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Welcome to the Celebrity Estates podcast. In this podcast we break down high profile celebrity estate planning cases for advisors and their clients. Most celebrity estate catastrophes are based on the same issues that everyday people face, just with the volume turned up. Our goal is to identify and extract the individual estate planning issues that lie at the heart of each story. We then discuss what advisors should expect and how to avoid common pitfalls.

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May 18, 202627 min

Celebrity Estates: Chuck Norris, Royalties, and Family Expectations with Scott Rahn

Estate planning often becomes far more difficult when families inherit assets tied to royalties, licensing rights and public image. Clear communication and preparation can make the difference between unity and conflict after a loved one passes away. In this episode of Celebrity Estates, Senior Editor David Lenok speaks with Scott Rahn, trust and estates litigator and founding partner of RMO LLP, about the estate of Chuck Norris and the planning considerations tied to celebrity wealth. Using Norris’ reported $70 million estate as a framework, Scott explains why celebrity net worth figures often differ from the actual value of an estate, particularly when royalties, private companies and likeness rights are involved. David and Scott also explore the importance of family communication, the responsibilities that come with fiduciary roles, and why coordinated advisory teams can help reduce disputes after a death occurs. Their conversation highlights how preparation, flexibility and clear expectations can help families better manage both the emotional and financial realities of complex estates. Key takeaways: Why celebrity estate valuations often shift dramatically based on royalties, public image and timing How family expectations can create tension when emotional value differs from economic value Why heirs inheriting IP rights face responsibilities beyond simply receiving money or property How coordinated advisors and family communication can reduce disputes after a death occurs Why estate plans should allow flexibility as family structures and financial realities evolve Resources: Listen to Celebrity Estates on Wealth Management Subscribe and listen to Celebrity Estates on Apple Podcasts Subscribe and listen to Celebrity Estates on Spotify Trust and Estates Magazine Connect With David Lenok: david.lenok@informa.com Wealth Management LinkedIn: David Lenok LinkedIn: Informa LinkedIn: Wealth Management Connect With Scott Rahn: LinkedIn: Scott Rahn LinkedIn: RMO Lawyers Website: RMO Lawyers Email: rahns@rmolawyers.com About Our Guest: Los Angeles attorney Scott Rahn resolves contests, disputes, and litigation related to trusts, estates, and conservatorships, creating a welcome peace of mind for clients. He represents heirs, beneficiaries, trustees, and executors. He utilizes his experience to develop and implement strategies that swiftly and cost-effectively address the financial issues, fiduciary duties, and emotional complexities underlying trust contests, estate conflicts, and probate litigation. Driven by a commitment to provide relief to people grieving the loss of a loved one, Scott collaborates closely with clients. He pursues and defends claims involving incapacity, incompetence, undue influence, breach of fiduciary duty, and other similar areas of dispute. His advice and counsel include prevention and remediation of financial elder abuse. Scott is known for in-depth financial investigations and deftly handling intra-family dynamics and decades-long family friction. He has extensive experience in courts, arbitration, mediation, and dispute resolution forums across California, as well as in key retirement centers in the United States and through strategic partnerships in international locations. His clients are typically embroiled in inheritance disputes, trust contests, will contests, caregiver undue influence, step-parent undue influence, sibling undue influence, estate administration irregularities, beneficiary bias, trustee misappropriation, accounting irregularities, breach of fiduciary duty, beneficiary theft, trust investigations, accusations of wrongdoing, fraudulent behavior, wrongful taking something from an estate, and breach of fiduciary duties. He focuses on identifying and correcting where behavior went wrong, and pointing out where allegations of wrongdoing are simply wrong.

April 29, 202625 min

Celebrity Estates: Lessons From Matthew Perry’s Well-Planned Estate

Estate planning can appear straightforward until factors like privacy, control and long-term management come into play. What begins as a simple distribution of assets can quickly involve decisions around trusteeship, probate and how to prevent disputes. In this episode of Celebrity Estates, Senior Editor David Lenok speaks with Jennifer Proper, managing director of wealth strategies at Pitcairn, about a case where estate planning worked exactly as intended. Using the estate of actor Matthew Perry as a reference point, Jennifer explains how a revocable trust and pour-over will can function together to maintain privacy, avoid probate and streamline the handling of assets. David and Jennifer also examine the role of trustees, the importance of updating documents over time, and how specific provisions can discourage challenges or fraudulent claims. Their conversation underscores why planning early and reviewing regularly can make a meaningful difference in how an estate is ultimately administered. Key takeaways: How revocable trusts and pour-over wills work together to protect privacy and simplify asset distribution Why avoiding probate helps reduce costs, delays and public exposure of estate details The importance of choosing and reviewing trustees to handle long-term fiduciary responsibilities How specific clauses can discourage disputes and reduce the risk of fraudulent claims Why estate planning should begin early and evolve as life circumstances and goals change Resources: Listen to Celebrity Estates on Wealth Management Subscribe and listen to Celebrity Estates on Apple Podcasts Subscribe and listen to Celebrity Estates on Spotify Trust and Estates Magazine Register now for the Wealth Management Edge conference here! Connect With David Lenok: david.lenok@informa.com Wealth Management LinkedIn: David Lenok LinkedIn: Informa LinkedIn: Wealth Management Connect With Jennifer Proper: LinkedIn: Jennifer Proper LinkedIn: Pitcairn Website: Pitcairn About Our Guest: As a leader in the Wealth Management Team, Jennifer serves as a strategic wealth advisor, providing innovative planning services to achieve excellent client outcomes and deliver a superior client experience. Her responsibilities encompass all aspects of wealth planning, including trust and estate administration, fiduciary advice, and wealth planning advice. She works directly with clients to proactively identify and address current and future needs and then collaborates with team members across the firm to implement customized planning strategies. Jennifer works with the entire Pitcairn team to enhance best practices and foster strong team dynamics in order to meet the complex needs of client families. Before joining Pitcairn, Jennifer served as Director, Legacy and Wealth Planning at Abbot Downing, a Wells Fargo division serving ultra-high-net-worth individuals and family offices. While at Abbot Downing, she provided sophisticated estate, business, and financial planning for the firm’s clients and led the Northeast regional planning team. Jennifer earned a Juris Doctorate from Albany Law School of Union University, with a concentration in Estate Planning. She also has a Bachelor of Science in History and Political Science with a Minor in Spanish from Binghamton University in Binghamton, NY. Active by nature, Jennifer spends her free time hiking, cheering on the Philadelphia Sixers with her family, and doing F45 workouts to take her health and fitness to the next level. Jennifer is an animal lover and enjoys daily walks with her dog, Miley. Originally from Syracuse, New York, suburban Philadelphia is now home for Jennifer, her husband, and two daughters.

March 16, 202630 min

Celebrity Estates: Cross-Border Estate Planning Lessons with Martin Behn

Estate planning becomes more complicated when assets, citizenship and tax rules extend beyond a single country. What seems straightforward on paper can quickly involve multiple jurisdictions, reporting requirements, and competing legal systems. In this episode of Celebrity Estates, Senior Editor David Lenok speaks with Martin Behn, partner at Lathrop GPM, about the estate planning challenges that arise when individuals hold assets or citizenship in more than one country. Using the recent death of actress Catherine O’Hara as an example, Martin explains how advisors must identify assets globally, determine which country’s laws apply, and account for international tax treaties. David and Martin also explore how factors like residency, citizenship and domicile influence estate taxation and inheritance outcomes. Their conversation highlights why cross-border planning often requires coordination between advisors and attorneys in different jurisdictions to help families transfer wealth effectively. Key takeaways: Why identifying every asset worldwide is the first step in cross-border estate planning How tax treaties determine which country controls estate and gift tax treatment Why advisors may need estate planning documents in multiple jurisdictions The planning risks when countries impose forced heirship rules on estates The difference between citizenship, residency and domicile in tax planning And more! Resources: Listen to Celebrity Estates on Wealth Management Subscribe and listen to Celebrity Estates on Apple Podcasts Subscribe and listen to Celebrity Estates on Spotify Trust and Estates Magazine Connect With David Lenok: david.lenok@informa.com Wealth Management LinkedIn: David Lenok LinkedIn: Informa LinkedIn: Wealth Management Connect With Martin Behn: LinkedIn: Martin Behn Website: Lathrop GPM About Our Guest: Martin Behn represents clients in matters concerning estate planning, trust administration, probate, and trust litigation. Martin’s practice primarily focuses on estate planning with a multi-generational focus. Martin advises clients regarding sophisticated family wealth transfer and tax planning techniques, including Grantor Retained Annuity Trusts (GRATs), Charitable Remainder Trusts (CRTs), sales to intentionally defective grantor trusts, gift trusts with intentionally defective grantor trust provisions, Irrevocable Life Insurance Trusts (ILITs), and Generation-Skipping transfer Trusts (GST / Heritage Trusts). Prior to joining the firm, Martin was with Sinsheimer Juhnke McIvor & Stroh, LLP in San Luis Obispo, California, and Grant & Gordon, LLP in Palo Alto, California.

March 2, 202629 min

Celebrity Estates: Rethinking Estate Planning for the Childfree with Dr. Jay Zigmont

Life choices that fall outside the traditional script can expose weaknesses in systems built on long-standing assumptions. When marriage, children and default heirs are not part of the picture, planning must adapt or risk unintended consequences. In this episode of Celebrity Estates, Senior Editor David Lenok explores the estate of Coco Chanel alongside Dr. Jay Zigmont, PhD, MBA, CFP, founder and CEO of Childfree Wealth. Their discussion centers on how outdated legal frameworks intersect with modern family structures, why capacity and undue influence claims arise in high-profile estates, and what happens when significant wealth is directed outside bloodlines. Jay outlines how childfree and permanently childless adults face unique estate and long-term care considerations, why powers of attorney and fiduciary appointments are critical, and how a “die with zero” philosophy can reshape retirement and legacy strategies. Join David Lenok and Dr. Jay Zigmont as they unpack the estate planning lessons behind nontraditional family structures and the importance of aligning financial systems with evolving life paths. Key takeaways: Why 25% of U.S. adults identify as childfree or permanently childless How estate law assumptions can create guardianship and inheritance risks Why many professionals suggest evaluating powers of attorney by midlife Why “die with zero” planning challenges traditional AUM models How advisors can adapt systems to better serve nontraditional families Resources: Listen to Celebrity Estates on Wealth Management Subscribe and listen to Celebrity Estates on Apple Podcasts Subscribe and listen to Celebrity Estates on Spotify Trust and Estates Magazine Connect With David Lenok: david.lenok@informa.com Wealth Management LinkedIn: David Lenok LinkedIn: Informa LinkedIn: Wealth Management Connect With Jay Zigmont: LinkedIn: Jay Zigmont Website: Childfree Wealth Website: Childfree Trust About Our Guest: Dr. Jay Zigmont is on a mission to help people without kids live their best lives, with the plan and finances to support it. He’s a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER and Childfree Wealth Specialist with Childfree Wealth. In short, he’s the go-to expert on navigating the financial road less traveled for people without kids. He’s the author of The Childfree Guide to Life and Money and a cohost of the Childfree Life by Design podcast, where he drops expert knowledge with a dose of humor. Dr. Jay is a frequent contributor to top-tier media outlets, including Forbes, C-Span, TheStreet, and the Wall Street Journal.

January 28, 202622 min

Celebrity Estates: Lessons from Rob Reiner’s Estate

Unexpected events can expose gaps in even the most carefully prepared estate plans. When family conflict, legal standards and timing collide, the outcome can reshape how assets move and who ultimately benefits. In this episode of Celebrity Estates, Senior Editor David Lenok examines the estate of Rob Reiner alongside Sean Weissbart, partner and co-chair of the Tax Benefits and Private Client Practice Group at Blank Rome. The conversation focuses on how slayer statutes function, why probate courts rely on civil standards rather than criminal convictions, and how intent and mental state influence inheritance outcomes. Sean explains how being treated as predeceased can redirect assets, how insanity defenses may affect eligibility and why simultaneous death rules and community property laws matter when spouses die close in time. Join David Lenok and Sean Weissbart as they break down the estate planning lessons behind rare legal scenarios and the importance of thoughtful planning when the unexpected occurs. Key takeaways: How slayer statutes prevent financial benefit after intentional and felonious killing Why civil standards of proof differ from criminal convictions in estate matters How predeceased treatment redirects inheritances to alternate beneficiaries The role of insanity defenses, trusts and fiduciaries in inheritance outcomes Why simultaneous death provisions and planning details can reshape asset flow Resources: Listen to Celebrity Estates on Wealth Management Subscribe and listen to Celebrity Estates on Apple Podcasts Subscribe and listen to Celebrity Estates on Spotify Trust and Estates Magazine Connect With David Lenok: david.lenok@informa.com Wealth Management LinkedIn: David Lenok LinkedIn: Informa LinkedIn: Wealth Management Connect With Sean Weissbart: LinkedIn: Sean Weissbart LinkedIn: Blank Rome Website: Blank Rome About Our Guest: As one of the most regarded millennial estate planners in the country, Sean plays an integral role in the lives of his clients, working together to create legacies that are tax efficient and responsive to the unique needs of each family. On Sean’s practice and style, Chambers USA quotes a client saying that “Sean Weissbart is a very creative estate tax lawyer, and he’s always looking to provide a fuller package than just documents. He cares quite a bit about his bedside manner, and it shows.” Another states, “There are three things that stand out about Sean. First is his ability to accommodate clients, second is his passion for the work he does and third is his empathy.” Clients turn to Sean to handle all aspects of estate planning, the administration of trusts and estates, and the representation of beneficiaries and fiduciaries in contested matters in Surrogate’s Court. Sean’s extensive experience includes advising international families on the impact of U.S. tax laws on their wealth. In international estate matters, Sean assists non-citizens with domestic assets navigate the complicated rules surrounding the tax-efficient transfer of their wealth and counsels U.S. citizens facing income tax issues related to their beneficial interest in foreign trusts. Sean also represents clients on matrimonial matters, including the negotiation of prenuptial and postnuptial agreements and trust modifications following divorce. In addition to his law practice, Sean serves as an adjunct professor of law at New York University School of Law, where he teaches Income Taxation of Trusts and Estates, International Estate Planning, and Tax Aspects of Charitable Giving. He is an author of the law school textbook The Income Taxation of Trusts and Estates, a fellow of The American College of Trust and Estate Counsel, and a regular speaker at the nation’s most prestigious tax conferences. He gives back to the community through many philanthropic endeavors including his service on the board of the Ment’or BKB Foundation and as event chair of the Trusts and Estates Committee of the UJA Federation of New York, having raised millions of dollars to assist those in need.