Product Rebels

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Aug 2026

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Twice monthly, Vidya Dinamani and Heather Samarin talk to battle-hardened product leaders about building phenomenal products. Their guests are industry experts, people who have pioneered remarkable careers at companies like Netflix, Intuit, Khan Academy and Infusionsoft. Making customer-driven product choices is the right move. But it’s not always the popular one. If advocating for your customers has you feeling like a lone wolf, hosts Vidya and Heather—product rebels in their own right, with 20 combined years of experience—are here to help you learn from the best, so you can pave your way confidently.

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August 6, 2026Episode 7033 min

Product Is Not a Playbook

Why do so many product transformations fail? Because leaders treat product like a science when it's mostly art. Vidya Dinamani and Heather Samarin sit down with Chris Herring, Head of Product at Stride , the edtech company serving K-12 students through virtual public schools. Chris has been building AI products for over a decade — well before it was fashionable — including StoryStudio and MathBee, the math game that helped kids find out math doesn't suck. From refusing to imitate what worked elsewhere, to piloting change with four teams before scaling to forty, to why trust is the currency that buys you permission to rebel, Chris shows what it takes to drive transformation from the inside.

July 9, 2026Episode 6936 min

From 1,000 Interns to One Day Sprints

What does it actually look like to run a one-day sprint cycle? To have agents building product overnight? To compress months of work into days — and still ship things that matter? Kris Kaneta, Chief Product & Innovation Officer at Norstella — one of fast company's most innovative companies of 2025 — is doing it. And in this episode, he shares how with hosts Heather Samarin and Vidya Dinamani. From the premium on clarity in an AI-led pdlc, to the difference between building to learn and building to earn, to why ai is exposing — not hiding — weak product thinking, Kris gives one of the most operationally grounded views of AI-first product leadership we've heard.

June 25, 2026Episode 6837 min

Making AI Work In Product Teams: Roundtable Insights

What happens when product leaders stop talking about AI theory and start sharing what’s actually working? In this special Product Rebels episode, Vidya Dinamani and Heather Samarin unpack insights from four AI roundtables with CPOs, VPs, and product leaders. They explore AI slop, ROI challenges, role anxiety, rapid prototyping, and why judgment, customer insight, and product fundamentals matter more than ever in an AI-driven world. The future of product management may be changing, but its core purpose remains the same.

June 11, 2026Episode 6729 min

Building Product-led Teams with Conviction

What does it take to turn a struggling edtech platform into a mission-driven product powerhouse — in under a year? Vidya Dinamani and Heather Samarin sit down with Jared Harless , Chief Product and Technology Officer at BookNook, as he talks about his early days bootstrapping digital products inside a billion-dollar publishing company, to leading a turnaround that grew revenue 25% year over year and pulled customer retention from 27% to 70%...but the work is far from over. Jared gets real about the kind of conviction it takes to build before you have permission — and how going straight to the market before writing a line of code is still the most powerful move a product leader can make.

May 28, 202636 min

[REPLAY] Tinder, TripAdvisor, and more: Universal Product Lessons

Hey there Product Rebels! If you're a product leader right now, chances are someone in your org has asked you some version of "what's our AI strategy?" in the last month. And chances are, the answer is still murky. We're hearing this from product leaders constantly — there's pressure to ship AI features, but not a lot of clarity on how to move from boardroom excitement to actual product impact. That's why we're resurfacing this conversation with Ravi Mehta. His Inspire, Validate, Structure, and Ship framework is one of the most practical takes we've heard on turning AI ambition into real outcomes. If anything, it's more relevant now than when we first aired it. Enjoy the re-listen.

May 7, 202632 min

[REPLAY] Think Financial, Act Customer

Hey there Product Rebels! We've had a lot of conversations with product leaders lately, and one thing that keeps coming up is how much financial guesswork is involved in incorporating AI into their product orgs. From forecasting costs to proving ROI, it's a challenge that really comes down to something more fundamental — do PMs actually understand the economics of the products they're building? That's exactly what Nat Kunes digs into in this episode. While the conversation isn't specifically about AI, the financial fluency he talks about is the exact muscle product leaders need right now. Enjoy the re-listen. In this episode, Heather Samarin and Vidya Dinamani sit down with Nat Kunes, Chief Product Officer at Ontra. He shares his insights on redefining pricing strategies, replacing assumptions with validated hypotheses, and the impactful strategy he uses to empower his team to balance goals with true user value. Nat digs into financial fluency for PMs, market validation practices, and shifting org culture to view product as an asset, not a liability.

April 23, 2026Episode 9234 min

Product Leadership in the AI Era

What does it mean to be a true product rebel in the age of AI? Heather Samarin and Vidya Dinamani sit down with Raviv Levi, former Chief Product & Technology Officer at Sift, as they unpack how product leaders can stay focused on what really matters—amid constant noise, data overload, and accelerating change. From building alignment across competing teams to rethinking experimentation in an AI-first world, this conversation explores how faster prototyping, sharper problem focus, and stronger conviction are redefining product leadership.

April 9, 2026Episode 9130 min

Why Product Investment Matters

What happens when product leaders prioritize profit over long-term value? In this episode, Michael Nierstedt shares lessons from more than a decade building payroll and HR technology across companies like Gusto and Paylocity. He explains why product investment drives competitive advantage, why product managers must think like sellers inside their organizations, and how real influence comes from delivering value in production. The conversation also explores customer research, the realities of building AI-driven products, and why the next generation of product leaders must learn to delegate, coach, and empower their teams.

March 26, 2026Episode 9025 min

Women, AI, and the Gap We Need to Close

Overthinking isn't a liability — it might just be your greatest edge as a product leader. In celebration of women's history month, Vidya Dinamani and Heather Samarin sit down with Carmen Palmer , CEO of Women in Product and a veteran CPO with 20 years in the industry. Carmen makes the case for why women's "overthinking" is a competitive edge, argues product management isn't going anywhere, and issues a sharp call to action: get in on AI now, before the gap widens. She also unpacks the power of the personal board and what Women in Product has planned for 2026.

March 12, 2026Episode 8915 min

AI as a Force Multiplier for Product Discipline

In this special episode of Product Rebels, Vidya Dinamani and Heather Samarin revisit highlights from their recent webinar, AI as a Force Multiplier for Product Discipline , featuring product and AI leader Elena Luneva. After the live session sparked a wave of thoughtful audience questions, they sit down to tackle some of the most pressing ones—from how AI is reshaping product work to why strong product fundamentals matter more than ever.