The Exchange by EW&L Private Wealth

Hosted by Craig Emanuel, Tim Whybourne, Ryan Loehr.

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As advisors to successful families, we often draw upon some of the best minds in the country. We believe, that by exchanging ideas, we can deliver better advice and better outcomes for the families we work for. Now, we are inviting you on this journey. In this podcast, we interview some of the country's best investment managers, business advisors, bankers and founders to share their insights. Our hope is that with better information, comes better decisions, helping you to achieve more financially.

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August 10, 2026Episode 11559 min

Coaching Olympians, 14-day Fasts and becoming a better Father - John Toomey

Let us know your thoughts, questions, and who you want to hear from next! He's coached an Olympic gold medallist, worked pitch-side in the AFL, and spent fifteen years studying human consciousness — now he's on a mission to change the way men think about their own wellbeing. In today's episode, Managing Partner Craig Emanuel sits down with John Toomey, Global Chair of the Global Wellness Institute's Men's Wellbeing Initiative. Why is men's health suddenly a global policy priority, and what's still standing in the way? John is one of the world's leading voices on men's wellbeing. CEO of The Wellbeing Thought Leaders and Global Chair of the Global Wellness Institute's Men's Wellbeing Initiative, he has delivered over 3,800 corporate presentations worldwide and is the author of "In it for the Long Haul," a guide for FIFO workers and their families now heading into its third edition. Earlier in his career John worked as a conditioning coach and nutritionist in the AFL and coached an Olympic gold medallist, before turning his focus to the whole person. In January 2026, GoWell Magazine named him among the top 25 male voices in wellness globally. Disclaimer: The information in this podcast series is for general financial educational purposes only, should not be considered financial advice and is only intended for wholesale clients. That means the information does not consider your objectives, financial situation or needs. You should consider if the information is appropriate for you and your needs. You should always consult your trusted licensed professional adviser before making any investment decision.

July 20, 2026Episode 10938 min

Can Accessible Housing Deliver Better Outcomes and Cost Less? Featuring Perry Cross & Tom Ray (Accessible Homes Australia)

Let us know your thoughts, questions, and who you want to hear from next! In this episode of The Exchange, Mitchell Finnen sits down with Perry Cross and Tom Ray, Co-Founders of Accessible Homes Australia, to explore one of the most overlooked corners of Australian social infrastructure, specialist disability accommodation. Perry sustained a spinal cord injury at 19 and spent decades in a system that wasn't built for him. Today he lives independently in a purpose-designed, voice-activated apartment on the Gold Coast. It's not just a better home. It's a different life. Together, Perry and Tom break down how their clustered independent living model can save the NDIS up to $75,000 per person per year compared to conventional care arrangements, a counterintuitive finding the system has been slow to embrace. They also walk through their newest development in Hervey Bay: a self-sufficient village with onsite hydrotherapy, adapted gymnasium, and 24-hour care, built for people who want independence, not an institution. If you've ever thought about impact investing, social infrastructure, or simply what it means to build something that matters, this episode is for you. Disclaimer: The information in this podcast series is for general financial educational purposes only, should not be considered financial advice and is only intended for wholesale clients. That means the information does not consider your objectives, financial situation or needs. You should consider if the information is appropriate for you and your needs. You should always consult your trusted licensed professional adviser before making any investment decision.

July 6, 2026Episode 10847 min

What Does True Exit Readiness Look Like for Family Business Owners? Featuring Christine Fleer & Rebecca Zwier (Arnold Bloch Leibler)

Let us know your thoughts, questions, and who you want to hear from next! Most business owners aren't ready to sell. Not because they don't want to. Because the structure, the documents, and the conversations that make a deal work, they never happened. Managing Partner Tim Whybourne sat down with Christine Fleer and Rebecca Zwier of Arnold Bloch Leibler, the firm behind 40% of Australia's AFR Rich List, to talk about what exit-ready actually looks like. The short version: the families who get the best outcomes start preparing years before anyone makes an offer. They discuss in this episode of The Exchange: → The structural traps that quietly cost sellers at the deal table → What the ATO is coming for, and what to fix before they do → Why you should be doing due diligence on your buyer, not just the other way around → How to pass on wealth to the next generation without taking away their reason to work for it. If you own a business, or advise someone who does, this one is not to be missed. Listen here for the entire interview: Disclaimer: The information in this podcast series is for general financial educational purposes only, should not be considered financial advice and is only intended for wholesale clients. That means the information does not consider your objectives, financial situation or needs. You should consider if the information is appropriate for you and your needs. You should always consult your trusted licensed professional adviser before making any investment decision.

June 23, 2026Episode 11451 min

Private Markets, Vintage Funds & the Decade-Long AI Trade. Featuring Jonathan Belz (BFA Global Investors)

Let us know your thoughts, questions, and who you want to hear from next! In this episode of The Exchange, Tim Whybourne sits down with Jonathan Belz, Global CEO and Co-Founder of BFA Global Investors, an investment manager built to give Asia-Pacific family offices and sophisticated investors direct access to top-tier US venture managers and transformative private companies. Jonathan brings more than twenty years of experience across Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse, and the Victor Smorgon Group, and has been behind some of the most notable private market allocations in Australia, including early positions in Anthropic, OpenAI, and SpaceX. Together, they explore why the most significant value creation of our lifetime is happening in private markets, how AI is compounding on top of technology cycles that are still far from mature, and why the opportunity beneath the hyper-scalers is larger than most investors appreciate. They also unpack the structure and investment thesis behind BFA's Vintage Fund, covering fund selection, co-investment access, return targets, and how to think about liquidity over a five-to-ten-year horizon. Disclaimer: The information in this podcast series is for general financial educational purposes only, should not be considered financial advice and is only intended for wholesale clients. That means the information does not consider your objectives, financial situation or needs. You should consider if the information is appropriate for you and your needs. You should always consult your trusted licensed professional adviser before making any investment decision.

June 22, 2026Episode 11044 min

Why Australia's Mid-Market Is Private Equity's Best Kept Secret? Featuring Michael Lukin (Roc Partners)

Let us know your thoughts, questions, and who you want to hear from next! In this episode of The Exchange, Charles Troian sits down with Michael Lukin, Partner at Roc Partners, to explore why the Australian mid-market remains one of the most compelling and undercapitalized opportunities in private equity today. With 30 years in the industry, beginning at Macquarie Bank before a management buyout formed Roc Partners in 2014, Michael brings a rare depth of perspective on how the asset class has evolved. He breaks down why the $50 million to $1 billion segment of the Australian market is structurally underserved by capital, how private equity has shifted from financial engineering to genuine operational value creation, and which sectors are attracting the most conviction right now. The conversation also covers Roc's Summit Fund, their evergreen vehicle built to give private wealth investors simpler, more flexible access to Australian mid-market private equity, and why buyout is better suited to that structure than venture capital. If you've been thinking about how private equity fits into a long-term portfolio, this episode is a good place to start. Disclaimer: The information in this podcast series is for general financial educational purposes only, should not be considered financial advice and is only intended for wholesale clients. That means the information does not consider your objectives, financial situation or needs. You should consider if the information is appropriate for you and your needs. You should always consult your trusted licensed professional adviser before making any investment decision.

June 8, 2026Episode 11344 min

Stop the Silence: Wealth Transfer, Tax & Structured Giving Before 30 June Featuring Rachael Rofe (Rofe & Co)

Let us know your thoughts, questions, and who you want to hear from next! 30 June is closer than most people are ready for. If this has been a strong financial year — or you're carrying a tax liability you haven't yet addressed — there are still options on the table. But not for long. Tim Whybourne, CFA sits down with estate planning lawyer Rachael Rofe for a candid hour on intergenerational wealth transfer, tax strategy, and structured giving. Rachael spent a decade leading Australia's largest donor-advised giving fund — helping more than 700 families direct over $500 million in philanthropic capital — before returning to private practice. She knows this space as well as anyone. Australia is entering the largest intergenerational wealth transfer in its history. Most families aren't ready — not legally, and not relationally. This conversation covers both. What we get into: Why silence is the single biggest mistake wealthy families make — and how unspoken, unequal decisions fracture families after the will is read Why a basic will no longer cuts it: super, family trusts, and jointly held assets all pass outside it Binding death benefit nominations and the death benefits tax of up to 17% most people don't see coming Division 296 and the quirk that can leave some beneficiaries taxed on super they never inherit The proposed budget changes to testamentary trust taxation — and why discretionary testamentary trusts still belong in even modest estate plans Structured giving before 30 June: turning a tax liability into impact you direct Prenups, binding financial agreements, and protecting wealth passed during your lifetime What a genuinely successful wealth transition looks like — confident, capable, and loved Disclaimer: The information in this podcast series is for general financial educational purposes only, should not be considered financial advice and is only intended for wholesale clients. That means the information does not consider your objectives, financial situation or needs. You should consider if the information is appropriate for you and your needs. You should always consult your trusted licensed professional adviser before making any investment decision.

May 25, 2026Episode 11249 min

Markets, AI and the Anatomy of a Recession. Featuring Jeff Schulz (ClearBridge Investments)

Let us know your thoughts, questions, and who you want to hear from next! In this episode of The Exchange by EW&L, Tim Whybourne sits down with Jeff Schulz, Head of Economic and Market Strategy at ClearBridge Investments , to discuss the forces shaping the next decade of investing. Jeff is the architect of ClearBridge’s widely followed Anatomy of a Recession framework, a dashboard tracking key indicators across the U.S. economy to identify shifts in recession risk and market conditions. Together, they explore whether the Federal Reserve’s cutting cycle is over, if elevated equity valuations are a warning sign or misunderstood, and whether the recent rotation in market leadership has staying power. They also discuss geopolitical tensions, energy security, and whether the world has enough energy infrastructure to support the AI revolution. The conversation also dives into the long-term implications of artificial intelligence, from its potential impact on unemployment and productivity to whether universal basic income could eventually become reality. This is a wide-ranging discussion on markets, macro-economics, AI, geopolitics and what the investment landscape could look like over the next 10 years. Disclaimer: The information in this podcast series is for general financial educational purposes only, should not be considered financial advice and is only intended for wholesale clients. That means the information does not consider your objectives, financial situation or needs. You should consider if the information is appropriate for you and your needs. You should always consult your trusted licensed professional adviser before making any investment decision.

May 11, 2026Episode 11149 min

Australia's High Conviction Global Equity Manager on Why the Best AI Names Are Still Undervalued. Featuring Mark Arnold & Jason Orthman (Hyperion Asset Management)

Let us know your thoughts, questions, and who you want to hear from next! EW&L's Tim Whybourne sat down with Mark Arnold and Jason Orthman, CIO and Deputy CIO of Hyperion Asset Management, to talk through what may be the most consequential investment backdrop of our careers. Hyperion manages over $13 billion with a single conviction: find companies that compound earnings at double-digit rates and hold them long enough for the market to agree. In practice, that requires a pain tolerance most investors don't have. In this episode, Mark and Jason make the case that quality growth stocks, the ones most people think are expensive, are deeply undervalued on a 10-year view. They walk through how they repositioned ahead of the SaaS unwind, why they see AI as a structural shift rather than a theme, and what it means to own the full stack rather than bet on individual applications. Their forecast: 25% EPS growth across the portfolio. The current drawdown, in their view, is the entry point. Disclaimer: The information in this podcast series is for general financial educational purposes only, should not be considered financial advice and is only intended for wholesale clients. That means the information does not consider your objectives, financial situation or needs. You should consider if the information is appropriate for you and your needs. You should always consult your trusted licensed professional adviser before making any investment decision.

April 27, 2026Episode 10734 min

The World's Second Largest PE Firm on Why Europe and Asia Offer the Better Entry Point. Featuring Sueann Yeo (EQT)

Let us know your thoughts, questions, and who you want to hear from next! In this episode of The Exchange , Charles Troian sits down with Sueann Yeo, Managing Director and Head of Asia-Pacific Private Wealth Client Relations and Capital Raising at EQT, one of the world’s leading private markets investment firms. Sueann shares insights into EQT’s investment philosophy and how the firm’s Nordic heritage of active ownership shapes its approach to building better businesses through operational improvement and long-term value creation. She also discusses the growing role of private wealth in private markets and how platforms such as EQT Nexus are expanding access to institutional-quality private equity strategies for individual investors. The conversation explores the structural opportunities EQT sees across Europe and Asia, why complexity and fragmentation can create attractive investment opportunities, and how investors should think about incorporating private markets into long-term portfolio construction. For investors seeking global diversification and exposure to private markets, this episode offers a thoughtful perspective on where opportunities may lie in the next phase of the asset class’s evolution. Disclaimer: The information in this podcast series is for general financial educational purposes only, should not be considered financial advice and is only intended for wholesale clients. That means the information does not consider your objectives, financial situation or needs. You should consider if the information is appropriate for you and your needs. You should always consult your trusted licensed professional adviser before making any investment decision.

April 15, 2026Episode 10643 min

The Washington Translator: PIMCO's Libby Cantrill on Iran, US Debt, and What Markets Keep Getting Wrong

Let us know your thoughts, questions, and who you want to hear from next! EW&L's Tim Whybourne sat down with Libby Cantrill, Managing Director and Head of Public Policy at PIMCO, one of the most sought-after voices at the intersection of Washington and Wall Street. With $2 trillion under management and 20 years translating political complexity into investment insight, Libby doesn't deal in noise. She deals in signal. In this conversation, Tim and Libby covered: → Why markets consistently misread Washington's power structure → The Iran conflict and what elevated oil prices mean for the US consumer → America's $36 trillion debt problem and the 2033 inflection point nobody is talking about → The 2026 midterms and the single variable that matters most to markets → Why China's technological ambition is the underpriced geopolitical risk of our time One of the most substantive macro conversations we've had on the show. Essential listening for anyone serious about understanding how policy shapes portfolios. Disclaimer: The information in this podcast series is for general financial educational purposes only, should not be considered financial advice and is only intended for wholesale clients. That means the information does not consider your objectives, financial situation or needs. You should consider if the information is appropriate for you and your needs. You should always consult your trusted licensed professional adviser before making any investment decision.