The HealthTech Narrative Podcast

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The HealthTech Narrative Podcast covers everything related to healthcare and technology and its impact in India. It covers topics related to healthtech innovation, investment and funding, regulation, with an emphasis on the healthtech startup ecosystem. This podcast is meant for investors, founders, doctors and everyone else interested in the healhtech space.

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May 1, 202417 min

EP 17 | Cybersecurity and Healthcare w. Vishnu (CEO, ParadigmIT)

Vishnu, the CEO of Paradigm IT Cybersecurity, discusses the unique challenges of cybersecurity in the healthcare industry in India. He highlights that healthcare is one of the most targeted sectors for cyber attacks, with valuable data being a major motivation for attackers. He emphasizes the need for strict access control, compliance, and phishing training to prevent attacks. Vishnu also mentions the lack of investment in cybersecurity in the healthcare sector and the potential risks associated with digitization and remote care. He recommends implementing cybersecurity frameworks, employee training, investing in cybersecurity technologies, data access controls, instant response plans, software updates, and strong third-party vendor agreements.00:00 Intro 00:30 Whats different about cybersec in healthcare04:09 What low-risk, high-reward05:00 Cybersec IS an expensive afterthought so...07:18 How is Indian healthcare responding to cybersecurity?09:00 Thoughts on a separate health data law?10:20 New-age care delivery12:58 Higher chance of a cyber-attack14:20 Check-list to assess capabilities against a cyber-attack

March 27, 202436 min

Ep 16 | Explainable AI - A Specific Use Case and General Principles w. Akash Parvatikar (HistoWiz)

Back in 2021, Akash Parvatikar Co-authored a paper titled - 'Prototypical models for classifying high-risk atypical breast lesions'. The premise was that some breast lesions are particularly challenging to classify, leading to different pathologists making different diagnoses based on the same information. The paper aimed to reduce this variability by providing a consistent computational method. A key contribution of this work is that the AI model can explain its recommendations in a way that is useful for clinical practice. This is important because doctors need to understand why an AI system has made a particular diagnosis to trust and act on its recommendations.In this episode, Akash discusses his work in relation to xAI in diagnosing breast cancer. He discusses the model he developed, which outperformed baseline models in detecting high-risk breast lesions. Akash emphasizes the importance of xAI in building trust and transparency in clinical decision-making tools and explains how his model incorporates explainability through feature detection and contribution scores.Akash emphasizes the need for explanations to be provided frequently to end users, as it plays a crucial role in building trust in AI systems. He also highlights the importance of involving domain experts in the development of AI models.0:00 Intro1:29 Achieving consistent diagnosis is crucial in patient care4:45 Why does non-uniformity in diagnosis exist in among pathologists 9:40 What were the considerations for model preparation?14:04 Components of the model and how they incorporate explainability17:17 How explanation was incorporated - a simplified analogy 22:52 How does xAI manifest itself for pathologists?26:54 Should explainability be a feature across all AI models in healthcare?29:29 So explainability in drug discovery is pointless?31:00 Frequency of explainability33:51 Domain experts need to be in the loop when building AI models36:00 Outro You can reach out to Akash on his LinkedIn at - https://www.linkedin.com/in/akash007/

March 13, 202437 min

Ep15 | Existing Capacity Augmentation in Healthcare w. Srikrishna Seshadri (Co-Founder, Previu)

In this episode, Srikrishna Seshadri shares insights into the design and implementation of care coordination and data aggregation solutions at Tata Consultancy Services (where he was a product manager). The implementation of the Tata Digital Nerve Center, a centralised capacity management center, is highlighted as a successful model for improving healthcare delivery. The key takeaways include the importance of innovation in healthcare delivery, the need for coordination and partnerships, and the value of technology in improving patient outcomes. He also talks about Previu Health's (a new healthtech company he is a co-founder in) focus on preventive healthcare and the potential of technologies like Google MedPalm 2 in improving public health outcomes. 0:00 Intro0:34 Does Bengaluru 'Bangalore' even for tech in healthcare?1:12 Investment Trends in HealthTech startups that catch his eye3:25 Care Co-ordination and Data Aggregation - A monologue (high value)17:10 Care Co-ordination from a population health standpoint cannot have vested interests20:05 Point of care devices will play a huge role for care co-ordination at capacity (say rural health camps)24:23 How will AI play a role at Previu?29:53 Google MedPalm 2's role in public health will be evaluated from specific use cases35:36 Outro

March 1, 202440 min

Ep 14 | Medical Device - Matching Needs to Regulatory Approval with Nitesh Kumar Jangir (InAccel)

Nitesh heads product development and commercialisation at InAccel (a medical device company from India), and has been referred to as a trailblazer by the Royal College of Engineering. In this episode, Nitesh discusses his background and role within InAccel. He shares his experience with the Stanford India BioDesign Program and how it shaped his approach to health technology innovation. Nitesh explains the process of identifying critical unmet needs (in the Indian and global healthcare space) and prioritising which problems to tackle through medical device innovation. He also discusses the journey from identifying a healthcare need to bringing a regulatory certified product to market, using VapCare as a case study. Nitesh also shares his perspective on the FDA and CE Mark regulatory pathways and his vision for making India a manufacturing hub for medical devices.He also provides advice for innovators in health tech and discusses building for different market segments. Nitesh highlights the impact of his work and the recognition he has received for his contributions to healthcare.1:24 What does it mean to get into product development and commercialisation for med devices?2:23 Experience with Stanford India BioDesign Programme4:18 Unmet critical needs - how to prioritise them and evaluate prospective impact?5:38 Regulatory pathways as a lens to evaluate creation of a medical device?6:31 Volume of medical needs requiring solutions that don't need higher regulatory pathways7:14 Top 2 filters to assess unmet critical medical needs9:30 Journey from identifying a healthcare need to bringing a regulatory certified product to market18:04 Preference between #CE Mark and #fda 19:56 The amended UK MDR21:06 FDA clearance helps enter other developing nations22:10 Regulating #ai - screening versus diagnostic - brief thoughts23:50 Hopes from and working with Indian regulators24:45 VapCare - Process of demonstrating product efficacy and safety29:17 Medical device developed. Now how to ensure effective implementation?Reach Nitesh via his LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nitesh-ku...

February 20, 202433 min

Ep 13 | UX and Medical Education as a barrier to digital health with Dr. Jaideep Rayapudi

Dr. Jaideep Rayapudi is the VP of Clinical Solutions at Precognitas, an #ai #healthcare company that offers its solutions to organisations and care communities in the US. But he also pushes for digital health adoption in India. He's well placed to provide a critical and unique perspective of the same and he discusses the role of AI-driven solutions in healthcare and the challenges and opportunities in the Indian healthcare ecosystem. He compares the healthcare infrastructure and technology adoption in the US and India, highlighting the solid base of digital infrastructure being built under the #abdm and how that already puts us in an advantageous position. Having said that, Dr. Jaideep points out the importance of education and mindset change in the medical community to drive technology adoption. This, he says, is the biggest barrier to adopting digital solutions and is not a problem that can be solved easily. 0:00 Dr. Jaideep wants to will tech adoption for healthcare in India - true? 1:40 healthcare analytics and AI to provides better community care in the US3:30 Impact of work in the US and #sdoh 5:46 India vs US in terms of healthcare infra, data avb. and tech adoption8:51 Problems of data infrastructure are similar in India and the US11:46 Fear of the unknown and tech adoption in healthcare 14:39 Transcribing software is symptomatic of rotten UX and not upto standard use cases17:25 Strength and weakness of AI application in Indian healthcare20:00 Digital infra or Digital mindset - biggest blocker to tech adoption?23:34 Concern is the doctor who is in the 30's / 40's age group26:24 Balancing | 100 + patients a day vs tech adoption headaches30:00 An AI application that holds most amount of promise in India31:15 Google Gemini and a healthcare businessDr. Jaideep comes across as someone who is revolutionary in his thinking and provided perspectives on #ai and #healthtech in India that I have not heard before. He can be reached on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdrayapudi/

February 6, 202435 min

Ep 12 | Venture Studio in HealthTech - A CFO Perspective with Bhavesh Hemani

In this episode of 'The HealthTech Narrative Podcast' Bhavesh Hemani, Group CFO at 2070 Health and W Health Ventures, puts his CFO hat on, and brings 2 decades of his experience to talk about what #healthtech startups should be thinking about when building for India and the world. Hear what a CFO has to say on all things #digitalhealth.He, discusses the venture studio model and the support and resources that #healthtech entrepreneurs can expect from partnering with 2070 Health. He explains the equity arrangements and resource contributions made by 2070 Health, and what could make them restructure any equity arrangement at a later stage. Hear Bhavesh's thoughts on building in / for rural / urban India. 2070 Health works with #digitalhealth startups catering to both, emerging and established markets - hear what he has to say on the important points to consider when working with such startups. In the Phy-gital (read omni-channel) space, what role does the digital play? Bhavesh discusses the challenges and opportunities of investing in R&D-intensive startups and the risk management strategies for investing in emerging markets. He concludes by emphasising the importance of passion and shared vision in founders.0:00 Introduction0:26 The Venture Studio Model of 2070 Health5:34 How does 2070 approach equity arrangements and resource provision?7:42 Open to re-structuring equity arrangements at a later stage?9:55 Financial Indicators and Investment Decisions13:09 What Bhavesh means by 'Pace at which you scale'15:45 Rural Vs. Urban - where is it more expensive to build and deploy? 18:20 International Operations and Building From India24:46 Integrating Digital and Physical Healthcare27:30 Data Privacy Laws and Cost Compliance 30:39 Desirable traits in #healthtech founders33:50 HEAR THIS IF YOU WANT TO PARTNER WITH 2070 :)

January 29, 202429 min

Episode 11 | Using AI To Diagnose Malaria at IIT Bombay with Shalini

Shalini Aggarwal, a postdoctoral researcher at the Weizmann Institute of Science, discusses her work on gene cards and using AI to diagnose malaria. Shalini shares her journey of using AI in disease diagnosis and the importance of digital health records. She also discusses the integration of AI in educational institutions and the need for collaboration with hospitals. The conversation concludes with a discussion on patents and the impact of her research.Reach out to Shalini at:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaliniag...Email: shalini.aggarwal@weizmann.ac.il00:00 Introduction 03:39 Why choose Malaria?06:03 Break Down Steps and Milestones of the Research10:01 What was the reason for using AI incidentally?13:07 Pros and Cons of using AI to diagnose Malaria? 16:43 Thoughts on solutions to the cons18:53 Summary of Israel and UK scenarios on health records20:13 Perspective on use of AI in educational institutions24:29 Partnerships remove barriers to collaboration25:54 Patents and Takeaways

January 23, 2024Episode 101 hr 1 min

Ep 10 DRiefcase | Digital Health Records with Sohit (Co-Founder)

Sohit is the Co-Founder of HealthTech Startup - DRiefcase. DRiefcase is a digital health platform that aims to revolutionize India's healthcare landscape. The company's vision is to provide a trusted platform for users to manage their health information. One of the key features of DRiefcase is the rapid retrieval of medical records, which plays a crucial role in medical emergencies. The platform allows users to find any record in less than 10 seconds, reducing the administrative stress in critical situations.In this Episode Sohit talks about:1. The vision and aim of Driefcase2. The labour intensive process that digital health is in terms of a business 3. Important stakeholders for DRiefcase4. The benefits of a health locker5. DRiefcase's MOAT6. Penetration in Rural vs Cities7. How DRiefcase is synonymous with the ABDM8. The seriousness with which DRiefcase takes patient privacy 9. His advise to healthtech innovatorsIf you are interested in collaborating with DRiefcase, please reach out to me at divyam@narrativecounsel.in and I will set it up!

June 21, 2023Episode 919 min

State of Digital Health in India with Dr. Indu Bhushan (ex-CEO, NHA) - Part I

Welcome to Part I of our insightful conversation with Dr. Indu Bhushan, a visionary leader in global health and former CEO of Ayushman Bharat. In this episode, we delve into Dr. Bhushan's remarkable career journey - from his roots as an IIT graduate in Electrical and Electronics Engineering to his transition into the world of public health, navigating roles as diverse as an Indian Administrative Service officer, World Bank professional, Asian Development Bank veteran, to helming one of the largest healthcare initiatives in the world.The discussion provides a unique perspective into the complexities of healthcare systems, exploring various models for managing healthcare expenses. Dr. Bhushan's expertise in health economics shines through as he elucidates on these issues, shedding light on his experiences and the lessons learned along the way.A highlight of this episode is Dr. Bhushan's fascinating account of his experience with China and how the country leveraged the SARS outbreak to advance its digital health agenda. The takeaways from this part of our discussion are profound, shedding light on the role of public health crises in catalyzing health innovation and systemic change.Stay tuned for Part II where we continue our deep-dive into Dr. Bhushan's insights on health economics, digital health, and the future of healthcare in India. Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe for more compelling conversations about health technology

August 12, 2021Episode 828 min

Episode 8: Speech therapy and digital health with Stamurai (Meet Singhal, Co-Founder)

Speech therapy for so long has been about undergoing many one-to-one sessions with a therapist, with the added condition of a high cost. More over, the lack of training and stigma to not being able to speak well, coupled with the lack of access to competent speech therapists has resulted in a situation where speech therapy is an oft ignored problem. Not for digital health and certainly not for Stamurai. In this episode we speak to Mr. Meet Singhal, Co-Founder of Stamurai. In this episode you will hear:1. What Stamurai is, and how it automates for interventions for speech therapy.2. The tools used by Stamurai to automate.3. The journey of the co-founders and what motivated them to solve for speech disorders. 4. How doctor consultations work on the Stamurai ecosystem, along with how the tech provides for such consultations to be more meaningful.5. The role of evidence and data to create a feedback loop to improve an offering such as this.6. Learnings from teleconsultation in relation to digital speech therapy.7. Stamurai's domestic and global audience.8. Pan-India action plan.You can learn more about Stamurai at: https://stamurai.com/Connect with Meet at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meet-singhal-39258160/