The Business of Healthcare Podcast

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The Business of Healthcare Podcast is presented by the Center for Healthcare Leadership and Management at the Naveen Jindal School of Management. It brings together business leaders and other forward thinkers to discuss how best to meet the challenges of a rapidly changing, increasingly complex healthcare industry. The center is based at The University of Texas at Dallas.

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May 19, 2026Episode 13728 min

The Business of Healthcare Podcast, Episode 137: A Push Toward Smarter, Simpler Care with AI

In this episode, Anita Allemand, PharmaD, chief growth officer at Elevance Health, joins host Dan Karnuta to discuss how artificial intelligence is being used to simplify healthcare experiences for patients, providers and insurers alike. She outlines four key areas where AI is reshaping the industry: care navigation, provider support, personalized patient experiences and proactive identification of care gaps. The conversation also explores value-based care, claims processing, interoperability challenges, workforce training and the importance of balancing technology with human-centered healthcare delivery as the industry moves toward more proactive and personalized care models. Karnuta is an associate professor in the Naveen Jindal School of Management's Organizations, Strategy and International Management Area as well as director of its Professional Program in Healthcare Management.

May 6, 2026Episode 13636 min

The Business of Healthcare Podcast, Episode 136: Pharmaceutical Pricing 101

In this episode, guest Antonio Ciaccia, president of consulting firm 3 Axis Advisors and founder/CEO of non-profit 46brooklyn Research, joins host Dan Karnuta for a discussion about U.S. drug pricing. The model is opaque because it runs on inflated list prices and hidden discounts created by government policy and industry incentives. Instead of competing on price, drug companies raise prices and offer rebates through intermediaries like pharmacy benefit managers (PBMs), who control which drugs are covered. This system weakens normal market forces and concentrates power in the middle of the supply chain. Karnuta is an associate professor in the Naveen Jindal School of Management's Organizations, Strategy and International Management Area as well as director of its Professional Program in Healthcare Management.

March 30, 2026Episode 13531 min

The Business of Healthcare Podcast, Episode 135: Hybrid Healthcare

In this episode, Will Busch, III, president of FMG Leading, joins host Dan Karnuta for a discussion about hybrid healthcare. They talk about how the pandemic accelerated adoption of hybrid models like telehealth, remote monitoring and AI-enabled workflows. Other topics of dicussion include how: *]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-(--header-height)" dir="auto" data-turn-id="eb1053d6-486c-4a9d-bd4f-4c609fcdb21c" data-testid="conversation-turn-39" data-scroll-anchor="false" data-turn="user"> *]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" data-turn-id= "request-69c6d4aa-86c0-8333-8b66-55b54099c6bd-14" data-testid= "conversation-turn-40" data-scroll-anchor="true" data-turn= "assistant"> Hybrid healthcare blends human care with technology to improve access, cost and outcomes AI and automation help scale clinicians by reducing administrative burden Success depends on strategy, workflow alignment and cultural buy-in, not just technology How hybrid models are key to addressing workforce strain, aging populations and rising healthcare costs Karnuta is an associate professor in the Naveen Jindal School of Management's Organizations, Strategy and International Management Area as well as director of its Professional Program in Healthcare Management.

February 26, 2026Episode 13422 min

The Business of Healthcare Podcast, Episode 134: Employer-Focused Wellness

In this episode, host Dan Karnuta welcomes Kevin Kumler, president and general manager of Levanto, to discuss how the Baylor Scott & White Health-backed platform is redefining employer-sponsored wellness. Kumler explains that Levanto brings multiple health solutions — such as weight management, musculoskeletal care, mental health support and nurse triage — into one integrated app, reducing fragmentation and personalizing care across conditions and life stages. The goal is to extend trusted health system expertise beyond hospital walls and help employees stay healthy instead of waiting until issues become acute. The conversation highlights Levanto's value to employers: lowering unnecessary costs, improving productivity and enhancing benefits offerings through a simple per-member-per-month model that works alongside existing insurance plans. Kumler also outlines how AI supports both operational efficiency and patient-facing tools, while emphasizing a blended "AI plus human" approach to care. Overall, the episode positions integrated, employer-focused wellness as a practical step toward a more sustainable healthcare system. Karnuta is an associate professor in the Naveen Jindal School of Management's Organizations, Strategy and International Management Area as well as director of its Professional Program in Healthcare Management.

January 29, 2026Episode 13341 min

The Business of Healthcare Podcast, Episode 133 Independent Physician Practices—Today's Emerging Models

In this episode, Dr. John R. Mehall returns to the show for a discussion with host Dan Karnuta about the evolving economics of physician practice and how different organizational models — hospital employment, independent groups and private equity partnerships — shape autonomy, productivity and long-term sustainability. Drawing on his experience as a former cardiac surgeon and now healthcare executive and entrepreneur, Mehall explains why hospitals increasingly struggle to sustain physician employment, how subsidy-driven compensation models can create internal competition, and what it really takes for physicians to successfully transition back to independence through ancillaries, capital investment and operational support. Kaiser is director of the MS/MBA in Healthcare Leadership and Management for Professionals at UT Dallas' Naveen Jindal School of Management. Previous episodes with Dr. John Mehall: Episode 118: Non-Clinical Careers for Physicians Episode 43: Filling Medical Staffing Gaps

November 21, 2025Episode 13235 min

The Business of Healthcare, Episode 132: A Year in Healthcare: Hard Truths, New Hope

This episode flips the script as producer Jimmie Markham interviews host Dan Karnuta about the year's biggest healthcare themes. They revisit discussions form previous episodes on AI governance, operational adoption, workforce resistance, healthcare education pipelines, insurance pitfalls, nursing workflow redesign and physician well-being. Karnuta emphasizes that rapid technological change demands strong communication, thoughtful change management and a workforce prepared to partner with AI. They also explore deeper systemic issues, including healthcare's "klugeocracy" — a system built on decades of quick fixes. Despite the complexity and inefficiency this creates, Karnuta ends on a hopeful note: the industry is talking openly about its challenges, experimenting with new solutions and developing leaders committed to improving the system. Karnuta is an associate professor in the Naveen Jindal School of Management's Organizations, Strategy and International Management Area as well as director of its Professional Program in Healthcare Management.

October 28, 2025Episode 13130 min

The Business of Healthcare Podcast, Episode 131: Healing the Healers — Restoring Purpose and Leadership in Medicine

In this episode of The Business of Healthcare Podcast, host Dan Karnuta welcomes Don Taylor, director of the Alliance for Physician Leadership at The University of Texas at Dallas' Naveen Jindal School of Management, for a discussion about Taylor's new book, Healing. They discuss how the U.S. healthcare system fails to support physicians' well-being, both mentally and spiritually. Taylor describes how doctors struggle with the stress, isolation and burnout of leadership expectations although they do not get trained in that aspect of their careers. They also discuss how the U.S. healthcare system prioritizes profit over true health, creating a structure where sickness — not wellness — drives revenue, leaving doctors feeling voiceless and disconnected from their calling. Karnuta is an associate professor in the Naveen Jindal School of Management's Organizations, Strategy and International Management Area as well as director of its Professional Program in Healthcare Management.

August 27, 2025Episode 13029 min

The Business of Healthcare Podcast, Episode 130: Reimagining Nursing Through Innovation and Technology

In this episode, host Dan Karnuta speaks with Dr. Terry McDonnell, chief nursing officer at Duke University Health System. They focus on how technology is reshaping the nursing profession. They discuss workforce retention, supporting nurses who are new to the profession and initiatives such as innovation units, virtual care centers and ambient voice recognition. They also also explore the future of home-based care, wearable technology, ethical AI use and programs like healthcare high schools to help strengthen tomorrow's workforce. Karnuta is an associate professor in the Naveen Jindal School of Management's Organizations, Strategy and International Management Area as well as director of its Professional Program in Healthcare Management.

July 25, 2025Episode 12936 min

The Business of Healthcare Podcast, Episode 129: Centering Humans in Healthcare AI Implementation

This episode explores how artificial intelligence is transforming healthcare, emphasizing that success depends more on people and processes than on the technology itself. Host Dan Karnuta and guest Dr. Matt Brubaker, chairman and CEO of healthcare consulting firm FMG Leading, discusses implementation challenges, fear of change and the importance of aligning AI adoption with organizational strategy, leadership and mission. Karnuta is an associate professor in the Naveen Jindal School of Management's Organizations, Strategy and International Management Area as well as director of its Professional Program in Healthcare Management.

May 20, 2025Episode 12828 min

The Business of Healthcare Podcast, Episode 128: Alternative Health Plans: Do You Know the Risk?

In this episode of The Business of Healthcare Podcast, Becky Greenfield, a healthcare attorney and a partner at boutique law firm Wolfe Pincavage, joins host Dan Karnuta for a discussion about the complexities and risks associated with alternative health plans that are not mandated by the Affordable Care Act. Plans like healthcare sharing ministries, limited benefit plans and short-term insurance can appear similar to conventional healthcare insurance but they lack essential consumer protections like coverage for pre-existing conditions, essential health benefits, and balance-billing safeguards. Although these plans are attractive due to their lower costs, they can can result in significant out-of-pocket expenses and limited provider networks. The conversation also highlights the challenges the hospitals face when treating patients with these plans, including confusion over payment responsibilities and financial risk due to underpayment or denials. Karnuta is an associate professor in the Naveen Jindal School of Management's Organizations, Strategy and International Management Area as well as director of its Professional Program in Healthcare Management.