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Oct 2026

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Join the conversation with Marty Fox, the charismatic CEO of WHITEFOX Real Estate, in 'WITH THE FOX' (WTF) alongside co-host and WHITEFOX Content & Media Manager Shura Taft, each episode, Marty brings together an eclectic mix of guests from industry titans to creative mavericks, sharing insights that span the spectrum of business, culture, and beyond. Engage with the stories that shape our world, the innovations that disrupt it, and the people who inspire it. Tune in to 'WITH THE FOX' and be part of a journey as Marty ignites curiosity and celebrates the multifaceted nature of our lives.

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October 31, 2026Episode 11 hr 5 min

Rob Gray on Luxury, Risk & Thinking Bigger

WITH THE FOX is back for Season 3. Marty sits down with Rob Gray, co-founder of GRAYA and business partner in WHITEFOX Queensland, for a candid conversation about luxury, scale, brand and the realities of building a market-leading property business. Rob unpacks GRAYA’s evolution from trophy homes into major lifestyle developments, the compounding effect of staying in the game and why speed, process and controlled risk sit behind the company’s growth. They explore what genuinely makes a home feel luxurious, the thinking behind projects including Silk and Coral, and why exceptional design is less about expensive finishes and more about volume, flow, frontage, aspect and how a space makes you feel. Rob also opens up about building GRAYA alongside his brother Andrew, hiring for intelligence as the company scales, rewarding the people behind the work and creating a brand that adds lasting value—not just hype. Plus, the partnership with WHITEFOX, why content remains one of Rob’s highest-return investments, and the competitive advantage he believes matters most in property development: relatability and trust. This is an honest look inside the mind behind one of Australia’s most recognisable luxury property brands—and the ambition to help make Brisbane and the Gold Coast two of the world’s greatest places to live.

December 1, 202554 min

WTF - #039 - Dylan Francis, David Murray & Phillip Rand - Top 3 WHITEFOX Agents

In this episode, Marty sits down with the top three agents at WHITEFOX - David Murray, Phillip Rand, and Dylan Francis, to unpack the rise of three leaders shaping the next era of the brand. From Perth to Brisbane to Melbourne’s Northside, these three have gone from high performers in their own markets to business partners overseeing more than $20M in annual GCI and leading teams that are rewriting what success looks like. They dive into the early days, from sabbaticals and self-doubt to cold calls, club meetings, and the first FaceTime that set everything in motion. Marty revisits the moments that made each of them: David’s restart after leaving the industry, Dylan’s leap into leadership and two offices in 12 months, and Phil’s transformation into one of the country’s most recognised National Project Directors. Together, they explore the real shifts behind their growth: the uplift in average sale prices, the leap into new markets, the responsibility of building teams, and the power of authenticity in an industry obsessed with comparison. They talk culture, pace, and pressure, the kind that makes you better, and what it means to be part of a brand built on speed, energy, and alignment over templates and red tape.This one’s about leadership, self-belief, and the art of growing something bigger than yourself, from three very different operators who’ve each found their own lane and made it work.

August 22, 202553 min

WTF - #038 - Rebecca Judd - Host of Vain-ish Podcast, Model & Television Presenter

In this episode, Marty sits down with Rebecca Judd - presenter, brand builder, and co-host of Vain-ish, the beauty podcast that’s anything but surface-level. From red carpets to real estate, raising four kids to raising the bar, Bec unpacks the rhythm of a life built on saying yes to what excites her. They talk creative control, learning on the fly, and why being busy only works when it’s on your terms. She opens up about life behind the scenes - working into the night, juggling expectations, and the confidence that comes with backing yourself, plus how a school-gate conversation became a platform for something bigger. This one’s about energy, execution, and trusting the version of success that feels most like you.

August 18, 202541 min

WHITEFOX - WTF #037 - Clint Stanaway - Host of Weekend Today & Nova 100 breakfast co-host

In this episode, Marty and Shura sit down with Clint Stanaway - host of Weekend Today, Nova 100 breakfast co-host, and the man with a mic at some of sport’s biggest moments. From late-night bulletins to post-match chaos, Clint unpacks what it takes to stay calm on live TV, why interviewing players after a win is one of the toughest gigs, and how a last-minute kick with Cristiano Ronaldo became a career highlight. They talk newsroom culture, media pivots, and the pressure of being the first voice after a grand final, gold medal, or breaking news.He shares the moments that still give him chills, the unpredictability of live crosses, and why tennis players can be the trickiest interviews of all, plus how years in sport shaped his transition to mainstream media and morning radio. This one’s about pressure, pace, and keeping perspective, from centre court to the newsroom floor.

August 8, 202549 min

WTF - #036 - Sarah Davidson - Entrepreneur, Podcast Host and Influencer. Part One

In this episode, Marty and Shura sits down with Sarah Davidson - lawyer-turned-founder, author, and the voice behind Seize the Yay, to trace the journey from piano competitions and perfectionism to purpose led business and personal growth. Raised in a cross cultural household with high expectations and even higher standards, Sarah shares how her early years shaped a deep work ethic, a fear of failure, and a constant push for achievement. But it wasn’t until a health crisis forced her to slow down that she began to question what success really looked like. From launching Matcha Maiden with no business background to navigating burnout, identity shifts, and creative evolution, Sarah unpacks the tension between ambition and alignment - and why learning to let go was her biggest breakthrough. This one’s about upbringing, unlearning, and building a life that actually feels good to live.

August 4, 202556 min

WTF - #035 - Grant Smillie - DJ, ARIA Award winner and restaurateur

In this episode, Marty and Shura sit down with Grant Smillie - DJ, ARIA Award winner, restaurateur, and the creative force behind some of the most iconic venues in Melbourne and LA. From club nights that defined a generation to rooftops that changed West Hollywood licensing laws, Grant unpacks the early days of flyer hustle, the strategy behind the scenes, and the moment 'Flaunt It' became Australia’s highest selling single. They talk music as moodboard, why lighting trumps influencer culture, and how he brought the rooftop scene to LA before it was even a thing. He shares the wild launch of EP & LP, the vision behind Ponyfish Island, and the five month sprint to build Marmont at Crown - plus what it takes to create energy people remember, and the difference between good ideas and the ones that actually stick. This one’s about adaptability, execution, and building with instinct - from soundtracks to spaces to full scale hospitality brands. One idea at a time and a career that never missed the beat.

July 17, 202543 min

WTF - #034 - Ryan Serhant - Founder & CEO of SERHANT.

In this episode, Marty flies to New York City to sit down with Ryan Serhant - CEO, author, educator, and star of Million Dollar Listing and Owning Manhattan. They dive into the early grind - from Craigslist ads and hand modelling to $400M in personal sales - and the childhood that shaped Ryan’s unmatched presence. He opens up about rejection, reinvention, and the pressure of leading with his name on the door. They talk building brand with intention, expanding with conviction, and the weight of scaling something you can’t walk away from. From the lessons of Broadway to the business of brokerage, Ryan unpacks why emotional intelligence outlasts ego - and why leadership starts with being the broker’s broker. From Manhattan to Melbourne, this one’s about work ethic, brand clarity, and the power of turning pressure into profile. One New York trip. One global conversation.

July 8, 202558 min

WTF - #033 - Shaun Wilson - Founder of Bondi Sands

In this episode, Marty and Shura sit down with Shaun Wilson - Founder of Bondi Sands to talk about building a beauty brand that went from local shelves to global scale.They go deep on the salon-standard formula that set them apart, the TikTok trend that reignited an old product, and the learning curve that came with scaling - including the time their tan came out green. From humble beginnings in a Melbourne pharmacy to a reported $450M sale in 2023, Shaun breaks down the moments that mattered most - and the mindset it took to keep showing up through every setback.This one’s about product, patience, and the power of knowing your market better than anyone else.

June 24, 202540 min

WTF #032 - Mitch Jones - Creative Director and Founder of Made For

In this episode, Marty and Shura sit down with Mitch Jones - Creative Director and Founder of Made For, the design practice behind every WHITEFOX office. Known for crafting high-functioning, considered workspaces, Made For creates environments that fuel performance and reflect the businesses they’re built for. They go behind Mitch’s early days in car sales - custom plates, helium balloons, and sealing deals before the paperwork and unpack the energy he felt being around business owners. That energy became the blueprint. From fast turnarounds to full-scale spatial transformations, Mitch shares the mindset that built his brand and the momentum that still drives it. An episode about creative instinct, functional design - and building something that keeps you in the room with the people who inspire you.

June 16, 20251 hr 4 min

WTF #031 - Jess Hatzis - Co-founder of Frank Body and Willow & Blake

In this episode, Marty and Shura sit down with Jess Hatzis - co-founder of Frank Body and Willow & Blake. They go behind the $5K startup story that turned coffee scrubs into a cult skincare brand, the tone of voice that rewrote the rules, and the moment Ariana Grande name-dropped Frank Body in Elle Japan, sending the site into meltdown. Jess unpacks how a cheeky, irreverent voice stood out in a market that had gone stale - and why nailing that personality was the reason they scaled. They also dive into the early days of WHITEFOX - and how Willow & Blake helped shape its bold, polished and matter of fact tone of voice, creating the foundation the brand still builds on today. From creative conviction to viral moments, from tone-led strategy to long-term impact - this is the story of a brand that didn’t follow trends, it set them