
Ethics & Innovation: Can Trust Keep Up With AI?
What do you do when the technology arrives faster than the plan you wrote for it? In this episode of Ethics and Innovation by Oxford+ brought to you by Equinox , host Susannah de Jager speaks with Professor Anne Trefethen, Professor of Scientific Computing at the University of Oxford and Trustee of the Alan Turing Institute, about leading a university through the arrival of generative AI. Oxford published its digital strategy in 2022, weeks before ChatGPT appeared, and Anne explains why it then took courage to stop, rethink planned investments and add the governance she had hoped to avoid. The conversation moves from student adoption and equal access to what national resilience now means: sovereign capability, models we can trust because we know what they were trained on, and enough trained people to use them well. It lands in the middle of a live policy push, with the UK government expanding free AI training to reach 10 million workers by 2030 . Anne also makes the case for optimism, and for changing how we prepare graduates as entry-level work shifts. Useful listening for anyone setting AI strategy inside a large, complex organisation. (00:00) - Welcome to Oxford+ (01:31) - A Career in Scientific Computing (02:41) - Oxford's First CIO and the Road to Digital (04:21) - When ChatGPT Overturned the Strategy (06:39) - Rethinking Investment and Governance (09:12) - Pilots, Rollout and Equal Access (12:57) - Hinton, Altman and the Race to Superintelligence (19:41) - The Turing as National Convener (22:02) - What Resilience Means in the Age of AI (25:45) - Sovereign Models, Distillation and Trust (28:57) - Sovereign Data Sets and British Values (36:18) - Entry-Level Jobs and the Next Generation Anne Trefethen: Anne Trefethen FREng is Professor of Scientific Computing at the University of Oxford, a Fellow of St Cross College and a Trustee of the Alan Turing Institute, the UK's national institute for AI and data science, appointed to its board in November 2024. She joined Oxford in 2005 to establish the Oxford e-Research Centre, which she directed for over six years, became the University's first Chief Information Officer in 2012, and went on to serve as Pro-Vice-Chancellor with responsibility for gardens, libraries and museums, then people, then digital, leading Oxford's digital transformation programme. Before Oxford she spent almost 20 years in industry and academia, including research roles at Thinking Machines Corporation and the Cornell Theory Center, Vice President for research and development at the Numerical Algorithms Group, and leadership of the UK e-Science Core Programme. She was elected a Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering in 2017 and has served as a non-executive director of the UK Statistics Authority. Connect with Anne on LinkedIn Susannah de Jager: Susannah is a seasoned professional with over 15 years of experience in UK asset management. She has worked closely with industry experts, entrepreneurs, and government officials to shape the conversation around domestic scale-up capital. Connect with Susannah on LinkedIn and Subscribe to the Oxford+ Newsletter for Exclusive Content Oxford+ is hosted by Susannah de Jager and supported by Equinox . Produced and Edited by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford.












