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Aug 2026

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“The Corner Series” is a multiperspective podcast series by McGuireWoods featuring commentaries from lawyers, bankers and a number of specialists about the developments and issues dominating today’s middle-market private equity. Tune in with McGuireWoods partner, Geoff Cockrell as he and specialists share real-world insight to help enhance your knowledge. McGuireWoods is a full-service firm providing legal and public affairs solutions to corporate, individual, and nonprofit clients worldwide for more than 200 years collectively. Our commitment to excellence in everything we do gives our clients a competitive edge in everything they do. Our law firm, over its 186-year history, has earned the loyalty of our many long-standing clients with a deep understanding of their businesses, and broad skills in corporate transactions, high-stakes disputes, and complex regulatory and compliance matters. To learn more about our discussions, please email host Geoff Cockrell at gcockrell@mcguirewoods.com or visit our website at mcguirewoods.com. This series was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this series, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this installment. The views, information or opinions expressed are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This series should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

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August 12, 202621 min

Episode 137: The Compliance Playbook Behind Today’s Booming Wellness Clinics, With John Bradburn and Chris Seitz

As private equity investment in healthcare compliance and wellness accelerates, oversight infrastructure helps non-physician providers to scale. Dr. Christopher Seitz , CEO and CMO of GuardianMD , joins John Bradburn , a partner at Elements Health Investors , to discuss mid-level providers reshaping access to care. Chris details Guardian’s role in helping clinicians navigate licensing rules. Guardian launched five years ago to build compliance infrastructure for telemedicine and outpatient providers. John explains Elements’ thesis of backing companies that improve outcomes at lower cost. McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell steers the conversation toward AI’s growing role in medical oversight, calling it a massive opportunity. John closes by addressing misconceptions about private equity in healthcare and outlining Guardian’s growth strategy. Connect and Learn More ☑️ Christopher Seitz | LinkedIn ☑️ Gaurdian Medical Direction | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube ☑️ John Bradburn | LinkedIn ☑️ Element Health Investors | LinkedIn ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

July 29, 202619 min

Episode 136: Med Spa Growth and Capital Strategy, With Amanda Blank

Amanda Blank , CEO of Founders Beauty Group , joins McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell to discuss the growth of her strategic med spa platform, built on a hub-and-spoke model across four geographies through the acquisition of established, doctor-owned, cash-pay practices. Amanda shares how she evaluated different capital sources during the company's growth, including her decision to partner with high-net-worth family offices rather than private equity investors at that stage of the business, and discusses the factors that informed that approach. She also explores why specialized industry knowledge matters for investors in the med spa sector, why GLP-1s are unlikely to serve as an anchor service, where durable competitive advantages exist in a relatively low-barrier market and how her experience leading a woman-owned platform has shaped the company's growth. Connect and Learn More ☑️ Amanda Blank | LinkedIn ☑️ Founders Beauty Group | LinkedIn ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

July 15, 202620 min

Episode 135: The Thaw Has Arrived in Provider Services M&A, With J. Kyle Brown

The provider services M&A market is probably approaching 50% of peak deal volume — well below historical norms — yet J. Kyle Brown sees real momentum building. Kyle is managing director and lead of the provider services group at Brown Gibbons Lang & Company . In this conversation with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell , Kyle unpacks how, after holding over a hundred private equity provider services assets for six years, demand finally feels different – the first real shift since early 2023. They examine the evolution from TopCo MSO equity to near-term incentive structures and discuss which subsectors — ASCs, infusion, ENT, and interventional pain — are drawing the most investor attention. Connect and Learn More ☑️ J. Kyle Brown | LinkedIn ☑️ Brown Gibbons Lang & Company | LinkedIn | X ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

July 8, 202615 min

Episode 134: Healthcare Compliance as a Deal Asset, With Wiks Moffat

Compliance is no longer a fire drill to be ignored. Wiks Moffat , founder and CEO of Calyx Compliance with 30 years of healthcare compliance experience, says the enforcement environment has accelerated, with AI now helping regulators spot outliers. In conversation with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell , Wiks explains how most companies still aren’t doing enough self-assessment, how billing and coding is almost always where scrutiny begins, and how compliance can generate a clear ROI by surfacing missed revenue opportunities post-acquisition. Tune in for guidance on compliance staffing thresholds and why sellers should start due diligence 18 months ahead. Connect and Learn More ☑️ Wiks Moffat ☑️ Calyx Compliance | LinkedIn ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

June 17, 202619 min

Episode 133: One Portal for Every Perinatal Journey, With Ian Gardner

Ian Gardner and his wife struggled to assemble a holistic care team during her pregnancy. At the end of their journey, they had a son — and a solution they called MilkWise, a one-stop portal where mothers can access experts and specialists so they can focus on their infants, not on searching through their various healthcare packages. “We saw platforms and companies that provided specific components, say, for postpartum depression, pelvic floor rehab or lactation, but no single destination where a mom could go,” Ian explains to McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell . Tune in as Ian describes how MilkWise uses lactation consulting as its market wedge, why payers — not providers — are the biggest operational challenge, and the three pillars MikeWise is built on: products, providers and payers. Connect and Learn More ☑️ Ian Gardner | LinkedIn ☑️ MilkWise | Linkedin | Instagram ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

June 3, 202622 min

Episode 132: Navigating Nuances of Life Sciences Post-Closing, With Amy Cassalia

McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell invites colleague Amy Cassalia — whose practice is heavily weighted on life sciences transactions — to share insights about the post-closing period of these complex deals. The wide-ranging conversation covers the dynamics of “contingent consideration,” investor risk and buyers’ leverage. Amy explains why she sees high-level use of contingent payments in life sciences deals and why the term “commercially reasonable” often becomes critical when a deal spirals into litigation. Stay tuned as she unpacks leading trends. Top among them? The increasing use of earn-outs. Connect and Learn More ☑️ Amy Cassalia | LinkedIn ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

May 20, 202623 min

Episode 131: GP-Led Secondaries in Lower Middle Market, With Chris Lawrence

The secondary market has grown to roughly $220 billion as GPs and LPs scramble for liquidity in a private markets cycle stuck in a “worse distribution profile” for three and a half years. Chris Lawrence , managing partner at Labyrinth Capital Partners, joins McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell to demystify GP-led secondaries. Chris breaks down continuation vehicles, strip sales and fund restructurings. He explains why secondary pricing ranges from par to as low as 72 cents on the dollar and makes the case that GP-leds are now a mature, institutionally accepted portfolio management tool. Connect and Learn More ☑️ Chris Lawrence | LinkedIn ☑️ Labyrinth Capital Partners on LinkedIn ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

May 6, 202621 min

Episode 130: Oncology and Retina: Follow the Drug Spend, With Jeanne Proia

Oncology commands roughly 40% of the national drug spend. Retina is close behind. “If you follow the drug spend, you’ll find that the distributors are really building an ecosystem around it,” says Jeanne Proia , managing director at Cross Keys Capital and president of its healthcare services group. In this conversation with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell , Jeanne unpacks the market. Unlike traditional PE deals, she says, these transactions leave physicians holding their own equity inside a long-term MSO relationship, trading the second bite at the apple for cash upfront and taking the risk off. As she explains: “They’re able to bring a lot more synergies just because they’re getting to be bigger and bigger, and they can use that money to support all the synergies, whether it’s clinical trials, recruiting or RCM.” Connect and Learn More ☑️ Jeanne Proia | LinkedIn ☑️ Cross Keys Capital | LinkedIn ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

April 23, 202622 min

Episode 129 Special Crossover Edition: McGuireWoods Healthcare PE Conference Preview

This special episode is a crossover between The Corner Series and Provident’s Healthcare DealCast released across both McGuireWoods’ and Provident Healthcare Partners’ channels. McGuireWoods partner Geoff Cockrell is joined by Steve Grassa , director of Provident Healthcare Partners, for a wide-ranging discussion on the healthcare services landscape including the provider services market, opportunities for emerging buyers and what defines an “A-caliber” asset. This conversation also serves as a preview of McGuireWoods’ Healthcare Private Equity Conference later this month, where Geoff will lead a banker-focused panel discussion. Connect and Learn More ☑️ Steve Grassa ☑️ Provident Healthcare Partners on LinkedIn | YouTube ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

April 16, 202622 min

Episode 128: Building a Gastroenterology Program That’s ‘Second to None’, With Matt Devine

How did Allied Digestive Health build a gastroenterology program that’s “second to none” with roughly 200 gastroenterologists across New York and New Jersey? CEO Matt Devine unpacks the strategies, such as investing in technology and having one EMR across the platform that’s world class. “If we’re just going out and getting larger, that’s nice and that’s admirable. But what we really need to do at the end of the day is improve outcomes. And that’s what our doctors take pride in every day,” he tells McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell . Tune in for Matt’s insights about what Geoff calls the “triple aims” in healthcare: improving outcomes, improving access and controlling system cost. Connect and Learn More ☑️ Matt Devine | LinkedIn ☑️ Allied Digestive Health | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X | YouTube ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.