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Power House

Power House

Hosted by HousingWire

Episodes

420

Latest episode

Aug 2026

Language

EN

About the show

The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire's Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

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September 3, 202627 min

Deepfakes, deed fraud and the new risks of homeownership

Fraud isn’t just a closing risk. It’s a housing affordability problem. On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Chris Morton, CEO of American Land Title Association, to unpack the growing threat of wire fraud, deed fraud, seller impersonation and AI-powered scams—and the costs those risks ultimately create for homeowners and lenders. Morton also weighs in on Fannie Mae’s title insurance waiver efforts, why refinances aren’t necessarily as low-risk as they appear, and the work title professionals do behind the scenes to protect property rights and transactions. As AI makes fraud increasingly sophisticated, the conversation explores an emerging arms race between technology and human judgment—and why secure transactions are fundamental to making homeownership sustainable and affordable. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Chris Morton's LinkedIn American Land Title Association Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

August 27, 202622 min

Abdel Khawatmi pt. 2. Systems create scale. Relationships create the business.

In Part 2, Abdel Khawatmi moves beyond the technology and explains what he’s ultimately building with it: a business that creates more room for relationships. From more than 700 YouTube videos and 250 podcast episodes to hyper-local market updates, Abdel explains how consistency became a competitive advantage. He also breaks down what he refuses to delegate, his PROF framework for originators and why direct communication with clients and referral partners remains firmly in his hands. The conversation ultimately becomes less about AI and more about scale: building teams, developing other producers and creating a culture where technology handles more of the work without removing the human relationships that actually drive the business. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Abdel Khawatmi’s LinkedIn PRMG Got Mortgages Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

August 25, 202623 min

The modern originator: Inside Abdel Khawatmi’s AI-powered mortgage business

Abdel Khawatmi left personal injury law for mortgage after experiencing firsthand how poor communication can derail the homebuying experience. Eight years later, he’s built a high-producing business around the opposite idea: educate relentlessly, communicate clearly and stay close to the client. In Part 1, Abdel breaks down his “Six Cs of Conversion Tracking” and explains why conversations—not leads, rates or even content—may be the most overlooked part of an originator’s business. He also opens up his AI stack, showing how he records and analyzes client conversations, improves scripts and uses tools like ChatGPT, Claude, Fireflies and NotebookLM to become a better originator and partner. This isn’t AI for novelty’s sake. It’s a look inside how one producer is using technology to systematically get better at the human side of mortgage. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Abdel Khawatmi's LinkedIn PRMG Got Mortgages Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

August 20, 202639 min

Building influence: Paul Gigliotti on leadership, innovation and mortgage’s future

On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Paul Gigliotti, CEO of the California MBA, for a conversation about leadership, adaptability and what it takes to help move the mortgage industry forward. Gigliotti has built a career that spans mortgage, technology and industry advocacy, giving him a perspective that extends well beyond any single corner of the business. He discusses how strong leaders evolve, why innovation is ultimately about people rather than technology, and the responsibility industry leaders have to create opportunities for the people coming behind them. The conversation also explores the importance of staying curious in a business that never stops changing, and why the ability to bring people together around new ideas may be one of the most valuable leadership skills in housing today. Make sure to stick around until the end: Zeb and Paul have a special announcement about an upcoming collaboration. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Paul Gigliotti's LinkedIn California MBA Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

August 14, 202629 min

Clayton Collins: What leaders are still getting wrong about AI

The AI conversation in housing has changed. The question is no longer whether the technology works—it’s what leaders do with it now. Fresh off HousingWire’s AI Summit, Zeb Lowe sits down with HousingWire CEO Clayton Collins to unpack that shift. They discuss lenders using AI to drive down origination costs, builders transforming how they identify land, and executives now managing everything from token utilization to AI governance and implementation. But Collins argues the biggest change has to happen at the leadership level. AI can’t be another technology initiative delegated down the organization. It requires CEOs to rethink workflows, costs and talent—and determine where automation can create more room for the human work that actually drives the business. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Clayton Collins' LinkedIn HousingWire's AI Summit 2026 Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

August 13, 202627 min

Devin Norales: Can we create more homeowners without creating more risk?

How do you expand access to homeownership without taking on more risk? On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Devin Norales, Head of Mortgage and Capital Markets at FICO, to discuss the future of credit scoring and why represents one of the biggest shifts in mortgage lending in decades. Norales explains how trended credit data and rental payment history can provide a more complete picture of borrowers, improving predictive accuracy while responsibly expanding credit access, particularly for first-time homebuyers. The conversation also explores the rental reporting gap, financial literacy and why credit modernization isn't just about better models, but better outcomes for borrowers, lenders and the housing market. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Devin Norales' LinkedIn FICO® Score 10T Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

August 6, 202645 min

The architecture of happiness: Why some homes just feel right

On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with architect and researcher Ann Sussman to explore a provocative idea: many modern homes and neighborhoods are fundamentally out of sync with human biology. Drawing on neuroscience, architecture and urban design, Ann explains why our brains are wired for faces, detail, walkable environments, and how blank facades, oversized roads and car-centric development can quietly contribute to stress, isolation and disconnection. From Disneyland's Main Street to Amsterdam and Nantucket, the conversation explores why some places feel instantly welcoming while others never quite do. If you build, finance, design or sell housing, this episode may permanently change how you see the built environment. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Ann Sussman's LinkedIn theHAPI.org Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

August 4, 202620 min

The efficiency trap: Why faster doesn't always mean better

Does making something more efficient always make it cheaper? On this solo episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe explores the Jevons paradox—the idea that making something cheaper and easier to use often leads to more demand, not less. From fuel-efficient cars and air conditioning to artificial intelligence, history shows that efficiency doesn't necessarily reduce consumption—it expands it. Zeb applies that same framework to housing and mortgage, examining how AI, automation and digital lending may increase loan volume, accelerate transactions and reshape the industry in ways few people are discussing. The question isn't whether efficiency is good. It's what happens after it succeeds. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

July 30, 202638 min

Why clean data beats cool AI tools with Constellation HomeBuilder Systems

On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Paolo Benzan, VP of Data Strategy at Constellation HomeBuilder Systems and Rich Swier, founder of raia AI, to discuss why the future of home building won't be determined by who adopts AI first, but by who builds the strongest data foundation. The conversation explores the hidden work behind successful AI initiatives, from data quality and governance to cost control and security. Benzan and Swier explain why clean, connected data is the real competitive advantage and how builders can use AI to move beyond static reports and make faster, smarter decisions. Their message is clear: AI isn't replacing expertise — it amplifies organizations that have done the hard work to prepare for it. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Paolo Benzan's LinkedIn Rich Swier's LinkedIn Constellation HomeBuilder Systems raia AI Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

July 23, 202633 min

Otis Odell on the human side of housing

What if the future of housing isn't just about building more homes, but building better ones? Crazy idea, right? On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Otis Odell, National Housing Sector Leader at HED, to discuss how thoughtful design shapes well-being, community and the way people experience home. Drawing on a career that spans carpentry, custom homebuilding and national housing design, Odell explains why details like natural light, outdoor space and flexible layouts can have an outsized impact on quality of life. The conversation also explores modular construction, affordability and why solving today's housing challenges will require rethinking not just how many homes we build, but how we design and deliver them. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Otis Odell HED Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

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