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Consumer VC: Venture Capital I B2C Startups I Commerce | Early-Stage Investing

Consumer VC: Venture Capital I B2C Startups I Commerce | Early-Stage Investing

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Jun 2026

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Consumer VC takes a look into early-stage consumer investing and venture capital. If you are interested in learning about consumer trends, have a b2c business and interested in learning about the fundraising process at the early stage, you have come to the right place. Mike interviews some of the top venture capitalists in the world that focus on B2C and consumer type companies or have a deep track record investing in these categories such as marketplaces, SaaS, social, CPG and non-tech subscription. Mike also interviews founders that are building some of the most disruptive consumer facing companies in the world. The conversation usually includes the insight the founder discovered, fundraising strategy, and the pitch. This podcast also includes bonus episodes. Each bonus episode dives into a particular subject that might not have to due with the fundraise or venture capital, but still would be helpful to founders. For example, a bonus episode on brand strategy or how to construct a board of directors. All bonus episodes will be clearly labeled. For all episodes, please visit www.theconsumervc.com. For updates, you can follow @mikegelb on Twitter. www.theconsumervc.com

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June 5, 20261 hr 11 min

GLP-1s, Protein, Fiber, Peptides, and the M&A Opportunity Behind the Health Shift

Listen on YouTube, SpotifyHey friends,On today’s episode, I chat with Nicolas McCoy, Managing Director of Whipstitch Capital, one of the sharpest observers of consumer health, wellness, food, beverage, and supplement trends.Nick spends his days studying what separates niche consumer brands from the ones that break into the mainstream. He analyzes everything from M&A activity and retail data to emerging consumer behaviors around GLP-1s, peptides, protein, hormones, wearables, and preventative healthcare.Today, consumers are becoming the CEO of their own healthcare.They’re wearing Oura Rings. They’re tracking glucose levels. They’re taking GLP-1s. They’re researching peptides. They’re experimenting with hormone optimization. And they’re making purchasing decisions based on health outcomes rather than traditional brand loyalty.Nick argues that this shift is creating one of the largest tailwinds consumer brands have seen in years.As consumers take more responsibility for their health, demand is accelerating across better-for-you food, supplements, functional beverages, protein products, fiber products, wellness services, and preventative healthcare solutions.We also dive into how strategic acquirers evaluate brands today, why profitability matters more than ever, what makes a brand attractive for acquisition, and why the current M&A environment looks dramatically different than it did a decade ago.This episode is packed with insights for founders building consumer brands, investors tracking wellness trends, and anyone trying to understand where consumer behavior is heading next.Here’s what you’ll learn:✅ Why consumers are becoming the CEO of their own healthcare✅ How GLP-1s are changing food, supplements, and wellness products✅ Why better-for-you brands are outperforming the broader grocery market✅ How wearables are accelerating preventative healthcare adoption✅ The surprising growth of peptides and what it signals about consumer behavior✅ Why protein demand may still have room to grow✅ The overlooked opportunity around fiber products✅ How hormones and wellness are becoming mainstream conversations✅ What strategic acquirers actually look for when buying brands✅ Why profitability matters more than ever in consumer M&A✅ How investors determine a brand’s “headroom” for growth✅ Why crossing from natural retail into mass retail is so important✅ The role private equity is playing in today’s consumer ecosystem✅ How major acquisitions are attracting more capital into consumer brandsTimestamps00:00 Intro01:11 Consumers becoming the CEOs of their healthcare06:07 The state of consumer M&A today09:48 Why profitability matters more than ever12:09 How to know when to sell your company13:51 Understanding brand headroom17:11 Which retail channels create the most value20:00 Crossing from natural to mass retail24:30 The K-shaped consumer economy explained27:45 Why lower-income consumers are adopting health trends faster29:13 The surprising growth of injectable health products32:40 RFK Jr., MAHA, and peptide awareness34:42 The future impact of GLP-1 adoption37:26 Protein's next phase of growth39:24 The future of peptides and personalized health42:17 Why injections are becoming more mainstream44:31 The rise of gummies as a supplement format48:19 Women's hormone health opportunities51:31 Mental health, wellness, and consumer behavior53:23 Are founders selling because they want to or have to?54:36 Is the consumer market back?57:06 The growing role of private equity in CPG59:23 The evolution of billion-dollar consumer exits01:01:17 Why more capital is flowing into consumer brands01:02:13 Categories Nick is watching closely01:07:51 Personal experiences that shaped Nick's career01:11:15 Closing thoughtsThanks for listening! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.theconsumervc.com/subscribe

May 27, 20261 hr 14 min

30 Years of Pre-Seed: Blue Bottle, Sweetgreen, Modern Animal, and Why Consumer Never Goes Out of Favor

Listen on Spotify, YouTubeHey friends,On today’s episode, I chat with Tony Conrad, partner at True Ventures and one of the earliest investors behind companies like Blue Bottle Coffee, Sweetgreen, Madison Reed, and Modern Animal.Tony’s career is unconventional. He spent his first 10 years professionally inside Danone, moved into Silicon Valley during the early internet era, founded multiple startups, and eventually became one of the most respected early-stage investors in tech and consumer.We talk about why he believes founders are raising too much money too early, how inflated valuations quietly destroy companies, and why getting the wrong investor around the table can create problems years later. He also shares what he looks for in founders, why curiosity matters more than polished pitches, and how True Ventures thinks differently about backing companies at the earliest stages.We also go deep into consumer investing, four-wall businesses, and why Tony still believes there will always be massive opportunities in consumer, even when the market says otherwise.This episode feels less like a venture capital interview and more like a masterclass on judgment, timing, leadership, and building enduring companies.Consumer VC is brought to you by:The Hidden Gems: There’s a lot of bull$#!+ in the Agency landscape. That’s why Brand Founders and Executives big and new trust: The Hidden Gems. They provide the most optimal boutique Agencies to conquer any goals/needs with top quality and efficiency. Brands get preferred rates. Can’t lose. They’re supporting the growth of incredible brands like Dr. Squatch, Monster Energy, Gorilla Mind, Saatva, and many more. David Drexler (founder) has agreed to provide the service for FREE forever to anyone in the Consumer VC community or mentions Consumer VC.Whatever your need, just send a request and they’ve got the solution... it’s that easy! –> david@thehiddengems.comHere’s what you’ll learn:✅ Why Tony left Danone to chase startups in Silicon Valley✅ How the dot-com crash shaped his investing philosophy✅ Why Blue Bottle immediately felt like a venture-scale business✅ How True Ventures evaluates founders at the earliest stage✅ Why founders should avoid overheating early valuations✅ The hidden dangers of raising too much money too fast✅ What separates great founders from bad ones✅ Why founder quality matters more than market misses✅ How venture firms think about ownership and fund returns✅ Why Tony believes consumer never goes out of favor✅ What excites him most about AI infrastructure and applications✅ How mega funds change founder-investor relationships✅ Lessons from building and selling About.me✅ Why leadership and resilience matter more than everTimestamps00:00 Intro01:00 Leaving Danone for Silicon Valley04:00 Why tech felt more exciting than CPG05:30 The early days of startup investing08:00 Moving to San Francisco during the internet boom10:00 Lessons from the dot-com crash13:00 Is AI in a bubble right now?15:00 How Tony joined True Ventures17:00 Building startups while investing simultaneously20:00 The burnout of being both founder and VC22:00 Why Tony loves four-wall retail businesses23:00 The Blue Bottle investment story27:00 How True Ventures makes investment decisions29:00 Why being a generalist investor matters32:00 Angel investing vs venture investing34:00 What “venture-scale” really means35:00 The one mistake Tony hates making36:00 How to identify the right founders39:00 Why founders shouldn’t rush fundraising41:00 The danger of inflated valuations45:00 What founders should look for in investors47:00 When founders should step aside as CEO50:00 Balancing founder support with LP responsibility51:00 Lessons from building About.me55:00 Why digital identity still matters56:00 Why consumer investing is underrated58:00 AI infrastructure vs AI applications01:00:00 Consumer AI opportunities Tony is excited about01:02:00 Investing in competing companies01:05:00 The problem with mega funds01:07:00 Lessons from Slack & Stewart Butterfield01:08:00 Favorite books & leadership lessons01:11:00 AI, job displacement & optimism for the future01:14:00 Final thoughtsThanks for listening! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.theconsumervc.com/subscribe

May 7, 20261 hr 12 min

Kill Your Darlings: How Elavi Found Their Hero Product with Michelle Razavi

Listen on Spotify, YouTubeHey friends,On today’s episode, I chat with Michelle Razavi, founder and CEO of Elavi, the better-for-you snack brand known for its protein brownies and dessert-inspired products made with clean ingredients.Michelle started Elavi while working long days at Sephora and teaching fitness classes at Equinox, struggling to find protein snacks that didn’t upset her stomach. That frustration led her to start making her own products at home, which eventually turned into a fast-growing CPG brand now sold in retailers like Costco, Whole Foods, and H-E-B.Elavi evolved from protein bars to cashew spreads to protein brownies. But in order to get to protein brownies, Michelle made the tough decision to kill her first product line. They figured out product-market fit through “permissible indulgence.”She also shares how Elavi scaled quickly through Costco, how she thinks about profitable growth vs vanity retail, and why discipline around unit economics matters more than ever in today’s funding environment.If you’re interested in building a food brand, retail strategy, or how to navigate product pivots, this episode is a great look at what it really takes to build and scale in CPG.Consumer VC is brought to you by:The Hidden Gems: There’s a lot of bull$#!+ in the Agency landscape. That’s why Brand Founders and Executives big and new trust: The Hidden Gems. They provide the most optimal boutique Agencies to conquer any goals/needs with top quality and efficiency. Brands get preferred rates. Can’t lose. They’re supporting the growth of incredible brands like Dr. Squatch, Monster Energy, Gorilla Mind, Saatva, and many more. David Drexler (founder) has agreed to provide the service for FREE forever to anyone in the Consumer VC community or mentions Consumer VC.Whatever your need, just send a request and they’ve got the solution... it’s that easy! –> david@thehiddengems.comHere’s what you’ll learn:✅ Why Michelle killed her first product line (and why it was the right move)✅ How Elavi found product-market fit with protein brownies✅ Why “permissible indulgence” is working in today’s market✅ How to use Costco as a growth and validation channel✅ The difference between profitable vs vanity retail accounts✅ How to think about channel strategy across mass vs natural✅ Why timing matters when expanding into retailers like Whole Foods✅ How to approach fundraising as a first-time founder✅ Why building in public can attract the right investors✅ How to balance growth with profitability in CPGTimestamps00:00 Intro01:00 Working 16-hour days before starting03:00 The problem with protein snacks05:00 Building products at home07:00 Launching right before COVID10:00 Losing in-person sampling overnight14:00 Why the first product didn’t scale18:00 Finding product-market fit with a new category22:00 Killing the original product line27:00 The “permissible indulgence” thesis31:00 Launching protein brownies35:00 Getting into Costco39:00 How Costco changed the business43:00 Retail strategy: profitability first47:00 The dangers of bad retail deals51:00 Channel strategy & cash flow realities55:00 Cold outreach that actually worked59:00 Why demos matter more than you think01:03:00 Packaging that converts instantly01:07:00 Fundraising mistakes founders make01:11:00 Why chasing investors doesn’t workThanks for listening! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.theconsumervc.com/subscribe

June 2, 20251 hr 2 min

🎧 He Saved His Daughter’s Life by Creating Kate Farms. Now He’s Disrupting Energy Drinks with Lucky Energy

→ Listen on Spotify, Apple, YouTubeToday’s episode is brought to you by, Highbeam.Running a brand? Highbeam is the all-in-one banking and cash management platform built specifically for consumer brands.It combines no-fee banking, automated treasury to maximize yield on idle cash, flexible credit, bill pay, and live 13 week cash flow — plus AI agents that automate tedious manual spreadsheet workThink: fast answers to ad hoc sales and finance questions, cash flow forecasting and scenario modeling, benchmarking, and more.Brands like Birddogs, New York or Nowhere, Ridge, and Avocado use Highbeam to stay ahead of cash flow, make significantly more money on idle cash, and access credit that fits how brands actually operate.Build your brand. Keep your cash.Hey friends,Our guest today is Richard Laver, the founder of both Kate Farms and Lucky Energy.Richard created Kate Farms—an allergen-free, plant-based medical nutrition company—to save his daughter Kate’s life. After scaling the business and eventually stepping away, he launched Lucky Energy, a clean energy drink brand aimed at offering a better-for-you alternative in a crowded market. The company recently raised a $14.2 million Series A1 led by Maveron.We discuss:* 00:00 – Introduction & Mike’s Overview* 01:24 – Who is Richard Laver? Plane Crash, Loss & Life Mission* 04:43 – The Origin of Kate Farms: Saving His Daughter’s Life* 08:04 – Building a Formula Business Without a Background in Nutrition* 12:09 – How Kate Farms Scaled Nationwide* 17:20 – Raising Capital & Growing the Brand to $75M Series C* 22:00 – Why He Left Kate Farms* 24:04 – The Birth of Lucky Energy: From Pain to Purpose Again* 29:00 – Ingredient Strategy & Clean Energy Drink Philosophy* 34:36 – Building a Brand in a Saturated, Cutthroat Category* 38:47 – Why Energy Drink Startups Fail & Lucky’s Retail Approach* 43:52 – Raising $14M Series A1: What Investors Saw* 50:52 – Lessons from Healthcare Branding vs. Mass Market* 56:00 – Red Bull vs. Lucky: Marketing War or Mission-Driven Movement? 60:37 – Final Reflections: What’s Harder—Hospitals or Retail?Consumer VC is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.theconsumervc.com/subscribe

May 15, 202558 min

🎧How to Win at Pre-Seed: Consumer Signals, Red Flags, and Venture-Scale Bets with Shamin Walsh of BAM Ventures

→ Listen on Spotify, Apple, YouTubeToday’s episode is brought to you by, Highbeam.Running a brand? Highbeam is the all-in-one banking and cash management platform built specifically for consumer brands.It combines no-fee banking, automated treasury to maximize yield on idle cash, flexible credit, bill pay, and live 13 week cash flow — plus AI agents that automate tedious manual spreadsheet workThink: fast answers to ad hoc sales and finance questions, cash flow forecasting and scenario modeling, benchmarking, and more.Brands like Birddogs, New York or Nowhere, Ridge, and Avocado use Highbeam to stay ahead of cash flow, make significantly more money on idle cash, and access credit that fits how brands actually operate.Build your brand. Keep your cash.Hey friends,A big thank you to Odile Roujol for introducing me to our guest today—Shamin Walsh, Managing Director at BAM Ventures. BAM is an early-stage, consumer-focused venture capital firm based in Los Angeles that’s focused on investing at the pre-seed stage. They’ve backed some truly iconic companies:* Honey* Cotopaxi* NerdWallet* Zola, Away* Thrive Market The list goes on. Seriously, some of the most exciting consumer success stories out there.In this episode, we dig into:* 03:44 Why She Joined BAM originally & What Makes the Firm Different* 07:00 Is Investing in Consumer Still Sexy? (Hint: Yes, If You Do It Right)* 10:07 Power Law Returns in CPG & Brand Exits* 13:21 Why Fund Size Dictates Strategy* 16:10 Balancing Brand, Commerce Infra & Consumer Tech* 17:30 What BAM Looks for in Founders* 20:15 Case Study: How Thrive Market Nailed Consumer Behavior* 23:15 The Danger of False Signals in Consumer Startups* 26:00 How BAM Thinks About Reserves & Follow-Ons* 28:20 Staying Price Disciplined (Even in the 2021 Hype Cycle)* 30:00 Why Founders Pick BAM Over Bigger Funds* 32:00 Capital Efficiency ≠ Always Bootstrapping* 35:09 Fundraising Strategy & How to Navigate Future Rounds* 37:00 What Early Traction Signals Actually Matter* 39:10 How BAM Measures Stickiness vs. Trendiness* 44:00 Could a New Social Platform Still Win?* 46:00 BAM’s View on AI: Not a Strategy, Just a Tool* 48:00 ⚡ Rapid Fire Round: Trends, Products, Books* 52:00 Why “The Little Prince” Still Inspires Shamin This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.theconsumervc.com/subscribe

May 2, 202555 min

How Ithaca Hummus Hit $50M Without VC or PE — and the Strategy Behind Growing Slow, Then Fast

Also available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTubeHey friends,Our guest today is Chris Kirby, Founder of Ithaca Hummus. Ithaca Hummus is known for its super fresh, clean-label approach. One of my favorite parts of this conversation was hearing how Chris grew the brand—staying in a handful of retailers for years before turning on the gas and scaling nationally. We also get into how he achieved a negative cash conversion cycle (which is wild), and his thoughtful approach to choosing strategic partners.This issue is brought to you by Highbeam.Get the credit you need to stay ahead. Highbeam is the all-in-one banking and cash management platform built for consumer brands.With tariffs stretching working capital, brands are turning to Highbeam for flexible credit lines and charge cards designed around how they actually operate.Brands like Birddogs, New York or Nowhere, Ridge, and Avocado use Highbeam to access capital, manage cash, and scale without hiring a full finance team.Build your brand. Keep your cash.Includes a free 3-month trial of the AI Analyst.Time stamps:* 03:24 - From Fine Dining to Culinary Burnout* 06:36 - Discovering a Gap in Ithaca’s Food Scene* 10:46 - Launching Ithaca Hummus from a Camp Kitchen* 13:54 - The Addictive Energy of Farmer’s Markets* 19:15 - No Brokers: Selling to Co-ops Door-to-Door* 24:33 - Sampling, Promotions & Retailer Education* 28:10 - $1M to $3.5M: Strategic Investment from Co-Man* 33:50 - Saying No to VCs: Building Without External Pressure* 37:17 - What Strategic Actually Means in CPG* 41:50 - Branding, Packaging & the Power of “Owning Taste”* 45:33 - Creating Viral Flavors (e.g. French Onion Hummus)* 47:59 - Graza x Ithaca: Strategic Co-Branded Launch* 50:00 - Long-Term Vision: Legacy, Not Liquidity* 53:50 - Lightning Round: Books, Beliefs & Brands This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.theconsumervc.com/subscribe

April 22, 202558 min

Are You Building for the Right Reasons — or Just Because the Category Is Hot? Should there be a Better Business Bureau for VCs?

Also available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTubeThis issue is brought to you by Highbeam.Get the credit you need to stay ahead. Highbeam is the all-in-one banking and cash management platform built for consumer brands.With tariffs stretching working capital, brands are turning to Highbeam for flexible credit lines and charge cards designed around how they actually operate.Brands like Birddogs, New York or Nowhere, Ridge, and Avocado use Highbeam to access capital, manage cash, and scale without hiring a full finance team.Build your brand. Keep your cash.Includes a free 3-month trial of the AI Analyst.Hi friends,Thank you to Taylor Foxman for the introduction to this week’s guest, Sid Banthiya. Sid is an angel investor and advisor to many consumer brands – like Aerflo, HOLY, and Splendid Spoon. He was previously the Chief Strategy Officer at Milk Bar and Head of Corporate Development at Blue Apron.We focus this conversation on two of the articles he wrote:* Avoiding the road to mediocrity* The case for a Better Business Bureau for investorsWe explore what happens when founders build for the wrong reasons, how investors sometimes fuel the problem, and why ambition (or lack of it) shows up in your strategy, not just your pitch deck.We discuss:00:47 Why Sid Wrote “Avoiding the Road to Mediocrity”03:12 The Venture Trap: Chasing Capital vs. Solving Problems06:00 Is VC the Right Path for Every Founder?08:31 Fundraising Focus vs. Revenue Focus10:00 The Rise of Too Much Capital in VC13:10 Can Founders Course-Correct Their Mission?16:00 Case Study: Hungryroot’s Strategic Pivot18:25 How to Decide if You Should Start a Company20:00 Bootstrap vs. Venture: When and Why22:50 Go Slow or Scale Fast? What Founders Should Know26:00 Investing in Hot Markets: Supplements, Protein & More29:00 Valuation vs. Exit Reality: Why Price Discipline Matters32:00 Waterfalls, Liquidation Preferences & Founder Equity37:00 The Case for a “Better Business Bureau” for Investors41:00 What Makes a VC Truly Valuable44:00 Rapid Fire: Consumer Trends, Favorite Products, VC Myths52:00 Sid’s Book Recommendations This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.theconsumervc.com/subscribe

March 20, 202557 min

Will AI Screw IP Holders, Is Content Getting Better or Worse, and The Future of Journalism with Ishan Sinha, Partner at Point72 Ventures

You can also listen to this episode on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTubeHi Friends,On the latest episode of Consumer VC, I chat with Ishan Sinha, Partner at Point72 Ventures. Point72 Ventures is a global venture capital fund that builds on Steve Cohen's decades of public and private market investing experience. Ishan co-leads their consumer group.In this episode, Ishan shares insights into the evolving role of AI in consumer startups, the challenges of AI-driven media, and the future of monetization for creators. He discusses the impact of AI on intellectual property, whether VCs are still underestimating consumer AI, and how AI-powered businesses can scale effectively. Ishan also breaks down venture capital trends, investment strategies, and lessons from past market cycles.* Why Did Point72 Start a VC Fund?* From Public Market Investing to Venture Capital* Are VCs Underestimating Consumer AI?* AI in Media & Content Creation * AI vs. The Music Industry* Lessons from Napster to Spotify* How AI Can Benefit Artists & Creators* The Future of AI in Publishing & Journalism* How AI is Reshaping Consumer Tech* Investing in AI Startups: What VCs Look For* The Role of AI in Business Models & Monetization* Will the Next Big AI Innovation Look Like a Toy?* Lightning Round: Biggest Consumer Trends, Myths About VC & More 41:30 Final Takeaways & Where to Follow Ishan SinhaThanks for listening. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.theconsumervc.com/subscribe

February 21, 202554 min

Selling Shorter Shorts to a Successful Exit, The Story of Chubbies with Preston Rutherford, Co-Founder of Chubbies

You can also listen to this episode on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTubeHey friends,On today’s episode I interview Preston Rutherford, Co-Founder of Chubbies. Chubbies is the weekend apparel brand and leaders of the proper-length shorts revolution. Preston is also the founder of Marathon, the only platform that quantifies the revenue impact of brand.We discuss:* Challenges in Early Manufacturing* Building a Brand Identity* Raising Capital and Business Growth* Navigating Co-Founder Dynamics* Shifting Focus from top line to EBITDA* Pressure and Growth Metrics* The Decision to Sell Chubbies* Channel Expansion and Inventory Management* How to measure brand* What’s venture-backable in consumerEnjoy! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.theconsumervc.com/subscribe

February 5, 202553 min

He Raised $21 million in Less Than 90 Days, Founded World Golf Tour that was acquired by TopGolf, and Now is Scaling Hero Bread ––– YuChiang Cheng, CEO of Hero Bread

You can also listen to this episode on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTubeHi friends,Our guest today is YuChiang Cheng, CEO of Hero Bread. Hero Bread produces delicious real bread with benefits – 0g net carbs, 0g sugar, 45 calories per slice. Previously, he founded World Golf Tour, which was acquired by TopGolf where he became President of TopGolf Media after the acquisition.We discuss:* Founding World Golf Tour* Acquisition by TopGolf* Merging Digital and Physical Experiences at TopGolf* Discovering Hero Bread* Joining Hero Bread as Interim CMO* Pivoting from Food Service to DTC* Why he became CEO at Hero Bread* Challenges and Success in Retail * Driving Velocity and Consumer Demand * Leadership Transition to CEO* Lightning Round: Trends, Brands, and Innovations This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.theconsumervc.com/subscribe

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