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Wunder Mobility Podcast

Wunder Mobility Podcast

Hosted by hosted by Gunnar Froh, CEO & Founder

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Episodes

72

Latest episode

Apr 2026

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EN

About the show

Welcome to the "Wunder Mobility Podcast". Every two weeks we will provide you with exciting insights around the Future of Mobility. Tune in as we invite thought leaders from the mobility sector to share their vision, products, successes, and setbacks. We cannot solve the challenges facing our industry alone. We must work together — with companies, cities, political organizations, NGOs, and more — to build our future. The Wunder Mobility Podcast provides the space for us to collaborate and learn from one another. More information is available at www.wundermobility.com/podcast

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April 30, 2026Episode 7250 min

#71 Slavko Bevanda, Chief Product & Technology Officer, Necture

In this episode of the Wunder Mobility Podcast, Gunnar Froh speaks with Slavko Bevanda, Chief Product & Technology Officer at Necture and one of the most experienced operators in European car sharing. Slavko spent five years as CPTO and later COO at ShareNow — the merger of Car2Go and DriveNow and still the largest free-floating car sharing operator the industry has produced — before running technology and operations at Digital Charging Solutions. Today, he leads the team behind Necture, the Vienna-based intelligence and execution layer that sits on top of operators' fleet management platforms. The conversation opens with the metrics that don't make it onto conference slides. Slavko walks through what utilization rates actually mean in free-floating car sharing, where profitability really starts (somewhere between four and seven rides per car per day), what great looks like in cities like Berlin or Milan (seven to nine), and why the right walking distance to a vehicle — typically 300 to 500 meters — is more important than the car model itself. They also dig into pricing: minute and hourly rates, kilometer-based models, day-based rentals, drop-off fees, and the underrated economic impact of upsells like deductible reductions on operator margins. The second part zooms into Necture's product. Slavko explains how the intelligence layer ingests mobility data, mobile network operator data, weather, public transport hubs, events and app openings to break a city into hot and cold zones, predict demand 24 hours out within roughly 10–15% accuracy, and turn that into concrete actions: relocations, dynamic pricing and supply matching. He shares concrete numbers — revenue uplifts of 25 to 50% (and in some cases beyond) — and explains why Necture deliberately ramps up customers slowly to avoid cannibalising existing rides. Then comes the muscle: Street Crowd, the gig-based execution network behind the relocations, with thousands of users per city and fulfilment rates around 90%. The episode closes with a candid outlook on autonomy. Slavko sees teleoperated and autonomous vehicles becoming relevant at scale in two to three years, expects only a handful of brave operators to deploy them next year, and argues that car sharing operators are far better positioned for the autonomous era than the industry currently gives them credit for — they already know how to manage fleets, handle maintenance, and verify customers at the door. A grounded, operator-to-operator conversation about what really moves shared mobility today, and what to prepare for next.

March 31, 2026Episode 7133 min

#70 Lukas Neckermann, Co-Founder, Urban Places Lab

In this episode of the Wunder Mobility Podcast, Gunnar Froh speaks with Lukas Neckermann, a long-standing voice in the mobility revolution who coined the very term over a decade ago. Lukas reflects on how his original thesis—built around three zeros: zero emissions, zero accidents, and zero ownership—has held up against a decade of industry turbulence. From early optimism to the current pushback against electrification and autonomy, the conversation traces the arc of an industry caught between legacy structures and radical transformation. They explore why the automotive industry is resisting change, how globalization is being re-evaluated in the wake of shifting geopolitical dynamics, and what it means for European mobility companies navigating relationships with both US and Chinese players. Lukas argues that despite the complexity, Europe has a unique window of opportunity—particularly in autonomous mobility, where public transport operators and fleet-focused startups are emerging as serious contenders. The discussion turns practical with a look at where the real business opportunities lie: fleet management, maintenance infrastructure, and the operational expertise that successful car sharing operators already bring to the table. Lukas makes the case that we're still on page one of a much longer story—and that the next chapters will be shaped by those willing to build rather than wait. The episode closes with the growing ecosystem of events designed to connect the people shaping mobility's next phase.

February 26, 2026Episode 7038 min

#69 Oliver Mackprang, CEO of MILES Mobility

In this episode of the Wunder Mobility Podcast, Gunnar Froh speaks with Oliver Mackprang, CEO of MILES Mobility, about what it really takes to scale Europe’s largest free-floating car sharing fleet. While the customer experience may look simple—open the app, book a car, drive—the operational reality is anything but. Oliver explains how seven years of continuous iteration shaped MILES’ growth: refining fleet composition, financing structures, pricing logic, and backend tooling to make marginal gains meaningful across tens of thousands of vehicles. They dive into the realities of electrification—why EVs are clearly the future, yet still operationally complex and not automatically more profitable. From charging logistics and downtime to policy volatility and residual value risk, fleet electrification requires careful balancing of economics and customer use cases. Looking ahead, the conversation turns to teleoperations and autonomous vehicles. Oliver shares why he sees teleops as a transitional technology and full autonomy as the real long-term shift—while highlighting regulation as Europe’s biggest bottleneck. A candid discussion on scale, discipline, and preparing for what’s next in shared mobility.

January 22, 2026Episode 6947 min

#68 Bojan Jukic, Co-CEO of Wunder Mobility

In the first Wunder Mobility Podcast episode of 2026, Gunnar Froh and Bojan Jukić look back on what defined shared mobility in 2025—and what operators, cities, and platforms should prepare for next. They frame 2025 as a “post-hype consolidation” year: operators exited secondary markets, merged, reduced fleet sizes, and shifted focus from growth metrics to unit economics and profitability. At the same time, investor confidence began to return as more companies reported sustained profitability and improving valuations. A central theme is the growing role of cities: shared mobility is increasingly treated as urban infrastructure. Municipalities are tightening expectations around service quality—availability, response times, safe parking—and moving toward longer, more exclusive contracts with stricter SLAs. The conversation also highlights a shift in where innovation happens: hardware progress is slower than in earlier years, while software-driven capabilities—predictive maintenance, fraud prevention, demand-based pricing, and operational automation—are becoming the main competitive differentiators. They also note the rise of “unsexy” regional champions: locally focused operators that win through operational excellence, deep city knowledge, and disciplined fleet management rather than global expansion narratives. On Wunder Mobility’s side, Gunnar and Bojan describe a deliberate refocus: choosing a smaller number of core use cases (notably car sharing and bike sharing), prioritizing regional champions over high-volume turnkey models, and investing consistently in innovation and platform maturity. They discuss the push for both velocity and stability—shipping at high cadence while treating uptime as mission-critical—alongside growing investments in AI. Looking into 2026, they predict tighter regulation without subsidies (public responsibility with private risk), more subscription-style packaging and bundling with public transport, airline-like playbooks centered on yield management and utilization, and further consolidation—potentially including a high-profile operator failure. They also explore how autonomous vehicles may start appearing in small numbers, raising strategic questions about the convergence of vehicle sharing and ride-hailing, and whether AV mobility becomes a largely private market or increasingly governed through public tenders.

December 15, 2025Episode 681 hr 5 min

#67 Michael Schrezenmaier, Host @Mobility Mavericks Podcast, Partner at Incharge Capital

In this special German-language episode, Gunnar Froh (Founder & CEO, Wunder Mobility) joins Michael Schrezenmaier for an in-depth conversation on where shared mobility is heading as the market matures and autonomous vehicles begin to reshape the value chain. They unpack what most end users never see: the operational and technical complexity required to make vehicle sharing feel simple and reliable. Beyond the app interface, the heavy lifting happens in backend systems and integrations with many different vehicle types—covering access control, billing, payments, user management, fleet operations (maintenance, repositioning, in-/out-fleeting), and pricing logic. A central theme is that shared mobility still lives and dies by “availability”—matching supply and demand at street level—while operators increasingly move toward more sophisticated levers such as subscriptions, loyalty, and revenue management. A major thread is how autonomy changes the economics. If vehicles can reposition themselves, service levels can improve while fleet sizes (and therefore costs) potentially decrease—shifting the industry toward higher utilization and better unit economics. Gunnar also outlines why the market has remained fragmented: mobility is operationally local and highly regulated, with local advantages often outweighing global network effects. As autonomous fleets scale, Gunnar expects further convergence between carsharing and ride-hailing, with specialized operators acting as fulfillment partners while customer-facing platforms focus on loyalty, bundling, and distribution. Finally, the discussion zooms out: while AVs are a major development, many European cities will continue prioritizing public transport and two-wheelers for efficient urban movement. The episode touches on how modern operators are improving bike-sharing economics through better operations, refurbishment, and smarter commercialization models—showing that profitability is increasingly achievable when execution and data capabilities are strong.

November 25, 2025Episode 6743 min

#66 Matteo Forte, CEO & Founder of SWITCH

In this episode of the Wunder Mobility Podcast, Matteo Forte, CEO of Switch, discusses the innovative use of AI in urban mobility. He explains how his company transitioned from a shared mobility app to simulating entire cities to optimize urban transport. The conversation delves into the accuracy of their AI predictions, the success of their pilot projects, and the introduction of their products, Urban Copilot and Urbiverse. Matteo also shares insights on their business model, competition, and the future of AI agents in mobility, emphasizing the importance of domain expertise and technology integration.

October 17, 2025Episode 6642 min

#65 Martin Trillig, Managing Director of book-n-drive carsharing

In this episode of the Wunder Mobility Podcast, Gunnar speaks with Martin Trillig, Managing Director of book-n-drive, one of Germany’s leading car sharing providers. Martin shares how the company evolved from a 70-car startup to a fleet of over 1,000 vehicles, and discusses the operational and strategic challenges of scaling shared mobility. He highlights the importance of collaboration with city-owned partners, maintaining simplicity in the business model, and staying close to customer needs. The conversation also explores how innovation, flexibility, and a focus on user experience are shaping the future of car sharing in Germany.

July 24, 2025Episode 6539 min

#64 Morten Munch-Olsen, CEO of bilkollektivet

In this episode of the Wunder Mobility Podcast, Gunnar speaks with Morten Munch-Olsen, CEO of bilkollektivet, Norway's largest non-profit car sharing service. They discuss the unique non-profit model, the loyal user base, and the various membership benefits. Morten explains the pricing models, the challenges of managing demand during peak seasons, and the technological advancements that have modernized operations. They also explore the future of mobility, including the potential for tele-operated vehicles and the importance of emotional branding in car sharing.

June 18, 2025Episode 4737 min

#46 Freek Borghgraef, Co- Founder & Head of Customer Development , StriveCloud

Freek was only 16 years old when he started his first business, and straight after University he continued scaling the local gaming platform by the name of Kayzr. The platform then became the biggest in the Benelux with over 100.000 users, mainly due to the use of game-like elements. Kayzr was sold but the know-how of gamification was reused to found StriveCloud, a company that helps any kind of digital service be more successful by integrating gamification.

June 18, 2025Episode 4842 min

#47 Robin Blichfeldt , CEO & Co-founder, Cogo

Robin is the CEO and co-founder of Cogo - Europe's largest shared mobility aggregator. With his vision to simplify the world of shared mobility Cogo is connecting over 500,000 electric scooters, bikes, cars, and mopeds from 300 operators across 70 countries and 700 cities worldwide. Thus, today Cogo empowers users to effortlessly find, ride, and pay for shared vehicles from multiple operators, all through a single platform. Before embarking on his shared mobility journey, Robin was the driving force behind marketing and growth across 15 markets at momondo where he played an important role for momondo’s success which ultimately led them to get acquired by KAYAK in 2017.

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