The Kula Ring

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385

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Sep 2026

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The Kula Ring is a podcast for manufacturing marketers who want to drive real growth inside complex B2B organizations. Hosted by Jeff White and Carman Pirie (Kula Partners), each episode features candid conversations with industry leaders centred on practical, field-tested ideas you can actually use. Expect smart takes on account-based marketing (ABM), sales + marketing alignment, demand generation, positioning, content and website strategy, and the realities of modern industrial buying. If you market to engineers, plant managers, procurement teams, or multi-stakeholder buying groups, this show is built for you. New episodes released weekly, subscribe to stay in the loop.

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September 8, 2026Episode 40726 min

Bringing B2C Discipline to a Forklift Brand Without Losing the Plot

Josue Vermes took a winding path—high-end wine, JPMorgan, Amazon apparel at HanesBrands—before landing as the most senior marketer at Carolina Handling, a Raymond forklift dealer expanding into intralogistics. In this episode he makes the case for borrowing B2C discipline without abandoning B2B fundamentals: geotargeted paid media, streaming TV built around football season, a video-first podcast, and a TikTok channel his own leadership questioned. The throughline is counterintuitive: broad, low-intent reach and a genuine brand personality aren’t a distraction from pipeline—they’re part of the growth strategy when your buyers are younger than you’d expect and educating themselves on channels most manufacturers refuse to touch.

September 1, 2026Episode 40623 min

Selling Flexibility: How a Packaging Startup Markets Against the Old Guard

Maria Birdwell came to industrial packaging from media and advertising, with no B2B background and no allegiance to how the category has always sold itself. At Franklin Mountain Packaging, a corrugated manufacturer that started up in 2022, she markets a young company against multi-generational competitors by refusing to fight on age or even on machinery. Instead she lets customer requirements drive the conversation and, in a recent pivot she credits directly to macroeconomic uncertainty, leans the whole message toward flexibility. She tells Jeff White and Carman Pirie why she downplays sustainability, why video of machines in action outperforms everything, and why marketing means nothing if operations can’t capture and convert the lead.

August 25, 2026Episode 40529 min

Feeling Like an Alien: Marketing Advanced Manufacturing by Finding a Common Language

Benjamin Toomey didn’t come to additive manufacturing from engineering — he came from fireworks and craft beer. That outsider’s vantage turns out to be the point. In this episode, Ben tells Jeff White and Carman Pirie how he went from feeling like an alien at his first trade show to becoming a “messenger” who can connect large-format 3D printing to a stranger’s field of interest. Along the way he makes the case that marketing complex technology isn’t about being the smartest person in the room or hiding what you don’t know — it’s about building a common language, grounding claims in data, and keeping the divergent outside interests that let a marketer connect dots the engineers can’t.

August 18, 2026Episode 40428 min

Selling the Ingredient No One Sees: Reframing Polypropylene as Sustainability Plus One

Chris Persson sells something buyers never see: polypropylene fiber woven into cars, couches, and carpets. On this episode he unpacks the peculiar challenge of marketing an ingredient brand with a guerrilla-sized budget, and why the sustainability pitch keeps colliding with a price tag. His answer is a reframe he calls “sustainability plus one” — lead with a greener story, then stack innovation, cleanability, and low specific gravity on top so the customer never has to choose good over cheap. Along the way he makes the case that a manufacturer’s deepest competitive moat isn’t its equipment but the decades of intellectual property walking around on its factory floor.

August 11, 2026Episode 40326 min

Curiosity Is the Whole Job: Building Trust in a Tight-Knit, Deeply Informed Market

Nancy Verdezoto-Feijoo spent 15 years as a reporter and editor in Ecuador before landing in Manitoba as marketing manager at IHT Group, which builds heating, cooling, and lighting systems for the swine industry. She argues the newsroom taught her the one skill industrial marketers most often skip: listen before you speak. Her buyers are technical, deeply experienced, and allergic to buzzwords, and they talk to each other, which means a single bad experience travels faster than any campaign. Nancy walks Jeff and Carman through months-long buying cycles, why proof beats claims, and why she treats marketing as a growth function rather than a support function.

August 4, 2026Episode 40227 min

Your PhDs Are Your SEO Strategy: Leveraging the Authority Already in the Building

ElectraMet uses electrochemistry to pull copper and other critical minerals out of industrial wastewater — technology invented by PhDs and sold to wastewater managers at the world’s largest semiconductor fabs. Chris Richardson, a communications major with no electrochemical background, has to make that legible without dumbing it down. His answer isn’t better explaining. It’s association: make sure Google and the LLMs know which published scientists belong to your company, then build content on top of that link. Along the way he argues GEO is mostly just SEO done well, that earned backlinks still pay dividends, and that the surest way to win over a camera-shy expert is to show them what the internet already says about them.

July 28, 2026Episode 401

Why Your Distributor Cares More About Your Brand Than Your End Customer Does

In a category where production outstrips demand and the end customer cares more about how a room looks than whose logo is on the box, Mauricio Inglada makes a counterintuitive case: the brand that matters most is the one you build with your distribution channel. As VP of Sales & Marketing at Del Conca USA, he walks Jeff and Carman through winning at the channel level — earning distributor trust, removing the fears that quietly kill deals (dead inventory, builder callbacks, the homeowner’s permanent regret), and competing against far larger rivals with a small but relentlessly responsive “Navy Sales” team. Along the way: why Pinterest is a secret intent engine and where AI will reshape the buying cycle.

July 21, 2026Episode 40037 min

Stop Asking for Permission: Why the Agentic Wild West Belongs to Marketers Who Just Build

Shane Colella, an Emmy-winning cinematographer turned marketing director at automation firm Westfalia Technologies, makes the case that the agentic era has no historical analog — and that the marketers who win won’t wait for permission to find out. He walks through the agentic infrastructure he’s actually building, from research dashboards to a Claude-and-n8n pipeline that erases hours of list-building, and argues the real bottleneck isn’t technology but getting everyone else on board. Along the way he reframes the fear of lost jobs and vanishing entry-level roles as a perception problem, and lands on a provocation: this moment belongs to disciplined creatives with the clearest vision.

July 14, 2026Episode 39931 min

Keeping Your Brand Voice Authentic When AI Makes Everyone Sound the Same

Authenticity was a Web 2.0 buzzword — and Luke Wittenbraker, Marketing and Sales Director at Mactech On-Site, argues it matters more than ever now that AI can make every brand sound the same. In this episode, Luke explains why blue-collar buyers see straight through corporate jargon, how he turned ten years of CRM data into short, punchy “job stories” that actually generate leads, and why figuring out what not to work on became his biggest marketing unlock. Along the way he shares a hard-won warning: lean on AI too heavily and you’ll be coached into a groupthink that sounds nothing like you.

July 7, 2026Episode 39825 min

Marketing on the Clock: In Private Equity, Everybody Has an Expiration Date

When private equity owns the company, the clock is always running — and as Paul Olesh, CEO of Magneto Movement, puts it, everybody has an expiration date. Paul joins Jeff and Carman to explain how that urgency reshapes marketing inside a PE-backed platform: why a long 18-to-30-month sales cycle demands relentless funnel-building, how he holds his acquired brands together under a single Procter & Gamble–style promise, and why he insists marketing isn’t truly effective until the purchase order lands. It’s a candid CEO’s-eye view of building a marketing machine when both time and resources are scarce.