Patience & Money is a market and economic commentary podcast from The 282 Group of Wells Fargo Advisors. The 282 Group is a full service wealth management group providing financial services to individuals, families, and business investors. For a comprehensive menu of professional services or to learn more about the 282 Group’s professionally managed portfolios, please contact us at https://fa.wellsfargoadvisors.com/the-282-group/ or 704.571-7173 or jane.m.nicolas@wfa.com. Patience & Money is a nod to the first book written on the stock exchange in 1688, Confusion of Confusions. Author Josef de la Vega writes, “Whoever wishes to win in this game must have both patience and money”. We believe that timeless principle is as true today as it was then. We hope you think, learn, and enjoy. Opinions expressed in this report are those of the author(s) and are not necessarily those of Wells Fargo Advisors or its affiliates. The material has been prepared or is distributed solely for information purposes and is not a solicitation or an offer to buy any security or instrument or to participate in any trading strategy.All investing involves some degree of risk, whether it is associated with market volatility, purchasing power or a specific security, including the possible loss of principal.Wells Fargo Advisors is a trade name used by Wells Fargo Clearing Services, LLC, Member SIPC, a registered broker-dealer and non-bank affiliate of Wells Fargo & Company.Stocks offer long-term growth potential, but may fluctuate more and provide less current income than other investments.Index returns are not fund returns. An index is unmanaged and not available for direct investment.The S&P 500 [Standard & Poor’s 500] is a market-cap weighted index composed of the common stocks of 500 leading companies in leading industries of the U.S. economy.Investments in fixed-income securities are subject to market, interest rate, credit and other risks. Bond prices fluctuate inversely to changes in interest rates. Therefore, a general rise in interest rates can cause a bond’s price to fall. Credit risk is the risk that an issuer will default on payments of interest and/or principal. This risk is heightened in lower rated bonds. If sold prior to maturity, fixed income securities are subject to market risk. All fixed income investments may be worth less than their original cost upon redemption or maturity.
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October 15, 2025Episode 637 min
Fear of Heights
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Patience and Money, Ryan Culpepper and Sam Pennell check-in as markets achieve new all-time highs, the question now is, where do we go from here? There’s plenty of things to be excited about and even more that is concerning. Ryan & Sam discuss key data points like US stock market technical analysis, inflation trends, interest rate expectations, gold, and bond market behavior.
September 5, 2025Episode 533 min
Interest Rates Getting Interesting
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Patience and Money, Ryan Culpepper and Sam Pennell check-in as all eyes turn to the interest rate markets ahead of the Federal Reserve’s September meeting. There’s plenty of things to be excited about and even more that is concerning. Ryan & Sam discuss key data points like US stock market technical analysis, inflation trends, interest rate expectations and bond market behavior.
July 11, 2025Episode 428 min
Melting up: A Midyear Market Review
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Patience and Money, Ryan Culpepper and Sam Pennell check-in for a midyear review. Could the second half of 2025 melt up to new highs and a reinvigorated Bull Market? What could derail this ideal base case? Ryan & Sam discuss key data points like US stock market technical analysis, inflation trends, interest rate expectations, bond market behavior, and the surprising weakness of the dollar.
May 20, 2025Episode 341 min
From Panic to Perspective: Inside 2025’s Market Swings & Investors’ Responses
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Patience and Money, Ryan Culpepper and Sam Pennell unpack the wild ride that has been the 2025 market so far. From sharp pullbacks and rising fear to rapid rebounds and renewed optimism, they explore what’s really driving the volatility—and how resilient investors have navigated the noise. Ryan & Sam discuss key data points like inflation trends, interest rate expectations, bond market behavior, and the surprising strength of global equities. They also highlight the behavioral side of investing: why staying calm—and staying invested—matters more than ever. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or feeling whiplash from the headlines, this episode offers grounded insights and forward-looking perspective.
March 24, 2025Episode 235 min
Certainly Uncertain
Send us Fan MailAfter a dream-like run over the last 2+ years in the equity markets, the cold splash of reality hit the investment world as risk was re-introduced this quarter. The main culprits: economic policy and tech-company valuations. Does this spell longer term trouble for the markets? Are there fundamental concerns? Is this just a normal part of investing in the markets? Tune in to hear Ryan and Sam delve into what’s moving markets and if this has changed their outlook for a third year in a row of positive gains for investors.Recorded March 19, 2025 in Charlotte, NC.Ryan Culpepper, Managing Director - Investment Officer and PIM Portfolio Manager of the 282 Group of Wells Fargo Advisors.Sam Pennell, Senior Vice President-Investment Officer and PIM Portfolio Manager of the 282 Group of Wells Fargo Advisors. To schedule time with Ryan or Sam, contact (704) 553-6389 or madison.martinez@wfa.com. Opinions expressed in this report are those of the author(s) and are not necessarily those of Wells Fargo Advisors or its affiliates. The material has been prepared or is distributed solely for information purposes and is not a solicitation or an offer to buy any security or instrument or to participate in any trading strategy.Index returns are not fund returns. An index is unmanaged and not available for direct investment.The S&P 500 [Standard & Poor’s 500] is a market-cap weighted index composed of the common stocks of 500 leading companies in leading industries of the U.S. economy.All investing involves some degree of risk, whether it is associated with market volatility, purchasing power or a specific security, including the possible loss of principal.Investments in fixed-income securities are subject to market, interest rate, credit and other risks. Bond prices fluctuate inversely to changes in interest rates. Therefore, a general rise in interest rates can cause a bond’s price to fall. Credit risk is the risk that an issuer will default on payments of interest and/or principal. This risk is heightened in lower rated bonds. If sold prior to maturity, fixed income securities are subject to market risk. All fixed income investments may be worth less than their original cost upon redemption or maturity.Exposure to the commodities market may subject an investment to greater share price volatility than an investment in traditional equity or debt securities. Investments in commodities may be affected by changes in overall market movements. Commodity index volatility, changes in interest rates, or factors affecting a particular industry or commodity. Products that invest in commodities may employ more complex strategies, which makes those investors to additional risk.
January 16, 2025Episode 123 min
2025 Outlook: Smooth Sailing or Fasten Seatbelts?
Send us Fan MailAfter a 2024 that defied most market analysts’ expectations, where does the market go from here? Will 2025 continue the smooth sailing from last year, or should we expect turbulence and Mother Market to turn on the fasten seatbelt sign?Recorded January 9, 2025 in Charlotte, NC.Ryan Culpepper, Senior Vice President - Investment Officer and PIM portfolio manager of the 282 Group of Wells Fargo Advisors.Sam Pennell, Senior Vice President-Investment Officer and PIM Portfolio Manager of the 282 Group of Wells Fargo Advisors. To schedule time with Ryan or Sam, contact (704) 553-6389 or madison.martinez@wfa.com. Opinions expressed in this report are those of the author(s) and are not necessarily those of Wells Fargo Advisors or its affiliates. The material has been prepared or is distributed solely for information purposes and is not a solicitation or an offer to buy any security or instrument or to participate in any trading strategy.Index returns are not fund returns. An index is unmanaged and not available for direct investment.The S&P 500 [Standard & Poor’s 500] is a market-cap weighted index composed of the common stocks of 500 leading companies in leading industries of the U.S. economy.All investing involves some degree of risk, whether it is associated with market volatility, purchasing power or a specific security, including the possible loss of principal.Investments in fixed-income securities are subject to market, interest rate, credit and other risks. Bond prices fluctuate inversely to changes in interest rates. Therefore, a general rise in interest rates can cause a bond’s price to fall. Credit risk is the risk that an issuer will default on payments of interest and/or principal. This risk is heightened in lower rated bonds. If sold prior to maturity, fixed income securities are subject to market risk. All fixed income investments may be worth less than their original cost upon redemption or maturity.Exposure to the commodities market may subject an investment to greater share price volatility than an investment in traditional equity or debt securities. Investments in commodities may be affected by changes in overall market movements. Commodity index volatility, changes in interest rates, or factors affecting a particular industry or commodity. Products that invest in commodities may employ more complex strategies, which makes those investors to additional risk.Tags: Stocksbondsboombusteconomyeducationmarketmarketsbitcoingoldinterest ratesFedbullbearbull market
November 27, 2024Episode 828 min
Not Even Halfway Done
Send us Fan MailRecorded November 22, 2024 in Charlotte, NC: just before Ryan and Sam’s favorite holiday, Thanksgiving! In a thankful mood for this episode, Ryan and Sam share their bullish outlook based on market history and current data. The guys remain bullish on the US markets and economy suggesting, “we’re not even halfway done with this Bull Run”.Ryan Culpepper, Senior Vice President - Investment Officer and PIM portfolio manager of the 282 Group of Wells Fargo Advisors.Sam Pennell, Senior Vice President-Investment Officer and PIM Portfolio Manager of the 282 Group of Wells Fargo Advisors. Contact us at 704.571.7173 or jane.m.nicolas@wfa.com or https://fa.wellsfargoadvisors.com/the-282-group/Opinions expressed in this report are those of the author(s) and are not necessarily those of Wells Fargo Advisors or its affiliates. The material has been prepared or is distributed solely for information purposes and is not a solicitation or an offer to buy any security or instrument or to participate in any trading strategy.Index returns are not fund returns. An index is unmanaged and not available for direct investment.The S&P 500 [Standard & Poor’s 500] is a market-cap weighted index composed of the common stocks of 500 leading companies in leading industries of the U.S. economy.All investing involves some degree of risk, whether it is associated with market volatility, purchasing power or a specific security, including the possible loss of principal.Investments in fixed-income securities are subject to market, interest rate, credit and other risks. Bond prices fluctuate inversely to changes in interest rates. Therefore, a general rise in interest rates can cause a bond’s price to fall. Credit risk is the risk that an issuer will default on payments of interest and/or principal. This risk is heightened in lower rated bonds. If sold prior to maturity, fixed income securities are subject to market risk. All fixed income investments may be worth less than their original cost upon redemption or maturity.Exposure to the commodities market may subject an investment to greater share price volatility than an investment in traditional equity or debt securities. Investments in commodities may be affected by changes in overall market movements. Commodity index volatility, changes in interest rates, or factors affecting a particular industry or commodity. Products that invest in commodities may employ more complex strategies, which makes those investors to additional risk.
October 11, 2024Episode 739 min
Give Me Something Good
Send us Fan MailRecorded October 3, 2024 in Charlotte, NC: in this episode, Ryan and Sam share their thoughts on our nation’s top stories, the markets, and political world. Many are asking for some good amongst the current backdrop. The 282 Group remains bullish on the stock market heading into the election and year-end; reminding listeners they can be the good in their world.Ryan Culpepper, Senior Vice President - Investment Officer and PIM portfolio manager of the 282 Group of Wells Fargo Advisors.Sam Pennell, Senior Vice President-Investment Officer and PIM Portfolio Manager of the 282 Group of Wells Fargo Advisors. Contact us at 704.571.7173 or jane.m.nicolas@wfa.com or https://fa.wellsfargoadvisors.com/the-282-group/Opinions expressed in this report are those of the author(s) and are not necessarily those of Wells Fargo Advisors or its affiliates. The material has been prepared or is distributed solely for information purposes and is not a solicitation or an offer to buy any security or instrument or to participate in any trading strategy.Index returns are not fund returns. An index is unmanaged and not available for direct investment.The S&P 500 [Standard & Poor’s 500] is a market-cap weighted index composed of the common stocks of 500 leading companies in leading industries of the U.S. economy.All investing involves some degree of risk, whether it is associated with market volatility, purchasing power or a specific security, including the possible loss of principal.Investments in fixed-income securities are subject to market, interest rate, credit and other risks. Bond prices fluctuate inversely to changes in interest rates. Therefore, a general rise in interest rates can cause a bond’s price to fall. Credit risk is the risk that an issuer will default on payments of interest and/or principal. This risk is heightened in lower rated bonds. If sold prior to maturity, fixed income securities are subject to market risk. All fixed income investments may be worth less than their original cost upon redemption or maturity.Exposure to the commodities market may subject an investment to greater share price volatility than an investment in traditional equity or debt securities. Investments in commodities may be affected by changes in overall market movements. Commodity index volatility, changes in interest rates, or factors affecting a particular industry or commodity. Products that invest in commodities may employ more complex strategies, which makes those investors to additional risk.
August 21, 2024Episode 631 min
No Dull Moments
Send us Fan MailRecorded August 14, 2024: Ryan and Sam discuss market moves during a time of unbelievable headlines from the markets, economy and political world. Ryan Culpepper, Senior Vice President - Investment Officer and PIM portfolio manager of the 282 Group of Wells Fargo Advisors.Sam Pennell, Senior Vice President-Investment Officer and PIM Portfolio Manager of the 282 Group of Wells Fargo Advisors. Contact us at 704.571.7173 jane.m.nicolas@wfa.com or https://fa.wellsfargoadvisors.com/the-282-group/Opinions expressed in this report are those of the author(s) and are not necessarily those of Wells Fargo Advisors or its affiliates. The material has been prepared or is distributed solely for information purposes and is not a solicitation or an offer to buy any security or instrument or to participate in any trading strategy.Index returns are not fund returns. An index is unmanaged and not available for direct investment.The S&P 500 [Standard & Poor’s 500] is a market-cap weighted index composed of the common stocks of 500 leading companies in leading industries of the U.S. economy.All investing involves some degree of risk, whether it is associated with market volatility, purchasing power or a specific security, including the possible loss of principal.Investments in fixed-income securities are subject to market, interest rate, credit and other risks. Bond prices fluctuate inversely to changes in interest rates. Therefore, a general rise in interest rates can cause a bond’s price to fall. Credit risk is the risk that an issuer will default on payments of interest and/or principal. This risk is heightened in lower rated bonds. If sold prior to maturity, fixed income securities are subject to market risk. All fixed income investments may be worth less than their original cost upon redemption or maturity.
July 9, 2024Episode 527 min
Accepting the Bull Market: Midyear Review
Send us Fan MailRecorded July 1st 2024: Ryan and Sam share how market participants are now accepting this is a Bull Market, although skepticism remains. Ryan Culpepper, Senior Vice President - Investment Officer and PIM portfolio manager of the 282 Group of Wells Fargo Advisors.Sam Pennell, Senior Vice President-Investment Officer and PIM Portfolio Manager of the 282 Group of Wells Fargo Advisors. Contact us at 704.571.7173 jane.m.nicolas@wfa.com or https://fa.wellsfargoadvisors.com/the-282-group/Opinions expressed in this report are those of the author(s) and are not necessarily those of Wells Fargo Advisors or its affiliates. The material has been prepared or is distributed solely for information purposes and is not a solicitation or an offer to buy any security or instrument or to participate in any trading strategy.Index returns are not fund returns. An index is unmanaged and not available for direct investment.The S&P 500 [Standard & Poor’s 500] is a market-cap weighted index composed of the common stocks of 500 leading companies in leading industries of the U.S. economy.All investing involves some degree of risk, whether it is associated with market volatility, purchasing power or a specific security, including the possible loss of principal.Investments in fixed-income securities are subject to market, interest rate, credit and other risks. Bond prices fluctuate inversely to changes in interest rates. Therefore, a general rise in interest rates can cause a bond’s price to fall. Credit risk is the risk that an issuer will default on payments of interest and/or principal. This risk is heightened in lower rated bonds. If sold prior to maturity, fixed income securities are subject to market risk. All fixed income investments may be worth less than their original cost upon redemption or maturity.
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