Hidden Money Podcast

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In the Hidden Money podcast, you'll learn how you can legally use the tax code to your financial advantage. There’s wealth inside the tax code. Taxes aren’t the enemy. Most people hate taxes (and pay more than they should). But when you view taxes only as an evil expense, you miss out on legal ways to grow your wealth. Unlock the secrets to saving tax and building wealth with the Hidden Money Podcast! 🎧💰 Hosted by Mike Pine and Kevin Schneider.

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June 16, 2026Episode 1527 min

Big Wins

Most people think tax savings are reserved for the ultra-wealthy. In this episode, Mike Pine and Kevin Schneider pull back the curtain on their biggest client wins from this filing season: real numbers, real strategies, and a clear picture of what proactive tax planning can do for high earners who are willing to be proactive and start before December.If you want to save, like the taxpayers we mentioned in this episode, reach out today! 🔗 https://www.revotaxpayer.com/consultation?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=linkedin&utm_campaign=s4e15-big-wins&utm_content=show-notesConnect With UsWebsite: https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcastChapters[00:00:00] Introduction — What is proactive tax planning, and why does it matter more than tax preparation?[00:01:23] Big Wins by the Numbers — Mike reads through the top-15 client savings list from this season, with the lowest win coming in at over $100,000.[00:06:51] Why You Need a Tax Strategist, Not a Tax Preparer — The difference between an IRS traffic cop and a true tax advocate, and why most CPAs never reach out until January.[00:11:36] Section 1202: The $700K Win — How one HVAC business owner discovered he could sell his company completely tax-free — after he'd already assumed he owed $700,000.[00:14:11] Opportunity Zones & Rural Opportunity Zones — A tech worker sitting on a major stock gain finds a legal path to shelter and eventually eliminate that gain by investing in Broken Bow, Oklahoma.[00:19:20] Step-Up in Basis & Estate Planning — Two cases where inherited assets carried far less tax liability than clients expected — once someone actually looked.[00:23:25] The Alternate Valuation Date Case — A CPA's missed estate filing cost a client dearly, and how catching it after the fact still saved the day.[00:24:59] The Bottom Line — Six months left in the year. Why now is the time to act, and what to look for in a tax advocate.

June 9, 2026Episode 1422 min

Golf Course PPA

In the latest episode of the Hidden Money Podcast, Mike and Kevin walk through one of the most creatively structured deals of Mike's twenty-six-year tax career: a golf course acquisition where purchase price allocation under IRC 1060 produced extraordinary depreciation for investors, multiple investor classes were structured to accommodate different investor needs, and a neighboring hotel and marina were contributed into the deal tax-free under IRC 721.If you're a syndicator or real estate investor wondering how to stand out in a tough market, this is definitely required listening.Connect With UsWebsite: https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcastChapters[00:00] Introduction — Mike previews the golf course deal and why he's never been more excited about a client project[00:47] Setting the stage — Kevin and Mike describe how the initial call came in before the offer was submitted[01:25] The client — Josh, a syndicator at Accountable Equity who builds high-end resort destinations[02:24] The key lesson — Why calling your CPA before you make an offer is worth millions[03:11] The golf courses — Two high-end courses being purchased together[05:26] IRC 1060 and the PPA opportunity — How Mike realized this was a purchase price allocation deal, not just a cost seg[07:50] What's really under the grass — Drainage systems, bunker retaining infrastructure, composite greens sub-bases[10:00] The numbers — Why the allocation exceeded the 30% investors were originally expecting[11:30] Negotiating with the seller — The seller's tax director, the recapture question, and why it worked[13:00] Investor classes — Designing different return structures for different investor needs[16:30] The hotel and marina — Josh's resort plan and the financing challenge[17:30] IRC 721 contribution — How the hotel and marina owners joined the deal tax-free[19:00] Career highlight — Mike calls this a top-five moment in his twenty-six-year career[19:57] Wrap-up and CTA for syndicators

June 2, 2026Episode 1328 min

Reducing Taxes as a Business Owner

If you're a business owner, or a W-2 employee with a side hustle, the tax code has more working for you than you've been told. In this episode of the Hidden Money Podcast, Mike Pine and Kevin Schneider walk through the real mechanics of turning what you already do into legal, proactive tax strategy. From fishing boats and Cybertrucks to paying your kids and funding their Roth IRAs, this is a masterclass for anyone serious about keeping more of what they earn.Whether you're a full-time business owner, an Airbnb host, a hobbyist who charges people for what you love, or a W-2 earner with money sitting in a checking account: this episode shows you exactly how to put the tax code to work.What You'll LearnWhy you probably already have a business and don't know it, like a hobby or side-hustle, and how it could unlock hundreds of deductionsHow bonus depreciation on vehicles over 6,000 lbs can generate massive first-year write-offsThe 7-part material participation test (and why you only need to pass one)How to pay your children through your business, legally and tax-freeHow to fund your kids' Roth IRAs using wages your business deductsThe hobby loss rule and how to protect yourself from an IRS auditReal client stories: an engineer with a woodworking hobby-turned-business and paid zero taxes for two years, a Turo operator who turned $32,000 into a $140,000 tax benefit; while both worked full-time W-2 jobsConnect With UsWebsite: https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcastChapters[00:00] — Welcome & Episode Intro: Reducing Taxes as a Business Owner[00:41] — You Don't Need a Full-Time Business — Side Hustles Count[01:40] — What Makes an Expense "Ordinary and Necessary"[02:56] — Case Study: The Woodworking Engineer Who Paid Zero Taxes for Two Years[05:33] — Airbnbs, DoorDash, and Turning Everyday Activities Into Deductions[06:29] — The Cybertruck Turo Story: $32K In, $140K Tax Benefit[13:45] — Material Participation Explained (The 7-Part Test, Simplified)[15:02] — Paying Your Kids Through Your Business — The Right Way[18:52] — Hobby Loss Rules: How to Keep Your Side Business IRS-Protected[20:47] — Mike's College Tax Audit — and What He Learned From Winning It

May 26, 2026Episode 1239 min

Golf Courses, Tax-Free Income, and the Syndication Strategy Your CPA Never Told You About

What does it look like when a great investment and a great tax structure collide?In this episode of the Hidden Money Podcast, Mike and Kevin sit down with Josh McCallen — founder of Accountable Equity and VIVAMEE Hospitality — to unpack one of the most remarkable syndicated deals we've come across in our careers.Josh's team acquired Queenstown Harbour Golf: 790 acres, 54 championship golf holes, five miles of waterfront, and the number one destination golf brand in Maryland... for less than half the replacement cost of the courses alone. With strategic purchase price allocation, we structured 50% day-one depreciation for investors, with a clear pathway to tax-free income for years to come.We cover how Josh cracked the code on experiential hospitality, why his total revenue per available room (tRevPAR) reaches $803–$1,100 per night versus an industry standard of $150, and how passive losses can become tax-free income over time. Mike and Kevin also break down real estate professional status and why proactive planning on the front end of a deal changes everything on the back end.This is not just a tax investment, but a great business with a tax structure that rewards you on both ends.Interested in creative, strategic, and beneficial tax planning? Reach out at https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Connect with usWebsite: https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcastChapters[00:05] — Introduction: Meet Josh McCallen of Accountable Equity[01:17] — The Efficient Income Fund: How Josh Found 100% Bonus Depreciation Before We Met[02:13] — Operating Leases, Equipment Ownership, and Passing Through Tax Benefits[03:57] — Why High-Earning Business Owners Shouldn't Pay Tax on Enterprise Value[06:04] — From Poverty to 1,000 Employees: Josh's Hospitality Origin Story[11:41] — What Makes Accountable Equity Different From Every Other Syndicator[13:55] — The tRevPAR Reveal: $803–$1,100 Per Room vs. the $150 Industry Standard[19:37] — How Passive Losses Become Tax-Free Income (And What We Do About It)[22:46] — The Deal: 900 Acres, 54 Golf Holes, and a Half-Price Acquisition[34:51] — The Opportunity: 50% Day-One Depreciation and How to Get InvolvedDisclaimer: This is not a CPA firm and these services are not regulated by the Texas State Board of Public Accountancy. This content is for educational purposes and does not constitute tax or legal advice. Always consult a qualified tax professional for your situation.

May 19, 2026Episode 1126 min

Reducing Taxes as a W-2 Earner

Think you can't save on taxes as a W-2 earner? That's the myth Mike and Kevin are blowing up in this episode. From the surprising history of how withholding was designed to keep you from noticing your tax bill, to real strategies that saved one family over $280,000, this one is packed with practical, eye-opening content for anyone earning a salary.4 Key TakeawaysGetting a tax refund doesn't mean you saved money. It means you gave the IRS an interest-free loan all year.Your W-2 income is an active income problem, and only active losses can meaningfully move the needle. Passive and portfolio strategies won't cut it.A stay-at-home spouse getting a real estate license generated $280K in combined income and tax savings, using assets the family already had.Max your 401(k) last, not first. It's the most talked-about W-2 tax move and often the least impactful for high earners.If you're a high W-2 earner and your CPA's best advice is to max your 401(k), how much are you actually leaving on the table? Like, subscribe, and share this with a friend on a high W-2 who thinks there's nothing they can do. Ready to attack your active income problem? Reach out at https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Connect with usWebsite: https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcastChapters[00:00] — Welcome: Busting the W-2 Tax Myth[01:49] — The Hidden Cost of Mandatory Withholding[05:46] — Why Getting a Refund Means You Overpaid[08:24] — The 401(k): Useful But Overrated[12:33] — Tax 101: The Three Buckets of Income[15:47] — Active Losses: The Most Powerful Tool in Tax Planning[17:06] — Real Strategies: Charity, Real Estate & Leveraged Investments[20:07] — Come to Us in June, Not December[21:08] — The Physician's Wife: A $280K Tax Planning Story[24:41] — Closing: So Many Ways to Tackle Your W-2 ProblemDisclaimer: This is not a CPA firm and these services are not regulated by the Texas State Board of Public Accountancy. This content is for educational purposes and does not constitute tax or legal advice. Always consult a qualified tax professional for your situation.

May 13, 2026Episode 1026 min

Defining Your Tax Beast

You're not paying too much in taxes because the tax code is impossible. You're paying too much because you haven't defined your tax beast yet. In this episode, Mike and Kevin break down the real obstacles standing between high earners and serious tax savings: procrastination, ignorance, IRS fear, and the silent killer... a CPA who doesn't actually do tax strategy.4 Key TakeawaysProcrastination cost one entrepreneur's 150 investors $1.4 million in tax savings. Kevin had the plan ready in October and didn't hear back until March.One hour of tax planning a month is all it takes. Revo brings the ideas, the code, and the next steps. You just show up.Don't fear the IRS if you're following the law. Fear-based tax compliance is exactly what keeps you overpaying.In one first consultation, Mike found three things that will save a brand new client over $250,000. And that was before even a single new strategy was implemented.What beast is standing between you and keeping more of your money?Like, subscribe, and share with someone who keeps putting off their tax planning. Ready to name your beast? Reach out at https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Connect with usWebsite: https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcastChapters[00:00] — Cold Open: Define Your Tax Beast[01:01] — Welcome: Why Right Now Is the Time to Plan[01:50] — What Is a Tax Beast, Exactly?[02:32] — Beast #1: Procrastination — The $1.4M Story[05:53] — Beast #2: Ignorance & Burying Your Head in the Sand[08:10] — One Hour a Month Can Change Everything[09:47] — Beast #3: The "I'll Pay My Fair Share" Guilt Trip[13:00] — You Don't Need to Understand the Tax Code[15:11] — $250K Saved in One Call: A New Client Story[22:09] — Beast #4: Fearing the IRS — And Why You Shouldn'tTaxPlanning TaxStrategy, IRS, Hidden Money Podcast, Revo Taxpayer AdvocacyDisclaimer: This is not a CPA firm and these services are not regulated by the Texas State Board of Public Accountancy. This content is for educational purposes and does not constitute tax or legal advice. Always consult a qualified tax professional for your situation.

May 5, 2026Episode 926 min

Be a Big Fish in a Little Pond

If your CPA doesn't know your name, you're a small fish in a big pond... and it's costing you. In this episode, Mike and Kevin break down why big accounting firms are structurally incapable of serving high earners well, share real client stories where the difference in service was life-changing, and explain exactly how Revo is built differently from the ground up.Some of the key discussion pointsA $3M earner couldn't get a callback for three weeks from a Big 10 firm. Revo got her a cost segregation estimate the same afternoon.Big firms are built on billable hours, not client outcomes. The incentives are not aligned in the client's favor.Revo deliberately overpays staff and builds excess capacity so clients never fall through the cracks, but always receive premium strategy and service.You don't have to settle for being just a number. Whether you're a client or a CPA, there's a better pond for you to be a big fish in.Are you paying for a big firm's reputation while receiving poor, unpersonalized service?Like, subscribe, and share with someone who deserves better than a three-week wait on a simple question. Ready to be a big fish? Reach out at https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Connect with usWebsite: https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcastChapters[00:00] — Cold Open: Small Fish, Big Pond[00:48] — Welcome: What It Means to Be the Big Fish[01:27] — Mike's Football Story: Choosing the Right Pond[02:25] — The $3M Client the Big Firm Ignored[04:50] — Three Weeks. No Response. Not Even a Cost Seg Estimate.[05:37] — All Our Clients Are Big Fish[08:00] — The Big Four Partner Getting Underserved by His Own Firm[11:00] — Why Revo Overpays Staff and Caps Hours[19:26] — An Invitation to CPAs: Come Be a Big Fish With Us[25:37] — Closing: Come Join the Little Pond With a Big MissionDisclaimer: This is not a CPA firm and these services are not regulated by the Texas State Board of Public Accountancy. This content is for educational purposes and does not constitute tax or legal advice. Always consult a qualified tax professional for your situation.

April 28, 2026Episode 820 min

Out-of-the-Box Tax Strategies that Actually Work

Most CPAs file your return and move on. We're not hating! It's just how it often goes. And it's also why one of our primary values is out-of-the-box thinking. In this episode, Mike and Kevin show you what out-of-the-box looks like by unpacking two of their favourite creative tax strategy examples: the Box House investment and a $30M+ golf resort syndication deal where outside-the-box tax thinking solved a business problem nobody else could crack.You'll hear about how:The Box House strategy turns a $100K passive investment into a $500K tax deduction... legally, with court opinions to back itCreative tax planning can make or break an entire business dealMost CPAs stop at "no." The difference is curiosity: digging into a reputable tax opinion instead of dismissing itYou should call your tax strategist before you sign on the dotted line. Once the deal is structured, the window closesWhat big transaction do you have coming up that your CPA doesn't even know about yet? 💰Like, subscribe, and share this with someone about to sign a deal without calling their tax strategist first. Ready to think outside the box? Reach out at https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Connect with usWebsite: https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcastChapters[00:00] — Cold Open: Your CPA Should Be Talking to You[00:30] — Welcome: Revo's Four Core Values (REVO)[01:03] — R is for Relationships[01:35] — E is for Excellence[02:11] — O is for Outside the Box[03:46] — Strategy #1: The Box House Explained[07:30] — Is the Box House Actually Legal?[10:08] — Strategy #2: The $30M Golf Resort Deal[16:14] — Call Your Tax Strategist Before You Sign[19:30] — Even Small Transactions Deserve a Five-Minute CallDisclaimer: This content is for educational purposes and does not constitute tax or legal advice. Always consult a qualified tax professional for your situation.

April 21, 2026Episode 723 min

How a $60K Investment Saved $80K in Taxes

Tax season is over, and if your first thought is relief instead of excitement, this episode is your wake-up call. Mike and Kevin resurface from the trenches, break down how the CPA industry's busy-season grind creates the conditions for missed strategies, and share a real short-term rental story where $60K in inheritance became $80K in tax savings.A Couple Key TakeawaysTax season ending is not the finish line, but an opportunity to begin proactively planning for the year aheadThe CPA industry's profit model depends on overworked staff, which is exactly why mistakes happenA $60K inheritance invested in a short-term rental can generate more in tax savings than it costs to buyCookie-cutter "tax planning" from social media gurus pushing 2-3 strategies on every client is not planning... it's guessingIf your CPA surprised you with a big bill this April, what are you going to do differently before next April? Like, subscribe, and share this with someone still stinging from tax season. Ready to stop being surprised? Reach out at https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Connect with usWebsite: https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcastChapters[00:00] — Cold Open: The Pain of Tax Season[00:38] — Welcome Back: Surviving Tax Season[01:07] — If You Haven't Filed Yet, Stop Listening[01:36] — Life After the Deadline[03:13] — How the CPA Industry Profits from Overwork[06:01] — Treat Your Team the Way You Want to Be Treated[07:10] — Now's the Time to Get Proactive[07:22] — Case Study: The $60K Inheritance That Saved $80K in Tax[13:15] — Why Cookie-Cutter Tax Planning Fails[20:10] — Revo's Core Values & What's Coming Next WeekDisclaimer: This content is for educational purposes and does not constitute tax or legal advice. Always consult a qualified tax professional for your situation.

April 14, 2026Episode 622 min

The Costly Tax Mistakes Your CPA is Probably Making

Tomorrow's tax day! For some of you listening, that might be anxiety inducing.For most of our clients, it's actually a good day, because they can be confident they have a proactive tax strategy and filing in place that's helping them save significantly. In this episode, Mike and Kevin break down real client stories where CPAs missed massive tax-saving opportunities, and what proactive tax strategy actually looks like in practice.Some of the important takeaways you'll hear:➡️ Your CPA filing your return isn't the same as your CPA saving you money... and the difference can be six figures➡️ Owner-occupied real estate can offset operating income in ways most CPAs never tell you about➡️ Zero officer comp in your S Corp isn't just risky, it's costing you your QBI deduction➡️ You get what you pay for: don't be surprised if a $400 tax return comes with a $40,000 mistakeIs your CPA calling you first with a clear tax strategy? Or just sending you a bill?Ready to stop overpaying? Reach out at https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Connect with usWebsite: https://www.revotaxpayer.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcastChapters[00:00] — The $1M Mistake[00:35] — Welcome & It's Tax Day Eve[01:00] — File Your Extension (Before Midnight)[01:36] — Why Tax Day Is a Win for Revo Clients[03:22] — Overlooked Opportunities: How We Review New Clients[04:15] — Case Study: The Memory Care Facility[07:57] — The Bowling Alley Tax Call[12:51] — Case Study: The Three-Business Owner[15:48] — S Corp Compliance & The QBI Miss[20:12] — What $400 Tax Prep Really Costs YouDisclaimer: This content is for educational purposes and does not constitute tax or legal advice. Always consult a qualified tax professional for your situation.