
Foundations First, AI Tools Second | Jeff Bailey, Nike
Jeff Bailey (Principal Software Engineer at Nike) explains why fundamentals matter more than ever, now that hundreds of AI tools compete for attention. With Mike Brissoni and Ale Di Gioia. Every week a new AI tool arrives, and every week someone says it is the one to use. If you build software for a living, you may have felt the pull to chase each of them while the industry reshuffles around you. That pull is normal, and there is a calmer way to read the moment. In this conversation, Jeff Bailey, Alessandro Di Gioia and Mike look at AI-assisted software development through the eyes of people who have been crafting software for a long time. Jeff has been in the industry since the dot-com boom of the nineties. His view is measured: the tools will shake out, and the people who know how the work is done will be the ones who use them well. In this episode, we explore: • Why Jeff sees "hundreds of hammers" in today's AI landscape, and what to ask before picking one • Why power skills (what many call soft skills) are what make an engineer hard to replace • Why we will keep reading code, and who answers when production goes down • Assembly is deterministic, AI is non-deterministic by design, and what that changes in practice • Ale's "universe" idea for testing AI-generated code • Where nWave sits between autocomplete assistants and fully autonomous agent factories • Test-driven development and context: the right tool, for the right job, in the right context • Open source under pressure from AI-generated pull requests, and what InnerSource offers companies • The modern software craftsperson: command line, patterns, fundamentals and curiosity • The new bottleneck in AI-assisted teams, and why working sessions beat solo autonomy Jeff's line from the conversation: "Don't pick the wrong tool for the wrong job in the wrong context." If you lead or work in a team adopting AI, you will leave with a simple lens: start from how the work is done, build the human skills around it, and choose the tool last. A special thanks to Andrea Laforgia, who connected the three of us for this amazing discussion. WATCH THE VIDEO https://youtu.be/alRdM8icZgc READ THE COMPANION ARTICLE https://brix.consulting/blog/ep108_thehammer JEFF'S BLOG POSTS How do I use GenAI coding tools: https://jeffbailey.us/blog/2026/04/07/how-do-i-use-genai-coding-tools/ What is nWave: https://jeffbailey.us/blog/2026/04/20/what-is-nwave/ ABOUT JEFF BAILEY Jeff Bailey is Principal Software Engineer at Nike. He has worked in the industry since the dot-com years, works almost exclusively on the command line, and loves open source and InnerSource. He is part of the InnerSource Commons community and was one of the early adopters of nWave. ABOUT ALESSANDRO DI GIOIA Alessandro "Ale" Di Gioia is a software crafter and co-creator of nWave together with Mike. ABOUT MIKE Michele "Mike" Brissoni is the founder of the Software Craftsmanship Dojo®, co-creator of nWave together with Ale, and host of The Forge of Unicorns. CONNECT Mike Brissoni https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelebrissoni/ Jeff Bailey https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffabailey/ Alessandro Di Gioia https://www.linkedin.com/in/alessandro-di-gioia/ Free AI Readiness Assessment https://brix.consulting/free-ai-readiness-assessment More episodes and the newsletter https://brix.consulting/blog/ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome to the new channel and season 01:10 How Jeff, Ale and Mike met through nWave 01:58 Hundreds of hammers: the AI industry through Jeff's eyes 04:05 Layoffs and power skills 12:03 Will we stop reading code? 15:38 Deterministic assembly, non-deterministic AI 18:53 Dark factories, Gas Town and where nWave sits 21:16 TDD, context and the right tool for the job 25:01 Open source and AI-generated pull requests 32:55 InnerSource explained, trusted committers and InnerSource Commons 38:36 The modern software craftsperson 45:37 Power skills and the new team bottleneck 50:09 Closing thoughts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.















