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September 9, 20261 hr 27 min

The Space Show Presents A Wide Open Wisdom Team Discussion, Sunday, Sept. 8, 2026

Open Lines, Sept. 8, 2026 The Space Show held an Open Lines discussion on September 8th, with David, John Junt, Joe Pistreto, Marshall Martin, and Dr. Charles Lurio participating. The conversation covered a wide range of topics, starting with a focus on Dr. Eric Weinstein, his criticisms of modern physics and peer review, and his visionary ideas about space and time. The group also talked extensively about SpaceX’s Starship developments, including an upcoming test flight and plans for a new launch site in Louisiana. Other topics included the Artemis program’s timeline and challenges, the political documentary about Elon Musk premiering at the Venice Film Festival, and the ongoing debate about space property rights. The participants also briefly touched on the Roman telescope launch and the concept of black triangle UFOs. In more detail, our Wisdom Team discussed several topics during their Open Lines show. First up was our conversation regarding Dr. Eric Weinstein, a mathematician and physicist who has been critical of string theory and peer review processes in physics. John explained Weinstein’s views on physics, including his concept of geometric unity and multi-dimensional time, while David expressed concerns about conducting an interview with Weinstein due to his limited mathematical background. Briefly, we mentioned two upcoming programs. The Space Show Wisdom Team discussed potentially inviting Eric Weinstein to appear on a space show, with David expressing interest in having him as a guest despite concerns about the technical complexity of the discussion. Joe and Marshall shared insights into the challenges of communicating with highly theoretical mathematicians and physicists, noting the significant intellectual gap between experts and the general public. The group agreed that Weinstein’s appearance would likely generate more views and that David would invite him to be a guest on The Space Show. We went on to talk about the upcoming Starship test flight, which is planned to launch next week, possibly as early as Monday. The payload will include 20 Version 3 Starlink satellites with a total mass of 37 tons, similar to the Apollo Command Service Module and Lunar Module combined. The flight will not attempt to catch either stage at Starbase in Texas, as SpaceX wants to achieve two precision ocean landings first before attempting landing there. Marshall noted that SpaceX currently has a launch window of five days, 21 minutes, 21 hours, and 28 minutes for September 15th, though the date keeps changing frequently. The group discussed SpaceX’s plans for launch towers, clarifying that the baseline is now 12 launch pads rather than 10, with capacity to potentially launch 30 Starships per day. Joe explained that SpaceX is operating as a Neocloud provider, selling AI compute capacity to companies like Google and Anthropic, while also developing StarMind for satellite data centers in different orbits from Starlink. The conversation also touched on Stoke’s recent billion-dollar funding announcement and a new documentary about Elon Musk debuting at the Venice Film Festival. The group discussed a new documentary about Elon Musk that is expected to be critical of him, particularly focusing on his political support for Trump and his role in the 2020 election. They agreed that the film would likely generate negative reactions from the left but might not significantly impact public opinion. The conversation then shifted to NASA’s Artemis program, where they discussed challenges with pressure suits for lunar operations, noting that Axiom Space is developing the suits with some capability down scoping to meet deadlines. The group discussed SpaceX’s timeline for returning to flight, with Charles noting they are still aiming for a launch before the end of the year, potentially with their Blue Moon lunar lander. The conversation then shifted to NASA’s Artemis program, with Joe mentioning that NASA officially targets May or June 2028 for the first crewed moon landing. The discussion concluded with an in-depth conversation about the technical challenges of landing at the moon’s South Pole, including lighting and terrain considerations that affect landing calculations, with Charles explaining the 18.5-year lunar orbit cycle that impacts these calculations. The group discussed lunar exploration missions, focusing on terrain mapping and lander capabilities. Joseph explained that previous orbiters including Lunar Prospector and Chinese satellites had provided good maps of target areas, while Marshall noted that Blue Origin’s Blue Moon lander still plans to deploy a rover despite NASA canceling its original mission. The conversation then shifted to political pressure regarding President Trump’s goal of putting humans on the moon before his term ends, with Marshall suggesting Trump would follow Elon Musk’s approach of setting ambitious deadlines, though Joe believed safety would prevent rushing an unsafe mission and predicted that Blue Origin’s Blue Moon lander would be more likely to be selected for Artemis IV than SpaceX’s Starship due to its proximity to the Artemis III mission. The group discussed the limitations of the current ICPS stage on SLS, which lacks sufficient delta-v for lunar missions, leading to discussions about Block 2 and 2A upgrades. The conversation then shifted to space property rights, with David asking Charles about the current status of this topic after 25 years. Charles indicated that while space property rights remain a discussion topic, there hasn’t been a definitive resolution, and he suspects it will evolve based on future space activities and usage patterns. Joe mentioned that the Artemis Accords might have influenced the landscape regarding space property rights. The group discussed space property rights and jurisdictional challenges in space exploration. Marshall explained that safety zones around spacecrafts and satellites could establish de facto property rights in space, particularly for nuclear reactors on the moon. The discussion included speculation about potential resource discoveries in space, including the Psyche mission to a metal-rich asteroid and the possibility of finding water or valuable minerals. The conversation concluded with updates about the Roman telescope project, which was launched nine months early and under budget, and plans for upcoming shows including one about artificial gravity and space stations with Jules Ross for Sunday, Sept. 13. Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

September 3, 20261 hr 8 min

The Space Show Presents Scott Edwards and his documentary, “To The Black” regarding Firefly Aerospace.

The Space Show Presents Scott Edwards of Merit Production are ready! Tuesday, 8-11-26 Quick Summary: This was a Space Show interview with documentary filmmaker Scott Edwards about his 10-year project following Firefly Aerospace, a rocket company that faced multiple challenges before ultimately succeeding. Scott explained how he first encountered Firefly in 2016 while working on a project for Autodesk, and decided to document the company’s journey after witnessing their early rocket tests and learning about their financial struggles, including losing a promised $30 million investment due to Brexit. The documentary, titled “To the Black,” follows Firefly from their startup days through bankruptcy, restarts, and eventual success with their lunar lander contract and successful rocket launches. The film is set to release on Amazon, Apple, and Google platforms in late September, and during the discussion Scott shared insights about the challenges of both making and selling the documentary, noting that while the content was compelling, the film industry market shifted significantly during production, making distribution more difficult than anticipated. Detailed Summary: David introduced the evening’s Space Show program with Scott Edwards, discussing his background as a documentary filmmaker and his work on the Firefly project. David outlined upcoming shows, including guests discussing nuclear weapons in space, microbial life research, and quantum computing with NASA. Scott explained how he became involved in documenting Firefly’s rocket development after meeting Tom Markusic and other founders while working on a project for Autodesk. He initially filmed rocket tests in Texas on his own time after being encouraged by Eric Solwyn to document the company’s space efforts. When Firefly lost their promised $30 million investment due to Brexit-related issues, Scott realized there was a compelling story to follow, particularly as the company was close to shutting down. Scott discussed his documentary about Firefly Space Systems in detail, which chronicled the company’s struggles with litigation, funding challenges, and eventual bankruptcy before being rebooted with new investors. He explained that the film follows the company’s journey from closure to restart, highlighting the team’s resilience and passion for their mission. Scott mentioned that the film’s release on Amazon Prime, Apple, and Google Play has been delayed due to legal reasons involving secret rocket technology, with a new release date expected in September. Scott discussed his documentary about Firefly, explaining how the company expanded from being a small launch provider to developing a lunar lander after winning a government contract. He described the film’s focus on the personal stories and emotional journey of the people involved rather than just the technical aspects of rocket development. When asked about his artistic background as a painter, Scott explained how his visual composition skills influenced the cinematic approach of the documentary, aiming to create beautiful and dramatic imagery that tells a compelling story. Scott discussed his approach to filming Firefly Aerospace, describing how he viewed the engineers as characters in a story with significant stakes. He explained that the company’s first launch attempt failed when a wire came loose, preventing them from becoming the first to successfully reach space on their initial try. Scott shared that he had unusual access to film the company, with a contract that gave him final cut rights and allowed him to document the process freely, though some leadership was initially concerned about the project’s risks. Our guest discussed screening his film about Tom Rakusic’s space company Firefly at two sold-out theaters in Austin, where it received positive reception from employees and friends. When asked about future projects, Scott indicated he might collaborate with Tom on filming his new space plane venture at Frontera Space, though he remains uncertain about his direction. The discussion concluded with participants reflecting on whether they would pursue entrepreneurial ventures in the space industry, with Phil expressing doubt about his capabilities and Marshall emphasizing the special qualities required of leaders in such ambitious projects. Scott did talk about the high-pressure environment for entrepreneurs in Austin’s tech scene, particularly for founders of space companies who risk their reputations when their ventures fail. He explained how Austin’s entrepreneurial ecosystem provides opportunities for his filmmaking business, including working with companies like Aloe Atomics, and described his approach to building his production team “Merit Productions” based on skill and performance rather than traditional employment relationships. When asked about space launches, Scott revealed he hasn’t attended one in person but noted that the documentary’s main subject, Tom, had worked for major space companies including SpaceX, NASA, and Blue Origin before founding Firefly. John asked if Firefly’s name was inspired by the TV series “Firefly,” though Scott couldn’t confirm this but acknowledged it would be an interesting connection. The group discussed how Firefly Systems has evolved from its early startup days into a larger, more corporate entity with NASA contracts and public IPO status. Scott explained that the company’s culture and approach have changed significantly, moving from a small team working irregular hours driven by Tom’s leadership to a more structured corporate environment. The discussion also covered the documentary film about Firefly’s early days, which premiered at the Atlanta Film Festival under the original title plus the challenges of distributing space-related documentaries through film festivals. We addressed the challenges in the film industry, particularly how festivals have become disconnected from mainstream audiences by focusing on unique topics rather than commercially viable content. He shared his experience making a documentary about Tom building a rocket in Texas, which initially received positive responses from industry professionals and networks, but faced difficulties when the market shifted during COVID and streaming platforms went bankrupt. The film, which follows an ordinary person rather than a celebrity, struggled to find distribution deals despite initial interest from major producers and networks. The group discussed a film about a rocket company and its development, with Scott explaining how the story follows a man who brings his space technology idea to life despite facing obstacles. David praised the film as unique among space stories, noting how few great space ideas are actually implemented. When asked by Phil about omitted content, Scott explained that he left out the lunar lander project and various rocket tests in Texas due to space constraints in the film, as the story needed to focus on the main rocket development rather than side projects. Scott discussed the challenges of filming a rocket company, including the pressure to capture significant moments and the difficulty of balancing content length with storytelling needs. He explained that many beautiful test scenes were cut from the film to focus on the most important parts of the story, though some startup culture and investor pitch scenes were included. The group briefly discussed the potential for creating additional content like time-lapse footage or a “geek version” of the film, but concluded that a niche market might not support such a specialized product. The documentary, “To the Black” about Firefly Aerospace, which will be released on Amazon, Apple, and Google platforms in late September. He described interviewing local residents in Briggs, Texas who surround the rocket test site, capturing their mixed reactions to the space company and the cultural clash between the educated rocket scientists and local farmers. Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

August 31, 20261 hr 54 min

The Space Show Presents Space Journalist, Writer, Author Leonard David.

The Space Show Presents Leonard David, Sunday, 8-30-26 4583 This was a space show discussion hosted by David Livingston with veteran space journalist Leonard David as the main guest, along with several space community members including Marshall Martin, Manuel Cuba, Bill Gowen, John Hunt, Dr. Charles Lurio, Phil Swan, Dr. A.J. Kothari, and Dr. Doug Plata. The conversation centered on the recent launch of NASA’s Roman telescope, with Leonard describing it as a significant moment in astronomy that will complement existing observatories like Hubble and James Webb. The discussion also covered Leonard’s skepticism about NASA’s Artemis program, particularly regarding the transition from Artemis III’s lunar orbit mission to a human landing on the moon, with Leonard expressing concerns about technical readiness and the need for proper testing before committing human missions. The conversation touched on China’s lunar program delays, SpaceX’s Starship development challenges, and broader space policy issues, with participants discussing the gap between scientific discoveries and their incorporation into educational materials for students. David hosted this program with Leonard David as the main guest, discussing recent space developments including the Roman telescope launch. Barbara reported watching the launch early in the morning and praised SpaceX’s success, comparing it to the James Webb telescope deployment. The discussion touched on how new astronomical data from instruments like the Roman telescope and James Webb might be more quickly accessible to the public and citizen science groups compared to previous missions, potentially addressing the delay in updating science textbooks with current findings. Leonard expressed skepticism about the current status of NASA’s Artemis program, citing concerns about the technical readiness to transition from Earth orbit operations to human lunar landings. She noted that while Artemis II was inspiring, there are missing technical links similar to those proven during Apollo missions, and she emphasized the need to avoid early human fatalities in the program. Leonard also discussed the growing space competition with China and the importance of communicating space exploration to the public in accessible ways beyond technical jargon. The group discussed China’s postponement of the Chang’e 7 mission to 2027, with Barbara explaining that timing issues around lunar illumination at the South Pole were the main factor, as the mission required specific lighting conditions for the landing area. Charles clarified that the 18.3-year lunar cycle affects illumination at the South Pole more significantly than at equatorial regions, requiring precise timing rather than simply waiting for the next identical opportunity. The discussion also touched on technical challenges with the relay satellite and landing site conditions, with comparisons made to similar challenges faced by NASA’s Artemis program. Leonard also expressed skepticism about current space programs, particularly regarding SpaceX’s promises and Elon Musk’s leadership style, comparing it to past experiences with the space shuttle program. He shared her concerns about the challenges facing private space companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin, noting that the current space program is significantly different from the Apollo program. Our guest reflected on the past involvement in promoting student payloads for the space shuttle program, where she and colleagues testified before Congress about getting students involved in NASA missions. The group discussed challenges related to lunar exploration, including the complex illumination conditions at the South Pole due to the 18.6-year lunar nodal cycle and the need for continuous computer simulations to map polar sunlight. Leonard highlighted concerns about moonquakes and the importance of gathering more data through additional seismometers before committing to a moon base. The conversation shifted to broader political and financial topics, with David expressing skepticism about government fiscal responsibility and noting that both major political parties contribute to growing national debt, which he believes will have significant impacts on future generations. The group discussed the Artemis program, particularly focusing on the need for unmanned lunar landings before human missions as part of the Artemis IV planning. Leonard expressed skepticism about claims of a cislunar economy, noting that while there are studies and interest from multiple countries including India and China, the sustainability and economic viability of lunar exploration remain uncertain. The discussion also touched on historical space missions, including challenges during Apollo 10 and 11, before being interrupted by David who mentioned a recent Deloitte report on space and the moon. David shared information about a new Deloitte report on the lunar economy, which estimates a potential economic value of $343 billion to $566 billion through 2050. He plans to review the report’s assumptions and potentially invite the authors to discuss it on his space show. The group discussed the importance of reviewing economic projections and assumptions in space exploration, with Barbara emphasizing the need for sustained human presence on the moon before considering Mars missions. The group discussed the development status of Starship, particularly focusing on the differences between flights 13 and 14. Charles explained that flight 14 would attempt to catch both the booster and Starship, with the upper stage catch feature being removed recently. The discussion highlighted ongoing challenges with propellant transfer testing and concerns about space debris, with Leonard expressing worry about potential explosions during refueling operations in orbit. Our guest expressed support for the idea of a Space Academy similar to Annapolis or West Point, noting her work on rewriting a Space Career book and conducting interviews with space startups. He highlighted challenges in the space startup industry, including frequent changes in leadership and funding issues, while acknowledging the presence of successful companies in Colorado like Advanced Space and Blue Canyon. The discussion touched on SpaceX’s dominance in the industry and its role in launching numerous payloads, including CubeSats, though its future plans with Falcon 9 remain uncertain. Leonard and David discussed public skepticism about UAPs (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena), noting that recent Pentagon releases and media coverage have increased public interest. Leonard expressed concerns about missing data in Pentagon files and highlighted credible reports from military pilots, while also considering alternative explanations including military testing programs. The conversation touched on historical perspectives on UFOs, including experiences from the 1950s, and mentioned ongoing congressional efforts to protect whistleblowers who come forward with UAP information. The group discussed various topics related to space exploration and UAPs. Barbara shared insights about Mike Gold’s work on NASA’s UAP study and Bigelow Aerospace’s involvement. The conversation then shifted to potential new propulsion technologies, with Leonard mentioning a company called Exodus that is developing innovative space travel solutions. David referred to a podcast interview with Eric Weinstein, who discussed how conventional scientific constraints may limit our understanding of space travel, propulsion, and extraterrestrial life. The conversation ended with a discussion about a new book by Steve Benner that critiques how science handled the Viking data on Mars. The group discussed Eric Weinstein, with Bill describing him as intelligent but having a persecution complex as an outsider to physics, while John Jossy mentioned Weinstein’s technical paper on unified field theory. Leonard shared her experience filming with Buzz Aldrin for a new documentary and mentioned an upcoming story about a potentially significant finding on Venus. The conversation concluded with Leonard describing her childhood experience witnessing a black triangle-shaped object, which she believes was a classified U.S. aircraft based on information from Bill Scott, though John Hunt expressed skepticism about the alien origin theory. Special thanks to our sponsors: American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics , Helix Space in Luxembourg , Celestis Memorial Spaceflights , Astrox Corporation , Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University , The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy , The Atlantis Project , and Artless Entertainment We use Zoom phone numbers for program participation. For real time program participation , email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.com for instructions and access. The Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use: To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org . If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to: One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135 Upcoming Programs: Broadcast 4584: Zoom: Jules Ross with co-host John Jossy | Tuesday 01 Sep 2026 700PM PT Guests: Jules Ross Zoom: Jules Ross is the CEO & lead designer of Joules Space Technology which focuses on artificial gravity and space station. John Jossy is our Co-host for this program. Broadcast 4586: Hotel Mars with Dr. Craig DeForest | Wednesday 02 Sep 2026 930AM PT Guests: John Batchelor , Dr. David Livingston , Dr. Craig DeForest Hotel Mars with Dr. Craig DeFores re space weather forecasts and the PUNCH Program Friday, Sept. 4, 2026: No Show. Labor Day Holiday Weekend | Friday 04 Sep 2026 930AM PT Guests: Dr. David Livingston No program due to Labor Day Holiday Weekend Sunday, Sept. 6, 2026: No program due to Labor Day Holiday Weekend | Sunday 06 Sep 2026 1200PM PT Guests: Dr. David Livingston No program due to Labor Day Holiday Weekend Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

August 28, 20261 hr 25 min

The Space Show Presents Dr. Alan Stern for a New Horizons and much more update!

The Space Show Presents Dr. Alan Stern, Friday, Aug. 28, 2026 Quick Summary The Space Show featured Dr. Alan Stern discussing the New Horizons mission, its recent 11-month hibernation, and ongoing scientific activities in the outer solar system. Stern explained the mission’s budget constraints, which limit ground operations and data return, and the need for additional funding to keep heliospheric instruments running. He detailed the spacecraft’s current position, its study of the Kuiper Belt, and the search for a new flyby target using ground telescopes and the upcoming Roman Space Telescope. Stern shared new findings about Pluto, including evidence of liquid nitrogen flows, and highlighted the diversity of trans-Neptunian objects. The conversation also covered future propulsion technologies like nuclear thermal and fusion, their potential to revolutionize space travel, and the concept of a mission to intercept interstellar comets. Stern answered questions about spacecraft operations, instrument capabilities, and the challenges of deep space communication. Detailed Summary The Space Show welcomed listeners and introduced Dr. Alan Stern, the principal investigator of New Horizons, as the guest for the Friday Space Show. Alan explained that New Horizons hibernated for 11 months from August 2025 to June 2026, during which some subsystems were turned off while others, including three scientific instruments, recorded data continuously. He noted that hibernation was primarily due to budget constraints, as sufficient funding was not available to staff mission control year-round or operate all scientific instruments. Our guest explained that New Horizons has three scientific instruments: a dust detector studying Kuiper Belt dust distribution, and two plasma spectrometers measuring the Sun’s outer heliosphere. The spacecraft can perform targeted flybys like the 2019 encounter with Arrokoth, with plans to search for another flyby target using ground-based telescopes and potentially the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope. Alan clarified that the mission’s operational lifespan is limited by the spacecraft’s nuclear power supply, which will lose power around 2050, rather than communication range issues, making it impossible to continue operations beyond that time. Alan provided updates on New Horizons’ current position at 66 astronomical units from the sun and discussed the mission’s trajectory toward the galactic center direction, similar to the Voyagers but in the plane of the solar system. He explained that New Horizons will likely leave the Kuiper Belt within the next 7 years, depending on its extent, and shared recent discoveries about Pluto’s Sputnik Planitia glacier showing evidence of liquid nitrogen flow. Alan highlighted budget constraints affecting the mission, noting they need additional funding to staff mission control and keep heliospheric instruments operational, as data transmission requires significant human oversight to manage the spacecraft and deep space network coordination. Discussed in detail, the New Horizons mission and its capabilities, highlighting that the Roman telescope would be crucial for their current search as it offers 50 times the capability of James Webb for this type of exploration. When asked about the impact of AI on spacecraft design, Alan explained that while AI could help speed up processes and reduce risks today, it was not available during New Horizons’ design in the early 2000s, though the spacecraft remains fully functional after nearly 21 years. Alan also provided details about the Arrokoth flyby, explaining they passed at a distance of a few thousand miles and that Arrokoth measures about 35 kilometers in length, and confirmed that New Horizons continues to collaborate with Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab for mission control and spacecraft operations. Alan discussed the surprising diversity of Kuiper Belt objects, explaining that these dwarf planets exhibit greater diversity in parameters like composition, satellites, and reflectivity than the terrestrial planets. He recommended a mission to Triton as it would provide insights into Pluto while also allowing study of the Neptune system with better instrumentation than Voyager. When asked about the chemical composition, Alan described three main categories: objects with super-volatile ice like molecular nitrogen and carbon monoxide, those with organic molecules, and water ice balls similar to giant planet satellites. Alan also shared his experience flying on Virgin Galactic’s spacecraft in 2023 and discussed how Starship would be a gamechanger for future planetary missions, particularly enabling human colonization of Mars and other missions that weren’t possible before. The importance of nuclear propulsion systems for space exploration was talked about, explaining that while chemical rockets are necessary for Earth launch, nuclear fission and fusion systems could significantly reduce transit times across the solar system. He highlighted that nuclear systems offer specific impulses 10-100 times higher than chemical rockets, with fusion drives potentially enabling travel to Pluto in under a year. The group discussed specific technical details about nuclear thermal propulsion, with Alan recommending that interested parties consult NASA’s development plans and the Helicity Space website for more information. At the end of the discussion, Alan offered to provide contact information for Stephane Lintner, CEO of Helicity Space, for potential media opportunities. Bill proposed an idea for the end-of-life operation of the Voyager spacecraft, suggesting that when it can no longer point at Earth, it could be put into a tumble to transmit an intermittent carrier wave signal. Alan explained that while the concept was interesting, the Voyager high-gain antenna’s narrow beam would likely make successful Earth communication intermittent once it loses tracking ability. Alan also discussed his work on fusion propulsion systems for spacecraft and mentioned plans for a potential NASA mission to intercept interstellar comets, which would require rapid response capabilities. The group discussed the temporary naming of Ultima Thule and its eventual formal naming process. Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

August 26, 20261 hr 13 min

The Space Show Presents Dr. Tiffany Hennessa Of The NRL and the ISS National Lab On Microbial Research

The Space Show Presents Dr. Tiffany Hennessa, Friday, 8-14-26. Meeting Summary This Space Show live broadcast interviewed Dr. Tiffany Hennessa, a research biologist at the Naval Research Lab (NRL) who studies microbial research for space applications. Dr. Hennessy discussed her work using microbes and fungi like Aspergillus in space experiments, including missions to the ISS and Artemis I to the moon, where she studies how microgravity affects microbial growth, nutrient uptake, and the production of specialized compounds. We talked about technical challenges of conducting experiments in space, including hardware limitations, sample size restrictions, and the need for simplicity in design to accommodate astronauts’ time constraints. Dr. Hennessa explained that space biology research is highly competitive and difficult to fund, with costs being a significant factor in project planning. The discussion also touched on potential applications for defense and biomanufacturing, as well as future opportunities with commercial space stations and robotic laboratories. Detailed Summary Tiffany discussed her journey from plant science PhD at the University of Maryland to her current work at NRL on space biology research. She explained how she was initially tasked with working on the Artemis I program, ISS experiments, and Antarctic balloon experiments. When asked about the types of microbes used in space research, Tiffany clarified that “microbes” was a blanket term for microorganisms like yeast, fungi, and bacteria, and explained that the choice of organism depends on the research question and factors like feasibility, safety, and hardware compatibility with space environments. Tiffany explained a space mission where her team sent Aspergillus niger spores to the moon on Artemis I, packed in gelatin capsules with phase-changing media to allow germination during the two-week journey. The experiment was designed to be passive, with the fungi growing in microgravity while experiencing gamma radiation, though no cameras were included to capture the process in real time. David asked about the medical implications of Aspergillus niger, to which Tiffany confirmed it can cause health issues for immunocompromised individuals, though it is generally tolerable for healthy people. Tiffany discussed the potential for finding fungi on other planets, noting their 50% genomic homology with humans and their resilience to extreme conditions, including high temperatures and radiation. She explained how microgravity affects fluid behavior and nutrient transport in cells, leading to altered growth rates and phenotypes. When asked by John Jossy about the potential benefits of artificial gravity, Tiffany suggested it could help mitigate these issues but also highlighted how microgravity forces organisms to adapt and produce specialized compounds. Marshall discussed the potential use of amino acid chirality as a methodology to determine whether organisms are space-sourced or Earth-sourced, noting how radiation exposure could cause mutations in amino acids. Tiffany explained that while the International Space Station (ISS) is shielded from most radiation, UV radiation could potentially introduce mutations in organisms like fungi and algae. When asked about conducting research in space labs, Tiffany expressed interest in the potential benefits, particularly for fresh sample processing, though she noted personal challenges with space travel due to motion sickness. Tiffany discussed the challenges of space biology research, explaining that while Aspergillus niger is a reliable organism for their experiments, she hadn’t considered exploring other organisms due to comfort with the current setup. She described their work on engineering microbes to produce specialized chemicals and biomaterials for potential biomanufacturing in space, which could strengthen domestic supply chains. Tiffany noted that space biology research faces significant competition for funding, making it challenging to secure resources for these types of projects. Our guest discussed her work in space biology, explaining that while her research doesn’t currently focus on human biology during pregnancy or space settlement, she is interested in producing novel chemicals and compounds that could potentially be used for medicine. She described her day-to-day activities as primarily involving engineering yeast to produce chemicals of interest and conducting strain characterization, with some omics-based research being handled by others. When asked about responding to criticisms of space spending, Tiffany indicated she hasn’t encountered negative views but would emphasize the unique opportunity to work with astronauts and send samples to space. She also explained that her research only involves non-toxic BSL Level 1 organisms due to safety constraints. David and Tiffany discussed the purpose of studying organisms in space to understand their responses and potential adaptations that could benefit human health in Earth’s environment. Tiffany explained that certain compounds produced in microgravity could lead to beneficial mutations and adaptations that could protect astronauts and future warfighters. When asked about launch costs, Tiffany indicated she was not privy to specific cost details, though she acknowledged that space missions are expensive and costs vary based on payload size and complexity. Tiffany also shared her experience attending launches at Kennedy Space Center, including the Artemis and Starlink missions, though she noted that schedule delays required multiple visits. Tiffany further explained that simplicity is crucial when designing space experiments due to hardware limitations and astronauts’ tight schedules. She noted that while simple experiments can be successful, complexity constraints limit what can be accomplished in current space labs. Tiffany expressed optimism that robotic labs in future commercial stations could enable more complex experiments, allowing researchers to monitor and control them remotely. In summary, Dr. Hennessa discussed her work on microbial research in space, including the use of robotic systems to handle samples and the importance of considering sample size and space limitations. She expressed interest in testing samples at different gravity levels and explained her team’s role in the project. The discussion also touched on concerns about potential mutations in space and the feasibility of bringing samples back to Earth. David and the team discussed upcoming Space Show programs and topics, including a show on quantum computing and internet stability. The conversation ended with a brief conversation about Manuel’s research on osteoarthritis in microgravity. Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

August 20, 20261 hr 25 min

The Space Show Presents George Tyson & Orbital Construction Pioneers

The Space Show Presents George Tyson, Tuesday, 7-28-26. The Space Show featured George Tyson, CEO of Orbital Construction Pioneers, discussing his company’s concept for building large orbital structures using additive manufacturing with bio-based materials, primarily plant-based epoxies and fillers like hemp. He detailed the “First Step” project, which aims to create a rotating disk-shaped space station called Station 520, with initial construction relying on materials grown and processed in orbit. Tyson explained the current research phase, focusing on material testing and 3D printing technology, and mentioned partnerships such as with Exo Scientific for life support systems. The conversation covered technical aspects like structural design, launch costs, regulatory considerations, and the long-term goal of establishing an Earth-independent space economy. Tyson also introduced the Interplanetary Regen Network (IRN), a proposed consortium to collaborate on space development. The discussion included questions from co-host John Jossy and other participants about feasibility, timelines, and potential applications of the technology. George discussed his experience from 2005 when he participated in a space tourism assessment, finding that while there was public interest, it wasn’t sufficient to support expensive space tourism flights. He advised companies like XCOR to focus on flying scientific experiments multiple times before sending them to the ISS, which XCOR had planned to implement before other issues arose. The discussion also covered current space tourism status, with John noting that Virgin is not doing well and Blue Origin has shifted focus, while SpaceX is doing some tourism but not much, and George expressing interest in stratosphere balloon rides as a more viable luxury tourism option. The group discussed their experiences with early television technology, particularly watching the Apollo landings on black and white TVs. They shared personal anecdotes about watching the moon landings in various locations, from hotel rooms to living rooms, and compared these experiences to modern large-screen TVs and electronic devices. The conversation also touched on advancements in electronics, including high-speed oscilloscopes, with Marshall sharing a story about purchasing a $250,000 oscilloscope for work at TI. George Tyson, CEO of Orbital Construction Pioneers, was our main guest. His large program focused on his flagship “First Step” project, which involves building Station 520 - a 320-meter diameter orbital station that will use additive manufacturing with biological materials grown in orbit to create panels and structures. The station will be constructed using about seven vehicles the size of Starship, with initial framework and plants lifted from Earth, and will serve as a manufacturing hub producing fresh water, oxygen, and food while processing waste products from customers. George talked about his company’s development of plant-based biopoxy materials for space construction, explaining that they have tested various formulas including hemp for fillers and are working on 3D printing capabilities. The team discussed their plans for a disc-shaped space station (Station 520) with a 3-meter-thick wall structure that would be hollow with different gravity levels, though specific details about density and mass remain undetermined as they are still in research and testing phases. George outlined their approach to becoming Earth-independent through aquaponics and hydroponics systems that would process waste materials from other stations while providing oxygen, water, and food in exchange for technical support and resources. George explained their 3D printing process using hemp fibers, noting they currently chop fibers to quarter-inch lengths and mix with wood pulp as filler. When asked about launch costs, George indicated they expect costs to eventually reach around $100 per kilogram, similar to what was needed for space manufacturing in 2005, though initial costs will be higher. George confirmed they have experience dealing with regulatory bodies, having previously obtained space flight approval for a training course in 2006-2007, and expressed confidence in working with the FAA to navigate new regulatory challenges for their space manufacturing facility. George explained that his space development project is still in early stages, with ground testing planned before any FAA approvals will be needed. He described his background in mechanical engineering and NASA experience, which led him to form Black Sky Training and later explore 3D printing applications for space development. The team is researching the possibility of using plants for space construction, inspired by a DARPA proposal about growing structures in space. Our guest mentioned his recent presentation at ISDC, noting that while time constraints affected the full presentation, there was significant interest and engagement from attendees, leading to opportunities for further discussions. John Jossy introduced George to Daniel Tompkins and his project, Grow Mars, which involves self-replicating greenhouses using local resources for algae production and 3D printing. George expressed interest in collaborating with Tompkins and requested John share his contact information. George also shared that despite a board member’s resignation, the organization is seeking new members to bring fresh perspectives and challenge existing assumptions. George explained the construction process for building a space station, describing how they would use a metal frame (called Stelimer) to create a structure that could be shipped from Earth, which would then be sheeted with the same material. He clarified that while current stations would use 3D printing within a framework, future stations would print beams and frames directly and confirmed that the 3D printers could operate in vacuum conditions without requiring gravity. The discussion also covered surface texture options for the 3D-printed materials, with George suggesting several methods including spray guns and specialized formulas for smoother finishes. George also shared plans for Station 520, emphasizing the importance of developing robotics for operations like sheeting and farming to minimize human involvement. He mentioned collaborating with Exo Scientific on a regenerative life support system and expressed interest in connecting with other private space station companies. George also noted that a revised business plan, including a clearer roadmap, would be published soon, potentially for submission to the ISDC business plan competition. John Jossy proposed collaborating on a blog post about space settlement progress, to which George agreed. The discussion concluded with George sharing ideas about large rotating space stations for long-duration missions, including concepts for growing food and raising animals. Special thanks to our sponsors: American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics , Helix Space in Luxembourg , Celestis Memorial Spaceflights , Astrox Corporation , Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University , The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy , The Atlantis Project , and Artless Entertainment We use Zoom phone numbers for program participation. For real time program participation , email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.com for instructions and access. The Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use: To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org . If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to: One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135 Upcoming Programs: Broadcast 4579 Zoom: Amir Notea, Shar Bahiri, Fred Simon | Friday 21 Aug 2026 930AM PT Guests: Amir Notea , Shar Bahiri , Fred Simon Zoom: Our guests discuss the Israeli company Moonshot.space and more Broadcast 450 Zoom: Open Lines Discussion | Sunday 23 Aug 2026 1200PM PT Guests: Dr. David Livingston Zoom: Open Lines Discussion. Join us if you can. Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

August 19, 20261 hr 50 min

The Space Show Presents John Hunt on the release of UAP documents at of June 2, 2026

John Hunt meets The Wisdom Team: UAP/UFO Analysis are ready! June 2, 2026, Tuesday This meeting was a John Hunt led Space Show discussion focused on analyzing UAP (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena) videos and documents released by the government following President Trump’s executive order. John Hunt, the guest expert, demonstrated several videos from the Arrow system that showed infrared detections of unidentified objects, explaining that these were classified as unidentified even though some could potentially be explained as flares or other known objects. The group discussed whether the released materials represented genuine secrets or mostly old declassified information, with John noting that deeply classified documents likely remain hidden and may never be fully disclosed. They also examined claims by Congress members about having seen classified evidence of extraterrestrial visits, discussing how such statements might be interpreted and the potential security risks involved. The conversation included technical details about military sensor systems, redacted data in the released videos, and various theories about UAP origins and government motivations for maintaining secrecy. John showed UAP videos from the Arrow system during the meeting, explaining that these videos show heat signatures detected by aircraft infrared systems but have been redacted to remove technical data about sensor capabilities. He clarified that the government classifies these videos as UAP not because of the objects themselves but because of the advanced sensor technology revealed, which could potentially benefit adversaries like China. John noted that while some deeply classified information may exist, the released documents appear to be mostly old material from the Arrow system rather than new revelations, and expressed doubt about whether truly sensitive information would be easily disclosed. The group discussed recent interviews with Congress members claiming to have seen classified information about extraterrestrials, with John noting that while these claims walk a narrow line regarding security protocols, no one has been prosecuted for UFO-related security violations. They examined the case of Dylan Borland, who allegedly faced harassment after witnessing a UAP at an airbase, leading him to become a whistleblower. The conversation concluded with speculation about whether intelligence agencies are trying to hide alien technology or both alien technology and national security information. The group also discussed the lack of verified alien crash debris and government transparency regarding UFO incidents. John explained that while some recovery sites like Roswell and Aztec occurred before government intervention, no tangible evidence has been publicly confirmed for analysis. The discussion touched on potential motivations for keeping information classified, including bureaucratic inertia, historical concerns about public reaction, and the possibility of reverse-engineering technology. Marshall suggested that congressional claims about classified information might serve as disinformation to deter adversaries, while John proposed that the Department of Energy holds the real secrets about propulsion technologies. John presented and analyzed various UAP footage and incidents, including the Rendlesham Forest case and videos from military surveillance. The group discussed a particular video showing an object that some debunkers believe could be a flare, though John noted the object lasted much longer than typical flares would. Marshall suggested the object could have been created as a diversion, and the group acknowledged that more contextual information would be needed to definitively identify the object, as much of the relevant data was redacted from the footage. Our guest also presented footage of military encounters with unidentified objects, including a Hellfire missile test and a Chinese balloon shootdown, to demonstrate how missiles interact with balloons. The group discussed a Syrian UAP video that showed an object accelerating away when tracked, with Marshall noting the absence of an exhaust plume. David expressed skepticism about the recently released documents, suggesting they contained little substantive information and comparing the situation to previous leaked content. Hunt talked about recent UAP releases and expressed optimism about the quality of the evidence, particularly highlighting a video that showed promising details. The group analyzed various UAP footage, including instances where aircraft appeared to be chasing unidentified objects, with Marshall questioning whether the quality and granularity of the data matched what would be expected from military analysis. The conversation concluded with David asking about whistleblower commentary on the quality of data being shared publicly, though this topic was not fully addressed in the transcrip John presented and analyzed recent UAP footage releases, discussing various interpretations of the objects captured, including some appearing to move through windmills and potentially interact with water. The group discussed the mixed reactions from UAP community members, with some viewing the releases as a positive step while others considered them trivial. John concluded that while the released footage likely shows real UAPs, particularly small orbs and possibly saucers, the evidence would not be convincing to skeptics like Mick West. The group discussed the potential for artificial intelligence, specifically Claude and OpenAI, to analyze UAP data. David suggested using AI to evaluate the released data, though no one was aware of anyone having done so yet. Marshall presented a theory about space aliens potentially avoiding Earth due to its location in a super bubble with fewer stars, making it less attractive for alien expansion compared to galactic arms. The conversation also touched on challenges with protecting websites from large language models and the possibility of advanced propulsion technologies that might allow unseen alien visits. John discussed his investigation into UFO phenomena, explaining that while he initially approached the topic with skepticism, he became concerned when government agencies appeared to be taking UAP incidents seriously, including cases involving nuclear weapons. He analyzed the claims made by Lou Elizondo and other witnesses, noting that Elizondo had testified under oath and raised concerns about illegal funding mechanisms and lack of proper congressional briefings. The group discussed the challenges of government transparency on UAPs, with David questioning how agencies could resist presidential directives and Marshall drawing parallels to J. Edgar Hoover’s secret file practices. David and Marshall discussed concerns about the credibility of reports regarding alien encounters, emphasizing the challenges of verifying information due to modern surveillance capabilities and the potential for manipulation. They explored questions about how extraterrestrial beings might handle radiation in nuclear environments, comparing it to the lingering effects of human nuclear testing sites. The conversation concluded with a suggestion to visit the nuclear test site in Nevada for a better understanding of radiation effects, though John expressed doubt about the current technological gap between humans and any potential alien visitors. The group discussed recent developments in UAP/unidentified aerial phenomena, with John noting that while there has been progress over nine years, the situation remains limited. David expressed interest in potentially doing a space show tour of nuclear test sites in Las Vegas and encouraged John to keep the group updated on any new information about UAP. The conversation concluded with an extended discussion about ancient texts and religious interpretations of extraterrestrial life, where David shared insights from his conversations with a Chabad rabbi about deeper meanings in biblical passages regarding aliens and UFOs. Special thanks to our sponsors: American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics , Helix Space in Luxembourg , Celestis Memorial Spaceflights , Astrox Corporation , Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University , The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy , The Atlantis Project , and Artless Entertainment We use Zoom phone numbers for program participation. For real time program participation , email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.com for instructions and access. The Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use: To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org . 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August 19, 202619 min

Hotel Mars Featuring Doug Messier, John Batchelor and Dr. David Livingston on SpaceX, Starship, demo and flight testing plans as of May 27, 2026

Hotel Mars with Doug Messier, John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston, May 27, 2026, 4542 The meeting reviewed recent progress and plans for the Earth-Moon system, focusing on SpaceX’s Starship 12 mission, which was mostly successful despite engine failures and issues with controlled splashdowns for both stages. Doug Messier discussed ongoing challenges for Starship, including full reusability and orbital refueling, and noted NASA’s reliance on Starship for Artemis III. The conversation covered Blue Origin’s recent NASA contracts for lunar landers and rovers, as well as Firefly Aerospace’s hopper mission to survey the lunar south pole for future base sites. The group discussed NASA’s phased plan for building a moon base, with initial robotic missions leading up to crewed landings and eventually a permanent presence. Participants expressed both optimism about technical progress and caution about the ambitious timelines and risks involved with new companies and unproven systems. The three of us discussed SpaceX’s recent Starship 12 mission, which was mostly successful with the upper stage entering a suborbital orbit and deploying satellites, though the Super Heavy first stage had engine issues and crashed into the Gulf. Doug noted that while progress is being made, the timeline for NASA’s Artemis program is becoming tighter, with the Artemis III mission planned for next year requiring the Starship and Blue Moon landers to be close to final configuration. The discussion highlighted that future missions will need to achieve full reusability and develop orbital fuel depots for lunar missions in 2028. Doug discussed NASA’s requirement for uncrewed lunar landings before sending astronauts to the moon. He provided an update on SpaceX’s 13th flight, noting that engineers are analyzing data from the previous flight and the FAA is reviewing an anomaly where the super heavy did not land as planned in the Gulf. David also shared that NASA selected Blue Origin over SpaceX for a Moon-based mission, including contracts for landing a crewed lander and two rovers in 2028, with each rover contract valued at approximately $238 million. Doug expressed uncertainty about Blue Origin’s ability to meet the aggressive timeline, though he acknowledged their ground testing has progressed n We talked about NASA’s upcoming Artemis III mission announcement on June 9th, which will provide updates on lunar landing vehicles and crew selection. Doug explained that Blue Origin has contracts for rovers and Firefly Aerospace has a contract for four hoppers that JPL is developing to be deployed around Shackleton Crater at the Moon’s South Pole. The hoppers will conduct high-resolution imaging and help determine the size and configuration of a future moon base, with the goal of establishing a permanent base around 2032. The Hotel Mars group discussed NASA’s Moon-Based Phased Implementation plan, which involves multiple phases of lunar landings and equipment delivery to build a permanent moon base by 2022-2023. They mentioned three planned missions later this year with Blue Origin, S-Robotic, and Intuitive Machines. Doug explained that Blue Origin is working on Block 2 Version 2, which will be capable of supporting four people on the moon’s surface for 30 days. Doug mentioned the timeline for establishing a Moonbase, outlining three phases: initial habitat and equipment delivery (Phase 1), more intense operations (Phase 2), and a permanent base (Phase 3). He explained that while the human program depends on when private companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin are ready to carry astronauts to the lunar surface, significant testing and development are needed in the next few years, including docked operations with the Orion spacecraft and test landings. Skepticism was expressed about meeting the 2027-2028 timeline for human landings, citing risks due to the young and relatively unproven nature of the companies involved. Special thanks to our sponsors: American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics , Helix Space in Luxembourg , Celestis Memorial Spaceflights , Astrox Corporation , Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University , The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy , The Atlantis Project , and Artless Entertainment We use Zoom phone numbers for program participation. For real time program participation , email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.com for instructions and access. The Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use: To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org . If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to: One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135 Upcoming Programs: Broadcast 4579 Zoom: Amir Notea, Shar Bahiri, Fred Simon | Friday 21 Aug 2026 930AM PT Guests: Amir Notea , Shar Bahiri , Fred Simon Zoom: Our guests discuss the Israeli company Moonshot.space and more Broadcast 450 Zoom: Open Lines Discussion | Sunday 23 Aug 2026 1200PM PT Guests: Dr. David Livingston Zoom: Open Lines Discussion. Join us if you can. Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

August 18, 20261 hr 36 min

The Space Show Presents Lisa La Bonte, Sunday, 2 August 2026.

The Space Show Presents Lisa La Bonte, Sunday, 8-2-26. Quick summary The Sunday Space Show featured Lisa LaBonte discussing the rapid growth of national space agencies worldwide, with approximately 90 countries now having space programs primarily in emerging and developing markets. LaBonte presented data showing how these agencies are focused on using space for economic development, infrastructure building, and addressing national needs rather than pursuing prestige missions. The discussion covered how these emerging space nations are collaborating with established programs like China’s lunar missions, using services like Starlink for connectivity, and developing their own launch capabilities. Participants explored topics including IP protection challenges for foreign investors, the role of STEM education in these countries, and how political risks affect business opportunities. The conversation also touched on cultural differences in how failure is perceived in different countries and the varying levels of public interest in space exploration. Detailed Summary: The conversation focused on space agencies, where Lisa explained that approximately 80-90 countries have space agencies, including both national agencies and international consortiums like ESA. Lisa presented on the growth of national space agencies, highlighting how these agencies have expanded exponentially in emerging markets over the past decade. She explained that these space programs serve as economic development tools, providing infrastructure, connectivity, and job opportunities, particularly in Africa where they are transformational rather than just supportive of growth. Lisa noted significant international collaborations emerging, including a first-of-its-kind partnership between the African Space Agency and China for lunar exploration at the South Pole. Our guest discussed the growing global space economy, noting that most countries are embracing private enterprises for economic development rather than state-driven approaches, with some implementing startup contests and incubators. STEM education was brought up by telling us how it is being integrated into school systems in various countries, with Bahrain specifically highlighting this initiative. Lisa emphasized that while space programs are driven by national goals rather than profit motives, they are building infrastructure that will eventually support economic development and generate revenue through tax dollars and other funding sources. Lisa provided a detailed overview of space activities across different continents, focusing on Africa as an example where countries like Egypt, Algeria, Morocco, South Africa, Kenya, and Nigeria are engaging in various space applications including Earth observation, agriculture monitoring, and communications. Dr. Ajay raised concerns about declining U.S. interest in space compared to growing interest in emerging markets, questioning how to participate in these opportunities. Our guest responded that while U.S. space interest may be declining, NASA remains influential globally and emerging markets like the UAE have significant budgets, noting a $34 billion total budget for UAE space initiatives. We discussed how political competition between nations, particularly between the US and China, does not significantly impact space collaboration, as countries prioritize their national space program goals over political alliances. She provided examples of countries like UAE working with both US and Chinese programs simultaneously and noted that developing nations are primarily focused on establishing sovereign space capabilities rather than relying on others. She also explained that many developing and emerging nations are currently using Starlink for satellite connectivity, though the long-term strategy for building their own satellite capabilities remains uncertain. Lisa emphasized that the US needs to recognize it is not the only player in the space industry and should collaborate with emerging and developing nations. He noted that countries like China and India have been active in space for some time, and China has been particularly engaged in infrastructure development in Africa through initiatives like the Belt and Road. Lisa expressed hope that NASA would leverage its global reputation to partner with these nations, particularly given that over 60 countries have signed up for the Artemis Accords. The discussion also touched on the potential for space-based solar power and AI integration in these countries’ space programs, though Carnegie admitted he was not an expert on these topics. Dr. Ajay inquired about Saudi Arabia’s space initiatives following his recent visit. The group discussed how emerging nations are approaching space, explaining that while human spaceflight is a goal for many countries, most are still in early stages and focusing on basic satellite launches rather than aggressive defense programs. Lisa advised that any space investment should prioritize strong IP protection mechanisms and legal frameworks in the target country, noting that UAE lacks adequate IP protection despite its space activities. The discussion concluded with Joe raising a question about whether national space programs could generate national pride and encourage youth interest in engineering and technical fields. We talked about the varying levels of engineering talent across different countries, particularly highlighting robust STEM education in Saudi Arabia and UAE due to their oil and gas industries. He explained that while these countries produce skilled engineers, the lack of established infrastructure for protecting intellectual property and supporting technology startups creates challenges for entrepreneurs. It was noted that many talented engineers choose to work in countries with better IP protection and startup support systems, rather than returning to their home countries. Lisa discussed the challenges of political risk in international business, noting that unexpected events like the Arab Spring and recent conflicts with Iran can significantly impact operations. When asked about opportunities in emerging economies versus developed countries and advised that while opportunities exist abroad, young engineers should carefully consider their adaptability and cultural readiness, as many countries prioritize hiring locals first. She emphasized the importance of having strong character and tolerance for ambiguity when considering international opportunities. Lisa advised David that the key factor in deciding whether to pursue an overseas opportunity is not the specific opportunity itself, but rather whether the person can adapt to the cultural and environmental challenges of the destination. She emphasized the importance of having the right personality traits, including fortitude and the ability to get out of one’s comfort zone, particularly when dealing with different cultures and potentially difficult working conditions. Lisa shared her own experience working in the Middle East, explaining how she navigated cultural differences as a woman by maintaining professional behavior and dress standards, which helped her be treated with respect in the region. Carnegie discussed cultural attitudes toward animals in different regions, noting that while dogs are considered unclean in some Muslim countries, they are widely loved in Japan. She shared that interest in space exploration, particularly Mars colonization, is limited among people she knows, though SpaceX and Elon Musk are still respected in the Middle East. She explained that failure is perceived differently across cultures, with risk aversion being higher in many countries compared to the Western approach of learning from failures. She revealed that her STEM and space education programs in the Middle East have been successful, particularly in engaging girls in engineering, though she has since shifted focus away from space education due to bureaucratic challenges. The group discussed space programs around the world, with our guest highlighting unexpected space activities in countries like Croatia and Romania, particularly noting Romania’s satellite program driven by educational institutions rather than government agencies. Lisa explained that budget constraints and existing partnerships with established space agencies like SpaceX make it unlikely for countries like Saudi Arabia and UAE to develop their own reusable rockets. The conversation also covered her current location in the US due to weather conditions in Saudi Arabia, and plans for future meetings with participants in locations like Las Vegas. Special thanks to our sponsors: American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics , Helix Space in Luxembourg , Celestis Memorial Spaceflights , Astrox Corporation , Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University , The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy , The Atlantis Project , and Artless Entertainment We use Zoom phone numbers for program participation. For real time program participation , email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.com for instructions and access. The Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use: To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org . If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to: One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135 Upcoming Programs: Tuesday, August 18, 2026: No program today | Tuesday 18 Aug 2026 700PM PT Guests: Dr. David Livingston No program today. Broadcast 4578 Hotel Mars featuring Rohan Naidu on the black hole star discovery | Wednesday 19 Aug 2026 930AM PT Guests: John Batchelor , Dr. David Livingston , Rohan Naidu Hotel Mars Featuring Rohan Naidu on the newly discovered black hole star Broadcast 4579 Zoom: Amir Notea, Shar Bahiri, Fred Simon | Friday 21 Aug 2026 930AM PT Guests: Amir Notea , Shar Bahiri , Fred Simon Zoom: Our guests discuss the Israeli company Moonshot.space and more Broadcast 450 Zoom: Open Lines Discussion | Sunday 23 Aug 2026 1200PM PT Guests: Dr. David Livingston Zoom: Open Lines Discussion. Join us if you can. Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

August 17, 20261 hr 28 min

The Space Show Presents SpaceComputer with CEO Daniel Bar and CTO Filip Rezabek On Quantum, space stable internet, post-quantum cyber and more.

The Space Show Presents SpaceComputer With Daniel Bar & Filip Rezabek, Sunday 8-16-26 This Space Show interview program featuring Daniel Bar and Filip Rezabek from SpaceComputer, a company developing secure computing infrastructure for space-based internet located in Australia. Daniel, based in Australia, and Filip, based in Germany, explained their SpaceFabric technology, which creates a secure computing architecture in space that generates cryptographic keys after satellites reach orbit and provides mutual attestation between independent secure stations. The company is preparing for their first launch in October 2026 on an unnamed mission, with two additional launches planned for 2027. They also discussed their post-quantum security features, multi-tenancy capabilities, and plans to operate across 5-7 communication layers similar to the TCP/IP stack. The technology aims to address current security gaps in space communications, where recent research found 50% of space communications are transmitted unencrypted, and enables verifiable data transmission from spacecraft to Earth with cryptographic attestation. Our guests discussed their backgrounds, with Daniel sharing his Israeli heritage and connection to the Israeli Air Force, while Filip and The Space Show Dream Team were introduced by their professional backgrounds in engineering and agriculture. Our guests from SpaceComputer said they would be addressing relevant topics based on their work on developing a stable internet, quantum computing security, and post-quantum encryption. We began with a discussion about SpaceComputer’s technology called Space Fabric, with John Jossy sharing a link to a related paper on David’s Space Show blog. Daniel and Filip introduced themselves as co-founders of SpaceComputer, a company developing secure hardware and software infrastructure for space internet. They clarified that while their work is inspired by NASA’s efforts in a secure space internet, they have not yet started working with NASA directly. The company aims to create secure interconnectivity systems for space-based data centers, enabling proper workload segregation and software isolation, with their Space Fabric hardware set to be integrated aboard a satellite launching in October. The Space Show Wisdom Team discussed their SpaceFabric architecture, which aims to provide a software stack for space internet communication that goes beyond physical layer capabilities like Starlink. Filip explained that SpaceFabric would consist of 5-7 communication layers similar to TCP/IP stack, with the first mission launching in October as their first step toward space heritage. The team cannot yet reveal the launch partner or details about the mission due to pending spacecraft clearance and partner sensitivities, with full details expected to be announced around end of September. Filip explained their company’s focus on building space-native computer services and hardware for spacecraft, emphasizing their software development capabilities with hardware components that enable secure, multi-tenant computing in space. The system includes a hardware component providing root of trust, a software stack, and a Satellite Execution Assurance Protocol that verifies computations are happening in space through challenge-response between ground stations and satellites. When asked about their company’s focus, Filip clarified they are primarily a software development company with a hardware team that develops embedded systems and PCBs, rather than building spacecraft or rockets. Special thanks to our sponsors: American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics , Helix Space in Luxembourg , Celestis Memorial Spaceflights , Astrox Corporation , Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University , The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy , The Atlantis Project , and Artless Entertainment We use Zoom phone numbers for program participation. For real time program participation , email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.com for instructions and access. The Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use: To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org . If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to: One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135 Upcoming Programs: Tuesday, August 18, 2026: No program today | Tuesday 18 Aug 2026 700PM PT Guests: Dr. David Livingston No program today. Broadcast 4578 Hotel Mars featuring Rohan Naidu on the black hole star discovery | Wednesday 19 Aug 2026 930AM PT Guests: John Batchelor , Dr. David Livingston , Rohan Naidu Hotel Mars Featuring Rohan Naidu on the newly discovered black hole star Broadcast 4579 Zoom: Amir Notea, Shar Bahiri, Fred Simon | Friday 21 Aug 2026 930AM PT Guests: Amir Notea , Shar Bahiri , Fred Simon Zoom: Our guests discuss the Israeli company Moonshot.space and more Broadcast 450 Zoom: Open Lines Discussion | Sunday 23 Aug 2026 1200PM PT Guests: Dr. David Livingston Zoom: Open Lines Discussion. Join us if you can. 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