The Return: Property & Investment Podcast

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The Return is a podcast for property investors and developers who want to get UK housing deals done, even in a tough market. Getting homes built is harder than ever. Planning delays, rising construction costs, funding gaps and shifting market conditions stop most projects before they start. Learn from investors, developers and policymakers discussing what's happening in the UK housing market right now and how to learn from their experience. Each episode features a real life case study or topic including: planning reform, policy shifts, funding conditions, deal viability, sales, delivery challenges and measuring impact. Hosted by Anna Clare Harper, Director at Pinnacle Investments and author of three best-selling books on residential investing. Her mission is to help mobilise capital to drive the delivery of 10,000 more, better homes by 2030. Join 350,000+ listeners learning how to build, fund and deliver more, better UK housing deals.

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June 4, 2026Episode 322 min

Is Purpose Built Student Accommodation still worth it?

Send us a TextThe share price of the biggest student accommodation provider fell 43% in 12 months - suggesting that confidence in the sector is starting to crack.But in the same period, £4.3 billion was invested into UK Purpose-Built Student Accommodation.So which number is telling the truth?Anna Clare Harper, Director at residential investment manager Pinnacle Investments (part of Hyde, one of the UK's largest Housing Associations with 125,000 homes), and John German, Head of Living Sector Investment at $2tr global investment platform Invesco, break down:Why the old playbook for making money in student accommodation no longer worksWhere demand is actually going - the headline numbers hide a lot - and which university towns to avoidHow core, core-plus and value-add investors should be positioning right nowPBSA has not broken. It has grown up. And the investors who understand the difference will be the ones who outperform the next cycle.Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-german-2437573b/ Host LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annaclareharper/

May 7, 2026Episode 233 min

Is Build to Rent dead?

Send us a TextBuild-to-Rent was meant to fix Britain’s housing crisis.Then everything changed:Interest rates rose.Build costs jumped.New regulations hit.And suddenly, the pipeline slowed.That’s when Single-Family Housing stepped in.In just 3 years, investment grew from £544M to £3.17B.So what’s really happening here?A long-term shift…or investors chasing the next shiny trend?If you’re investing in UK residential, you’re probably flooded with data.What’s harder to find is clear thinking on what it actually means.That’s what this episode is about.Anna Clare Harper, Director at residential investment manager Pinnacle Investments (part of Hyde, one the UK’s largest Housing Associations with 125,000 homes) stand John German, Head of Living Sector Investment at $2tr global investment platform, Invesco, break down:– What BTR and SFH really look like today– Where the money is going (and why)– How regulation is quietly reshaping the marketAnd most importantly:Where to play, what to avoid, and what’s working right now.If this is useful, share it with someone thinking about UK living sector investment.And if there’s a topic you want us to cover next, send it through via the show notes.Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-german-2437573b/Host LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annaclareharper/

April 9, 2026Episode 13 min

Quick Update

Send us a TextThe Return - Format UpdateA quick note from Anna on what is changing and why.After putting a question out to listeners on LinkedIn, a few clear themes came back - so we’re making changes. From next month, The Return becomes a monthly, research-led series. Each episode will distill the key insights around a sector, strategy or market shift - anchored in reports and data from leading advisers - and unpacked in terms of what it actually means for investors. Anna is also bringing on an experienced co-host: a real estate investor with 35 years in the sector.The goal is more clarity, with lower lift.Next episode: out next month.

March 26, 2026Episode 1221 min

From £310k Bingo Hall to £2.3M Homes

Send us a TextMost property developments run late, over budget, or both.Not because developers are lazy.Because they’re running projects without systems.Anjuim Moied approached development differently.Before property, he ran businesses.So when he started developing sites, he treated them the same way:With systems.→ A clearly mapped critical path→ Project management databases→ Software tracking every pound spent in real timeThen he bought a derelict bingo hall in Woolston (Southampton).It had:→ Lapsed planning→ Heritage constraints→ Complex foundationsMany walked away (including the previous owner).Anjuim turned it into 10 flats + a dance studio.→ £310k purchase→ £1.3m build→ £2.3m asset43% return.On time. On budget.In this episode he breaks down the systems he used to deliver this project - and three other ~£2m developments.We’re also joined by Ben Mackett from Lloyds Banking Group, who finances developments every year and shares:→ The warning signs lenders look for→ Where developers’ forecasts usually go wrong→ What separates developers who deliver from those who don’tIf you’re building housing, this episode will change how you run your projects.This episode is in association with (and thanks to) Lloyds:https://www.lloydsbank.com/business/industry-expertise/real-estate.html?utm_source=The+Return&utm_medium=podcast+partnership&utm_campaign=sponsored+episodeGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-mackett-19709184/Host LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annaclareharper/

March 12, 2026Episode 1120 min

Aviva: Funding Stalled Housing Deals

Send us a TextIf you're a developer trying to get homes built right now, you're stuck between two impossible choices:Pay what the landowner needs and lose money on the build. Or offer what the numbers say you can afford - and watch the deal die.Traditional deals are stalling everywhere. Finance and build costs are too high, sales are too slow, and the gap between what a developer can afford to pay for land - and what the landowner will accept - has become a chasm.But developers still want to build profitably, lenders and investors still want to back them, landowners still want to unlock value, and everyone agrees we desperately need more homes. Maybe the problem isn't a lack of motivation - it's that the traditional deal structure is outdated. What if the answer isn't trying to find a motivated seller who can offer cheaper land, or waiting for rates to drop - but structuring the deal itself completely differently, and working with the right kind of investors?In this episode, we're breaking down exactly how to do that, using a real case study of a deal that looked impossible on paper - a car park in Barnet owned by the Local Authority - but it got funded and is getting built anyway - with Sophie White, Regeneration Sector Head at Aviva Capital Partners, and James Scott, Co-founder and COO at Stories. This episode is in association with (and thanks to) Lloyds:https://www.lloydsbank.com/business/industry-expertise/real-estate.html?utm_source=The+Return&utm_medium=podcast+partnership&utm_campaign=sponsored+episodeGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmscott2/https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophie-white-89378a30/Host LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annaclareharper/

February 26, 2026Episode 1025 min

Former Housing Minister: Policy Insights for Investors

Send us a TextI just interviewed a Former Housing Minister And he didn’t hold back. UK housing policy generates headlines daily. For serious UK housing investors and developers, the challenge isn’t keeping up with announcements.It’s knowing which policy signals genuinely matter over the next five to ten years.Lord Gavin Barwell joined the podcast to cut through the noise around UK housing policy, including: → How planning reform is really playing outAnd why sentiment and affordability matter just as much as policy→ The delivery gap: why policy failure is often localAnd how investors and developers can influence outcomes in practice→ Why mainstream housing headlines rarely help investorsAnd how to filter signal from political froth.If you’re investing in, underwriting or developing UK housing with a long-term horizon - and want to stay ahead of political noise - this episode is worth your time.This episode is in association with (and thanks to) Lloyds.https://www.lloydsbank.com/business/industry-expertise/real-estate.html?utm_source=The+Return&utm_medium=podcast+partnership&utm_campaign=sponsored+episodeGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gavinbarwell/Host LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annaclareharper/

February 12, 2026Episode 918 min

Hyde CEO: How Housing Partnerships Really Work

Send us a TextI had to be on my best behaviour for this - interviewing my boss.Andy Hulme is CEO of The Hyde Group One of the largest UK Housing AssociationsWith 125,000 homes(Also my employer)He’s also a former Group MD at LloydsWhere he helped launch Help to Buy.No pressure, then.We covered: - What public-private housing partnerships actually are - Why housing partnerships fail - despite the best intentions - The 3 biggest mistakes (and how to avoid them) - Why “if you're reading the contract, you’re already in trouble.”If you're a developer, investor, housing provider or local authority trying to deliver more homes through partnerships, this episode is a must-listen.This episode is in association with (and thanks to) Lloyds.https://www.lloydsbank.com/business/industry-expertise/real-estate.html?utm_source=The+Return&utm_medium=podcast+partnership&utm_campaign=sponsored+episodeGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-hulme-b9830a23/Host LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annaclareharper/

January 29, 2026Episode 819 min

5 Things Bankable Developers Do

Send us a TextEven if the land was free, many property deals don’t stack.Zombie pricing. Rising costs. More regulations.I asked Nicola Haigh, Head of Real Estate & Housing, Lloyds.Who’s served 10,000+ real estate borrowers.How can developers survive and thrive in the 2020s? She shared 5 things bankable developers Lloyds work with do, including:1. Keep a cash buffer→ Don’t borrow the max.2. Track cash flow weekly→ Avoid nasty surprises.3. Plan multiple exits→ Sell some, hold some.Listen in to hear what banks really want to see from developers right now.This episode is in association with (and thanks to) Lloyds.In association with:https://www.lloydsbank.com/business/industry-expertise/real-estate.html?utm_source=The+Return&utm_medium=podcast+partnership&utm_campaign=sponsored+episodeGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicola-haigh-55941a56/Host LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annaclareharper/

January 15, 2026Episode 722 min

What Works in Supported Housing - with Lloyds Bank

Send us a TextSolving the housing crisis isn’t just about building more.It’s about the right homes, in the right places, for the people who need them most.The sharpest edge of that challenge?Supported housing - for people with learning and physical disabilities, mental health needs and other vulnerabilities. It’s vital - but complex.It demands real care.And let’s be honest: some players are cutting corners.This week on the podcast, we covered what actually works for providers who want to grow without compromising on safety, standards or support.My guests:John Verge – CEO of Golden Lane Housing, Chair of the Learning Disability and Autism Housing NetworkNigel Walker – Head of Social and Supported Housing at Lloyds BankWe cover:→ How to grow when you have a tiny team (and what to say no to)→ What funders really look for - and the common mistakes that block investment→ The biggest missed opportunity: turning empty shops and offices into Supported Living→ How supported housing can save the public £850M+ each year→ Real examples of deals that worked - and how others can do the sameThis episode is for: → Housing providers juggling more rules, upgrades and urgent need → Developers wondering if supported housing is worth exploring → Councils under pressure to meet growing demand → Investors looking to make a difference and a returnP.S. Know someone in housing, investment or the public sector who needs to hear this? Tag them below.This episode is in association with (and thanks to) Lloyds.In association with:https://www.lloydsbank.com/business/industry-expertise/real-estate.html?utm_source=The+Return&utm_medium=podcast+partnership&utm_campaign=sponsored+episodeGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnverge/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nigel-walker-85225886/ Host LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annaclareharper/

January 1, 2026Episode 620 min

Zoopla Exec: Where to Buy, Upgrade or Sell in 2026

Send us a TextI loved recording a no-fluff episode of The Return With Richard Donnell at Zoopla(Source of the best insights in the industry.)The headline?→ Stop investing like it’s 2021.→ Start investing like it’s 2026.We covered what 2025 changes mean for 2026 investors.Then discussed 2026 ‘must-dos’, including:Re-underwrite your portfolio.Assume “normal” rent growth (2-3%).Stress test higher compliance and running costs.Face the London maths.If you want income, be honest.London can work - but mainly as value-add, or very long term.Go where the spread works.Follow yield, not headlines.(We discussed regional cities like Glasgow, Derby.)Decide your stance early.Buy / Build / Upgrade / Sell.Commit to scaling or shrinking.Act like an operator.Sell liability-heavy stock early.Buy only where pricing reflects the cost of capital.This episode is in association with (and thanks to) Lloyds.In association with:https://www.lloydsbank.com/business/industry-expertise/real-estate.html?utm_source=The+Return&utm_medium=podcast+partnership&utm_campaign=sponsored+episodeGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-donnell/Host LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annaclareharper/