
S2.01. You Can Still Burn Out Doing What You Love
Welcome to Season 2. Here I sit down with Rachel Barnard and discuss her time of founding the Organization called Young New Yorkers which prevented over 1,400 adolescents in New York City from being incarcerated. We discuss the burnout that can come along with pursuing a dream, knowing yourself and staying true to who that is.I appreciate if you give your feedback in the comments so I know what my audience is thinking and feeling after watching these interviews.Please check out TheContagiousThoughtsPodcast.com to listen, give, and even shop my online store.Episode SummaryWe dive into the power of creativity as a tool for social change and personal healing. Rachel explains how she pitched a public art project as a court-mandated program, effectively humanizing young people in the eyes of the law beyond their mistakes or past decisions. Rachel & I then discuss the bittersweet reality of burning out from the very work she loved and the courage it took to eventually step down and pivot.We explore having personal, internal integrity —the practice of deeply listening to yourself and the deep knowing inside of you even when it contradicts your external commitments. Whether you are an entrepreneur, a creative, or someone navigating a major life transition, this episode serves as a reminder that your worth is not tied to your productivity and that resting is an essential part of the creative cycle and flow.Key Takeaways Art as Advocacy: How creative expression can disarm systems of power and advocate people by showing who they truly are, apart from their mistakes or past decisions.The Paradox of Fulfillment: Why it's possible to be fulfilled and burnt out at the same time.Internal vs. External Integrity: Learning to distinguish between the promises we make to the world and what we owe to ourselves.The Beauty of the Void: Navigating the uncomfortable space between ending one chapter and starting the next.Self-Compassion in High-Performance Cultures: Strategies for dropping self-judgment and becoming a better friend to yourself.Chapters: 00:00 - Intro & Giving People Their Flowers04:41 - Intro & Giving People Their Flowers08:52 - The Power of Art & Creativity in Life14:20 - Using Art to Reframe Identity & Advocate 18:11 - Why Creativity Disarms the System24:40 - Creativity as a Foundation for Business31:11 - Navigating Burnout & The Paradox of Fulfillment37:48 - Creating Restorative Spaces41:40 - Internal Integrity & The Courage to Pivot55:38 - Dealing with Comparison & Insecurity01:03:00 - The Importance of Self-Compassion01:12:19 - Coping Through Nature & Artistic Practice01:18:22 - No Regrets: Final Reflections01:30:30 - Outro & How to Support the PodcastP.S...One of the things I haven't been as open about on this podcast is my faith - I didn't want to come off too "religious" to people or turn people away who may be of a different faith or belief. The main reason why I started this podcast was because I wanted to inspire people to live the life that God created them to live - using the gifts and abilities he gave them. I am continuing it because I feel that there are still things that God wants me to give to the world. I am not 100% positive on what that might be, but I figure I'll find out as I go and for now, I'll keep giving what I got. I am a Christian, the Bible is a major guide for my life, and I am a student of Jesus, constantly learning from him and trying to figure things out. I am not the strongest Christian as some might perceive strength, but it does say in the bible that when we are weak, we are actually strong because his power is made perfect in us, so I guess I can be okay with weakness.God bless and thanks for checking out the Podcast.



