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The Proteus Leader Show, hosted by 3 senior leaders at Proteus International (Laird McLean, Erika Andersen, Marie Holive), offers quick, practical support for you as a manager and leader – insights and tools you can use to improve right now.

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August 31, 2026Episode 13227 min

The CEO Shift: Moving from Functional Leadership to Enterprise Leadership #132

Marie Holive sits down with Andrew Kandel, former CEO of New York Interconnect, to explore one of the most important transitions in a leader’s career: moving from functional leadership to enterprise leadership. Drawing on Andrew’s experience across Google, Waze, NBCUniversal, the Olympics, NASCAR, IMG, the NBA, and now New York Interconnect, the conversation looks at what changes when a leader moves from owning a function to carrying responsibility for the whole enterprise. Marie and Andrew discuss how CEOs create clarity, build trust, scale excellence, and learn to lead through others. They also explore the value of trusted advisors — not as a substitute for leadership, but as a mirror and thought partner that can help leaders sharpen their perspective, challenge their assumptions, and make better decisions in moments of complexity. Timestamps: (00:00) Podcast episode starts (02:02) The CEO transition: first feelings (04:19) Learning the business and assessing talent (05:18) Strategy and vision for the business (05:59) Being OK not knowing all the answers (07:50) Building trust with your team (09:10) Functional expertise and letting go (11:13) Importance of humility (13:07) Trusted mirror and advisory support (16:52) Finding the right advisor (21:30) Practical tips for the first 90s in a new leadership role (24:24) Building a support team around you The CEO Shift: Moving from Functional Leadership to Enterprise Leadership Quiz 👉 click here For more Proteus, subscribe to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .

August 17, 2026Episode 13130 min

Beyond Good Governance: What Makes a Board Truly Effective? #131

Marie Holive welcomes back experienced chair, board adviser and author Patrick Dunne to discuss the newly published third edition of his award-winning book, Boards. Boards today are being asked to navigate extraordinary complexity. Directors must oversee risk, contribute to strategy, challenge constructively and make consequential decisions despite incomplete information and constant change. Patrick and Marie explore what has shifted in the boardroom since the book’s earlier editions, why some boards struggle despite having strong governance processes and how chairs can create the conditions for honest debate and better decision-making. They also examine the human side of board effectiveness: trust, behaviour, relationships, role clarity and the ability to disagree without becoming divided. Timestamps: (00:00) Podcast episode starts (02:28) Why was a third edition of Boards published? (04:16) What separates a well-governed board from an effective one (06:59) The secret to good facilitation in board meetings (10:15) Making decisions without complete information: balancing scrutiny and speed (16:53) The Map to Satnav Dilemma (21:54) Practical advice for aspiring board members on how to prepare, contribute or make decisions Mentioned in this episode 👇 Five Generations at Work: how do we win together Cybersecurity for Leaders: What Every CEO and Board Must Know Boards By Patrick Dunne - 3rd Edition 🏆 Proteus Leader Show Ranks #20 in Top 40 Change Management Podcasts For more Proteus, subscribe to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .

July 27, 2026Episode 13013 min

#130 Building a Coaching Culture to Fight Burnout

Kimberly and Erika talk about the the powerful ripple effect even small, consistent coaching behaviors can have throughout an organization - building morale, reducing burnout and improving results. Check out Lotic Systems . Timestamps: (0:00) Podcast episode starts (01:57) What is the ripple effect, and why is it important? (04:09) Positive impacts of a coaching mindset (07:19) Negative impacts when there is no coaching in an organization (09:18) Practical tips for leaders to build a coaching culture 🏆 Proteus Leader Show Ranks #20 in Top 40 Change Management Podcasts . For more Proteus, subscribe to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .

July 13, 2026Episode 12938 min

#129 What Makes Boards Truly Effective and How Do We Assess That Effectiveness?

Marie Holive sits down with Bob Arciniaga, founder of Advisory Board Architects and co-founder of Boardology, to explore what makes boards truly effective and how organizations can assess that effectiveness in a more rigorous and practical way. Bob shares why the strongest boards are intentionally designed around a company’s strategic imperatives, how leaders should think about board composition and contribution, and why measuring engagement, efficiency, and effectiveness can reveal whether a board is genuinely creating value or simply fulfilling its formal role. Listen in for practical, actionable ideas you can use right away to evaluate board performance, strengthen board impact, and build governance that better supports long-term business success. Timestamps: (00:00) Podcast episode starts (02:10) Qualities of a truly effective board (07:43) Insights and foresights in the boardroom (12:16) Facilitation excellence during board meetings (16:49) Process for board members receiving feedback (19:29) Assessing personality traits of potential board members (25:42) Where would you invest money as a CEO? (32:09) Top three tips to improve board effectiveness 🎙️Check out episode E111: Facilitation Excellence 🏆 Proteus Leader Show Ranks #20 in Top 40 Change Management Podcasts For more Proteus, subscribe to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .

June 22, 2026Episode 12822 min

#128 CEO & CFO Insights Recap - What You Might Have Missed

In this special episode of The Proteus Leader Show, Marie Holive brings together some of the most powerful CEO and CFO insights from the first half of the year. Featuring Jason Beesley, CFO of Pattern; Mario Azar, Chairman and CEO of Black & Veatch; Karim Chablaine, CEO of Nesma Mobility; Marie Berthelon, Co-founder and CEO of Rouvenat; Alison Moore, CEO of Chief; and Benita Fitzgerald Mosley, CEO of the U.S. Center for SafeSport, this episode explores what modern leadership really requires. From finance as a strategic business partner to ownership, transformation, purpose-led growth, inclusive leadership, and psychological safety, these leaders offer practical wisdom for building lasting value in a fast-changing world. Timestamps: (00:00) Podcast intro (01:05) How to be a transformational CFO with Jason Beesley (05:51) Delivering critical infrastructure under pressure with Mario Azar (08:01) True transformation in uncertain times with Karim Chaiblaine (12:28) Entrepreneurship, reinvention, and purpose-led growth with Marie Berthelon (15:27) Why women's success in business matters more than ever with Alison Moore (17:12) Safety as a critical element of organizational success with Benita Fitzgerald Mosley Podcast episodes mentioned: 👉 Jason Beesley's episode 👉 Mario Azar episode 👉 Karim Chaiblaine episode 👉 Marie Berthelon episode 👉 Alison Moore episode 👉 Benita Fitzgerald Moseley episode For more Proteus, subscribe to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .

June 1, 2026Episode 12725 min

#127 From AI Fluency to AI Symbiosis: How Leaders Can Redesign Work for Humans and AI Agents

Marie Holive sits down with David Shrier, Professor of Practice in AI and Innovation at Imperial College London, plus author of WELCOME TO AI and The Intelligence Capital Manifesto. We explore why the real opportunity with AI is not just automation, but redesigning work around true human-AI symbiosis. David explains the difference between replacement, augmentation, and symbiosis, why lasting advantage comes from building “Intelligence Capital” rather than simply deploying tools, and what leaders need to change in workflows, decision-making, and culture to make that shift real. Listen in for practical, actionable ideas you can use right away to strengthen AI fluency, rethink work design, and build more valuable collaboration between people and intelligent systems. Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction to the podcast episode (01:42) AI as a collaborator rather than a tool (03:59) Understanding AI capabilities (06:54) What does the intelligence capital economy mean for leaders? (14:15) Using AI as an orchestrator (17:15) Practical tools for building real human-AI collaboration (24:32) Podcast episode wrap-up Mentioned in the episode: 👉 Episode 89, ' Making AI Work for Us ' 👉 Episode 115, ' From Experiments to Impact: Building Human-AI Collaboration with Todd McLees ' 👉 The Intelligence Capital Manifesto For more Proteus, subscribe to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .

May 18, 2026Episode 12613 min

#126 Leading to Build Ownership vs. Control

Erika talks with Kursten Faller, co-author of The Hidden Project Drivers, about how to stop managing for compliance and start leading to build ownership. Visit Kursten's website Timestamps: (00:00) Podcast episode starts (01:59) Stop managing for compliance and start leading for ownership (04:27) Impact when employees and teams don't feel like owners (06:43) What leaders can do to build greater ownership within teams (08:49) What it means to step outside the 'problem box' For more Proteus, subscribe to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .

May 4, 2026Episode 12525 min

#125 Owned to Deliver: Employee Ownership and the Race to Power the Data Center Boom

Marie Holive sits down with Mario Azar, Chairman and CEO of Black & Veatch, to explore what it takes to deliver critical infrastructure under pressure. Mario shares what’s different about leading a 100% employee-owned company and how ownership changes accountability, decision-making, and execution when timelines are tight. Together, they unpack the leadership implications of the data-center boom, the real-world trade-offs leaders must navigate, and practical ways to build an “owner’s mindset” that improves outcomes in any high-stakes environment. Listen in for clear, actionable leadership insights you can apply immediately, especially if you’re leading growth, complexity, or rapid delivery. Timestamps: (00:00) Podcast episode starts (02:08) What is human critical infrastructure? (04:10) What does it mean to be 100% employee owned (07:02) What is driving the acceleration in data centers? (10:59) How is Black & Veatch dealing with the impact of AI (14:11) Speed vs resilience, how do you choose? (17:16) Practical tips for leading through growth (24:02) Podcast episode wrap up For more Proteus, subscribe to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ .

April 20, 2026Episode 12415 min

#124 Safety - A Critical Element of Organizational Success with Benita Fitzgerald Mosley

Erika talks with Benita Fitzgerald Mosley, Olympic Gold Medalist and newly named CEO of the U.S. Center for SafeSport, about why safety on all levels - physical, emotional and psychological - is essential in modern organizations, and how to create a safe environment that supports the organization and its members to succeed. Timestamps: (00:00) Beginning of the podcast episode (02:03) Why is safety a necessary foundation for excellence? (04:53) Impact of lack of psychological safety (08:14) How can leaders create a psychological safe environment? (14:08) Podcast comes to an endFor more For more Proteus, subscribe to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠ .⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠ . Source for psychological safety stats .

April 7, 2026Episode 12322 min

#123 The Hard Choices Behind True Transformation with Karim Chaiblaine

Marie Holive sits down with Karim Chaiblaine, CEO of Nesma Mobility in Saudi Arabia, to explore what true transformation requires from leaders in uncertain environments. Through the conversation, listeners will hear practical insights on making tough strategic choices, knowing when to build versus partner, scaling with intention, and staying flexible without losing clarity of purpose. Karim also draws on Professor David Teece's dynamic capabilities framework (UC Berkeley) and Professor Charles O'Reilly's Ambidextrous Organization framework (Stanford), to explore how successful organizations navigate change. It’s a thoughtful discussion on how leaders can navigate complexity, drive meaningful change, and make the kinds of decisions that create lasting impact. Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction to the podcast (02:45) When operating at scale how do you stay agile without creating chaos (05:43) Common mistakes when launching or scaling new business ideas (10:18) How to pick the right business partner (12:13) When to partner versus when to build internally in your organization (15:41) How to know when to stop a business transformation (18:34) Practical tips leaders can implement today during transformation (especially large in organizations) For more Proteus, subscribe to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠ .⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on YouTube⁠⁠⁠ .