The Short Term Show

Hosted by 8 Figure Airbnb and Short Term Rental Real Estate Investor Avery Carl

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Nov 2026

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The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental (Airbnb) investing and management. Host Avery Carl interviews successful real estate investors and CEOs of Airbnb related startups to bring inspirational and actionable content to listeners. Whether you are an experienced Airbnb investor or co-host, or you’re just getting started, The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental content. About the host: Avery Carl bought her first Airbnb in 2015, and has since built a portfolio of over 250 doors, is the author of bestseller Short Term Rental, Long Term wealth, and is the CEO and Founder of The Short Term Shop, the country’s largest Airbnb-specific real estate team, with over 5,000 Airbnb investors served in 20 markets. The Short Term Shop has been named the #1 team worldwide at EXP 3x, has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Forbes, and USA Today.

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November 11, 202627 min

Free Property Management Software for DIY Landlords with Dave Spooner

Avery Carl sits down with Dave Spooner, co-founder of Innago, a free property management platform built for small and mid-size DIY landlords. Dave shares how he went from student-housing startup to landlord with 15 units in Cincinnati, how he handles short-term rentals in the same buildings as long-term tenants, and the three ingredients a market needs for midterm rentals to work. He also explains how Innago makes money while charging landlords nothing, who the platform is not a fit for, and why hospitality is the one thing long-term landlords should steal from short-term hosts. Connect with Dave: https://innago.com Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon

November 4, 202625 min

Airbnb’s New Rules Could Leave Hosts Exposed with Katie Johnson

Avery is joined by Katie Johnson, an STR attorney, to break down Airbnb’s latest policy changes and what they could mean for short-term rental owners. Katie explains the potential impact of restrictions on rental agreements, guest ID verification, background checks, guest data collection, and enforceability of house rules, while highlighting legal exceptions and areas where Airbnb’s policies remain unclear. They also discuss the bigger concerns around liability, insurance coverage, property safety, and whether Airbnb’s new restrictions could create legal exposure of their own. Katie closes with practical steps hosts can take to protect themselves, including reviewing their insurance policies, checking LLC structures, inspecting decks and other potential hazards, and ensuring carbon monoxide detectors are properly installed. How to connect with Katie: @strlaw.with.katie strlaw.com katiejohnsonplc.com How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon

October 28, 202627 min

His Builder Went Bankrupt but His Rental Still Won with Nick Hausmann

On this week's episode, Avery is joined by Nick Hausmann, a short-term rental investor and co-host who built a vacation rental in Fort Morgan, Alabama, from 800 miles away. Nick shares the challenges of his first remote construction project, including a nine-month permitting process, his original builder going bankrupt, lost funds, and a project that stretched from an expected nine months to 22 months. Despite the setbacks, his property generated $150,000 in gross revenue during its first year, and he discusses how a refinance allowed him to recapture nearly all of his original down payment. Nick and Avery also talk about the realities of building remotely, researching contractors, navigating land restrictions and setbacks, and standing out in the competitive Gulf Shores market without spending a fortune. Finally, Nick explains his approach to guest experience, why he believes the area has strong investment potential, and how he plans to use his growing co-hosting business to fund future builds and eventually leave his nursing career. Connect with Nick: www.brighthausstays.com Facebook: Bright Haus Stays IG: @BrightHausStays Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon

October 21, 202629 min

Stop Chasing Tactics: Grow Your Direct Bookings with Chantell Hammond

On this week's episode, Avery is joined by Chantell Hammond, founder of Strategy Square, to discuss how short-term rental owners and property managers can grow their businesses through smarter marketing and direct booking strategies. Chantell explains why hosts should stop chasing every new social media trend, marketing tactic, or AI tool and instead look for clues within their own businesses to determine what will actually drive results. She shares how understanding your ideal guest’s motivations can shape everything from property design and marketing messaging to email campaigns, targeted ads, and partnerships with local businesses. Chantell also explains why building an email list and cultivating relationships with local event organizers can create valuable direct booking opportunities, emphasizing that sustainable growth requires intentional effort rather than chasing shortcuts. Connect with Chantell: www.strategysquare.co Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon

October 14, 202637 min

What It Really Takes to Finance an STR With an SBA Loan with Jamie Folk

On this week's episode, Avery is joined by Jamie Folk, a short-term rental investor who owns properties in New Jersey, Maine, and Orlando, Florida. Jamie shares how he acquired an established waterfront rental in Maine that grossed over $100,000 in his first six months of ownership, then purchased a nine-bedroom, themed Orlando vacation home for $980,000 that brought in roughly $70,000–$80,000 in its first few months. He and Avery discuss why Orlando may offer significant opportunities despite concerns about oversaturation, how to stand out with themed bedrooms and standout amenities, and why negotiating on properties that have been sitting on the market can pay off. Jamie also breaks down his experience financing a rental property with an SBA loan, including the lengthy approval process, and explains why he recommends buying an established rental business with a proven track record rather than starting from scratch. Connect with Jamie: Talley's Corner Properties https://www.airbnb.com/hosting/listings/editor/1438369068791073881/view-your-space https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1463233960241486611?guests=1&adults=1&s=67&unique_share_id=87228e3a-7279-4ca2-a28c-1800d1939380 https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1648835351281876391?guests=1&adults=1&s=67&unique_share_id=471021dd-c32d-46bb-80fd-bd9a926a581c Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon

October 7, 202627 min

Are You Actually Paying All Your STR Taxes? with Pam Knudsen

On this week's episode, Avery is joined by Pam Knudsen of Avalara to break down one of the least exciting but most important parts of running a short term rental: staying compliant with lodging and occupancy taxes. Pam explains why STR tax requirements can vary across states, counties, cities, and special jurisdictions, and why using Airbnb, Vrbo, or a property manager does not necessarily mean all of your tax obligations are being handled for you. She also discusses how jurisdictions are using technology and data to identify unlicensed rentals and unpaid taxes, making compliance more important than ever. Avery and Pam walk through how MyLodgeTax helps owners manage licensing, tax calculations, filings, payments, and renewals, while also covering common mistakes, direct bookings, and what can happen when an owner operates outside the rules. Connect with Pam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamknudsen/ https://www.avalara.com/us/en/index.html Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon

September 30, 202629 min

The Future of the Guest Experience Is Smarter Software with Margot Schmorak

Margot Schmorak, CEO and co-founder of Hostfully, joins the show to discuss how property management software is evolving and what hosts should look for when choosing a PMS. She covers Hostfully’s latest developments in home automation, damage protection, accounting, and AI-powered guest communication, including AI that can handle routine guest questions and flag issues that require a host’s attention. Margot also shares why proper onboarding, configuration, and ongoing management are essential to getting the most out of any software platform, along with her advice for creating a better guest experience and growing a short-term rental business. Connect with Margot: Hostfully.com Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon

September 23, 202636 min

Why Orlando STRs Are Not Oversaturated with Christian Walston

On this week's episode, Avery is joined by Christian Walston, an engineer and real estate investor who turned an accidental introduction to short term rentals into a successful investment in the Orlando market. Christian shares how he went from buying his first long term rental for just $33,000 to purchasing a seven-bedroom vacation rental near Disney, which has already exceeded its conservative first-year revenue projections. He breaks down the property's $700,000 purchase price, $75,000 in theming and game-room upgrades, and why he believes Orlando's reputation for oversaturation is overlooking the market's massive tourism demand. Christian also shares the wild story of a guest discovering a disconnected camera hidden in a bedroom, which temporarily led Airbnb to suspend his listing, and discusses what the experience taught him about documenting issues and having a strong support network. Connect with Christian: https://walstonwindsorhills.directstays.com/ Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon

September 16, 202625 min

The Overlooked Revenue Stream for STR Hosts with Ben Levy

Avery is joined by Ben Levy, co-founder and CEO of Localbird, to discuss how short term rental hosts can turn local experiences into an additional revenue stream. Ben shares how a frustrating vacation in Hawaii inspired him to build a concierge platform that makes everything from private chefs and massages to tours, transportation, and rentals easier for guests to discover and book. He explains how Local Bird partners with hosts through revenue sharing, integrates with property management software, and uses personalized, timely recommendations to help hosts capture more of their guests’ spending while providing a better hospitality experience. Avery and Ben also discuss why premium properties have an especially strong opportunity to monetize experiences, how AI is making personalized concierge service scalable, and why responding quickly to guest requests can make a major difference in conversions. Connect with Ben: https://www.localbird.com/ https://www.localbird.com/pages/STR-experiences-2026 Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon

September 9, 202637 min

Why Melissa Nash Started Flipping STRs

Avery is joined by Melissa Nash, founder of Passively Rich with Rentals, to discuss how she built a portfolio of 20 rental properties after starting with just a $15,000 investment. Melissa shares how she uses short-term rentals to make markets like Southern California work, including buying properties that need some attention, turning them into profitable vacation rentals, and even selling them as turnkey businesses. She also explains her “lazy investor” method, why she prioritizes systems and time freedom, and how knowing your target guest can be more valuable than simply trying to maximize the number of people a property sleeps. Avery and Melissa also dive into realistic investment expectations, the importance of understanding your goals, and why consistent “base hits” can build a stronger portfolio than chasing one huge deal. Connect with Melissa: https://www.passivelyrichwithrentals.com/ Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon