause: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/cybr-sec-careers_cybrseccareers-nonprofit-cybersecurity-activity-7436794892787359744-v4Cz Proceeds support CYBR.SEC.Careers mission is to build a strong, diverse workforce by providing career exposure, access to education and certifications, and mentorship for students and veterans pursuing careers in cybersecurity. EPISODE 69 Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction and Sponsor Disclosure Michael Farnum introduces Crush Security as the episode sponsor and frames the discussion around real-world CISO challenges involving cybersecurity purchasing and vendor management. 05:00 – Joshua Jones' Cybersecurity Journey Jones recounts entering cybersecurity during the early days of MFA, building global sales and consulting organizations, and eventually identifying inefficiencies in the reseller ecosystem that inspired Crush Security. 09:15 – Josh Johnson's Path from Digital Forensics to AI Johnson discusses his background in computer forensics, incident response, consulting, and cybersecurity leadership before co-founding Crush Security. 11:45 – John Barrow's Evolution from Military Intelligence to CISO Barrow explains how his nontraditional background became a leadership advantage, helping him bridge communication gaps between security teams and executive leadership. 17:00 – The Hidden Cost of Security Tool Sprawl The group examines how organizations accumulate overlapping technologies, duplicate capabilities, and unnecessary spending while struggling to understand what they actually own. 21:30 – Why Traditional VAR Models Fall Short Jones argues that too many reseller relationships remain transactional and fail to provide the strategic guidance security leaders need. 24:30 – Using AI to Evaluate Security Products Johnson explains how Crush maps cybersecurity products, controls, compliance frameworks, and capabilities to help organizations identify gaps, overlaps, and alternatives. 29:00 – The Coming Explosion of Security Categories The panel discusses how AI is enabling vendors to rapidly expand into adjacent markets, creating even more confusion for buyers evaluating security platforms. 33:30 – Crush Security's Vision for a 'Super VAR' Jones outlines the company's vision of combining AI, security architecture, contract intelligence, and procurement guidance into a unified platform for security leaders. 35:20 – Final Thoughts The panel closes by reflecting on why cybersecurity procurement remains largely unsolved and why data-driven decision making may finally change that reality. Do you have a question for the hosts? Reach out to us at media@cscgroupllc.com Keep up with CYBR.SEC.CON.: LinkedIn X Facebook Instagram Keep up with CYBR.SEC.Media: LinkedIn X Facebook Instagram Check out our Conferences and Events: CYBR.SEC.CON. OT.SEC.CON. CYBR.HAK.CON. EXEC.SEC.CON. CSC User Group Support or apply to our Scholarship Program: TAB Cyber Foundation Subscribe to the podcast: Apple Spotify In this episode: Host: Michael Farnum Host: Sam Van Ryder Guests: Josh Jones , Josh Johnson , John Barrow Production and editing: Bill Brenner Music by: August Honey
April 7, 2026Episode 6626 min
CYBR.SEC.CAST Episode 66: Wendy Nather
Cybersecurity has built its learning model around breaches, but as Wendy Nather explains, the real value lies in the incidents that almost happened. In this CYBR.SEC.CAST episode with hosts Michael Farnum and Sam Van Ryder , she makes the case for shifting focus to near-misses: the attacks stopped by a single decision, control, or moment of awareness. These unseen saves reveal how defenses actually work in real time, yet they rarely get shared due to trust, legal, and cultural barriers. Until the industry starts capturing and learning from these quieter wins, it will continue optimizing for failure instead of understanding success. SHOW NOTES: Things Mentioned: The Security Poverty Line: https://www.scrut.io/post/risk-grustlers-ep-20-the-security-poverty-line 1Password talks and expo activity during RSAC 2026: https://1password.com/blog/rsa-2026-leading-the-way-to-secure-agentic-ai Upcoming CYBR.SEC.Community events: https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/conference/ CYBR.SEC.Careers: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cybr-sec-careers/about/ fundraisers: Cards for a Cause: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/cybr-sec-careers_cybrseccareers-nonprofit-cybersecurity-activity-7436794892787359744-v4Cz CYBR CLAY SHOOT: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/cybr-sec-careers_cybrclayshoot-cybersecurity-cybercareers-activity-7435353518951084033-1iw9 Proceeds support CYBR.SEC.Careers mission is to build a strong, diverse workforce by providing career exposure, access to education and certifications, and mentorship for students and veterans pursuing careers in cybersecurity. EPISODE 66 Timestamps: 00:00 – 01:30 – Intro, guest setup, and Wendy Nather background 01:30 – 07:00 – CyberSecCon announcements and community initiatives 07:00 – 09:30 – Wendy’s early career: liberal arts → sysadmin → Switzerland 09:30 – 12:30 – Transition into cybersecurity and global security leadership 12:30 – 15:30 – Analyst career, Duo Security, Cisco, and 1Password 15:30 – 18:30 – Career philosophy: ditching the ladder, focusing on impact 18:30 – 22:00 – Current role: advising, speaking, training, and strategy work 22:00 – 25:30 – RSA talk intro: “Less Blood, More Bits” concept 25:30 – 31:00 – The power of near-miss stories and why they matter 31:00 – 36:00 – Real-world near-miss examples and lessons learned 36:00 – 41:00 – Threat intelligence sharing challenges and trust barriers 41:00 – 45:00 – ISACs vs. informal “steak and ale” intelligence sharing 45:00 – 49:00 – Why scaling trust and sharing remains unsolved 49:00 – End – Wrap-up and closing thoughts Do you have a question for the hosts? Reach out to us at media@cscgroupllc.com
March 24, 2026Episode 6531 min
ICIT’s Val Moon: Fixing Cybersecurity’s Workforce Problem is Essential for National Security
In this episode, hosts Michael Farnum and Sam Van Ryder sit down with Valerie Moon, Executive Director of the Institute for Critical Infrastructure Technology (ICIT) for a wide-ranging discussion about cybersecurity policy, workforce development, and the growing threats facing critical infrastructure. Things Mentioned: Website for ICIT: https://www.icitech.org/ Upcoming CYBR.SEC.Community events: https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/conference/ CYBR.SEC.Careers: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cybr-sec-careers/about/ fundraisers: Cards for a Cause: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/cybr-sec-careers_cybrseccareers-nonprofit-cybersecurity-activity-7436794892787359744-v4Cz CYBR CLAY SHOOT: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/cybr-sec-careers_cybrclayshoot-cybersecurity-cybercareers-activity-7435353518951084033-1iw9 Proceeds support CYBR.SEC.Careers mission is to build a strong, diverse workforce by providing career exposure, access to education and certifications, and mentorship for students and veterans pursuing careers in cybersecurity. Do you have a question for the hosts? Reach out to us at media@cscgroupllc.com Keep up with CYBR.SEC.CON.: LinkedIn X Facebook Instagram Keep up with CYBR.SEC.Media: LinkedIn X Facebook Instagram Check out our Conferences and Events: CYBR.SEC.CON. OT.SEC.CON. CYBR.HAK.CON. EXEC.SEC.CON. CSC User Group Support CYBR.SEC.Careers Non-Profit Efforts CYBR.SEC.Careers Apply to the CYBR.SEC.Careers Scholarship Taylor Austin Broussard Memorial Scholarship Listen to our other show: CYBR.HAK.CAST Thank you to our Media Partners: CYBR.SEC.CON. and OT.SEC.CON. OGGN (Oil & Gas Global Network) UtilSec CYBR.SEC.CON. and CYBR.HAK.CON. BarCode Podcast Cyber Distortion Podcast
March 19, 2026Episode 6433 min
Episode 64: Rob Lee
Dragos CEO and U.S. National Guard Lt. Col. Rob Lee joins hosts Michael Farnum and Sam Van Ryder to discuss why he returned to military service, the growing cyber threats to critical infrastructure, and the role exercises like Cyber Fortress play in preparing both government and private sector operators for real-world cyber incidents. SHOW NOTES: Things Mentioned: Cyber Fortress 2026: https://va.ng.mil/Cyber-Fortress/ Upcoming CYBR.SEC.Community events: https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/conference/ CYBR.SEC.Careers: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cybr-sec-careers/about/ fundraisers: Cards for a Cause: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/cybr-sec-careers_cybrseccareers-nonprofit-cybersecurity-activity-7436794892787359744-v4Cz CYBR CLAY SHOOT: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/cybr-sec-careers_cybrclayshoot-cybersecurity-cybercareers-activity-7435353518951084033-1iw9 Proceeds support CYBR.SEC.Careers mission is to build a strong, diverse workforce by providing career exposure, access to education and certifications, and mentorship for students and veterans pursuing careers in cybersecurity. Episode 64 Timestamps: 6:48 – Why Lee returned to military service Lee explains how calls from government and military leaders prompted him to return to the National Guard to help address unresolved questions around defending operational technology (OT) during conflict. 9:33 – Role in the 91st Cyber Brigade Lee describes his position as executive officer and the mission of the Army National Guard’s cyber brigade. 14:52 – Cyber Fortress exercise explained Lee walks through the origins of Cyber Fortress and how it evolved from a state-level exercise into a broader operational technology training environment. 17:53 – How Cyber Fortress works The exercise combines training, red-team simulations, and participation from infrastructure operators to practice responding to real OT cyber incidents. 20:10 – Cyber conflict and civilian infrastructure Lee discusses the growing risk of state actors targeting hospitals, utilities, and other civilian infrastructure. 24:23 – Cyber attacks that lead to loss of life Lee argues the cybersecurity community must acknowledge that cyber operations have already contributed to real-world deaths. 27:04 – The role of cyber in modern warfare The discussion explores how cyber capabilities are increasingly intertwined with traditional military conflict. Do you have a question for the hosts? Reach out to us at media@cscgroupllc.com
March 10, 2026Episode 6324 min
From Cyberstalking to Cybersecurity Leadership: Kelley Misata’s Mission to Protect Nonprofits
In this episode of CYBR.SEC.CAST, the hosts sit down with Dr. Kelley Misata, CEO of Sightline Security, to explore the often-overlooked cybersecurity challenges facing nonprofit organizations. Misata shares her powerful origin story — how a personal experience with cyberstalking led her to pursue a PhD in cybersecurity and ultimately launch a nonprofit dedicated to helping mission-driven organizations assess and improve their security posture. She also discusses the misconceptions surrounding nonprofit cybersecurity, the communication gap between security professionals and nonprofit leaders, and why “nonprofit” is simply a tax designation, not a reflection of an organization’s sophistication or risk exposure. Misata also explains how Sightline Security’s Kickstart program, built around a simplified interpretation of the NIST Cybersecurity Framework, helps nonprofits identify practical security priorities and build sustainable cyber resilience. SHOW NOTES: Things Mentioned: Website for Sightline Security: https://sightlinesecurity.org/ Kickstarter program: https://sightlinesecurity.org/kickstart Upcoming CYBR.SEC.Community events: https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/conference/ CYBR.SEC.Careers: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cybr-sec-careers/about/ fundraisers: Cards for a Cause: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/cybr-sec-careers_cybrseccareers-nonprofit-cybersecurity-activity-7436794892787359744-v4Cz CYBR CLAY SHOOT: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/cybr-sec-careers_cybrclayshoot-cybersecurity-cybercareers-activity-7435353518951084033-1iw9 Proceeds support CYBR.SEC.Careers mission is to build a strong, diverse workforce by providing career exposure, access to education and certifications, and mentorship for students and veterans pursuing careers in cybersecurity. EPISODE 63 Timestamps: 4:14 – Kelley Misata’s origin story Dr. Misata explains how she unexpectedly entered cybersecurity after being the victim of cyberstalking while working at a technology company. 5:25 – Turning a personal crisis into a cybersecurity PhD Instead of retreating from the experience, Misata pursued a PhD in cybersecurity to better understand how the technology behind the attacks worked. 6:09 – Early work with the Tor Project and open source security Her research journey led to working with the Tor Project and later serving as president of the Open Information Security Foundation. 6:27 – Researching cybersecurity risks facing nonprofits Misata describes her doctoral research studying nonprofits that assist domestic violence and human trafficking victims, focusing on how organizations protect both their operations and the people they serve. 8:44 – The moment she realized nonprofits cared about cybersecurity Her dissertation survey received far more responses than expected, revealing that nonprofit organizations were eager to engage on cybersecurity issues. 9:00 – From dissertation to mission: founding Sightline Security Encouraged by colleagues, Misata launched Sightline Security in 2018 to help nonprofits understand and assess their cybersecurity posture. 12:00 – Debunking the “security poverty line” myth Misata explains that nonprofits aren’t necessarily under-resourced—they simply operate under different financial and operational models than traditional businesses. 14:24 – The communication gap between security pros and nonprofits She shares an example where security practitioners assumed nonprofits lacked basic controls, but the real issue was simply a language mismatch around security terminology. 16:09 – The wide range of nonprofit cybersecurity maturity Nonprofits span the entire spectrum—from small volunteer organizations to large institutions with enterprise-level infrastructure and IT teams. 19:57 – Why “nonprofit” is just a tax designation
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