Take-Away with Sam Oches

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Jun 2026

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Hosted by Nation’s Restaurant News’ editor in chief, Take-Away with Sam Oches features interviews with CEOs and founders of restaurant companies big and small, sharing their stories and ideas for the future but also real, tangible insights for how to innovate in our foodservice future. Each episode of Take-Away with Sam Oches provides key take-aways from Oches’ interviews, with on-the-go observations about how each leader’s strategy fits within the broader foodservice context and what actionable insights you should be applying to your own business.

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June 16, 202654 min

Everytable’s founder on the keys to keeping prices low

In this episode of Take-Away with Sam Oches, Sam talks with Sam Polk, founder and CEO of Everytable, a health-forward concept that launched a decade ago with the mission of making nutritious meals more affordable, particularly for neighborhoods that lacked access to healthier foods. Everytable made a huge splash when it launched, partly because of its unique pricing model: The brand boasts cheaper prices in lower-income neighborhoods while charging more in higher-income neighborhoods. Key to that strategy is its commissary kitchen model, through which it sources local ingredients to produce healthy grab-and-go dishes that are shipped directly to its 40-plus locations. Sam joined the podcast to talk about how Everytable’s mission has evolved over the last 10 years and about how it’s perfectly positioned to bring healthier foods to lower-income neighborhoods far beyond its California base. In this conversation, you’ll find out why:The healthy food movement has a business model problem A streamlined kitchen opens new growth opportunities The value equation is a sliding scale that varies customer by customer and city by cityMission-driven businesses must have clear alignment with the bottom lineCommunity-driven franchisees can be leveraged for more dependable, consistent businessRegister for CREATE here: https://informaconnect.com/create/ Have feedback or ideas for Take-Away? Email Sam at sam.oches@informa.com.

June 10, 20261 hr 2 min

Mellow Mushroom’s EVP on transforming the pizza experience

In this episode of Take-Away with Sam Oches, Sam talks with Ahsan Jiva, executive vice president of strategy and transformation at Mellow Mushroom, a brand that’s grown to about 170 locations in 17 states in its 50-plus years in business. Mellow Mushroom has long been a full-service concept with bar service and countercultural vibes, but as part of a three-year transformation that Ahsan is spearheading, it’s rolling out a “fast fine” model that offers some counter service while protecting the core menu and branding that Mellow Mushroom has become known for. Ahsan joined the podcast to talk about the ingredients to that transformation and how the flexible model they’ve designed is empowering franchisees and GMs to take the business to the next level.In this conversation, you’ll find out why:Barbell pricing strategies can extend to beverageConsider the fringes of your menu for innovationThe pizza category may have a use case problemPizza also has an experience problemChains should consider the jam band approach where no two experiences are alikeNo matter how varied your experience is, the brand must be consistentThe best use for new tech tools is to supercharge your GMRegister for CREATE here: https://informaconnect.com/create/Have feedback or ideas for Take-Away? Email Sam at sam.oches@informa.com.

June 2, 202658 min

Firebirds CEO Steve Kislow on the tools beyond price that create value

In this episode of Take-Away with Sam Oches, Sam talks with Steve Kislow, CEO of Firebirds Wood Fired Grill, a polished casual chain based in North Carolina that now has nearly 70 locations in 21 states. Steve started as a GM with Firebirds more than 20 years ago before working his way up to the chief executive position, and he has overseen an evolution of the brand that has always protected the quality of its menu and hospitality first and foremost. Firebirds sits on the upscale side of the casual-dining spectrum, but it’s still committed to providing value to all manners of guests, from kids and families to couples on dates to business lunches. Steve joined the podcast to talk about how Firebirds is uniquely connecting with all of these guests and providing a value-driven experience.In this conversation, you’ll find out why:You should embrace evolution, not revolutionYour branding opportunity begins with your storefrontKids are just as ready to engage with your brand as their parentsYour beverage program demands as much creativity as your foodTechnology can help you ratchet up your hospitality as a differentiatorRegister for CREATE here: https://informaconnect.com/create/Have feedback or ideas for Take-Away? Email Sam at sam.oches@informa.com.Mentioned in this episode:Create 2026https://informaconnect.com/create/?utm_source=skot&utm_medium=radio&utm_campaign=create26

May 26, 20261 hr 11 min

Mendocino Farms CEO and CMO on building the future of fast casual

In this episode of Take-Away with Sam Oches, Sam talks with CEO Kevin Miles and CMO Alicia Mowder of Mendocino Farms, a Los Angeles-based sandwich and salad fast casual with about 100 locations in six states. Mendocino Farms — affectionately known to fans as Mendo — has been around now for over 20 years, and in the course of its history has helped to redefine what is possible in a fast-casual setting. Mendo serves high-quality sandwiches and salads in a counter-service setting, but with an emphasis on dine-in occasions driven by high-touch, friendly service. That experience sits somewhere between traditional fast casual and full service, and while it leads to a higher ticket average, it’s clearly resonating with guests; according to the most recent Technomic Top 500, Mendocino Farms grew sales by about 20% last year to around $300 million, with AUVs coming in at $3.76 million. Sam first sat down with Alicia live at the Restaurant Leadership Conference, and later virtually with Kevin, to talk about Mendo’s unique guest experience, how they’re building guest loyalty in markets new and old, and why they’re both optimistic for the future of fast casual.In this conversation, you’ll find out why:You should take the quality of your experience seriously — but not much elseThere is an opportunity in the market for full service quality with fast casual service and priceBrands don’t have to change, but they do have to evolveLifestyle brands are alive and well and capturing guest loyalty with key differentiatorsEven when your sales are positive, question how you can get betterVisually appealing food invites customers to do the marketing for youHave feedback or ideas for Take-Away? Email Sam at sam.oches@informa.com.Mentioned in this episode:Create 2026https://informaconnect.com/create/?utm_source=skot&utm_medium=radio&utm_campaign=create26

May 19, 202657 min

Whataburger CEO Debbie Stroud on the benefits of leading like a family

In this episode of Take-Away with Sam Oches, Sam talks with Debbie Stroud, CEO of Whataburger, a 76-year-old company that now has more than 1,000 locations across 17 states. Debbie spent more than 30 years as an executive at McDonald’s and Starbucks before joining Whataburger in 2023 as COO. She was named CEO in 2025, and she’s earned a reputation as a warm and personable leader who is often found in restaurants listening to team members about how the company can improve. That’s a great fit for Whataburger, which is still partially owned by its founding family and which calls its 50,000-plus team members “family members.” Sam recently sat down with Debbie in a brand-new location outside Raleigh, NC, for an episode of the Signature Series, powered by The Coca-Cola Company, and talked about how she’s setting the tone for a family-like company culture — and about how Whataburger is tapping into its rabid fan base to expand its footprint.In this conversation, you’ll find out why:An aligned team empowered to do the work can accomplish great thingsLeaders create the conditions for successData tells a story — and it should guide your decision makingBrands should embrace the authentic relationship their guests have with themCuriosity plus diversified experience makes for a strong future leaderHave feedback or ideas for Take-Away? Email Sam at sam.oches@informa.com.

May 13, 20261 hr 0 min

84 Hospitality founder Rachel Cope on 5 elements that go into a great restaurant experience

In this episode of Take-Away with Sam Oches, Sam talks with Rachel Cope, founder and CEO of 84 Hospitality, which has four concepts in its portfolio, including the eight-unit Empire Slice House. Rachel — who NRN recently named to the Power List of restaurant founders, and who was also named a 2026 James Beard Award Semifinalist for Outstanding Restaurateur — opened the first Empire in 2013, and every restaurant that she’s opened since has been imbued with the five things she’s passionate about: people, art, music, booze, and of course food. In fact, 84 Hospitality is so committed to the atmosphere of their restaurants that they don’t even call them restaurants; they call them “hangouts,” because their main goal is for customers to enjoy themselves on site and plug into their community. Rachel joined the podcast to talk about the details that go into a great restaurant atmosphere — from a curated music playlist to free prosecco pours — and about how she’s positioning Empire Slice House and its counter service offshoot, Empire Slice Shop, to be a major growth opportunity.In this conversation, you’ll find out why:The best leaders figure out how to adapt to their situationA carefully tailored restaurant atmosphere can be the difference between a good time and a great timeCreativity must be balanced with practicalityQuirky real estate is a great characteristic — until you need to scaleThe restaurant industry must resist becoming too transactionalHave feedback or ideas for Take-Away? Email Sam at sam.oches@informa.com.

May 5, 202634 min

Future restaurant trends to watch, according to this global expert

In this episode of Take-Away with Sam Oches, Sam talks with Rafael LaRue, the chief creative officer for global foodservice consultant Livit and its sister company, Fast Fine Restaurant Group. Rafael and his partners have a fascinating perspective because they study the industry at the global level, and not only do they consult on everything from guest experience and architecture to interior design, culinary, and operations, but they also put their advice into practice through their portfolio of restaurants. Sam and Rafael talked in person at the Restaurant Leadership Conference last month in Scottsdale about growing trends from around the world that are soon to influence the U.S. restaurant industry. In this conversation, you’ll find out why:There is no one-size-fits-all approach to developing conceptsAI lets GMs and employees focus solely on guestsAI can create one-of-a-kind restaurant experiences Gen Alpha is the algorithm generation — and could totally disrupt restaurants Authenticity will continue to win the day Have feedback or ideas for Take-Away? Email Sam at sam.oches@informa.com.

April 28, 202621 min

Honeygrow’s founder on the brand reset that sparked consistent growth

In this episode of Take-Away with Sam Oches, Sam talks with Justin Rosenberg, founder of Honeygrow, a Philadelphia based stir-fry brand. The first Honeygrow opened back in the fast-casual boom of 2012, and much like his fast-casual peers at that time, Justin quickly scaled the business into major urban markets like New York, Boston, and Chicago. But the brand found itself mired in some bad leases, and Justin realized he needed to close some locations and double down on brand excellence in order for Honeygrow to meet its full potential. Today, Honeygrow has 76 locations, and Justin and his team have created a model that ensures continuous growth in cities both big and small. Justin and Sam sat down in person at last week’s Restaurant Leadership Conference in Scottsdale to recap a session they did on the mainstage, in which they covered Honeygrow’s early brand reset and how it’s developing loyal fans in cities that aren’t always on restaurants’ radars.In this conversation, you’ll find out why:Potentially strong AUVs should not fool you into bad leasesYou shouldn’t reinvent the wheel if the wheel keeps spinningThere are no bad teams; only bad leadersFast casual has a copy-cat problemHave feedback or ideas for Take-Away? Email Sam at sam.oches@informa.com.

April 21, 202650 min

Layne’s Chicken Fingers CEO on the incredible runway for chicken chains

In this episode of Take-Away with Sam Oches, Sam talks with Garrett Reed, CEO of Layne’s Chicken Fingers, a Texas-based fast casual that had 40 units at the beginning of this year but plans to double that count by the end of the year — with projections showing it could have more than 500 locations open by 2029. Garrett and his partners acquired Layne’s from founder Mike Layne in 2017 and took three years to develop the model, building out a support team at headquarters and the right infrastructure that would ensure franchisee profitability. With all that work done, Layne’s is now stepping on the accelerator and finding success even as countless other chicken chains race across the country. Garrett joined the podcast to talk about how he thinks the chicken category will shake out in the coming years — and why he thinks there’s room for 4,000 Layne’s units in the U.S. alone.In this conversation, you’ll find out why:When introducing franchising, take your time and stress test the modelBy ensuring franchisee profitability, you can ensure future growthA dose of humility can rev up your business’s growthThere’s plenty of runway left for chicken — but quality and culture will determine the winners and losersHave feedback or ideas for Take-Away? Email Sam at sam.oches@informa.com.

April 14, 202637 min

FB Society CEO Jack Gibbons on the recipe for developing a successful new restaurant

In this episode of Take-Away with Sam Oches, Sam talks with Jack Gibbons, CEO of FB Society, a Dallas-based hospitality group known for founding chains like Twin Peaks and Velvet Taco — both of which it has since sold — as well as current portfolio concepts Sixty Vines, Whiskey Cake, and Mexican Sugar, among others. As a sort of restaurant incubator, FB Society has spent the past couple of decades developing something of a recipe for successful new concepts, and as a cofounder of those concepts, Jack has discovered how founders serve as a secret ingredient to restaurant success. NRN named Jack to the just released Power List, which this year recognizes 34 restaurant founders who are improving the industry through their creative power, and Jack joined the podcast to talk about why founders can help differentiate a growing concept and why it’s important to him to pass lessons down to future restaurant leaders.In this conversation, you’ll find out why:New brand development isn’t formulaic, but it can be standardizedYour customers will tell you what your secret sauce is“Founder mode” offers an extra lever for some brands to navigate growth challengesRestaurant leaders risk sewing confusion when they don’t filter their ideasYou can’t change the world without taking some risksHave feedback or ideas for Take-Away? Email Sam at sam.oches@informa.com.