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The Deep Dive

The Deep Dive

Hosted by Philip McKenzie

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Episodes

268

Latest episode

Jul 2026

Language

EN

About the show

The Deep Dive is a culture and insights podcast with Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. Every week, Philip goes below the surface with the people who matter the most.

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August 14, 20261 hr 6 min

Episode 269: Designing Hope & Shaping Our Future w/ Sarah Housley

Philip welcomes Sarah Housley, author of Designing Hope: Visions to Shape Our Future. In their conversation, they discuss how hope operates beyond aspiration and can become a major part of any possible future(s) we desire to create. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: Flip – Ngozi Ukazu Sarah’s Drop: Becky Chambers

July 30, 20261 hr 1 min

Episode 268: The Friend Machine & AI Companionship w/ Victoria Hetherington

Philip welcomes Victoria Hetherington, author of The Friend Machine: On the Trail of AI Companionship. In their conversation, they explore how AI has become a substitute for human relationships and what that means to personal and societal intimacy. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: Real Humans (Swedish)

July 23, 20261 hr 7 min

Episode 267: Utopian/Dystopian Play w/ Matthew Leggatt

Philip welcomes Matthew Leggatt, author of Play in Utopian and Dystopian Fiction and Wastelands and Wonderlands: Utopias and Dystopias in Film & Literature to the show. In their conversation, they discuss how the way utopia/dystopia is framed in our literature, media and film impact how we see our future possibilities. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: Columbus and Other Cannibals – Jack D. Forbes Matthews’s Drop: “The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas” – Ursula K. Leguin “Ones Who Stay and Fight” – N.K. Jemison The Grasshopper: Games, Life and Utopia – Bernard Suits

July 16, 20261 hr 6 min

Episode 266: Don’t Talk About Politics w/ Sarah Stein Lubrano

Philip welcomes Sarah Stein Lubrano, author Don’t Talk About Politics: How to Change 21st Century Minds to the show. In their conversation, they discuss how political conversations have a limited ability to change minds and how we can better share and adapt new ideas. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: Zora Neale Hurston – Novels & Stories (Library of America) Sarah’s Drop: The Venomous Lumpsucker – Ned Beauman Special Guest: Sarah Stein Lubrano.

July 2, 20261 hr 3 min

Episode 265: Artificially Intelligent & Being Human w/ David Eliot

Philip welcomes David Eliot, author of Artificially Intelligent: The Very Human Story of AI to the show. In their conversation, they discuss how the AI landscape is shifting how we think about human capabilities and how to understand the social and behavioral shifts due to AI. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: Ivan Van Sertima- They Came Before Columbus David’s Drop: Diane Proudfoot – Turing Archive David Graeber – The Dawn of Everything Dr. Brett Aho – Data Communism: Constructing a National Data Ecosystem Special Guest: David Eliot.

June 25, 202651 min

Episode 264: Making Care Work w/ Nancy Folbre

Philip welcomes Nancy Folbre, scholar and author of Making Care Work: Why Our Economy Should Put People First to the show. In their conversation they discuss what are the possible viable future(s) when care becomes a critical component of our economic and social lives.  The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.  Philip’s Drop: Mad Men (AMC+)  Nancy’s Drop: Street/Protest Art  **Special Guest: Nancy Folbre.

June 18, 202659 min

Episode 263: The Future That Was w/ Dubra Mitra

Philip welcomes Dubra Mitra, scholar and author of The Future That Was: A History of Third World Feminism Against Authoritarianism. In their conversation they discuss the various global women collectives that organized their writing, publishing and intelligence gathering in the face of post-colonialism and rising authoritarianism and the critical lessons we can draw from their work. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: The Count of Monte Cristo (PBS/Masterpiece) Dubra’s Drop Fela Kuti: Fear No Man (podcast) Fatema Mernissi  https://fatemamernissi.com/Special Guest: Dubra Mitra.

June 5, 20261 hr 12 min

Episode 262: How Not to Save the World w/ Anthea Lawson

Philip welcomes Anthea Lawson, author How Not to Save the World: Doing Good Without Annoying Everyone. In their conversation they tackle the state of progressive politics and whether it is possible to change someone’s mind across cultural and political beliefs. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: East of Eden – John Steinbeck Anthea’s Drop: Feminism for a World on Fire – Nastasha Walter The Golden Notebook – Doris Lessing

May 29, 202658 min

Episode 261: Ethics and Culture of AI w/ Clara Hawking

Philip welcomes AI expert Clara Hawking to the show. In their conversation, they discuss the current cultural, regulatory and ethical journey of artificial intelligence and what is inevitable and what isn’t. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: Maus – Art Spiegelman Clara’s Drop: Klara and the Sun – Kazuo Ishiguro Special Guest: Clara Hawking.

May 21, 20261 hr 3 min

Episode 260: Unvaccinated Under God w/ Kira Ganga Kieffer

Philip welcomes Kira Ganga Kieffer, author of Unvaccinated Under God: Religion and Vacccine Hesitancy in Modern America to the show. In their conversation, they trace the origins of what is popularly known as the “anti-vaxx” movement and how the religious right has influenced its trajectory. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: Paprika (film) Kira’s Drop: The Spirit Catches You And You Fall Down – Anya Selleck Special Guest: Kira Ganga Kieffer.

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