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100

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Mar 2026

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EN

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Examining simplification, standardization & centralization to create value.

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March 25, 2026Episode 332 min

From Captive to Competitive: Redefining Global Business Services

In this episode of SSO Next, host Heather King speaks with Turan Sahin, CEO of Allianz Services, about his journey building one of the world's leading Global Business Services (GBS) organizations from the ground up. Reflecting on his seven-year tenure, Sahin shares how he challenged early skepticism around captive shared services by focusing on market-driven performance rather than mandates. By prioritizing cost, quality, customer experience, and trust, he positioned Allianz Services as a competitive, world-class provider that business units actively choose to partner with. A central theme of the conversation is the shift from traditional, transactional shared services to high-value, end-to-end capabilities embedded within the core business. Sahin explains how Allianz Services deliberately moved up the value chain, focusing on complex, skill-intensive work and leveraging global talent to drive real business impact. By aligning closely with customer outcomes and measuring success through end-customer satisfaction, the organization has positioned itself not just as a service provider, but as a strategic partner and transformation engine.

December 15, 2025Episode 221 min

The AI-Driven C-Suite

In this episode of SSO Next, hosted by Sally Fletcher, Global Managing Editor at SSON, we continue the conversation on one of today's most pressing leadership topics: AI in the enterprise. This episode turns the spotlight to the C-suite and explores what it truly means to lead in an AI-driven world. Our guest, Ansgar Thiessen, Head of Global Central Operations at Swiss Re Corporate Solutions, discusses how artificial intelligence is transforming the skills, mindsets, and expectations of future leaders. Exploring how the rapid pace of innovation is altering decision-making and strategic planning, how organizations can handle change fatigue during ongoing digital transformation, and what effective AI leadership looks like in practice. Drawing on his hands-on experience implementing AI within Swiss Re GBS, Ansgar shares real-world insights into scaling digital, data, and GBS capabilities across a global operation. A must-listen for executives and shared services leaders navigating the realities of AI, transformation, and modern leadership in the C-suite. If you enjoy this episode and want to hear more from Ansgar, you can register free of charge to our webinar series, AI for Global Business Services, where Ansgar is a keynote speaker.

November 10, 2025Episode 144 min

The Great AI Debate: Point vs. Platform, Buy vs. Build

AI is something that is truly transforming global business services, in particular Agentic AI, and there is an incredible amount of discussion around the right and wrong way to use it and implement it within GBS.  Two of the topics we hear the most questions about at SSON are regarding buy vs. build and platform vs. point solutions. There is a lot of information online regarding this topic, but it can often be biased, dependent on whether it's written by a vendor and exactly what their solution is. Therefore, SSON invited AI expert Doug Shannon onto the Podcast to give his seasoned perspective. Doug is a Visionary Leader in Intelligent Automation and AI.  He is a pioneer in driving innovation, operational excellence, and strategic vision across global organizations. Recognized among the Top 50 Intelligent Automation Leaders and twice awarded as a Top 25 Thought Leader in this space. During this episode Doug and I discuss the following resources: SSON Research & Analytics State of the Industry Report, of which you can find a copy here. Shared Services & Outsourcing Week North America  Doug's newsletter Brewing Insights.

June 24, 2025Episode 631 min

Why Friction Data May Be Blocking Your AI Transformation

2025 is an era of transformation for Global Business Services. Whether it's operating model transformation, process transformation, or digital transformation, expectations are high. We expect these initiatives to dramatically reduce operating costs, improve cross-functional alignment, and increase customer loyalty.   However, more often than not, these transformations fail - and one of the primary reasons is the experience. While technology may be in place, the actual work - how it flows across teams and systems - remains fragmented.   With that in mind, SSON invited experience and transformation expert Christophe Martel, CEO of FOUNT Global, to talk about what's missing - and what needs to change.   FOUNT believes "The future of work is flow." Their platform surfaces friction in how work gets done, using input from employees to help organizations break down silos, remove hidden blockers, and improve productivity across complex environments.   🎙️ In this episode, Christophe explores how leading enterprises are rethinking transformation - not just by collecting more data, but by focusing on how people actually experience the work. Note: During the episode we talk about an upcoming webinar Fount Global are hosting with PepsiCo and TI people on the 9th July 2025. If you are keen to join, sign up here.

May 14, 2025Episode 324 min

Exploring GBS Careers: Part Three

This episode is the 3rd in our careers focused series, recorded on-site at Shared Services & Outsourcing Week America, SSON's largest event. The event bought together over 1100 participants, 100 exhibitors and 200 thought leaders. I took the opportunity to interview some of the shared services leaders onsite about their career-paths. In this episode, we are featuring Lorena Espinosa, O2C Value Creation Consultant, Mars, and CK Taneja, SVP Transformation, Innovation and Resiliency, Northern Trust. During the episode Lorena speaks about her experience with SSON's GBS Certification, if you're interested in learning more about this or registering for the next cohort, the information can be found here. As a sidenote, both these interviews were recorded onsite at our flagship summit Shared Services & Outsourcing Week North America, so there may be some slight background noise! If you have any feedback, someone you want to nominate to be profiled or a topic you would love me to cover then please add me on LinkedIn or email me at sally.fletcher@ssonetwork.com  And of course if you like what you hear then please check out the agenda for our next Shared Services & Outsourcing Week North America in September and our Finance Transformation Virtual Summit, 10-11 June.

April 29, 2025Episode 219 min

Exploring GBS Careers: Part Two

This episode is the 2nd in our careers focused series, recorded on-site at Shared Services & Outsourcing Week America, SSON's largest event. The event bought together over 1100 participants, 100 exhibitors and 200 thought leaders. I took the opportunity to interview some of the shared services leaders onsite about their career-paths. In this episode, we are featuring Adam Holmes, SVP Head of Strategic Operations and Global Communications, Publicis Re:Sources and Carolina Okrongli, Chief of Staff, Nokia Business Services. As a sidenote, both these interviews were recorded onsite at our flagship summit Shared Services & Outsourcing Week North America, so there may be some slight background noise! If you have any feedback, someone you want to nominate to be profiled or a topic you would love me to cover then please add me on LinkedIn or email me at sally.fletcher@ssonetwork.com  And of course if you like what you hear then please check out the agenda for our next Shared Services & Outsourcing Week North America in September and our Finance Transformation Virtual Summit, 10-11 June. Adam Holmes will be speaking at the Finance Transformation event on the topic of Making Change Count: Why the Majority of Your Memos Fail and How to Achieve True Stakeholder Engagement! so be sure to tune in!

April 14, 2025Episode 116 min

Exploring GBS Careers: Part One

Last month I was lucky enough to go to Shared Services & Outsourcing Week America, SSON's largest event attracting over 1100 participants, 100 exhibitors and 200 thought leaders. I took the opportunity to interview some of the shared services leaders onsite about their career-paths. Over the next few weeks we will be releasing several episodes profiling shared services professionals with different career paths, to hopefully inspire you and demonstrate what a shared services career is all about. On today's podcast we're featuring Kendra Lovitt, Director of Relationship Management and Governance, McKesson GBS and Kiran Mann, CEO, Brar's. They'll be giving insight into what their job entails and the skills you need to hone to work successfully in their roles. If you have any feedback, someone you want to nominate to be profiled or a topic you would love me to cover then please add me on LinkedIn or email me at sally.fletcher@ssonetwork.com.  And of course if you like what you hear and you want to be part of our next Shared Services Week, then the links are below: Shared Services & Outsourcing Week North America. Shared Services & Outsourcing Week Europe.

February 4, 2025Episode 216 min

Taking Your Organization from Cost to Profit Center in 2025

The shared services model has typically been one of cost-savings, with organizations saving millions of dollars by offshoring work to low-cost locations. However, as the model has become more mature, creating dramatic cost-savings becomes more difficult – as the changes that produce results (such as standardization and centralization) have already been done. At the same time, many organizations are looking to their shared service centre to provide additional value, this can come through data-backed insights, taking on new-services or driving revenue – which is what we are going to talk about in this episode of the podcast! Joining SSON on the podcast is Priyanka Grover, Go to market lead for Recievables Automation at FIS. Priyanka will share her insight into how you can drive revenue, combat fraud and enable cost-savings via AI and process improvement.  For more great content from FIS see below: Podcast: Future of O2C Trends & Insights Whitepaper: The Definitive Guide to Choosing Customer to Cash Software Market Report: Future of O2C Insights & Trends

January 9, 2025Episode 345 min

The Top GBS Trends For 2025!

As we head into 2025, the business world is transforming at lightning speed—we're seeing new evolutions in the world of AI almost weekly, there is a huge and much needed focus on sustainability, a push for automation, and naturally, there is an incredibly dynamic political and economic environment, all which have an impact on GBS. They say forewarned is forearmed so in today's episode, we'll break down the Top Global Business Services Trends you need to watch to stay ahead of the curve. In order to help me explore the innovations, challenges, and opportunities shaping 2025, we invited Chazey Partners to be part of the episode. Joining me from Chazey are Phil Searle, CEO and Co-Founder, Lee Coulter, Chief Transformation Officer, Esteban Carrill, Executive Director, LATAM and Tim O'Donnell, SVP and CRO.  Throughout the episode we reference Chazey's report Transformation in the Age of AI, which you can download here.

October 2, 2024Episode 227 min

Workforce Analytics & the Future of Outsourcing

Did you know that, according to SSON's State of the Industry Report 2024, over half of the SSO/GBS leverage outsourcing? However, the nuanced landscape of outsourcing can make talent management all the more difficult.  So, in this week's episode, we delve into the critical talent management decisions shared services leaders face. We're joined by Brad Killinger, CEO of Sapience Analytics, who discusses the importance of leveraging analytics to thrive amidst today's macro talent challenges, and the transformative power of workforce analytics.  If you enjoy this episode, please join us for our webinar with Bradley on how to Level Up Your SSO/GBS with the Power of Workforce Analytics.

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