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The Metal Pack Pod

The Metal Pack Pod

Hosted by Alex Fordham

Episodes

77

Latest episode

Aug 2026

Language

EN

About the show

An industry first, The Metal Packager brings you 'The Metal Pack Pod'! The industry's only dedicated podcast for metal packaging. We bring you the latest industry analysis from this $14 billion a year industry. Make 'The Metal Pack Pod' your go-to resource for everything you need if conducting business in the industry. Brought to you by metalpackager.com

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August 10, 202638 min

Steelforce Packaging on serving the steel and aluminium industry

Recorded live from Metpack, this episode brings together Brian Talley of Steelforce America and Angelica Papageorgiou, global director of the group's aluminium division, for a candid look at where the steel and aluminium supply chains stand in 2026. Talley sets out the North American picture: a stable but uncertain market, the legacy of Section 232, an inventory overhang in tinplate and cans, and a fresh US trade case on tin mill products from China, Taiwan and Turkey. He also explains the reasoning behind the company's expansion in Los Angeles and four new sales hires, and why he still believes buyers want choice rather than the lowest number. Papageorgiou gives a blunt assessment of the aluminium market. Force majeure at a major Gulf producer has taken more than three million tonnes of primary metal out of circulation, the LME has climbed past $3,600, the Japanese premium has jumped from $190 to $351, and transit times from the UAE to Latin America have stretched to around 90 days. She argues buyers need to stop shopping on price alone and start planning for continuity. The conversation closes on CBAM, recycled content, AI in scrap sorting, and whether the industry tells its own story well enough.

July 30, 202625 min

"Waste is a design problem" - Nick Paget on Meadow's new Refill System

Nick Paget from Meadow is back on the podcast to talk through its SleeveLock Dispenser System, a wall-mounted version of the company's beverage can refill system aimed at hotels. He explains why it locks to the wall, why Meadow tested it with housekeepers and hotel managers rather than guests, and how that produced a changeover time of around 20 seconds with no spillage or contamination. We also discuss recycling. Nick argues waste is a design problem for brands and retailers rather than something consumers should be asked to solve at extra cost or inconvenience. He also covers working with Ball, Novelis and DRT, why Meadow never leads on sustainability, and what comes next for the company that is passionate about invention.

June 22, 202618 min

PPG on staying ahead of the regulatory tsunami

In the latest episode of the The Metal Pack Pod , we sit down with Meghan Barrera (Leader of the Global Strategic Marketing Group for PPG Packaging Coatings) in a live episode at the recent Metpack 2026 trade show. The metal packaging industry is currently navigating significant market shifts and macroeconomic challenges. On the consumer front, there is notable global growth in the traditionally flat pet food packaging sector, alongside a rising demand for "harder-to-hold" beverages—such as functional drinks, ready-to-drink (RTD) cocktails, and mixed alcoholic beverages. At the same time, brand owners and can makers are facing a complex regulatory "tsunami" of rapidly changing global and state-level legislations. This episode explores these shifting dynamics and highlights how PPG’s latest coating innovations are engineered to drive operational efficiency and sustainability in response to these market conditions.

May 11, 202620 min

Future makers: The Ball Foundation Effect

Ball Foundation’s Global Impact and the $2M Boys & Girls Club Partnership Alex Fordham interviews Jessica Leary, Executive Director of the Ball Foundation – Ball Corporation’s philanthropic arm ­– about its mission and recent work. Leary, a 15-year Ball veteran who moved from environmental health and safety into social impact, says the foundation focuses on recycling, manufacturing education, and disaster response, supporting more than 15 partners globally and responding to disasters within 50 miles of Ball facilities (including U.S. hurricanes and South American mudslides). She highlights nearly $2 million invested over five years in Boys & Girls Clubs of America, including the Ultimate Journeys program, to spark hands-on STEM and skilled-trades interest—ideally by middle school (around age 13)—through employee engagement and facility exposure. She notes partners still want both manufacturing and recycling education when infrastructure exists, and the foundation is planning strategy through 2030, while expanding collaborative partnerships to address workforce gaps as industry evolves. Timestamps 00:00 Welcome and Introductions 00:21 Meet Jessica Leary 00:28 Ball Foundation Mission 00:58 Jessica Career Journey 01:29 Recent Projects Overview 02:36 Boys and Girls Club Partnership 03:13 Building the STEM Pipeline 04:30 Reaching Kids Early 06:32 Future of the Partnership 08:38 Disaster Relief and Recycling Work 10:51 Impact Stories and Motivation 11:46 Strategy to 2030 13:03 How Anyone Can Help 14:49 Power of Collaboration 15:32 Sustainability Education for Youth 17:39 Closing Thoughts on Workforce Needs 1 9:15 Final Thanks and Wrap Up

May 10, 20264 min

Innovations Unveiled: Intralox at Metpack 2026

The Metal Packager interviews Jasper Joosten about Intralox’s plans for Metpack 2026, described as the leading event for the metal packaging industry and a chance to reconnect with can makers and OEMs after three years.

April 24, 20263 min

Innovations Unveiled: Koenig & Bauer at Metpack 2026

Koenig & Bauer Previes: MetalCoat 484 Premiere and Digital Printing Updates for Metpack 2026 Damien and Alex discuss Koenig & Bauer’s plans for Metpack 2026, highlighting the world premiere of the MetalCoat 484 coating machine aimed at high automation in metal sheet coating. Key features include a closed-loop system and, for the first time, automatic wash-up. They will also display their digital printing portfolio with samples from the MetJET ONE and MetJET PROB, including improvements and new features. The company notes its sales team is trained to address emission regulation and EU Cyber Resilience Act topics, with machines prepared to meet emissions regulations 2027 and the Cyber Resilience Act starting this year, and fulfilling these regulations starting 2026.

April 17, 202626 min

Navigating Innovation and Leadership: A Conversation with Sean Bannon, CEO of Ska Fabricating

In today’s episode we interview, Sean Bannon Ska Fabricating’s New CEO on Packaging Automation, Talent Development and Market Trends Alex Fordham interviews Sean, discussing his decade-long progression from engineer to CEO, and his support for a customer-close organization. Sean describes how an engineering mindset shapes his problem-solving approach and Ska’s culture of creativity across teams and explains efforts to address the labour gap through challenging work, engagement, and intentional knowledge transfer. He explains how customer demand is centred on flexibility and future-proofing capital equipment, including handling varied containers and pallet specifications. Ska is seeing strong activity in retrofits and line optimizations to reduce labour, although there is still market hesitancy around new capacity expansion. Sean highlights new Ska innovation and market commentary on the evolving craft beer market into broader craft beverage trends. As always, please like and share our podcast! Enjoy the show! Time Stamps 00:00 Welcome and Introductions 00:20 Sean’s Journey to CEO 01:35 Leadership Style and Structure 02:33 Engineering Mindset at Work 04:59 Labour Gap and Talent Pipeline 08:56 Knowledge Transfer and Culture 10:34 Customer Demands and Market Mood 13:29 New Product Innovations 16:23 Growth Beyond Palletizers 19:22 Craft Beverage Market Shifts 21:07 Automation Mistakes and Future Vision 23:37 Closing Thanks and Wrap Up

April 13, 202618 min

A Vision for the Future: Training Leaders in the Canning Industry

Welcome to our latest podcast on Young Packaging for Future Generations: Building Can-Making Skills at Ohio State We interview Domingo Gonzalez from Better Cans LLC, about the “Young Packaging for Future Generations” seminar, created to build foundational knowledge in two-piece aluminium beverage can making amid retirements and potential knowledge loss in the industry. Run with Ohio State University and major industry suppliers and OEMs, the pilot seminar took place last August in Columbus, Ohio at the Food Science and Technology Department, delivering 14 lectures over two days to about 60 attendees including can makers, users, co-packers, distributors, and OSU PhD students. This year’s edition taking place on April 14–15 spring session repeats the 14 lectures with improvements and adds sessions on packaging safety and FDA compliance, flanging and inside reforming, and a general overview of the canmaking and beverage industry. Domingo emphasizes the venue as a neutral ground open to competitors and explains his 27+ years’ experience across the supply chain as motivation to leave a legacy. The Metal Pack Pod is brought to you by The Metal Packager, the #1 digital resource for the global metal packaging market, and PPG Packaging Coatings, a global leader in innovative, safe and reliable coatings. Their range of innovative an sustainable solutions help protect and beautify the world. Enjoy! 00:00 Welcome and Context 00:37 Seminar Overview and Partners 01:42 Who Attends and Why 02:52 2026 Agenda and New Lectures 04:46 Solving the Skills Gap 07:45 Why Ohio State as Neutral Ground 9:35 Domingo’s Background and Mission 13:17 2026 Spring Session Details 16:35 Wrap Up

January 26, 202650 min

The future of water packaging

The global water packaging market is going through one of its biggest shake-ups ever. New regulations, economic uncertainty, shifting consumer expectations, and rapid innovation are pushing brands and packaging suppliers to rethink everything they thought they knew. In a recent episode of the Metal Pack Pod, two industry leaders from very different sides of the packaging world came together to discuss where the sector is really heading. Matt Crocker, founder of aluminium bottle specialist ReWater, and John Bissell, founder and CEO of sustainable materials company Origin Materials, shared contrasting — and sometimes surprisingly aligned — views on recyclability, performance, and what sustainability actually looks like in today’s market.

December 9, 202523 min

How Hyperion Is Reinventing Carbide Tooling: The DZ23 Breakthrough Every Canmaker Needs to Know

Hyperion Materials & Technologies reveals its latest innovation — the DZ23 carbide grade — a major leap forward for canmaking efficiency, tooling durability, and high-speed line performance. In this episode of The Metal Pack Pod, host Alex Fordham sits down with Lluís Miñarro, the Global Segment Director for Can Tooling Products and Services at Hyperion Materials & Technologies, to explore how advanced carbide grades, global supply chain strategies, and customer-driven engineering are shaping the future of metal packaging. Lluís breaks down: Why lighter carbide grades improve punch dynamics How tooling innovation reduces spoilage, energy use, and maintenance The real impact of APT / tungsten supply constraints on cost and production Hyperion’s expanded global footprint — including new US manufacturing facilities What canmakers can expect from the next wave of tooling R&D If you’re in canmaking, tooling, operations, sustainability, or metal forming, this episode delivers real-world insight from one of the industry’s leading experts. 00:00 Intro & episode overview 01:20 Industry trends: sustainability, demand rebound & regional shifts 03:50 Hyperion’s role in global can tooling 06:00 Luis Minero’s background & passion for metallurgy 08:00 Why tooling innovations matter more than ever 11:00 Introducing the DZ23 carbide grade 13:45 Performance benefits: wear resistance, weight reduction & line efficiency 17:20 Understanding APT and tungsten supply chain challenges 19:55 How raw material pricing affects tooling costs 20:20 Hyperion’s new US production capabilities 22:00 What’s next for Hyperion and can tooling innovation

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