Hosted by Joan Garry & Glennda Testone
Episodes
266
Latest episode
Oct 2026
Language
EN-US
Nonprofits Are Messy is the podcast for nonprofit leaders navigating the real challenges of leadership, fundraising, governance, communications, and organizational growth. Hosted by Joan Garry and Glennda Testone, each episode features candid conversations, practical advice, and honest stories to help you lead with greater confidence through the messiness of nonprofit work.
Who holds the powerful accountable when a good law isn’t enough? Glennda Testone makes the case for the role of nonprofits with one small watchdog and 170,000 pages of records a city fought for years to keep hidden.
Most of us read conflict on a team as a sign something has gone wrong. Priya Parker thinks we have it backwards, and she has spent twenty years watching what happens to the groups that get this right and the ones that don't.
Some weeks the news takes something out of you and doesn't put it back. Author Sam Horn has spent a year with people who kept going anyway, and she draws a line between three kinds of people that will make you check which one you've been.
Glennda Testone, CEO of Nonprofit Leadership Lab, did not grow up on Dolly Parton. A year and a half of full immersion later, she came away with three lessons about Dolly Parton philanthropy that every nonprofit leader should hear.
What if greater nonprofit impact isn’t about doing more? Glennda Testone talks with Better Good author Scott M. Curran about focusing on what works and using what you already have more intentionally.
For many nonprofit leaders, unionization can feel deeply personal. Explore the questions, challenges, and realities of nonprofit unionization, and how leaders, staff, and boards can navigate the process while preserving trust, culture, and their org’s values.
What if the goal isn’t simply to avoid burnout, but to learn how to burn on? Jim Collins joins Joan Garry to explore why some leaders stay energized for decades, what it means to stay “in frame,” and how to build a life around what matters most.
Most nonprofits know how to get people to pay attention. Fewer know how to turn that attention into lasting change. In this conversation, Rashad Robinson shares what makes the difference.
Some sponsorship conversations turn into long-term partnerships. Others quietly disappear after the first meeting. What's the difference?
Managing a team that spans five generations isn't a Gen Z problem. It's a leadership challenge. In this episode, I sit down with Jason Burlingame to talk about the workplace tensions that seem to resurface with every generation and what it takes to lead through them.
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