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Move Smartly: The Podcast

Move Smartly: The Podcast

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Episodes

100

Latest episode

Aug 2026

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EN

About the show

The Move Smartly podcast invites you into data-driven conversations about issues impacting residential real estate in Toronto, across Canada and beyond. Join broker John Pasalis and other experts as we unpack real estate through a variety of timely market updates, lively discussions and insightful interviews. Here to help you make more informed decisions, whether you are a home buyer, seller, owner or renter, and as a resident and voter — because real estate impacts all of us. New episodes on Fridays. Look for our monthly Real Estate Roundtable with Steve Saretsky (The Loonie Hour Podcast) and Ben Rabidoux (Edge Realty Analytics).

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August 14, 202632 min

When Will GTA House Prices Bottom Out? What's Really Happening In The Market?

In this month's live, we discussed the latest GTA market stats and asked the big question: when will house prices finally bottom out? We also looked at the rental market, where increased selection is giving tenants more choice and more reasonable prices. Mortgage expert David Larock shared his latest insights on where interest rates could be headed, as inflation cools, jobs rise, and Canada's latest GDP numbers point to a stronger economic picture. Set-up a meeting with John Pasalis and his agents at MoveSmartly to discuss your own real estate questions privately: https://www.movesmartly.com/meetjohn Sign up for our email list to be alerted to the next online market update to join our YouTube session live chat and ask your own Qs: https://www.movesmartly.com/monthly-public-webinar We hope you enjoyed this month's update and found it valuable. Thanks for tuning in - we'll see you next month!

August 7, 202645 min

Has Canada's Housing Market Hit Bottom? Why Mortgage Rates in Canada and the U.S. Are Heading in Opposite Directions

Has Canada's housing market finally found a bottom—or is there still further to fall? This month on the Real Estate Roundtable, I'm joined by Vancouver realtor Steve Saretsky and Toronto mortgage broker David Larock to discuss whether the correction in Canadian real estate is nearing its end, or whether home prices still have further to adjust before a sustained recovery begins. We also break down the latest economic data and what it means for interest rates. While inflation in Canada continues to trend lower, stronger-than-expected GDP growth suggests the Bank of Canada is unlikely to cut interest rates anytime soon. We discuss why the Bank appears to be on hold and what that means for borrowers and housing demand. Finally, we examine an increasingly important divergence between Canada and the United States. Long-term bond yields in the U.S. have been climbing sharply, pushing borrowing costs higher, while Canadian long-term yields have remained relatively stable. Why are the two countries moving in different directions, and what does this mean for fixed mortgage rates and the outlook for Canada's housing market? All that and more in this month's Real Estate Roundtable covering housing, interest rates, and the economic forces shaping the Canadian real estate market.

July 31, 202644 min

I Walked Away From My Condo Deposit — Can the Builder Still Sue Me?

The Situation is our monthly segment where John and Davin work through real estate situations sent in by real people — the messy, high-stakes decisions that don't have a clean answer in a market like this one. This month: A Toronto investor walked away from her pre-construction condo when she couldn't close, forfeited her deposit, and assumed that was the end of it. Now she's reading about builders suing buyers for the shortfall when the unit resells for less. John and Davin get into what she's actually exposed to, how long a builder has to come after her, and whether there's anything she can do now that doesn't make things worse. Then: a tenant has had her rent raised by the maximum every year for four years, while rents around her have been falling. Her landlord just sent another increase and a new lease to sign. How should she open that conversation, what leverage does she actually have, and can asking backfire? Plus: should you buy your next home before selling your current one, and why a neighbourhood can show 2.6 months of inventory when homes are selling in 24 days. Have a situation of your own? Send it to us and we'll take it on in a future episode.

July 24, 202647 min

Rents Are Falling. Why Is Everyone Building Rentals?

Toronto has almost stopped building condos. Starts hit a multi-decade low last year, and by the end of the decade there will be virtually no new condo completions at all. So nearly all the new housing this city gets over the next five years will be purpose-built rental — apartment buildings owned by the people who build them. My guest is Matt Spoke, a partner at Toronto Standard, which develops, builds, and holds midrise rental across Toronto. He's a CPA and former tech founder who runs the firm's capital side, so he thinks about housing the way an underwriter does. We talk about why this way of building disappeared for 25 years and what's bringing it back, why he builds midrise instead of joining the multiplex boom, and which government policies actually got shovels in the ground. I also push him on CMHC — purpose-built rental depends on government-insured loans no private lender would offer, and Matt generally favours markets over intervention. Then the question I most wanted answered: rents are down about 4% from last year and roughly 12% off their 2023 peak, and he's putting up buildings that won't have tenants for two or three years. So what rent is he actually assuming — and does he think rents go up from here, or down?

July 17, 202642 min

Beyond the Headlines: What's Really Happening in the GTA Market?

In today's live, we're diving into the latest GTA market statistics and separating fact from fiction when it comes to the headlines. Joining Gus and Davin from Realosophy, we discuss what's really happening on the ground and what the latest trends mean for buyers and sellers. We also hear from mortgage expert David Larock, who shares his latest insights on mortgage rates. Despite changing headlines and ongoing political uncertainty, rates have remained relatively steady—but what does that mean for the months ahead? Set-up a meeting with John Pasalis and his agents at Realosophy to discuss your own real estate questions privately: https://www.movesmartly.com/meetjohn Sign up for our email list to be alerted to the next online market update to join our YouTube session live chat and ask your own Qs: https://www.movesmartly.com/monthly-public-webinar We hope you enjoyed this month's update and found it valuable. Thanks for tuning in - we'll see you next month!

July 10, 202647 min

B.C.'s Condo Developer Bailout, No Rate Hikes & Canada's Sluggish Housing Market

This month on the Real Estate Roundtable, I'm joined by Vancouver realtor Steve Saretsky and Toronto mortgage broker David Larock to break down the latest developments in Canada's housing market. We discuss why housing markets in Toronto and Vancouver remain sluggish despite a modest improvement in market balance. New listings have been falling for several months, helping reduce excess inventory, but sales activity remains subdued and buyers continue to have the upper hand in many segments. We also examine the outlook for interest rates. For the past four months, financial markets had been pricing in the possibility of rate hikes later this year. However, easing geopolitical tensions following the Iran conflict and renewed trade uncertainty after the extension of Canada–United States–Mexico Agreement failed to materialize have shifted expectations. With the economic outlook becoming more uncertain, additional rate hikes appear to be off the table—for now. Finally, we discuss the British Columbia government's proposal to purchase unsold condominium inventory from struggling developers and convert those units into rent-to-own housing. Is this a practical way to expand homeownership opportunities, or another government intervention that risks distorting the housing market? All that and more in this month's Real Estate Roundtable.

June 12, 202650 min

Can the Missing Middle Actually Solve Toronto's Housing Crisis?

Over a century ago, Toronto banned apartment buildings from most residential streets — while European cities like Paris, Berlin, and Amsterdam were building them as the default fabric of urban life. That decision shaped the city we live in today: a landscape of single-family houses and condo towers with almost nothing in between. In 2019, Globe and Mail architecture critic Alex Bozikovic co-edited House Divided, a book that former Chief Planner Gregg Lintern has credited with kick-starting Toronto's missing middle conversation. Seven years later, multiplexes and sixplexes are now permitted across the city, but the gap between zoning reform and actual construction remains wide — and the affordability crisis has only deepened. In this episode, John and Alex explore the history behind Toronto's housing divide, what's changed since the book was published, and some of the harder questions the missing middle movement still needs to answer — including whether the math can work at four to six units at a time, the challenge of retrofitting a city that was physically built for something else, and a striking paradox: the European cities we look to for inspiration are built almost entirely of the housing types being advocated for here, and they're deep in their own affordability crises.

June 5, 202642 min

Canada's Housing Market Faces a Recession Reality | Monthly Real Estate Roundtable

Canada's economy is showing increasing signs of strain, with weakening economic data pointing toward a technical recession—and this month's Real Estate Roundtable unpacks what that could mean for the housing market in the months and years ahead. Joining me are Vancouver realtor Steve Saretsky and Toronto mortgage broker David Larock as we discuss how slowing economic growth, rising unemployment, and softer consumer confidence are impacting housing activity across the country. We also break down the latest outlook for interest rates and whether weaker economic conditions could push the Bank of Canada toward additional rate cuts. What do falling bond yields and softer inflation data mean for mortgage rates, buyers, and homeowners renewing over the next year? Finally, we discuss the longer-term outlook for Canadian real estate—and why the next phase of the market may not look like the rapid rebounds Canadians have become accustomed to. Instead of another quick surge higher, are we entering a period of years-long flat home prices as incomes slowly catch up to housing costs? All that and more in this month's housing market roundtable covering Toronto, Vancouver, and the broader Canadian economy.

May 29, 202652 min

Fixing Housing Means Fixing Finance

Housing debates today are dominated by one idea: if we just build more homes, prices will fall. But what if that story is incomplete? In this episode, I sit down with Mike Fellman to unpack his report Fixing Housing Means Fixing Finance and explore why housing affordability is as much a finance problem as it is a supply problem. We break down the limits of traditional economic thinking, why upzoning alone doesn't guarantee more housing, and how the cost of capital—and the returns investors expect—ultimately determine what gets built. We also connect these ideas to what's happening here in Canada, where programs like CMHC's MLI Select are quietly reshaping the economics of rental housing by lowering borrowing costs and enabling more development. The result is a more nuanced view of the housing crisis—one that challenges the idea that we can simply deregulate our way to affordability. https://groundworkcollaborative.org/work/fixing-housing-means-fixing-finance-why-we-cant-deregulate-our-way-to-affordability/ Follow John x-twitter: https://x.com/JohnPasalis, Instagram @john.pasalis or email: askjohn@movesmartly.com Follow the show on x-twitter: @MoveSmartly, Instagram @move.smartly  About This Show The Move Smartly show is hosted by John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/movesmartly If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!

May 22, 202651 min

"Go Home Developers, You're Drunk": Ben Rabidoux on Canada's Economy and Housing

In this episode, John sits down with Ben Rabidoux of Edge Realty Analytics for a wide-ranging conversation on the state of Canada's economy and housing market. They start with the macro picture — an economy where headline GDP growth masks a struggling private sector, full-time job losses are at their steepest since the pandemic, and an oil-price-driven inflation shock is forcing the Bank of Canada into an impossible position between hiking rates and protecting a weakening economy. The conversation turns to mounting household financial stress, with consumer insolvencies at levels not seen since 2009, credit card charge-offs at decade highs, and a growing social normalization of mortgage default. In the housing market, Ben makes the case that the single-family segment may be nearing a floor — completions and permits are at multi-decade lows, new listings have peaked, and pent-up demand is building — while the condo market faces a deeper structural reckoning as investor economics remain broken and pre-construction defaults surge. They close with what may be the most counterintuitive story in Canadian housing right now: developers are starting rental units at record levels into a market where rents are already falling, vacancy is rising, and population growth has turned negative — setting up a potential future where single-family prices recover while the rental market continues to deteriorate. Follow John x-twitter: https://x.com/JohnPasalis, Instagram @john.pasalis or email: askjohn@movesmartly.com Follow the show on x-twitter: @MoveSmartly, Instagram @move.smartly  About This Show The Move Smartly show is hosted by John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/movesmartly If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!

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