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The Landscape

Hosted by George Smith Partners

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Episodes

10

Latest episode

Jun 2026

Language

EN-US

About the show

Welcome to The Landscape by George Smith Partners, your go-to podcast for commercial real estate capital markets insights. Since 1992, GSP has been a trusted leader in CRE finance, arranging over $65 billion in debt, mezzanine, and joint venture equity solutions nationwide. Each episode, we sit down with industry leaders, capital sources, and market experts to break down the trends, strategies, and opportunities shaping today’s real estate landscape. Whether you’re a developer, investor, or finance professional, The Landscape delivers the intelligence you need to navigate an ever-evolving capital environment. Follow us so you never miss an update. Learn more at gspartners.com

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June 15, 2026

Inside GSP’s Mortgage Banking Build: Matt Fisher on Life Companies and the Alison Company Acquisition

Matthew Fisher, Head of Mortgage Banking at George Smith Partners, joins Evan Kinne and David Pascale on The Landscape to break down life company lending, GSP’s acquisition of the 92-year-old Alison Company, and the $1.5 billion servicing portfolio behind GSP’s expanding mortgage banking platform. Matt covers default rates, rate lock at app, and why life companies are quietly winning market share in today’s volatile environment.

June 8, 2026

$24.4 Billion in Sales: Bob Knakal on 42 Years of New York Investment Sales

Bob Knakal, founder of BKREA, joins Evan Kinne (Managing Principal) and Justin Piasecki (President) on The Landscape to break down 42 years selling buildings in New York. After 2,406 transactions, $24.4 billion in sales volume, and 35 companies now run by brokers he trained, Bob shares the three characteristics behind elite salespeople, why he never went principal, and how proprietary data and AI are reshaping investment sales today.

May 18, 2026

Why Boring Wins: Jim Dillavou on Grocery-Anchored Retail, AI in CRE, and the Last Mile Thesis

Jim Dillavou, Principal and Co-Founder of Paragon Commercial Group, joins Evan Kinne and David Pascale to explain why “boring” necessity retail has become one of the most sought after asset classes in CRE. After 17 years quietly compounding in West Coast grocery-anchored centers, Jim breaks down the pattern-recognition thesis that led Paragon to lean into retail when no one else would, why capital is now flooding back, and how he closed an acquisition with a zero-dollar legal bill using AI.

April 22, 2026

Navigating Policy Risk and Opportunity in California CRE with Alain R’bibo, Partner at Allen Matkins

In this insightful interview, real estate attorney Alain R’bibo shares his extensive experience, market insights, and the evolving landscape of commercial real estate, with a focus on California and emerging trends like EV infrastructure and industrial sectors. He also discusses the impact of policies like Measure ULA on transaction activity, the growing role of family-office capital in today’s market, and why long-term opportunity may be emerging in the office sector despite recent challenges.

March 13, 2026

How to Build Trust and Leverage AI for Sales Success with Matt Savarick, CEO of Vibe DTM

Join host Evan Kinne, Managing Director, as he sits down with guest Matt Savarick, CEO of Vibe DTM, to share his expertise on how AI is transforming sales strategies for mid-sized companies. Discover practical approaches to leveraging AI for pipeline growth, the importance of trust in sales, and the future of human–AI collaboration.

January 29, 2026

The Landscape Podcast: Navigating the Future of US Treasury Yields with John Rothfield

January 16, 202642 min

The Landscape Podcast: Navigating the CMBS Landscape: Insights from Expert, Michael Cohen

In this episode of The Landscape podcast, hosts Evan Kinne and David R. Pascale, Jr. are joined by guest host Jonathan Chassin and special guest Michael Cohen, Managing Partner at Brighton Capital Advisors. The discussion revolves around the current state of the CMBS market post-COVID, the intricacies of special servicing, and the importance of early communication for borrowers facing challenges. Michael shares insights on navigating modifications and extensions, emphasizing the need for borrowers to be proactive and prepared to invest additional capital. The conversation highlights the complexities of the CMBS landscape and the critical role of advisory teams in achieving successful outcomes.

December 12, 202551 min

The Future of Retail: A Conversation with Doug Stephens, Founder of Retail Prophet & Bestselling Author

In this episode of The Landscape Podcast, host and Managing Director Evan Kinne sits down with bestselling author and Retail Prophet founder Doug Stephens for a deep exploration of the forces reshaping global retail. From the rise of AI and agentic workflows to shifting consumer behavior, urban evolution, and the evolving role of physical stores, Doug brings decades of research, predictions, and perspective. This episode is a must-listen for retail owners, developers, investors, and anyone interested in where commerce and society are headed.

October 30, 202536 min

Entrepreneurship in Real Estate: Building a National Brand from the Ground Up with Colby Durnin, Founder & CEO of CREDE

In this episode of The Landscape Podcast, host Evan Kinne, Managing Director, and guest host Ed Steffelin, Managing Director, sit down with Colby Durnin, Founder & CEO of CREDE. Colby shares his journey of building a national real estate development and project management firm from the ground up, discussing leadership, company culture, and scaling through partnerships and acquisitions. Tune in for insights on entrepreneurship in real estate, market trends, and the mindset behind growing a national brand.

September 25, 202539 min

Navigating Capital Headwinds with Parker Nicholson, Senior Managing Director at Legacy Partners

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