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Come hang out with Rabah Rahil (CMO @ Fermat), Chase Mohseni (CMO @ Heatmap.com), and Aaron Orendorff (Head of Marketing @Recart) as they discuss how to create enduring SaaS brands & products in all the ways you never would have considered.

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April 8, 2024Episode 71 hr 4 min

S2 E7: WTF is GTM?

SummaryIn this episode of Growth Vault, our hosts discuss various aspects of go-to-market (GTM) strategy and its importance in driving growth. They start by celebrating their recent Series A funding and the successful launch of their new website. They emphasize the need for clear ownership and decision-making in marketing, as well as the importance of taking calculated risks and learning from mistakes. The hosts also explore the different perspectives on GTM and its relationship to growth marketing. They conclude by highlighting the need for a customized GTM approach that aligns with the unique needs and goals of each organization. In this conversation, Rabah, Aaron, and Chase discuss the definition and role of go-to-market (GTM) strategies in marketing. They explore the relationship between GTM and product marketing, clarifying terminology and definitions. The conversation delves into the atomic units of GTM, including distribution, messaging, content, and measuring success. The importance of playing to one's strengths in marketing is emphasized, and the conversation concludes with a summary of the key points discussed.TakeawaysClear ownership and decision-making are crucial in marketingTaking calculated risks and learning from mistakes is important for growthGTM strategy should be customized to align with the unique needs of each organizationGrowth marketing and GTM are closely related and should work together Go-to-market (GTM) strategies are a function of product marketing and involve activating networks, messaging, content, and measuring success.GTM can be seen as a subset of marketing, with marketing encompassing the broader goal of getting people to know, like, and trust a product or brand.The success of GTM strategies depends on understanding the target audience, creating compelling content, and effectively distributing the message.It is important to focus on strengths in marketing and make weaknesses non-existential threats.Results and performance are more important than systems and frameworks in marketing.Sound BitesChapters00:00Introduction and Series A Funding02:48The Coordinated Strike and Marketing KPIs07:00Making Mistakes and Decision-Making09:11The Importance of Base Hits and Risk-Taking13:08Defining Go-to-Market (GTM) Strategy23:12Growth Marketing and GTM Motion27:56Understanding GTM in the Context of Growth31:56The Proliferation of GTM and Nomenclature33:01Defining GTM for Each Organization35:13Defining GTM and Marketing38:34Understanding the Role of GTM in Product Marketing39:22Clarifying Terminology and Definitions40:05Go-to-Market Strategies for Product Launches45:29The Importance of Atomic Level Ingredients47:50The Four Atomic Units of GTM52:36Different Approaches to GTM53:28The Importance of Content and Messaging54:50Distribution and Messaging in GTM58:05Playing to Your Strengths in Marketing01:00:39Summary and Closing RemarksFollow Rabah on X or LinkedInFollow Aaron on X or LinkedInFollow Chase on X or LinkedInFollow Growth Vault on X

February 26, 2024Episode 61 hr 30 min

S2 E6: Competitive Advantages are all that matter

SummaryIn this episode of Growth Vault, the hosts discuss various topics including the Super Bowl halftime show, commercials, and the impact of the pandemic on the B2B SaaS market. They review ProfitWell's B2B SaaS Marketing Report, which highlights the decline in compounded annual growth rate and the increase in churn rate. The hosts also explore the concept of competitive advantage and the importance of pricing strategies in the current market. The conversation explores the concept of unfair advantages and competitive advantage, using Shopify as an example. It delves into the different types of advantages companies can have, such as cornered resources, branding, and network economies. The discussion also highlights the importance of product differentiation and the impact it has on marketing and sales.Additionally, the conversation touches on the idea of competing where others can't by offering unique value propositions and pricing models. Finally, the episode concludes with a brief overview of Shopify's impressive fourth-quarter results. In this conversation, the hosts discuss various aspects of Shopify's performance and growth. They highlight Shopify's success in balancing marketplace building and avoiding Sherlocking. They also explore Shopify's expansion into the B2B market and the potential impact on pricing models. The hosts emphasize the importance of net new customers for sustainable growth and discuss Shopify's focus on top-tier stores. They also examine the credibility of Shopify and its unification of data. The conversation touches on the Buy With Prime feature on Shopify and the implications for customer behavior. Finally, the hosts express excitement for the future of commerce and the potential for offer testing.TakeawaysThe Super Bowl halftime show and commercials can be a reflection of current marketing trends and consumer preferences.The B2B SaaS market has experienced a decline in growth rate and an increase in churn rate, indicating the need for businesses to adapt and find new strategies for growth.Competitive advantage is crucial in the current market, and businesses should focus on providing value and differentiating themselves from competitors.Pricing strategies should be based on the value provided to customers, and businesses should communicate pricing changes effectively to maintain customer satisfaction. Unfair advantages can give companies a competitive edge, such as cornered resources, branding, and network economies.Product differentiation is crucial for companies to stand out and create a unique value proposition.Competing where others can't involves offering something that competitors cannot replicate or access, often at a lower price or with additional value.Shopify's fourth-quarter results demonstrate its strong performance and growth, with increased revenue and gross merchandise volume. Shopify has achieved impressive growth and success in balancing marketplace building and avoiding Sherlocking.The expansion into the B2B market presents opportunities for Shopify, but pricing models may need to be adjusted.Net new customers are crucial for sustainable growth, and Shopify's focus on top-tier stores reflects this strategy.Shopify's credibility and unification of data make it an attractive option for larger businesses.The Buy With Prime feature on Shopify has both advantages and disadvantages, and its impact on customer behavior should be considered.The future of commerce lies in offer testing and experimentation, with a focus on personalized and mobile experiences.Overall, there is excitement for the future of Shopify and the potential for continued growth and innovation.Chapters00:00Intro and Super Bowl Recap12:26Review of ProfitWell's B2B SaaS Marketing Report19:45Is the Worst Behind Us?25:45Competitive Advantage and Pricing Strategies34:32Unfair Advantages and Competitive Advantage46:42Competing Where Others Can't01:06:36Churn and Pricing01:08:18Shopify's Fourth Quarter Results01:09:41Shopify's Performance and Growth01:10:38Shopify's Expansion into B2B01:11:41The Importance of Net New Customers for Growth01:12:56Shopify's Focus on Top Tier Stores01:14:18Shopify's Credibility and Unification of Data01:15:45The Buy With Prime Feature on Shopify01:17:19The Impact of Offering Buy With Prime01:19:29The Friction and Inertia of Buying on Amazon01:20:49The Future of Commerce and Offer Testing01:22:15Excitement for the FutureFollow Rabah on X or LinkedInFollow Aaron on X or LinkedInFollow Chase on X or LinkedInFollow Growth Vault on X

January 24, 2024Episode 51 hr 3 min

S2 E5: The innovator's dilemma

SummaryIn this episode of Growth Vault , the hosts discuss exciting market developments, including Notion's acquisition of Coda and the challenges of supply side innovation. They also explore the concept of the Innovator's Dilemma and how it can lead to the downfall of companies like Envision. The conversation emphasizes the importance of building a feature within a larger business strategy and the need to create meaningful companies that solve real problems. The conversation explores the challenges of thinking bigger in the startup world and the pressure to achieve unicorn status. It also delves into the complexities of raising venture capital and the influence it can have on a company's direction. The economics and business model of WeWork are discussed, highlighting the challenges and limitations of the coworking space industry. The importance of understanding customer needs and the concept of the innovator's dilemma are also explored. The conversation concludes with a discussion on balancing innovation with maintaining a strong core product.TakeawaysNotion's acquisition of Coda demonstrates the power of understanding user needs and innovating on the right vectors.The Innovator's Dilemma highlights the challenges faced by established companies in adapting to disruptive technologies and business models.Building a feature without a clear path to becoming a full-fledged product can lead to stagnation and loss of market share.Companies should focus on building meaningful products that solve real problems and provide value to customers. The startup world often puts pressure on entrepreneurs to think bigger and aim for unicorn status, but it's important to stay true to the anatomy and economics of your business.Raising venture capital comes with obligations and the risk of losing control over your company's direction. It's crucial to have a champion at the fund who understands and supports your vision.WeWork's business model faced challenges due to the high price points and the lack of control over branding and customization. The stepping stone problem also posed a challenge as companies outgrew the coworking space.Understanding the jobs to be done by your customers and meeting their needs is essential for long-term success. Innovation should be driven by these needs and not just for the sake of innovation.Integration and connectivity between different software platforms can be a powerful tool for companies, as seen with Zapier's success.Chapters00:00Introduction and NYC01:40Exciting Market Developments04:31Notion's Acquisition of Coda07:51The Innovator's Dilemma25:41Envision's Downfall32:26Building a Feature vs. Building a Business36:19The Innovator's Dilemma and M&A38:32Supply Side Innovation39:29Building Meaningful Companies39:47The Pressure to Think Bigger40:46Challenges of Raising VC Money42:15The Fun and Serious Side of Startups43:06The Economics of WeWork44:01The Stepping Stone Problem45:27The Pull of WeWork46:24The WeWork Business Model47:46Understanding Customer Needs49:13The Innovator's Dilemma50:08The Power of Integration51:04Balancing Innovation and Core ProductFollow Rabah on X or LinkedInFollow Aaron on X or LinkedInFollow Chase on X or LinkedInFollow Growth Vault on X

January 8, 2024Episode 41 hr 28 min

S2 E4: Creating Value 101

In this episode of Growth Vault, the hosts discuss their predictions for the e-commerce and B2B SaaS market in 2024. They explore the role of AI in value creation and extraction, emphasizing the importance of AI as a multiplier and the need for thoughtful implementation. The hosts also discuss the impact of elections on the market and the rise of M&A in the industry. They delve into the difference between product and marketing, focusing on value creation and extraction. The episode concludes with a discussion on the middle ground of value realization. The conversation explores the importance of user experience and the undervaluation of experience in the retention cycle. The challenges of building relationships and the friction of relationship-based interactions are discussed. Clear communication and setting expectations early are highlighted as crucial factors. The conversation also delves into the qualitative vs quantitative approach and the role of marketing in creating value for users and product in generating business impact. The distinction between attention and intention is explored, as well as the challenges of generating demand and capturing it. The conversation concludes with the importance of moving from attention to intention. In this conversation, the speakers discuss the importance of qualifying leads and the tactics they use to do so. They emphasize the need for a simple and effective qualification process to ensure that the right customers are targeted. They also highlight the value of using data to inform the qualification process and make informed decisions. The speakers share their experiences with different qualification methods and the criteria they use to determine if a lead is a good fit. They stress the importance of not pursuing all revenue and being selective in choosing customers. The conversation concludes with closing remarks and plugs for various resources.TakeawaysAI is a multiplier and can drive value creation and extraction when implemented thoughtfully.The e-commerce and B2B SaaS market is expected to experience growth in 2024, with a focus on value creation and contribution margin.The impact of elections on the market may bring uncertainty and increased ad spending, leading to higher CPMs.The market is likely to see more consolidation and M&A activity, with private equity becoming a source of capital for e-commerce and DTC businesses.The distinction between value creation and extraction is important, with marketing focused on creating value in the market and product focused on extracting value from customers. Having a simple and effective qualification process is crucial for targeting the right customers.Using data to inform the qualification process can lead to more informed decisions.Not all revenue is good revenue, and it's important to be selective in choosing customers.Being willing to say no to customers who are not a good fit can save time and resources.Chapters00:00Introduction and Excitement for Season 200:332024 Predictions for E-commerce and B2B SaaS03:11The Role of AI in Value Creation and Extraction09:04The Impact of Elections on E-commerce12:51The Future of AI and the Need for New Social Contracts15:14Market Rip and the Rise of M&A19:46The Difference Between Product and Marketing: Value Creation and Extraction27:10Discussion on Value Creation and Extraction30:13The Middle Ground: Value Realization34:41The Importance of User Experience35:15Undervaluing the User Experience35:51The Impact of Experience on Retention36:19Challenges in Building Relationships37:37The Friction of Relationship-Based Interactions39:16The Importance of Clear Communication and Expectations40:16The Qualitative vs Quantitative Approach43:16Creating Value for Users vs Business Impact46:19The Role of Marketing and Product49:45Attention vs Intention52:01Generating Value and Capturing Demand57:39The Disconnect Between Value Creation and Demand01:03:06Moving from Attention to Intention01:10:33Qualifying Leads01:12:30Using Data for Qualification01:13:47Qualification Process01:15:31Differentiating Customer Segments01:18:17Scoring and Qualification01:19:14Defining MQL and SQL01:20:13Refining the Qualification Process01:23:22Sophistication in Scoring01:25:18Not All Revenue is Good Revenue01:26:16Saying No to Customers01:28:48Customer Margin01:31:20Closing Remarks and PlugsFollow Rabah on X or LinkedInFollow Aaron on X or LinkedInFollow Chase on X or LinkedInFollow Growth Vault on X

December 18, 2023Episode 354 min

S2 E3: The Gap Between Strategy & Execution

This week on Growth Vault the conversation begins with a discussion about a weight loss drug called Ozympec and its potential impact on the market. The hosts explore the power of instant results and the need for structure in weekly planning. They emphasize the importance of deadlines, deliverables, and prioritization to move forward effectively. The conversation also highlights the significance of intimacy with data and dashboards, as well as the use of systems and tools to streamline processes. The hosts conclude by discussing the importance of scheduling blocks of time for thinking and reflection. In this conversation, Rabah and Chase discuss the importance of bridging the gap between strategy and execution, focusing on systemic success rather than being right or wrong, and building an investment portfolio of content. They also explore the balance between being a strategist and an action-taker, the value of delegation and empowerment, and the challenges of transitioning from an individual contributor role to an executive leadership role. Additionally, they emphasize the importance of systems and processes, using deliverables as data points, and introduce Assembly. Marketing as a tool for content distribution. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the power of measurement and constraints in driving creativity and success.00:00Introduction and Excitement01:19Discussion on the Weight Loss Drug Ozympec03:09Potential Impact on Marketing Budgets04:56Never Bet Against Vice06:08The Power of Instant Results07:09The Importance of Time to Value10:30Concerns about Laziness and Quick Fixes12:40The Need for Structure in Weekly Planning16:46Ideal Week Structure19:54Realistic Week Structure23:44Importance of Deadlines and Deliverables25:14Intimacy with Data and Dashboards30:30Grounding in Deliverables and Prioritization34:47Importance of Systems and Tools37:17Etiquette and Onboarding for Systems38:01Scheduling Blocks for Thinking Time38:30Bridging the Gap between Strategy and Execution39:26Focusing on Systemic Success40:24Building an Investment Portfolio of Content41:03Revisiting the Topic of Placing Bets41:46Balancing Between Strategy and Action42:44The Value of Delegation and Empowerment43:54Transitioning from an IC Role to an Executive Leadership Role46:24The Importance of Systems and Processes47:49Using Deliverables as Data Points48:56Assembly.Marketing: A Tool for Content Distribution52:56The Power of Measurement and ConstraintsFollow Rabah on X or LinkedInFollow Aaron on X or LinkedInFollow Chase on X or LinkedInFollow Growth Vault on X

December 11, 2023Episode 252 min

S2 E2: Optimize Closest To The Money

In Season 2, Episode 2 of Growth Vault join Aaron, Rabah, and Chase as they discuss what to do when nothing is working in marketing. They emphasize the importance of optimizing closest to the money, focusing on the steps in the funnel that have the biggest impact on revenue. They also discuss the distinction between seasonal and structural challenges and the need to reevaluate and recalibrate marketing strategies when faced with structural issues. Additionally, they highlight the value of synthesizing quantitative and qualitative data and the importance of talking to customers to understand their needs and preferences. The conversation covers various topics related to marketing and product, optimizing closest to the money, and building relationships.00:00Introduction and Setting the Stage02:21Optimizing Closest to the Money08:07Structural vs. Seasonal Challenges17:21What to Do When Nothing Is Working33:40Synthesizing Quantitative and Qualitative Data37:48Marketing and Product39:13Optimizing Closeness to the Money40:03Building Relationships and Meeting in Person41:14Tool of the Week: Jamelius43:21Growth Nugget: It's Okay to Say I Don't Know52:40Updates and AnnouncementsFollow Rabah on X or LinkedInFollow Aaron on X or LinkedInFollow Chase on X or LinkedInFollow Growth Vault on X

December 4, 2023Episode 158 min

S2 E1: Setting Goals: you need to be really really CLEAR

In Season 2, Episode 1 of the GV podcast, join hosts Rabah Rahil, Chase Mohseni, and Aaron Orendorff for a deep dive into the nuanced world of leadership and goal-setting. This thought-provoking episode unpacks the art of setting clear, measurable goals, and the common traps leaders fall into with vague targets. The hosts debate the role of finance and legal in strategic planning, where Rabah suggests a more distant approach while Chase underscores the importance of cooperation for informed decisions. Through personal anecdotes, product highlights like Arc NAV and Shopify's 3D rendering, and candid discussions on company growth strategies, the hosts explore the intricacies of building and optimizing businesses for long-term success. The episode also features insights on industry giants like Amazon and Shopify and ponders the impact of new entrants like Klavio on the e-commerce landscape. Whether it's discussing 'builders' vs. 'optimizers', the efficacy of OKRs, or navigating talent management, this episode offers listeners a comprehensive understanding of business strategies intertwined with philosophical insights on leadership. With varied perspectives and a commitment to personal and professional growth, the episode concludes with the hosts' experiences and advice on pursuing meaningful action over perfection. Tune in for an episode that promises not just to inform but to inspire action and reflection.00:00 Klaviyo's IPO06:09 Rumors about Amazon's potential e-commerce avenues.09:17 Positive signs in stock market; cautious about Amazon.11:05 E-commerce opportunity outweighs challenges, crumbs are insignificant.15:23 Need for singular goal to drive progress.17:10 Measurements guide but not always dictate decisions.21:01 Summary: Focus on revenue growth and profitability constraints.25:24 Finance is essential but should not lead.27:34 Focus on generating value, not just metrics.31:39 Setting goals may not help align daily actions.33:38 Discussing OKRs and the importance of focus.35:53 Measurement matters, but focus and clarity essential.41:01 Balancing pushing and giving people freedom.42:27 Bad work experience feels ten times worse.48:29 Teaching team to build systems for success.51:31 In-person connections are important for success.53:24 Develop thick skin, accept criticism, spread love.57:23 Appreciation for listeners, seeking input, value for all.Follow Rabah on X or LinkedInFollow Aaron on X or LinkedInFollow Chase on X or LinkedInFollow Growth Vault on X

September 20, 2023Episode 141 hr 0 min

S1E14 - Brand Matters: Here is Why

Welcome to another episode of the Growth Vault, an inside look at building wonderful marketing that moves the needle for early-stage startups coming with a focus on B2B SaaS.Hosted by Rabah Rabah (Marketing Advisor) & Chase Mohseni (CMO @ Heatmap.com) - you'll get an inside look at how they believe marketing teams can genuinely move the needle and stand out from the crowd.What started out as a conversation over lunch where they mused, "We should have recorded this." Has now been brought to you as a free-flowing conversation about the frameworks and heuristics they've used to build special businesses.In Episode 14, friend of the show, Aaron Orendorff (Head of Marketing @ Recart) What makes brand workWhy you need to invest in brandWhat will differentiate your brandAnd more!Enjoy!Follow Rabah, Chase, and Aaron Follow Growth VaultShare the episode with your friends and let us know what you think!

September 11, 2023Episode 1343 min

S1E13 - Be different or die

Welcome to another episode of the Growth Vault, an inside look at building wonderful marketing that moves the needle for early-stage startups coming with a focus on B2B SaaS.Hosted by Rabah Rabah (Chief Evangelist @ Triple Whale) & Chase Mohseni (CMO @ Heatmap.com) - you'll get an inside look at how they believe marketing teams can genuinely move the needle and stand out from the crowd.What started out as a conversation over lunch where they mused, "We should have recorded this." Has now been brought to you as a free-flowing conversation about the frameworks and heuristics they've used to build special businesses.In Episode 13, Chase is joined by a Guest, Darwish Gani (Co-Founder @ Pangea & Open Border) and they dive into:- Why Brand Hold Co's are hard to scale.- Why focusing on 1 brand can bring you more value than you think.- How international DTC sales is an unlock most brands don't consider.- What the transition from brand to SaaS has been like.And more!Enjoy!Follow Rabah 👉 https://twitter.com/rabahrahilFollow Chase 👉 https://twitter.com/ImChaseMohseniFollow Darwish 👉 https://twitter.com/dargandhi123Share the episode with your friends and let us know what you think!

August 31, 2023Episode 121 hr 6 min

S1E12 - Hiring and Culture oh my!

Welcome to another episode of the Growth Vault, an inside look at building wonderful marketing that moves the needle for early-stage startups coming with a focus on B2B SaaS.Hosted by Rabah Rabah (Chief Evangelist @ Triple Whale) & Chase Mohseni (CMO @ Heatmap.com) - you'll get an inside look at how they believe marketing teams can genuinely move the needle and stand out from the crowd.What started out as a conversation over lunch where they mused, "We should have recorded this." Has now been brought to you as a free-flowing conversation about the frameworks and heuristics they've used to build special businesses.In Episode 12, they dive into:How to hireWhat we look for when we hireIf you're a job seeker how reverse engineer the job searchHow to build a culture of excellence that is easy to understandWhy shielding your team from outside influences is incredibly importantAnd more!Enjoy!Follow Rabah 👉 https://twitter.com/rabahrahilFollow Chase 👉 https://twitter.com/ImChaseMohseniFollow Growth Vault 👉 https://twitter.com/thegrowthvaultShare the episode with your friends and let us know what you think!