The Kirsh Connection

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Welcome to The Kirsh Connection. In each episode, Andrew Kirsh interviews real estate industry leaders. We'll hear their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.

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June 16, 202636 min

Building a National Branded Condo Platform with Meg Epstein, Founder of CA South Development

Building a National Branded Condo Platform with Meg Epstein, Founder of CA South Development. We discuss:The Airbnb side hustle that helped Meg pay her rent and ultimately sparked the vision for CA SouthThe unique condo model that allows owners to live in their unit or monetize it through short-term rentalsWhy condo development is attracting more capital than multifamily in today's market Learn more about Meg Epstein: Connect with Meg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/megepstein/CA South Development: https://www.casouthdevelopment.com/team/megan-epstein/ ******************************************* In each episode of The Kirsh Connection, Andrew Kirshinterviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry. Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection: • Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation. • Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh • Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays

June 9, 20261 hr 0 min

Celebrating 100 Episodes with David Schwartzman, Founder of Harridge Development

Celebrating 100 Episodes with David Schwartzman, Founder of Harridge Development. We discuss:What the U.S. should do about Iran—and its impact on the real estate marketWhy the booming AI economy doesn't reflect whatmost Americans are experiencing right nowCalifornia says it wants more housing. David explains why new housing still isn't getting builtWhy City Council elections matter more than the Mayor—and how DSA policies are reshaping Los AngelesWhy David never chased Sunbelt yield despite theboom in markets like Phoenix and VegasWhy Miami and New York may be overvalued—and whyDavid is betting on Los Angeles CountyDavid opens up about filing personal bankruptcy in 2009—and the lessons that fueled his comebackLearn more about David Schwartzman: Connect with David on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schwartzman-8034784/Harridge Development Group: https://harridgedevelopment.com/about/ ******************************************* In each episode of The Kirsh Connection, Andrew Kirshinterviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry. Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection: • Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnUAndrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation. • Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh • Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp• Follow Sklar KirshLLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en

June 2, 202642 min

Forum’s Playbook for Winning in Any Market Cycle. My Conversation with Lee Beck, President of Forum Investment Group

Forum’s Playbook for Winning in Any Market Cycle. My Conversation with Lee Beck, President of Forum Investment Group. We discuss:Forum’s “secret sauce” for sourcing off-market deals through the “Forum Funnel”Why diversification across the capital stack is critical in volatile marketsThe massive opportunities emerging from today’s value-add “dumpster fire”Why political uncertainty in coastal markets concerns Lee more than Sunbelt oversupplyLearn more about Lee Beck: Connect with Lee on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leebeck2020/Forum Investment Group: https://forumig.com/team-member/lee-beck/******************************************* In each episode of The Kirsh Connection, Andrew Kirshinterviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry. Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection: • Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnUAndrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation. • Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh • Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays

May 20, 202646 min

Inside LaTerra’s $455 Million Chicago Portfolio Multifamily Acquisition -

Inside LaTerra’s $455 Million Chicago Portfolio MultifamilyAcquisition - A behind-the-scenes look at LaTerra Development’s massive $455 million Chicago multifamily acquisition with Charlie and Chris Tourtellotte of LaTerra Development. We discuss:Why Chicago is suddenly one of the hottestapartment markets in AmericaHow the deal delivers double-digit cash-on-cashprojectionsWhy even elite sponsors sometimes need 100meetings before landing the right capital partnerHow we are in a generational buying opportunityfor apartments Learn more about Chris Tourtellotte: Connect with Chris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-tourtellotte-3257224 Learn more about Charlie Tourtellotte:Connect with Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charles-tourtellotte-a1890119 https://laterradev.com/ ******************************************* In each episode of The Kirsh Connection, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry. Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection: • Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnUAndrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation. • Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh • Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays

May 13, 202651 min

Why the Westside Always Wins: Ron Smith & David Berg on LA Residential Real Estate, Relationships & the Future of the Pacific Palisades

Why the Westside Always Wins: Ron Smith & David Berg on LA Residential Real Estate, Relationships & the Future of the Pacific Palisades. We discuss:Why the Westside is almost always a seller’smarketHow Smith & Berg built a white-glove team tomake the home selling/buying process seamless from start to finishBuilding a “client for life” real estatebrokerage businessThe current state and future of the Palisades marketLearn more about David Berg: Connect with David on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davebergla/ Learn more about Ron Smith:Connect with Ron on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/f-ron-smith-07935416/ https://smithandberg.com/ ******************************************* In each episode of The Kirsh Connection, Andrew Kirshinterviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry. Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection: • Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnUAndrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutiquelaw firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment,bankruptcy, and litigation. • Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh • Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays

May 5, 202656 min

The Turnaround Playbook: How Sandeep Mathrani Saved General Growth Properties and WeWork

Sandeep Mathrani has built a career stepping into chaos—andfixing it. From leading General Growth Properties out of bankruptcy during the Global Financial Crisis to taking over WeWork after the board removed Adam Neumann, he’s become one of the most respected turnaround CEOs in real estate. In this episode, Sandeep delivers a true masterclass on running companies and fixing broken ones. If you’re in real estate, private equity, or leadership in any industry, this episode isn’t just a conversation—it’s a playbook. We cover: His “glass completely full” mentality—reframingproblems as opportunities instead of problemsHow he rebuilt GGP one asset at a time, despitemassive complexityThe 50–30–20 rule: which assets to sell, scale,and optimizeHis disdain for the word “busy”—and what itreally signalsThe 3 keys to loan workouts: reputation, plan,and exitWalking into WeWork and realizing the mathdidn’t work—and cutting $2.5B in expenses to surviveLearn more about Sandeep: Connect with Sandeep on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandeep-mathrani ******************************************* In each episode of The Kirsh Connection, Andrew Kirshinterviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry. Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection: • Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnUAndrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation. • Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh • Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays

April 28, 202648 min

From Frenzy to Reality, The Industrial Market Rest Explained w/Howard Schwimmer

From Frenzy to Reality, The Industrial Market Rest Explainedwith Howard Schwimmer, Founder and Former Co-CEO of Rexford Industrial and Founder of S5 Industrial Realty Inc. We discuss:Why small bay industrial is becoming the mostcompetitive sector in real estateWhy the best deals never hit the market—and howproactive outreach still beats AI and algorithmsWhy finding quality real estate is too nuancedfor AI to replaceWhat the “post-COVID hangover” in industrialreally means—and whether this is a correction or an opportunity Learn more about Howard: Connect with Howard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/howard-schwimmer-b0100414/ ******************************************* In each episode of The Kirsh Connection, Andrew Kirshinterviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry. Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection: • Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnUAndrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation. • Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh • Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays

April 21, 202644 min

Riches in the Niches: Finding Outsized Returns Where Others Aren’t Looking w/Alex Valner

Riches in the Niches: How Alex Valner, President andManaging Partner of Center Capital Partners, Finds Outsized Returns Where Others Aren’t Looking. We Discuss: Airfields = Beachfront Property — Why aviation realestate may be one of the most scarce and overlooked assets in the market Hunting Where the Giants Aren’t — Winning in the lowermiddle market while large-cap private equity sits on the sidelines Core-Plus… with Opportunistic Returns? — The playbookfor outperforming without taking headline risk Asset First, Team Second — The sequencing behindbuilding a scalable investment platform Learn more about Alex: Center Capital: https://www.centercp.com/the-teamConnect with Alex on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-valner-bb65804b/ ******************************************* In each episode of The Kirsh Connection, Andrew Kirshinterviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry. Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection: • Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation. • Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh • Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays

April 15, 202646 min

Founders, Family, and a Fast-Growing Brand: The Hugh & Grace Playbook, My Conversation with Founders Ben and Sara Jensen

Founders, Family, and a Fast-Growing Brand: The Hugh & Grace Playbook, My Conversation with Founders Ben and Sara Jensen. We discuss:The problem with “wellness” today – and why Hugh & Grace had to be built from scratch They walked away from it all – Beverly Hills to RV parks, betting everything on a vision We’re not that different – the overlooked truth that could change how we see everyone What does it actually mean to win? – a raw rethink of success beyond money and status Learn more about Ben & Sara: Hugh & Grace: https://hughandgrace.com/Connect with Sara on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarajensen1Connect with Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjensen1/ ******************************************* In each episode of The Kirsh Connection, Andrew Kirshinterviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry. Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection: • Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnUAndrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutiquelaw firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment,bankruptcy, and litigation. • Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh • Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays

April 7, 202644 min

Hollywood Meets Real Estate: The Future of Studio & Office with Victor Coleman, CEO of Hudson Pacific Properties

Hollywood Meets Real Estate: The Future of Studio & Officewith Victor Coleman, CEO of Hudson Pacific Properties. We discuss: The Arden Exit: Inside the GE/BlackstoneAcquisition—and the Legendary Dubai CelebrationWhy Bet on Public Markets Again? Victor’s SecondAct After Arden RealtyIs L.A. Office Next—or Still Stuck? BreakingDown the SF Comeback ComparisonDid L.A. Fumble the Entertainment Industry? WhyProduction Is LeavingAgainst the Grain: Why HPP Is Leaning Back IntoOfficeConnect with Victor Coleman: Hudson Pacific Properties: https://investors.hudsonpacificproperties.com/leadership-and-governance/executive-management/default.aspxLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/victor-coleman ********************************************************* Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection: • Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation. • Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh• Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession... • Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays.