Episodes
97
Latest episode
Oct 2026
Language
EN-US
Welcome to the “And So It Flows” podcast, BNP Media’s Plumbing Group show focused on all things tech, trades and trends within the PHCP-PVF industry. Each episode features exclusive insights from leading industry experts and decision-makers discussing the latest plumbing and HVAC news, industry innovations, trends and issues. Delve into the topics shaping plumbing and HVAC contracting and engineering markets as Plumbing & Mechanical works to keep listeners up-to-date.Available on |
In a recent episode of And So It Flows, Nate Agentis, vice president of plumbing at BDR, joined Plumbing & Mechanical and to discuss why contractors should look beyond revenue when evaluating the health of their businesses.
The skilled labor shortage remains one of the biggest challenges facing plumbing and HVAC contractors, but what if part of the problem isn’t simply finding workers? What if contractors don’t have enough visibility into the skills potential employees already have?In a recent episode of And So It Flows, Dan Clapper of Interplay Learning joined Plumbing & Mechanical to discuss how contractors can rethink hiring, skills assessment and training in the skilled trades.
In the inaugural episode of Beyond the Pipes, Chris Lollini talks with Josh Hollub, fourth-generation master plumber and commercial and industrial supervisor at Modern Plumbing Company. Hollub discusses why his family business is prioritizing employee retention, profitability over size, and lasting customer relationships. He also shares how industry connections and a people-first culture are helping shape Modern Plumbing's future.
In a recent episode of And So It Flows, KAI Engineering's Mike Tamagni, director of mechanical engineer; Richard Long, senior mechanical engineering subject matter expert; and Khan Pouch, senior mechanical designer, joined Plumbing & Mechanical to discuss how mechanical room design has evolved and what engineers and contractors should consider as systems become more complex.
Get ready for ASPE’s 2026 Convention & Expo in Oklahoma City. This episode explores what attendees can expect from the event, including technical education, the Expo show floor and opportunities to connect with industry peers. Plus, hear tips for first-time attendees, what makes Oklahoma City worth exploring, and where to learn more and register.This episode is brought to you by:
Shower design has come a long way from the days when homeowners simply accepted whichever drain happened to be on the plumber's truck.In this episode of And So It Flows, Mike Rizzuto, National Technical Sales West for Infinity Drain, joins host Kristen Bayles to discuss the evolution of shower and drain design, the rise of linear drains and aging-in-place considerations, and the opportunities available to plumbing contractors, wholesalers and showroom professionals as customers become increasingly involved in the design process.
In honor of National Backflow Prevention Day, Watts Water Technologies’ Michael Gaulin joins the podcast to discuss the essentials of backflow prevention. Learn what causes backflow, common misconceptions, when preventers need attention, how technology is evolving, and what contractors, owners, and suppliers should know about codes and growing this side of their business.
Reins, joined Kristen Bayles for And So It Flows to discuss how employee retention, leadership development and incentive planning can affect the long-term value of a plumbing business. Reins works with independent business owners, particularly in the trades, to create alternative equity arrangements that help retain key employees and align them with the company’s goals.
On this episode of And So It Flows, Kristen Bayles sat down with Gregg Holladay, business development manager for specialty markets at Bradford White, to discuss the growing role heat pump water heaters are expected to play in the residential plumbing market and why contractors need to start preparing now.
In this episode of And So It Flows, Kristen sits down with Roland Ligtenberg, co-founder of Housecall Pro, to explore how technology, AI and shifting workforce dynamics are reshaping the skilled trades. Roland shares insights on the growing appeal of trade careers —especially among Gen Z! — as economic uncertainty and automation reshape traditional white-collar paths.
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Ann Carden
Holly Jean Jackson
Dr. Allen Lycka
Jessica Lorello and Maddison Donchez
Mark Mowrey, CFA
