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A podcast unpacking Brain Capital and Brain Health for the corporate sector. For HR professionals and business leaders committed to changing the way organisations approach, measure and report on brain capital.

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June 14, 2026Episode 3039 min

Episode 30: The rise of the Brain Economy and why Brain Health is everyone's business, with Pawel Świeboda

Could investing in brain health be one of the most important investments corporates and society make this century? In this episode, Linda Jarnhamn sits down with Pawel Świeboda Founder, NeuroCentury; Co-Founder, Brain Capital Alliance; Senior Fellow at European Policy Centre and Centre for Future Generations and Co-Director, Brussels Economic Security Forum.They discuss how neuroscience is entering a new era as brain health becomes increasingly central to both individual wellbeing and economic prosperity. This episode explores the growing brain economy, the link between brain health and performance and the urgent need to address rising dementia rates alongside increasing mental health challenges among younger generations.Key discussion points:Brain health as a critical driver of human performance, productivity, and economic growth.That cross-sector collaboration and emerging neuro-technologies will be essential to tackling future brain health challenges.The factors shaping the Brain Health movement in the next five yearsPowered by flow²thrive

May 19, 2026Episode 2933 min

Episode 29: Automation, isolation and workplace safety, why human connection still matters at work

How can we design workplaces that stay both technologically advanced and human-centered?In this episode, Linda Jarnhamn sits down with Lena Abrahamsson, Professor in Human Work Science, Luleå University of Technology.They discuss how workplace and production systems should be designed around people, not just technology. Lena explains that when automation improves physical safety, it can create new risks such as isolation and boredom, which in turn may cause apathy and accidents. The conversation emphasises that human interaction, social connection, and maintaining engagement are essential parts of a safe and effective work environment. Key Topics DiscussedHuman-centered design is essential in socio-technical production systems. Automation may reduce physical risks while increasing cognitive and social risks. Isolation, boredom, and cognitive overload are significant workplace safety concerns.Powered by flow²thrive

May 1, 2026Episode 2829 min

Episode 28: From awareness to action on corporate brain health

What’s holding leaders back from embracing brain health at work?In this episode, Linda Jarnhamn sits down with Patricia Earhart Lewis for a role-reversal conversation exploring a major shift, from traditional people and sustainability frameworks to a sharper focus on brain capital and brain health.While awareness is growing, Linda highlights a critical tension: leaders are both fascinated by and fearful of change. Many recognise the need for new ways of working, yet struggle to move away from deeply embedded habits.From challenging outdated norms to translating neuroscience into practical interventions, this episode explores the real barriers and opportunities facing organisations today.Key Topics DiscussedThe awareness – action gap: Why leaders understand brain health matters, but hesitate to implement meaningful change Fundamental workplace redesign: Moving from extrinsic motivation and outdated work patterns to intrinsic, brain-aligned performance models From science to practice: Challenges and opportunities in translating neuroscience research into real-world organisational interventionsPowered by flow²thrive

December 27, 2025Episode 2740 min

Episode 27: The human case for data with Anders Rodenberg

''So.. with all technologies there are pros and cons. I think we’ve gone way too far into the camp of saying ''some of this data is too dangerous'' versus ''let's utilise some of the data to actually improve the lives of everyone''In this episode host Linda Jarnhamn talks to Anders Rodenberg, Founder & CEO of Denominator, a global leader in social and human capital data. Anders makes the persuasive case that data isn’t just about numbers, it’s about people and the measurable impact they have on business performance, investment decisions, and sustainable value creation. Together they explore questions around:How human capital data can help investors and HR leaders alikeWhy we are more accepting of AI making mistakes than our human colleaguesWhy everyone should track the work around IISB and TISFDPowered by flow²thrive

December 6, 2025Episode 237 min

Episode 26: Trust - the lubricant of human performance with Paul Zak

''Until our robot overlords take over, it’s really humans who are creating value within organizations. So those humans will be more effective at creating value for your clients and even better team members when we understand the underlying need for human connection, for trust, and for psychological safety.''Host Linda Jarnhamn talks to Paul Zak, Professor, Speaker, Co-Founder, Immersion Neuroscience about the role of trust in human performance.Together they explore questions around e.g.Trust as the lubricant of human performanceIn group and out group biasThe importance of having a 3.00 am friendPowered by flow²thrive

September 10, 2025Episode 2534 min

Episode 25: Unlocking human potential through neurotech with Nikolas Williams

''The issue is, you're not taking breaks, you're just switching tasks. You're trying to multitask, or you're just trying to distract yourself. But, you know, I think that that is a symptom of our modern productivity-focused world, that it has set us up for failure"Host Linda Jarnhamn talks to Nikolas Williams, head of Research at Emotiv about measuring brain health and performance through neurotechnology. Together they explore questions around e.g.:The meaning of cognitive load, stress and performanceThe power and potential of using EEG in corporate settingsEthical and legal aspects of collecting personal brain dataPowered by flow²thrive

June 27, 2025Episode 2443 min

Episode 24: How to get older, healthier - inside the science of healthy aging with Tina Woods

''If we're successful with all the longevity research, you will close the gap between years of good health and death. You'll live a great life with very minimal chronic conditions. So that's kind of like the holy grail, I think, for a lot of researchers now, reducing multimorbidity, achieving really good and long healthy life expectancy, and to die a quick death from a very good life, which sounds pretty good to me"Host Linda Jarnhamn talks to Tina Woods, Social Entrepreneur and System Architect in Healthy Longevity, about the role of the exposome and how to get older, healthier.Together they explore questions around e.g.:Chronological vs biological age and technologies to measure the latterIntrinsic vs extrinsic exposome and their impact on health and longevityThe Wild West of the supplements and ''healthy foods'' marketPowered by flow²thrive

May 30, 2025Episode 2330 min

Episode 23: From perk to priority: the business case for workplace wellbeing with Ömer Döne

''A few years ago, wellbeing in the workplace was seen as a nice to have. Now it's become a must have. We are recognizing that the healthy workforce is not just beneficial for employees. It also reinforces their reputation, long-term resilience, overall success. In other words, it's also good for business''Host Linda Jarnhamn talks to Ömer Döne, Global Head of Workplace at Sanofi about the journey of corporate wellbeing and the role of workplace design in embedding a culture of wellbeingTogether they explore questions around e.g.:The built environment as a trigger for cultural transformation Why people stay away from using recharge roomsCollaborative, co-construction focused approaches to wellbeing designPowered by flow²thrive

May 1, 2025Episode 2234 min

Episode 22: The power and perils of purpose with Geoff McDonald

''Leaders in organisations, I think, are fearful to measure the wellbeing of their people. And by the way, there are now plenty of measures out there — and they are fearful because they kind of intuitively know that the results are not gonna be good. I really do believe that organizations today have a hugely negative impact on the overall health and wellbeing of their people”Host Linda Jarnhamn holds a conversation filled with energy with Geoff McDonald, global advocate and leading voice for mental health in the workplace. From the transformative power of purpose to navigating mental wellbeing at work and thriving in the emerging brain economy, Geoff shares deeply personal experiences and professional insights that both inspire and inform. Together they explore questions around:The positive power and perils of purposeHow fear and lack of capability is holding progress backThe power of strong collaborative alliancesPowered by flow²thrive

April 14, 2025Episode 2143 min

Episode 21: Brainomics: the economic imperative behind Brain Health with Andrew Nevin & Stephen White

''When you tell people that we can make people’s lives better, there’s some segments of society and decision makers where that doesn’t move the needle for them. What moves the needle for them is the economic consequences. So for us, Brainomics is a little overlay. I call it the 1% overlay on the flourishing or thriving story about better brain health and better brain performance. We can show there’s no conflict. People can flourish and your organization can do better economically''Host Linda Jarnhamn talks to Andrew Nevin and Stephen White, from the Center for Brain Health and dig deep into Brainomics - the economic imperative behind Brain Health.Together they explore questions around:Why measuring brain health is key for both individuals and organisationsHow changing a few small habits can result in a 25% productivity increase How to optimise neural capacity for brain health and performancePowered by flow²thrive