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The Freight Buyers' Club

The Freight Buyers' Club

Hosted by Mike King

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Aug 2026

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The Freight Buyers’ Club podcast is a new home for anyone with a professional interest in international trade, container shipping, procurement, logistics and air cargo. Each episode your host, award-winning journalist Mike King, will be speaking to leading decision-makers, analysts, journalists, operators and shippers to get their take on current freight and logistics markets and the challenges and opportunities ahead. You can subscribe to receive each episode direct to your inbox at: thefreightbuyersclub.com

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August 12, 202611 min

The Critical Window: Why Aerion is Moving Now

Mike King speaks with Adrien Thominet, Chairman and Founder of AERION, about why the GSSA model at the heart of air cargo is being reinvented from the ground up. Thominet explains how AERION has moved beyond the classic GSSA structure, building out dedicated arms for pharma (Healthcare), e-commerce (Mail & More), total cargo management (TCE) and digital transformation (CargoTech), all under one corporate umbrella. He makes the case that airlines are increasingly comfortable outsourcing more of their commercial and operational activity, and why AERION believes there's a limited window to lead that shift before the air cargo industry consolidates around a smaller number of players. The conversation covers: Why AERION thinks the GSSA concept needs to evolve into something closer to a "general logistics agent" How network scale let AERION pivot capacity from Dubai to Lebanon within weeks during regional disruption Where air cargo trade lanes are shifting, from China-to-Brazil e-commerce growth to hyperscaler demand out of Asia Dynamic pricing, shrinking planning windows, and why shippers are being pushed toward shorter-term commitments Which region Thominet flags as air cargo's most fragile market right now A hint at two acquisitions AERION plans to announce in the coming months This episode is brought to you by Dimerco Express Group, connecting Asia with the world: https://www.dimerco.com/ Guest: Adrien Thominet, Chairman & Founder, AERION LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrien-thominet-48585371/ Company: https://www.linkedin.com/company/we-are-aerion/ #AirCargo #FreightForwarding #GSSA #Logistics #SupplyChain #AERION #AirFreight #GlobalTrade #Aviation #CargoIndustry

August 6, 202615 min

Global GSA Group CEO Aytekin Saray on Consolidation, the Amazon Question, and Expansion into Africa, India and the Gulf

Aytekin Saray, CEO of Global GSA Group, joins The Freight Buyers Club at Air Cargo China in Shanghai to explain where he sees air cargo's next growth, and why much of it sits in markets the GSA sector has underserved. Saray describes Africa as a major gap, with the Indian subcontinent, South America and the Middle East close behind, and says even competitors are thin on the ground in some of these regions. He talks through the group's moves into Egypt and Pakistan, an imminent Pakistan announcement, and his interest in Saudi Arabia. He argues that political tension, which he sees as more US and Western in origin, keeps re-engineering trade routes, and that the cargo industry feels the impact first. The conversation also covers the case for consolidation among GSAs, Saray's warning that too many unregulated players are undercutting rates, the shift from selling capacity to total corridor management, the role of CargoTech and automation in a more integrated GSA model, and what Amazon, UPS and e-commerce mean for the business. Saray predicts most of the market will still rely on GSAs. Guest: Aytekin Saray, CEO, Global GSA Group. Recorded at Air Cargo China, Shanghai. This episode is brought to you by Dimerco Express Group, your freight forwarder for connections from Asia to the rest of the world: https://dimerco.com/ #AirCargo #AirFreight #GSA #Logistics #SupplyChain #FreightForwarding #Cargo #AirCargoChina #GlobalGSAGroup #CargoTech #Ecommerce #Africa #India #MiddleEast #TheFreightBuyersClub #Dimerco

July 29, 202640 min

Air Cargo Unpacked: Anchorage sizzles as Asia-Europe cools

Anchorage keeps growing while air cargo from Asia to Europe falls away. Same freight, opposite directions. Mike King and Neel Jones Shah unpack a freight market pulling apart, with Sean Dolan of NorthLink Aviation on why Ted Stevens Anchorage is booming, and Neil Wilson of TAC Index, calculating agent for the Baltic Air Freight Indices, on rates and jet fuel. Also this month: war and tariffs reshaping the map, the end of EU de minimis, the AI and semiconductor boom filling Asian carriers, Farnborough's order book, Dimerco's survey of 57 Asia-Pacific shippers, and Glyn Hughes handing over the top job at TIACA to Mammen Tharakan. Produced with the support of Dimerco Express Group, your partner for Asia sourcing, manufacturing and China-plus-one supply chains. https://dimerco.com/ 00:00 Welcome and coming up this month01:00 Two disruptions: war and tariffs02:00 Houthis blockade Saudi Arabia, Red Sea at risk04:00 Neel on the Middle East and the tariff scramble08:00 Asia-Europe volumes collapse after de minimis11:00 Anchorage: the world's third-busiest cargo hub12:00 Sean Dolan: what's driving Anchorage's growth13:00 Sean Dolan: the route picture and peak season14:00 Neel: e-commerce, AI, and the transpacific boom16:00 Neel: the debt behind the AI cargo boom18:00 Rates: Neil Wilson, TAC Index22:00 Seoul and Taiwan: the semiconductor lanes24:00 Jet fuel: why it's not feeding through yet29:00 Farnborough: MSC's order and DHL's converted freighter32:00 Dimerco's shipper survey and ocean volatility36:00 TIACA: Glyn Hughes hands over to Mammen Tharakan #AirCargo #Logistics #SupplyChain #Freight #AirCargoUnpacked

July 23, 202643 min

Rates, tariffs, ZIM and what happens next, with Hapag-Lloyd and US retailers

US container imports are heading for a record month, and then four months of decline. Mike King puts that to both sides of the transpacific: Torsten Hartmann, who runs the trade for Hapag-Lloyd, and Jon Gold of the National Retail Federation, representing America's retailers. They discuss where contract rates landed, why Hapag-Lloyd's long term rates are barely breaking even, what the ZIM deal would mean for the transpacific, and what happens to importers as one tariff expires and several more line up behind it. Produced with the support of Dimerco Express Group. https://dimerco.com/ 00:00 Welcome02:00 2026 in three words03:15 Hormuz and uncertainty05:50 Spot rates and contracts08:55 Hapag-Lloyd's profit upgrade10:50 Surcharges and the FMC13:40 Capacity and blank sailings17:15 Hapag-Lloyd's transpacific outlier18:58 The ZIM deal20:20 Consolidation and the regulator21:15 A record month, then the drop23:10 Imports against the consumer24:45 The tariff queue27:45 Forced labour tariffs30:10 Tariff refunds31:55 Sourcing and investment33:00 De minimis and e-commerce36:40 The shift to Southeast Asia37:30 Planning around policy38:40 As good as it gets?39:55 One ask each42:30 Terminal handling charges

July 13, 202614 min

Lufthansa Cargo's Carolin Gerstenmaier on Semiconductors, Pharma and Ten Flights Per Chip

Carolin Gerstenmaier, Head of Industry Development at Lufthansa Cargo, joins the Freight Buyers Club at Air Cargo China in Shanghai to talk through the two highest value, fastest growing industries in air freight: semiconductors and pharma. She walks through why a single chip can involve up to ten separate air freight movements, how semiconductor manufacturing has shifted from the US and Europe to Asia over the last 30 years, and why radioactive cancer treatments are now flight critical logistics, needing to reach a patient within 24 hours. The conversation also covers sustainability pressure from customers, AI and real time tracking, and how Lufthansa Cargo's network adapts to geopolitical disruption. This episode is sponsored by Dimerco Express Group, connecting Asia to the rest of the world. Find out more at https://dimerco.com/ Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 00:41 Pharma and semiconductors: the growth outlook 01:56 How semiconductor demand has shifted to Asia 02:56 Why semiconductors aren't a one size fits all business 03:57 Building a consistent modular offer across the supply chain 04:41 China plus one and the shift in manufacturing origin 06:04 Lufthansa Cargo's role across the supply chain 06:41 Pharma: the second largest growing industry 07:38 Blockbuster medicine versus specialised, individualised medicine 08:52 Cold chain, speed and flight critical logistics 09:24 Sustainability and AI driven tracking 10:59 Geopolitics, tariffs and network adaptability 12:14 Compliance, certification and the GDP/CEIV framework 13:37 Where semiconductors and pharma go next

July 6, 202623 min

CargoTech's President on Consolidating Air Cargo's Software | Exclusive

Recorded at Air Cargo China in Shanghai, Mike sits down with Cédric Millet, President of CargoTech, for an exclusive look at how one company is pulling air cargo's software under a single roof. CargoTech is a holding company, backed by the same owner as ECS Group, the world's largest cargo GSA. It brings together specialist software companies, each focused on its own domain. Millet's pitch is a simple one: "we know cargo." He argues that because the portfolio's leaders came out of airlines, forwarders and GSAs, their software is built to solve cargo's real pain points, a claim he draws in contrast to the wave of generic tech newcomers now entering the space. What Mike and Cédric get into: Millet's case for why a group of specialists beats one do-everything platform The "we know cargo" argument, and why he thinks domain expertise wins How the group aims to cover the airline's full commercial chain, from capacity and revenue management to forecasting, distribution and charters His claim that CargoTech covers around 75% of airline needs today, and plans to expand into cargo operations, compliance and sanctions checks The 105 airlines and 20,000+ forwarders he says are connected The new Kuala Lumpur hub Why he sees clean data as the foundation Where AI actually fits, with Millet framing co-pilots and agentic automation as tools rather than the headline This episode of The Freight Buyers Club is brought to you by Dimerco Express Group, your forwarding partner for transport from Asia to the rest of the world. Big thanks to Dimerco for supporting independent journalism. Find out more at https://dimerco.com/ Guest: Cédric Millet, President of CargoTech, and Chief Strategy & Digital Officer, ECS Group

July 2, 202618 min

Straight From Shanghai: China's Shipping and Air Cargo Read

Mike King is in Shanghai for Air Cargo China, and he sat down with Kathy Liu, VP global sales and marketing at Dimerco Express Group, for a fast read on what is really moving across ocean and air. Container rates have climbed since March, and Kathy explains the mix behind it: vessels tied up by Middle East disruption, a shortage of empty boxes at key Asian origins, and shippers front-loading ahead of tariff deadlines. Peak season has arrived early on the transpacific, though underlying demand is flat, so it may fade early too. She maps where congestion has moved, from an automated Shanghai that is coping to multi-day berth waits at Nhava Sheva, Colombo and Singapore. On air cargo, the AI and data centre boom is rewriting the map. Taiwan to US capacity is tight and rates are high, a run Kathy expects to last three to five years. Components are being pulled towards AI builds ahead of laptops and PCs, which points to a consumer electronics squeeze later in the year. She closes on the sourcing shift into Mexico, Vietnam and West Africa, and why Chinese companies still hold most of the freight decisions. Her advice for shippers: stay agile, and watch the market daily. #Shipping #AirCargo #SupplyChain #Freight #ContainerShipping Timestamped show notes 00:00 Live from Dimerco's Shanghai office, ahead of Air Cargo China 01:00 Dimerco's China footprint: 70-plus offices, air, ocean, customs and bonded 01:30 Why ocean rates have soared since March 02:30 The empty container shortage at Asian origins 03:30 Fuel surcharges, transit times, and shippers switching to sea-air and cross-border trucking 04:30 An early peak season, but flat underlying demand 05:30 Port congestion: Shanghai coping, Nhava Sheva, Colombo and Singapore not 06:30 The Red Sea and Hormuz knock-on for congestion 07:00 Carrier consolidation and what shippers actually care about 08:00 EU de minimis ends, and why e-commerce volumes are holding 09:30 The AI and data centre boom driving air cargo 11:00 Taiwan to US capacity crunch, and components diverted from laptops 13:00 Is this structural or a spike? Kathy's three to five year view 14:30 Sourcing shifts into Mexico, Vietnam and West Africa 16:00 Why Chinese companies still control the freight 17:00 Kathy's advice for shippers in a black swan market

June 29, 202636 min

How Companies Win Trade Wars: Chad Bown, Petersen Institute (Ex-State Dept)

Trade wars used to be something economists told you to avoid. Nobody wins one, so you don't fight. That argument is over. In this episode of The Freight Buyers' Club, Mike King talks to trade economist Chad Bown about why the old rules-based system has gone, and what that means for anyone who sources, ships or moves cargo for a living. Chad Bown is the Reginald Jones Senior Fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, host of the Trade Talks podcast, and a former chief economist at the US State Department. With Soumaya Keynes he has written How to Win a Trade War: An Optimistic Guide to an Anxious Global Economy. We get into China's drive for one-way dependence, the weaponising of rare earths, the squeeze on developing economies, and why Europe is suddenly on the front line. Then we bring it back to the people listening. Where do you source when the map keeps changing? How do you find the hidden risk in your own supply chain? And what did companies like Apple do early that the rest are now scrambling to copy? If you buy freight, run a supply chain or decide where the factories go, this one is about the decade ahead. Produced with the support of Ontegos Cloud, the freight forwarder profitability specialists. Trade wars used to be something economists told you to avoid. Nobody wins one, so you don't fight. That argument is over. In this episode of The Freight Buyers' Club, Mike King talks to trade economist Chad Bown about why the old rules-based system has gone, and what that means for anyone who sources, ships or moves cargo for a living. Chad Bown is the Reginald Jones Senior Fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, host of the Trade Talks podcast, and a former chief economist at the US State Department. With Soumaya Keynes he has written How to Win a Trade War: An Optimistic Guide to an Anxious Global Economy. We get into China's drive for one-way dependence, the weaponising of rare earths, the squeeze on developing economies, and why Europe is suddenly on the front line. Then we bring it back to the people listening. Where do you source when the map keeps changing? How do you find the hidden risk in your own supply chain? And what did companies like Apple do early that the rest are now scrambling to copy? If you buy freight, run a supply chain or decide where the factories go, this one is about the decade ahead. Produced with the support of Ontegos Cloud, the freight forwarder profitability specialists. Notes: Shoumitro Chatterjee and Arvind Subramanian, “China’s mercantilist squeeze on developing countries,” PIIE Working Paper, May 2026. Arvind Subramanian talks to Chad Bown. https://tradetalkspodcast.com/podcast/215-how-chinas-trade-is-holding-back-developing-countries/

June 17, 202645 min

Air Cargo Unpacked | Rates Soaring, Volumes Flat and Atlas Air's Big Fleet Bet — with Richard Broekman

Richard Broekman, Chief Commercial Officer and Head of Sustainability at Atlas Air, joins Mike King and Neel Jones Shah for the June episode of Air Cargo Unpacked. Atlas flies 113 widebody freighters, around 13% of the world's widebody freighter fleet, so few people have a better view of where this market is heading. Richard gives a first-hand account of how Atlas managed the US de minimis shock in 2025 - which came on top of ‘Liberation Day’ tariffs - by redeploying capacity to Latin America almost overnight, and what it tells us about the EU's de minimis deadline coming on July 1. We also dig into why freight rates are soaring even as IATA cuts its 2026 demand forecast to 0.7%; the hyperscaler data centre boom reshaping the transpacific; the charter surge through the war in Iran; Atlas Air's record Airbus A350 freighter order and the lingering Boeing 777X question; the Air Atlanta investment; and an honest take on sustainable aviation fuel. Rates analysis from Neil Wilson, editor of TAC Index, calculating agent for the Baltic Air Freight Indices. A Freight Buyers' Club production, brought to you by Ontegos Cloud, the freight forwarder profitability specialists.

June 11, 20265 min

China's Cargo Pivot: Africa, India and South America

China's exports to the US have fallen, but China hasn't slowed down. It has redirected. In this clip from the latest episode of The Freight Buyers' Club, Nigel Pusey, CEO of Container Trades Statistics, walks through where the cargo is going now: Sub-Saharan Africa up 33% in Q1 2026, South and Central America up 17%, India up 17%. He explains why this started before the latest round of tariffs, and how a logistics revolution in West Africa, with 20,000 TEU ships now calling Lagos, is making it possible. Watch or listen to the full episode for the complete picture, including the European trade imbalance, the Strait of Hormuz, and Nigel's predictions for the rest of the year. Links on the channel. Produced with the support of Dimerco Express Group. #ContainerShipping #GlobalTrade #SupplyChain #ChinaTrade #Logistics

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