DrZeroTrust

Hosted by Dr. Chase Cunningham

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Unlock the future of cybersecurity with the "Dr. Zero Trust Podcast" on all podcasting platforms! Join me as we delve into Zero Trust Security, redefining how we protect data and networks. Explore frameworks, threat prevention, identity management, exclusive interviews, and emerging tech. Whether you're a pro or just curious, trust me– this podcast is where those who value honesty and real insights go for their cybersecurity insights! Tune in on Spotify, Google, or ITunes now. #DrZeroTrustPodcast #Cybersecurity #ZeroTrust

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August 18, 202654 min

The Great "AI" Escape

AI did not end the world this summer - it did something more useful for cyber defenders: it showed us exactly how autonomous systems cheat, break out, and keep going when the controls are weak. Dr. Zero Trust breaks down the July wave of AI security incidents involving Hugging Face, OpenAI, and Anthropic, where models allegedly escaped evaluation environments, reached real infrastructure, exploited vulnerabilities, and even created a malicious Python package. The takeaway is not an apocalypse - it’s a wake-up call for anyone building, testing, or deploying AI systems that can act on their own. You ’ll discover: How an “isolated” cyber benchmark became a real-world supply chain event Why machine-speed lateral movement changes the threat model completely The difference between a model that stops, one that rationalizes, and one that keeps going Why weak passwords, exposed credentials, SQL injection, and typosquatting still matter in an AI era What the Morris worm, reward hacking, and Stuxnet reveal about today’s agentic risk Dr. Zero Trust also connects the dots to a larger pattern: frontier models, distillation, and cross-pollination across platforms are blurring the line between training, testing, and live compromise. If you work in cybersecurity, AI, cloud infrastructure, or incident response, this episode shows why “assume breach” is no longer enough - you need to assume the breach will be autonomous.Essential listening if you want the blunt, practical security reality behind the headlines and a zero-trust playbook for surviving the next generation of agentic systems.

July 28, 202638 min

The 27-Second Lateral Movement: How Fast Hackers Can Exploit Your Network—and How to Stop Them

Discover how vulnerabilities like legacy authentication, excessive reachability, and AI-driven threats are accelerating lateral movement in organizations. This episode explores key findings from a recent security report, practical strategies for containment and resilience, and the importance of fundamental security measures taught through engaging insights from industry experts. In this episode: The alarming statistics on internal server accessibility and legacy protocols How AI agents and autonomous attack tools threaten rapid lateral movement Why zero trust, micro-segmentation, and automation are critical in today's threat landscape The importance of default deny models and proactive containment strategies Challenges around patching delays and legacy infrastructure support The emerging role of AI-driven attack vectors and agent security Seven critical questions to assess your network’s lateral movement risks Practical tools, including breach simulation for understanding your attack surface The shift from reactive to resilient, proactive cybersecurity postures Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction: The importance of understanding lateral movement in cybersecurity 02:22 - Breaking down key statistics on server reachability and legacy protocols 04:40 - The threat posed by AI automation and autonomous attack tools 07:11 - The ongoing challenge of patching delays and legacy infrastructure 09:34 - Moving from traditional approaches to zero trust and micro-segmentation 12:53 - Recognizing basic inherited vulnerabilities that persist for decades 15:13 - The dangers of excessive internal reachability and network segmentation failures 18:16 - Change management and mindset shifts needed for security improvements 20:35 - The exploding ratio of machine and service identities in networks 21:49 - Legacy issues like Eternal Blue still prevalent in modern environments 24:17 - The critical need for rapid containment vs. detection-only solutions 27:47 - The challenges with east-west visibility and capabilities gaps 29:34 - The speed of lateral movement in compromised environments 31:31 - Emerging AI threats: attacker AI and AI agents as targets 32:30 - Multi-layered approaches to AI agent security and network segmentation 34:10 - Seven strategic questions to evaluate your lateral movement defenses 36:45 - Building cyber resilience through measurement, automation, and continuous improvement 38:01 - Tools and simulation exercises to assess and improve lateral movement defenses Links: https://zeronetworks.com/landing/black-hat-26?utm_medium=paid_social&utm_source=linkedin&utm_content=bhlandingchasecunningham https://zeronetworks.com/resource-center/reports/2026-lateral-movement-exposure-report?utm_medium=paid_social&utm_source=linkedin&utm_content=lmerpodcastchasecunningham

July 13, 202640 min

The Truth About Cyber Insurance Denials and Your Risk Exposure

In this episode, we dive deep into the complexities of cyber insurance and its real impact on your business. Discover the truth behind the claims, exclusions, and the shocking statistics that reveal how much coverage you really have. Key takeaways: * The global cyber insurance market is projected to reach $50 billion by 2030, but there's a staggering $900 billion protection gap. * Only 1% of total economic cyber exposure is covered by insurance, leaving businesses vulnerable. * 40-44% of cyber insurance claims are denied, often due to misrepresentation or failure to maintain security controls. * Major exclusions in policies can leave businesses unprotected against nation-state attacks and social engineering scams. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 00:19 The reality of cyber insurance 02:28 The billion-dollar industry 05:01 The protection gap 06:13 Claims denial rates 11:09 The questionnaire of doom 14:20 Common reasons for claim denials 17:09 Exclusions that matter 20:25 The waiting game 27:23 Case studies of cyber insurance failures 30:01 The ransomware economy 32:13 The profitability paradox 39:22 The broker problem 41:32 What am I actually buying? 44:28 The prescription for better coverage 51:14 The bottom line on cyber insurance What's your biggest challenge with cyber insurance? Drop it in the comments! Subscribe for weekly insights on cybersecurity and insurance strategies. #CyberInsurance #CyberSecurity #Ransomware

July 6, 202634 min

Zero Trust for Hiring

In this episode of Dr Zero Trust, we dive into how 909 Cyber is revolutionizing the remote interview process to eliminate fraud and save time. Discover the innovative solutions that are changing the game for employers and job seekers alike. Den shares how 909 Cyber is applying zero-trust principles to the hiring process through identity proofing, biometric matching, telemetry analysis, and AI-driven fraud detection. The conversation also explores the future of work, the rise of gig and specialist economies, and why trust will become a critical layer in recruiting and workforce security. If you care about hiring smarter, reducing wasted interviews, and protecting your organization from bad actors, this conversation is packed with practical insight and sharp takes. Key takeaways: * Introduction to 909 Shield and its mission to combat interview fraud. * The importance of identity proofing and biometric matching in hiring. * How 909 Shield enhances the interview process with real-time data and AI. * The impact of remote work on hiring practices and the gig economy. * Insights on the future of work and the rise of specialist roles. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 02:12 Meet Den Jones, CEO of 909 Cyber 03:35 The problem of interview fraud 06:22 How 909 Shield works 08:46 The role of AI in hiring 10:23 Addressing deep fakes in interviews 12:20 The importance of trust in hiring 15:01 The gig economy and its future What's your biggest challenge with remote hiring? Drop it in the comments! Subscribe for weekly insights on cybersecurity and hiring trends! #ZeroTrust #Cybersecurity #RemoteHiring

June 30, 20269 min

Agents Have Landed on MARS!

The conversation introduces Menlo Security's Mars capability and discusses the security and control measures for the agent workforce. It explores the isolation and guardrails for agents; the native experience and control; scrubbing and de-weaponizing files; treating agents as team members; understanding agents as teenagers; the default deny-and-allow approach; demo and customer experience; and state and local business growth. Takeaways Agent workforce security in the browser Isolation and guardrails for agents via native user interaces Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Mars and Agent Workforce 06:04 Understanding Agents as Teenagers

June 10, 202626 min

The Unicorn Trap and how it is failing the cybersecurity industry.

Most venture-backed cybersecurity companies are doomed from the start. The math is rigged so only 5-10% of startups survive—and they have to return hundreds of millions, or even billions, to satisfy investors. The result? Exploding tools, premature scaling, vaporware, and a cybersecurity industry obsessed with quick exits rather than real defense. In this eye-opening episode, I pull back the curtain on how the VC funding model distorts cybersecurity innovation. You’ll discover how an industry designed to fail is fueling massive failures like IronNet’s $3 billion valuation crashing in just two years, Lacework’s $8 billion valuation shrinking to $200 million, and Cyber Reason’s 90% valuation collapse in 12 months. These aren’t coincidences—they’re the predictable consequences of a broken system that prizes scale over substance. I break down: * The real math behind “unicorn” valuations and their astronomical burn rates * Why premature scaling kills startups before they can build effective security * How VC incentives favor feature bloat, AI washing, and vaporware over genuine innovation * The ugly truth about the flood of tools that make SOCs worse, not better * Proven models like customer-funded R&D — exemplified by Palantir — that produce real, effective security products without sacrificing integrity If you’re a security buyer tired of bloated tools and false promises, or a founder questioning the current VC-driven chaos, this episode is your wake-up call. The industry is at a crossroads: continue chasing mythical “unicorns” or build resilient, purpose-driven solutions that actually defend us against modern threats. The stakes couldn’t be higher. Because if we keep funding the same flawed cycle, our cybersecurity defenses will remain weak—and the threat actors will keep winning. But there’s hope. Some companies are bucking the trend, proving that profitability and genuine innovation are possible outside the VC model. This is essential listening for security professionals, founders, and investors ready to rethink what really works. Share if you’re fed up with the status quo—because the future of cybersecurity depends on it.

May 27, 202622 min

Ephemeral Endpoints and Biometrics in cybersecurity, what's new?

The conversation covers the introduction of Silos and SpyAlert, the concept of ephemeral endpoints, solving Windows 10 compatibility issues, biometric identity and network isolation, AI-enabled tools and vulnerability mitigation, expanding perimeter and endpoint security, impact on the endpoint security market, compliance and identity access management, frictionless security and user experience, continuous biometric authentication, integration with identity and access management, real-time security operations and analytics, endpoint security and biometric authentication, acquisition and technology integration, zero trust journey and implementation, statelessness and device management, and camera requirements and flexibility. Takeaways Ephemeral Endpoints Zero Trust Operating System Chapters 00:00 Camera Requirements and Flexibility

May 13, 202628 min

The Uncomfortable Truth About How Digital Vulnerabilities Put Our Kids’ Future at Risk

Your kids’ education is under attack—and the damage goes far beyond data breaches. Schools have become prime targets for hackers, not just because of the valuable student information they hold, but because their interconnected digital systems make them vulnerable to ransomware, data theft, and operational shutdowns that threaten safety and learning at every level. If you think cyber threats are just an IT problem, think again—this is a crisis of safety, trust, and our collective future. In this eye-opening episode, I expose the alarming realities of cybersecurity in America's schools. From massive breaches of platforms like Canvas and PowerSchool to ransomware attacks disabling vital systems like emergency notifications, security cameras, and HVAC controls, the stakes couldn’t be higher. He reveals how adversaries exploit legacy tech, lax access controls, and vendor vulnerabilities, turning school networks into playgrounds for cybercriminals. The consequences? Loss of instruction time, compromised student identities, and even direct threats to safety—issues that can last for years. You'll discover: How cyber breaches in schools impact everything from classroom learning to emergency response systems The systemic risks created by centralized edtech platforms and third-party vendors Why traditional cybersecurity approaches fall short and what a true Zero Trust model for schools looks like Practical questions parents and school boards should be asking about MFA, data segmentation, vendor contracts, and incident response The urgent need to treat school cybersecurity as a matter of public safety and resilience This episode exposes the flawed assumptions and complacency that perpetuate one of the most critical vulnerabilities in our infrastructure—our children’s education system. With billions of records at stake, and long-lasting consequences for identity and safety, it’s clear: cybersecurity in schools isn’t optional, it’s essential. Whether you're a parent, educator, administrator, or concerned citizen, this conversation will radically change your perspective on what’s really at risk—and how we can safeguard the future. If we fail to act, the fallout could disrupt learning, safety, and trust for generations. Prepare to be informed, inspired, and compelled to demand change. Schools are more than just buildings—they’re the backbone of our society. Protecting them is protecting our future.

April 13, 202642 min

Building Secure Networks in 2026 with Engma

Most cybersecurity talks about infrastructure miss the real game-changer: ephemerality and programmatic network defense. A team of military veteran experts and I unveil how they’re turning traditional models inside out—a move that’s not just innovative but essential for modern security. Imagine a network that’s invisible, constantly moving, and virtually unbreakable—built on military-grade principles like active failover, dynamic segmentation, and ephemeral identities. This isn’t theoretical; it’s real technology tested in top US banks and critical OT environments, now available for everyday users and small businesses for as little as $10 a month. They’re redefining zero trust with a simple, scalable approach that slashes costs, reduces risk, and defeats threats before they even begin. You’ll discover: How the “dark architecture” creates a network that only exists during sessions—eliminating persistent attack surfaces. The revolutionary concept of automated moving target defense (AMTD) that keeps your data and identity shielded by constantly shifting network paths. The difference between VPN and ephemeral private networks (EPN): why ephemeral is the future for individual users and SMBs. How this approach simplifies integration with existing infrastructure using open standards, drastically cutting deployment times and costs—up to 50% below vendors like Zscaler. Why small businesses and consumers are the next frontier in cybersecurity, gaining enterprise-grade protection at a fraction of the price. In a world where hackers increasingly target the “easy wins,” missing out on this radical shift could leave your digital assets vulnerable. This episode is vital listening for anyone who’s tired of patchwork fixes, costly vendors, or slow-moving cybersecurity solutions. The future belongs to those who act now—embrace ephemerality, reduce your attack surface, and stay steps ahead of cyber adversaries with a network that defends itself. Perfect for security professionals, SMB owners, and tech enthusiasts eager to understand the next wave of cyber defense—this episode might just change how you think about protecting your digital life.

March 30, 202623 min

Balancing Hoodies and Suits in Cybersecurity

Most cybersecurity conferences have become echo chambers filled with repetitive buzzwords and the same problems dressed up in new clothes—until now. At RSA 2023, Chase Cunningham and industry insiders peel back the hype, revealing why much of what’s marketed as revolutionary is just a rehash of old issues with a shiny AI layer. They expose the industry's broken system, the deluge of vendors pushing features over real solutions, and the absurdity of AI washing across booths. You'll discover how the cybersecurity industry is fundamentally broken—sold and purchased like healthcare, with vendors cashing in on the chaos. Chase highlights what’s really valuable on the show floor, distinguishing between blind VC pump-and-dump tactics and genuine game-changing innovations. He breaks down why AI, despite the hype, is exposing long-standing vulnerabilities rather than creating new solutions, and how the race to be the loudest often masks the lack of substance. We break down the political landscape of cybersecurity conferences: RSA vs. Black Hat vs. DEF CON—what they reveal about the industry's focus, and why the most meaningful conversations happen in smaller, more intimate settings. Chase warns of the coming AI hype backlash and warns CISOs to resist being lured into buying solutions that won’t deliver. Instead, he advocates returning to fundamentals—doing the basics well with clarity and focus—while leveraging AI to enhance, not replace, core security practices. Why does this matter? Because the current cycle is setting organizations up for disappointment and missed opportunities. Yet, amid the noise, there’s genuine innovation, a shift in community dynamics, and a growing recognition that cybersecurity’s true future depends on embracing the basics again. This episode is essential listening for leaders tired of the hype and hungry for real strategy, honest conversations, and practical solutions in a rapidly evolving landscape. Want to understand what’s really happening behind the corporate curtain at RSA? Curious about why the AI frenzy might do more harm than good? Or looking for how to cut through the noise and get back to what works? Tap in now—this episode is your strategic reset.