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You're going to have to make a call. But you're not sure it's the right one. That's the moment this podcast was built for. Employment Law Done Right is for HR professionals, people leaders, and employers in New Zealand who are in the thick of it. Not the theory of it. The 90-day trial period expiring this week. The performance process that got complicated the moment an employee disclosed a mental health condition. The disciplinary process where someone resigned midway and is now threatening a personal grievance. Hosted by Sanam Permal, a practising lawyer in New Zealand and Australia. She founded Law Lenz, an employment law training business, in 2023 and it started with this podcast. Every episode covers the real scenarios you face in plain English. Case breakdowns, legal updates, deep dives into the topics that keep you up at night. She's a lawyer. Just not your lawyer. Instead, she's here to give you the knowledge and skills to back yourself when it matters most. New episodes drop fortnightly. Visit lawlenz.co.nz

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June 9, 2026Episode 668 min

It's Official! Here's What We've Been Building at Law Lenz

After a couple of months heads down building, Law Lenz officially has a proper home! And Sanam is way too excited about it. In this episode she breaks down what she's been building, what Law Lenz now offers, and why she started it in the first place. Spoiler: too many good employers are getting employment law wrong not because they don't care, but because nobody ever gave them the tools and showed them how. That's the gap Law Lenz exists to fill. Sanam also shares one practical thing you can do on Monday morning that could save you from a personal grievance. Hint: it starts with unclear expectations and it's more preventable than you'd think. Plus a sneak peek at what's dropping next week. A three-part series on the Employment Relations Amendment Act (ERAA) changes, where things actually sit now, and Sanam answering listener ERAA questions. In this episode we cover: Why Law Lenz exists and who it's for Workshops, courses and ER coaching now available The expectation-setting tip that prevents disputes What's coming in the ERAA series Go have a look and let us know what you think. The website is lawlenz.co.nz Sanam would like to extend a massive thank you to the amazing community here on the Employment Law Done Right podcast. This started with an idea and it has grown because of you all. Thank you! Check out the Law Lenz website HERE Want to Book a Clarity Call? Send your inquiry through to Sanam HERE Don't miss our updates and legal insights! Sign up to the Law Lenz Newsletter! CLICK HERE! Follow Sanam on LinkedIn for key employment law updates. Got questions? Email them to ask@lawlenz.co.nz Disclaimer: The content presented in this episode is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as legal advice. The host does not assume any liability for actions taken based on the content of this podcast. While the host is a lawyer, they are not your lawyer and the information provided is based on general legal information. This podcast does not create a solicitor-client relationship.While we strive to keep the information accurate and up-to-date as at the date of each episode, laws and regulations may change, and the content of this podcast may not reflect the most current legal standards or interpretations. Listeners are encouraged to consult with a qualified New Zealand legal professional for advice tailored to their specific situation.

March 28, 2026Episode 6512 min

Quick Legal Update: 1st April KiwiSaver & Minimum Wage Changes

The two biggest payroll changes of the year land on the same day! In this episode, join Sanam as she breaks down exactly what changes are coming up on 1 April 2026, what you need to do before your first April pay run, and the questions that are front of mind for employers. Sanam covers: The change to KiwiSaver default rates The pay date rule that trips people up when a pay period crosses 1 April What to do when an employee says they can't afford the increase The employer contribution trap when a temporary rate reduction expires Employer KiwiSaver contributions for 16 and 17-year-olds The minimum wage increase Tune in and have those burning KiwiSaver questions answered by Sanam. Whether you have two employees or two hundred, these changes apply to you. Don't miss our updates and legal insights! Sign up to the Law Lenz Newsletter! CLICK HERE! Follow me on LinkedIn for key employment law updates. Got questions? Send them our way, and I will feature them in the next episode. Email your queries to asklawlenz@gmail.com. Check out the Law Lenz website HERE. Other Minimum Wage Episodes: Minimum Wage is Increasing! Here's Your Quick 2025 Checklist Preparing for the Minimum Wage Increase on 1 April 2024 Resources: Minimum wage set for 2026 - MBIE KiwiSaver changes - IRD Disclaimer: The content presented in this episode is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as legal advice. The host does not assume any liability for actions taken based on the content of this podcast. While the host is a lawyer, they are not your lawyer and the information provided is based on general legal information. This podcast does not create a solicitor-client relationship.While we strive to keep the information accurate and up-to-date as at the date of each episode, laws and regulations may change, and the content of this podcast may not reflect the most current legal standards or interpretations. Listeners are encouraged to consult with a qualified New Zealand legal professional for advice tailored to their specific situation.

March 12, 2026Episode 645 min

Sanam is Back! Send Us Your Questions

Guess who’s back… and newly married! After a couple months away for a big, bold, beautiful and very chaotic wedding, Sanam is back behind the mic! And she is ready to dive into the latest shake up in New Zealand employment law. The Employment Relations Amendment Act 2026 has officially passed. That means new rules, new thresholds, and plenty of questions for employers. What does the contractor gateway test actually mean in practice? Does the $200k unjustified dismissal threshold change the game? And do businesses need to do now? This episode is a quick catch up and an open invitation to the Law Lenz community. Send through your questions and Sanam will tackle them in next week’s deep dive. Send your questions: On LinkedIn HERE By email - asklawlenz@gmail.com Or drop them down below! Don't miss our updates and legal insights! Sign up to the Law Lenz Newsletter! CLICK HERE! Check out the Law Lenz website HERE. Disclaimer: The content presented in this episode is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as legal advice. The host does not assume any liability for actions taken based on the content of this podcast. While the host is a lawyer, they are not your lawyer and the information provided is based on general legal information. This podcast does not create a solicitor-client relationship.While we strive to keep the information accurate and up-to-date as at the date of each episode, laws and regulations may change, and the content of this podcast may not reflect the most current legal standards or interpretations. Listeners are encouraged to consult with a qualified New Zealand legal professional for advice tailored to their specific situation.

January 14, 2026Episode 6310 min

Bite-Sized Breakdown: Independent Contractors in Practice

Engaging a contractor usually starts with good intentions. Sometimes it can end with you realising you have an employee on your hands instead. This bite sized breakdown gives you a practical look at why contractor arrangements often fall apart when you move from paper to practice. In this episode, join me, Sanam, as I unpack what a true contractor actually looks like in the real world. Not in theory. Not in templates. In practice. Using everyday examples like plumbers, cleaners, writers and gig workers, this episode explores how contractors should operate day to day. It covers the exact factors the Employment Relations Authority and the Courts focus on when deciding whether someone is genuinely independent or actually an employee. Think control, independence, risk, tools, and how integrated they really are. You will also hear why the legal test does not suddenly change just because the work is modern, digital, or part of the gig economy. Plus a quick update on the contractor law reforms that may be coming later this year, and what still applies right now in New Zealand. Perfect for a coffee break listen. Don't miss our updates and legal insights! Sign up to the Law Lenz Newsletter! CLICK HERE! Follow me on LinkedIn for key employment law updates. Got questions? Send them our way, and I will feature them in the next episode. Email your queries to asklawlenz@gmail.com. Check out the Law Lenz website HERE. Resources: Employee or Contractor - MBIE Disclaimer: The content presented in this episode is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as legal advice. The host does not assume any liability for actions taken based on the content of this podcast. While the host is a lawyer, they are not your lawyer and the information provided is based on general legal information. This podcast does not create a solicitor-client relationship.While we strive to keep the information accurate and up-to-date as at the date of each episode, laws and regulations may change, and the content of this podcast may not reflect the most current legal standards or interpretations. Listeners are encouraged to consult with a qualified New Zealand legal professional for advice tailored to their specific situation.

October 8, 2025Episode 6119 min

The Employment Leave Act - Everything We Know So Far

Is the Holidays Act finally getting scrapped? The Coalition Government has officially announced plans to ditch the Holidays Act and replace it with a new Employment Leave Act. If your brain immediately went to “uh oh… payroll,” you’re not alone! In this episode, join host Sanam as she breaks down everything we know so far about the announcement. From key changes to what the new rules mean for different types of workers, this episode covers everything you need to know. The road ahead is long, but this episode sets the scene and gives you a solid foundation to start preparing your business now. Want the full breakdown of the Employment Leave Act, including FAQs, timelines, comparison tables and a 3-phase action plan? [CLICK HERE] to download your free guide now! Follow Sanam on LinkedIn for key employment law updates. Don't miss our updates and legal insights! Sign up to the Law Lenz Newsletter! CLICK HERE! Got questions? Send them our way, and Sanam will feature them in the next episode. Email your queries to asklawlenz@gmail.com. Check out the Law Lenz website HERE. Resources: Holidays Act reform - Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment Disclaimer: The content presented in this episode is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as legal advice. The host does not assume any liability for actions taken based on the content of this podcast. While the host is a lawyer, they are not your lawyer and the information provided is based on general legal information. This podcast does not create a solicitor-client relationship.While we strive to keep the information accurate and up-to-date as at the date of each episode, laws and regulations may change, and the content of this podcast may not reflect the most current legal standards or interpretations. Listeners are encouraged to consult with a qualified New Zealand legal professional for advice tailored to their specific situation.

September 23, 2025Episode 6018 min

What to Say to Your Legal Representative (and Where to Find One)

You’ve just been hit with a personal grievance. Stress is high and the stakes feel even higher. The last thing you need is confusion about who to turn to or how to brief them. In this episode, host Sanam talks through the difference between lawyers, advocates and consultants, and how to decide who is the best fit for you. She also shares what to say when you meet with them, how to avoid wasting time and money, and a simple framework you can use to keep the conversation clear and focused. By the end, you’ll know how to find the right representative, ask the right questions, and walk into that meeting confident and prepared. Don't miss our updates and legal insights! Sign up to the Law Lenz Newsletter! CLICK HERE! Need help figuring out if you have the right worker on your hands? Download the ‘Who’s Your Worker?’ guide HERE - this is a FREE resource packed with top tips, FAQs, quizzes + more to help you classify your worker with confidence. Follow Sanam on LinkedIn for key employment law updates. Got questions? Send them our way, and Sanam will feature them in the next episode. Email your queries to asklawlenz@gmail.com. Check out the Law Lenz website HERE. Resources: Find a lawyer - NZ Law Society Representatives, help and advice - Employment Relations Authority Disclaimer: The content presented in this episode is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as legal advice. The host does not assume any liability for actions taken based on the content of this podcast. While the host is a lawyer, they are not your lawyer and the information provided is based on general legal information. This podcast does not create a solicitor-client relationship.While we strive to keep the information accurate and up-to-date as at the date of each episode, laws and regulations may change, and the content of this podcast may not reflect the most current legal standards or interpretations. Listeners are encouraged to consult with a qualified New Zealand legal professional for advice tailored to their specific situation.

September 15, 2025Episode 5920 min

Political Opinions at Work - Can Employees Be Fired for What They Say?

The shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk has ignited global conversations about free speech, politics, and the boundaries of expression. But how does this play out in your workplace? In New Zealand, political expression by employees is a legal minefield. Employers must carefully balance freedom of expression with the duty to protect reputation, maintain trust, and comply with employment law standards. In this episode, host Sanam breaks down the rules around political conversations at work. Here's what we'll cover: When an employee’s political opinions cross the line into misconduct How the Employment Relations Authority and Courts assess off-duty social media posts The tricky space for public sector employees under the their guidelines and framework Why “freedom of expression” is not a free pass in the NZ employment context Using recent cases and real-world examples, Sanam unpacks what NZ employers need to know about politics in the workplace. Because when global headlines collide with workplace compliance, you need more than opinions. You need to know your rights. Don't miss our updates and legal insights! Sign up to the Law Lenz Newsletter! CLICK HERE! Need help figuring out if you have the right worker on your hands? Download the ‘Who’s Your Worker?’ guide HERE - this is a FREE resource packed with top tips, FAQs, quizzes + more to help you classify your worker with confidence. Follow Sanam on LinkedIn for key employment law updates. Got questions? Send them our way, and Sanam will feature them in the next episode. Email your queries to asklawlenz@gmail.com. Check out the Law Lenz website HERE. Resources: Talking politics at work a bad idea - Wmrk Lawyers Discrimination at work - NZ Government Turner v. Te Whatu Ora – Health New Zealand, in respect of the former Wairarapa District Health Board [2023] NZEmpC 158 - Employment Court Case Pros and cons to political discussions at work: survey - HRD Mag NZ Political opinions at work: when is it grounds for dismissal? - HRD Mag NZ Disclaimer: The content presented in this episode is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as legal advice. The host does not assume any liability for actions taken based on the content of this podcast. While the host is a lawyer, they are not your lawyer and the information provided is based on general legal information. This podcast does not create a solicitor-client relationship.While we strive to keep the information accurate and up-to-date as at the date of each episode, laws and regulations may change, and the content of this podcast may not reflect the most current legal standards or interpretations. Listeners are encouraged to consult with a qualified New Zealand legal professional for advice tailored to their specific situation.

August 19, 2025Episode 5814 min

RIP Pay Secrecy – How to Prepare for the New Pay Transparency Laws

Pay secrecy in New Zealand workplaces is on its way out! With the Employment Relations (Employee Remuneration Disclosure) Amendment Bill moving through Parliament, employers will soon no longer be able to rely on confidentiality clauses to stop staff talking about pay. This is more than a legal technicality. It’s a cultural shift that will shape workplace transparency, trust, and team dynamics. It's critical to know how the law applies to you, but also what to expect when the change officially comes into place. Employers and HR need to be ready for the questions, the comparisons, and the conversations that will follow. In this episode, join our host Sanam as she breaks down what the bill is really about, what’s changing, and the new personal grievance risks. She will also share practical steps to prepare now. From auditing pay structures to reviewing employment agreements, building your comms plan, and training managers. This one is for HR professionals, business owners, and leaders across every industry in New Zealand who want to stay compliant and confident before the law changes hit. Craving more insights? Sign up to the Law Lenz Newsletter! CLICK HERE! Need help figuring out if you have the right worker on your hands? Download the ‘Who’s Your Worker?’ guide HERE - this is a FREE resource packed with top tips, FAQs, quizzes + more to help you classify your worker with confidence. Follow Sanam on LinkedIn for key employment law updates. Got questions? Send them our way, and Sanam will feature them in the next episode. Email your queries to asklawlenz@gmail.com. Check out the Law Lenz website HERE. Resources: Employment Relations (Employee Remuneration Disclosure) Amendment Bill - Parliament NZ New Zealand businesses urged to prepare for pay secrecy law - CFOtech article Legislation that lets workers talk about salaries likely to pass into law - RNZ article Disclaimer: The content presented in this episode is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as legal advice. The host does not assume any liability for actions taken based on the content of this podcast. While the host is a lawyer, they are not your lawyer and the information provided is based on general legal information. This podcast does not create a solicitor-client relationship.While we strive to keep the information accurate and up-to-date as at the date of each episode, laws and regulations may change, and the content of this podcast may not reflect the most current legal standards or interpretations. Listeners are encouraged to consult with a qualified New Zealand legal professional for advice tailored to their specific situation.

July 22, 2025Episode 5718 min

Workplace Romances - What the Coldplay Kiss Cam Can Teach Employers

The Coldplay kiss cam broke the internet last week and no one expected to see a CEO and CPO (yep, the head of HR!) in the spotlight. But beyond the headlines lies a much juicier compliance dilemma. We recognise that many employers across New Zealand probably haven't even thought about workplace relationships or where they can go wrong. In this episode, host Sanam pulls apart the legal implications of workplace romances, especially when the power dynamic is off-kilter. She unpacks the real-life case of Raravula v Northern Rescue Helicopter Ltd [2025] NZERA 238, where a workplace romance collided with serious employment consequences. You’ll learn: Whether NZ employers can actually "ban" relationships at work When disciplinary action could be justified How to manage risks without overstepping legal boundaries The key lessons from the Raravula case (and what Northern Rescue got right and wrong) If you’re in HR, lead a team, or just love a good case breakdown with a side of legal tea - this one’s for you. Craving more insights? Sign up to the Law Lenz Newsletter! CLICK HERE! Need help figuring out if you have the right worker on your hands? Download the ‘Who’s Your Worker?’ guide HERE - this is a FREE resource packed with top tips, FAQs, quizzes + more to help you classify your worker with confidence. Follow Sanam on LinkedIn for key employment law updates. Got questions? Send them our way, and Sanam will feature them in the next episode. Email your queries to asklawlenz@gmail.com. Check out the Law Lenz website HERE. Resources: ERA Determination Raravula v Northern Rescue Helicopter Ltd - Employment Relations Authority Disclaimer: The content presented in this episode is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as legal advice. The host does not assume any liability for actions taken based on the content of this podcast. While the host is a lawyer, they are not your lawyer and the information provided is based on general legal information. This podcast does not create a solicitor-client relationship.While we strive to keep the information accurate and up-to-date as at the date of each episode, laws and regulations may change, and the content of this podcast may not reflect the most current legal standards or interpretations. Listeners are encouraged to consult with a qualified New Zealand legal professional for advice tailored to their specific situation.

July 15, 2025Episode 5616 min

Good vs Bad Job Ads - What You Can (and Can't) Say

Job advertisements are often overlooked in the compliance conversation, but under New Zealand employment law, they matter more than you might think. The language you use can shape your brand, attract the right candidates, or land you in legal trouble (yikes!). In this episode, join host Sanam as she breaks down the legal risks hidden in everyday job ads. From subtle bias in wording to outright discriminatory requirements. You’ll learn what makes a job advertisement lawful, what crosses the legal line, and when exceptions might genuinely apply. Expect practical, real-world examples of non-compliant job ads, why they don’t meet the legal standard, and how to rewrite them in a way that is inclusive, accurate, and compliant. This episode covers: The Human Rights Act and Employment Relations Act governing job advertisements in New Zealand Legal risks and consequences of getting job ads wrong A mini checklist that can be used when reviewing the job ad How to spot and avoid discriminatory language Examples based on age, sex, disability, and family status When exceptions apply and what you need to prove If you’re an HR professional, hiring manager or business owner involved in hiring, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in to strengthen your recruitment process and protect your business. Craving more insights? Sign up to the Law Lenz Newsletter! CLICK HERE! Need help figuring out if you have the right worker on your hands? Download the ‘Who’s Your Worker?’ guide HERE - this is a FREE resource packed with top tips, FAQs, quizzes + more to help you classify your worker with confidence. Follow Sanam on LinkedIn for key employment law updates. Got questions? Send them our way, and Sanam will feature them in the next episode. Email your queries to asklawlenz@gmail.com. Check out the Law Lenz website HERE. Resources: Discrimination & prohibited grounds - Employment NZ Disclaimer: The content presented in this episode is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as legal advice. The host does not assume any liability for actions taken based on the content of this podcast. While the host is a lawyer, they are not your lawyer and the information provided is based on general legal information. This podcast does not create a solicitor-client relationship.While we strive to keep the information accurate and up-to-date as at the date of each episode, laws and regulations may change, and the content of this podcast may not reflect the most current legal standards or interpretations. Listeners are encouraged to consult with a qualified New Zealand legal professional for advice tailored to their specific situation.