In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer

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August 7, 2026Episode 311 hr 3 min

David Dault on The Accessorized Bible

Frank Schaeffer talks with David Dault about his book The Accessorized Bible and the difference between treating the Bible as an object and living Scripture as a practice of responsibility and love.The conversation explores faith, conversion, institutional corruption, moral seriousness, Pope Francis, Cornel West, and what Christianity looks like when vulnerable people become the center of the story._____LINKSThe Accessorized Bible_____I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said.  Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. The Gospel of Zip will be released in print and on Amazon Kindle, and as a full video on YouTube and Substack that you can watch or listen to for free.Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of The Gospel of Zip.Learn more at https://www.thegospelofzip.com/Follow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube.https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTubeIn Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

July 31, 2026Episode 301 hr 6 min

Whiplash: From the Battle for Obamacare to the War on Science

Frank Schaeffer welcomes David Blumenthal and James Morone to discuss their book Whiplash: From the Battle for Obamacare to the War on Science.The conversation explores the Affordable Care Act, Operation Warp Speed, the COVID pandemic, political polarization, misinformation, and the role of presidential leadership during national crises.Together they examine why America’s health care debates have become arguments about identity, community, science, and democracy itself._____LINKWhiplash: From the Battle for Obamacare to the War on Sciencehttps://www.commonwealthfund.org/person/david-blumenthalhttps://www.commonwealthfund.org/person/james-morone_____I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said.  Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. The Gospel of Zip will be released in print and on Amazon Kindle, and as a full video on YouTube and Substack that you can watch or listen to for free.Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of The Gospel of Zip.Learn more at https://www.thegospelofzip.com/Follow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube.https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTubeIn Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

July 24, 2026Episode 291 hr 27 min

Boz Tchividjian on Abuse, Accountability, and the Cost of Telling the Truth

Attorney Boz Tchividjian joins Frank Schaeffer for an honest conversation about abuse inside churches, institutional cover-ups, Christian nationalism, and the work of helping survivors seek justice.As Billy Graham’s grandson, Boz understands evangelical culture from the inside. As a lawyer, he has spent years holding institutions accountable when they fail the people they were meant to protect.Together they discuss celebrity pastors, patriarchal theology, clergy abuse, politics, and why accountability remains essential for any community that claims to value truth._____LINKShttps://bozlawpa.comI have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said.  Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. The Gospel of Zip will be released in print and on Amazon Kindle, and as a full video on YouTube and Substack that you can watch or listen to for free.Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of The Gospel of Zip.Learn more at https://www.thegospelofzip.com/Follow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube.https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTubeIn Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

July 21, 2026Episode 281 hr 18 min

Matthew Boedy on The Seven Mountains Mandate

Professor Matthew Boedy joins Frank Schaeffer to discuss The Seven Mountains Mandate: Exposing the Dangerous Plan to Christianize America and Destroy Democracy.Drawing on both scholarship and personal experience, Boedy traces the evolution of Christian nationalism from the Religious Right to today’s political movement. Frank reflects on his own family’s place in that history and considers how earlier evangelical ideas evolved into something very different.Together they discuss the Seven Mountains Mandate, Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA, Project 2025, education, media, masculinity, and the relationship between religion, politics, and power._____LINKShttps://www.matthewboedy.com/homehttps://substack.com/@matthewboedyhttps://x.com/MatthewBoedyhttps://www.wjkbooks.com/productauthor/matthew-boedy/_____I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said.  Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. The Gospel of Zip will be released in print and on Amazon Kindle, and as a full video on YouTube and Substack that you can watch or listen to for free.Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of The Gospel of Zip.Learn more at https://www.thegospelofzip.com/Follow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube.https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTubeIn Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

July 10, 2026Episode 271 hr 14 min

Why Congress Is "Stuck" with Maya L. Kornberg

Frank Schaeffer speaks with Maya Kornberg about her book Stuck: How Money, Media, and Violence Prevent Change in Congress.They discuss how Congress has been weakened by money, social media, political violence, understaffing, and decades of institutional neglect. This is a conversation about why Congress often fails, and why strengthening it may be one of the most urgent democratic tasks we face._____LINKShttps://www.mayakornberg.com/https://bookshop.org/a/99692/9781421454580_____I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said.  Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. The Gospel of Zip will be released in print and on Amazon Kindle, and as a full video on YouTube and Substack that you can watch or listen to for free.Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of The Gospel of Zip.Learn more at https://www.thegospelofzip.com/Follow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube.https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTubeIn Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

June 26, 2026Episode 261 hr 10 min

Helen Benedict on War, Refugees, and The Soldier’s House

Frank Schaeffer talks with author and journalist Helen Benedict about her novel The Soldier’s House, the Iraq War, military trauma, refugees, and the hidden costs of American foreign policy.Helen shares how years of interviewing veterans and survivors shaped both her journalism and her fiction. Together they discuss women serving in combat zones, sexual violence inside the military, PTSD, immigration, and the long emotional shadow cast by war.This is a thoughtful and deeply human conversation about responsibility, memory, and survival._____LINKShttps://www.helenbenedict.comhttps://www.facebook.com/helen.benedict.5https://www.instagram.com/benedict.helen/Our June It Has to Be Read. offering,The Soldier's House on Bookshop_____I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said.  Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. The Gospel of Zip will be released in print and on Amazon Kindle, and as a full video on YouTube and Substack that you can watch or listen to for free.Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of The Gospel of Zip.Learn more at https://www.thegospelofzip.com/Follow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube.https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTubeIn Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

June 19, 2026Episode 251 hr 25 min

Paul Eastwick, PhD, on Love, Attachment, and the Myths We Tell About Relationships

Frank talks with psychologist Paul Eastwick about the science of attraction, attachment, marriage, and long-term companionship.Drawing from his book Bonded by Evolution: The New Science of Love and Connection, Paul challenges the idea that relationships are mostly about status, dominance, or “mate value.” Instead, he argues that humans evolved for bonding, caregiving, emotional support, and mutual dependence.The conversation also explores online dating culture, the manosphere, sexuality, compatibility, and why people often misunderstand what makes relationships work._____LINKShttps://pauleastwick.comhttps://www.lovefactuallypod.comOur June It Has to Be Read. offering,Bonded by Evolution: The New Science of Love and Connection on BookshopI have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said.  Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. The Gospel of Zip will be released in print and on Amazon Kindle, and as a full video on YouTube and Substack that you can watch or listen to for free.Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of The Gospel of Zip.Learn more at https://www.thegospelofzip.com/Follow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube.https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTubeIn Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

June 12, 2026Episode 241 hr 7 min

Atima Omara Asks "What Happens When Democrats Refuse to Learn?"

Frank Schaeffer talks with political strategist and author Atima Omara about her new book The Instigators and the deeper failures shaping American politics today.They discuss race, religion, Trumpism, Project 2025, Kamala Harris, media ecosystems, the Democratic Party’s blind spots, and the historic role Black women have played in defending democracy while rarely receiving full recognition or power.Atima also reflects on growing up in Virginia as the daughter of Ugandan immigrants and what years inside political organizing taught her about how change actually happens._____LINKShttps://atima-omara.comOur June It Has to Be Read. offering,The Instigators: How Black Women Have Been Essential to American Democracy (And What We Can Learn from Them) on Bookshop_____I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said.  Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. The Gospel of Zip will be released in print and on Amazon Kindle, and as a full video on YouTube and Substack that you can watch or listen to for free.Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of The Gospel of Zip.Learn more at https://www.thegospelofzip.com/Follow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube.https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTubeIn Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

June 5, 2026Episode 231 hr 24 min

Michael O. Emerson on Race, White Evangelicalism, and Christian Nationalism

Frank Schaeffer talks with sociologist Michael O. Emerson about the updated edition of Divided by Faith: Evangelical Religion and the Problem of Race in America.They discuss why racial division inside white evangelical culture has intensified over the last 25 years, how Christian nationalism reshaped American politics, and why churches often failed to confront segregation while other institutions succeeded.Frank also shares personal reflections on growing up in Francis Schaeffer’s community in Switzerland and living in apartheid South Africa.A grounded conversation about race, religion, power, memory, and the America we built._____LINKShttps://www.bakerinstitute.org/expert/michael-o-emersonhttps://christiansmith.nd.eduOur June It Has to Be Read. offering,Divided by Faith: Evangelical Religion and the Problem of Race in America, Second Edition on Bookshop_____I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said.  Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. The Gospel of Zip will be released in print and on Amazon Kindle, and as a full video on YouTube and Substack that you can watch or listen to for free.Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of The Gospel of Zip.Learn more at https://www.thegospelofzip.com/Follow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube.https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTubeIn Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

May 29, 2026Episode 2258 min

Elise Ann Allen on Pope Leo XIV, Friendship, Humanity, and Moral Leadership

Frank Schaeffer talks with Vatican journalist Elise Ann Allen about her new biography of Pope Leo XIV and why the new pope has already become such an important moral figure for many people around the world.Elise was the first journalist to interview Pope Leo after his election and shares personal stories about their friendship, his years serving the poor in Peru, and the humility that continues to shape him even now.The conversation also explores faith, politics, AI, immigration, polarization, and what happens when human dignity is forgotten.A thoughtful and deeply human conversation about leadership, conscience, and hope._____LINKShttps://cruxnow.com/author/elise-ann-allenOur May It Has to Be Read. offering,Pope Leo XIV on Bookshop_____I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said.  Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. The Gospel of Zip will be released in print and on Amazon Kindle, and as a full video on YouTube and Substack that you can watch or listen to for free.Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of The Gospel of Zip.Learn more at https://www.thegospelofzip.com/Follow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube.https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTubeIn Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

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