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Interledger Foundation presents The FUTURE|MONEY (F|M) Podcast . Future Money is a podcast exploring the evolving intersections of technology, finance, and culture, because finance touches every industry and every life. At its core Future Money is about self-sovereignty and empowerment: reimagining how people, especially those in underserved communities and those who are underbanked or unbanked, access, manage, and grow their financial lives. Each episode engages founders, creatives, innovators, and thought leaders in conversations that bridge their past experiences, their present work, and their visions for the future of their industries and the world at large. Follow us on Castopod for notifications on the latest episode. You can also subscribe to Future Money on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or the podcast app of your choice.

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May 4, 2026Episode 423 min

Arts as Civic Infrastructure: Kristina Newman-Scott on Cultivating Equitable Communities

🎧 New Episode of The Future Money Podcast On this Future Money Podcast episode, Kokayi sits down with Kristina Newman-Scott, the Knight Foundation’s Vice President of Arts. Our conversation explores Kristina’s dedication to fostering equitable communities through artistic expression. In her role at the Knight Foundation, she develops ambitious programs that frame the arts as vital civic infrastructure and a driver for inclusive, thriving neighborhoods. 🎙️ Tune in now and be part of the conversation. You can find all of our previous episodes here. #FutureMoney #Interledger #OpenFinance The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed! Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of innovators and stay connected to the ideas shaping the future. Follow the link to listen and subscribe to the Interledger Salon today! Stay up to date with new episodes by following us on Castopod, or subscribe to Future Money on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Theme Music: Season 2: “Flow States” by Kokayi Walker Season 1 (Episodes 0–21): “Summer Instrumental” by NazAlakai, from the Tribe of Noise — Tribeofnoise.com The Future | Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation and licensed to the public under a Creative Commons CC BY 4.0 License.

February 5, 2026Episode 329 min

From Casual Hang to Cultural Movement and Why Inclusion Matters: Modi Oyewole, Founder of Swang

🎧 New Episode of The Future Money Podcast On this episode of The Future Money Podcast, Kokayi interviews Modi Oyewole, founder of Swang. An organization that was created out of what was a casual driving range hang and has since developed into a cultural movement in Los Angeles. Modi talks about being a community builder and why inclusion matters. 🎙️ Tune in now and be part of the conversation. You can find all of our previous episodes here. #FutureMoney #Interledger #OpenFinance The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed! Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of innovators and stay connected to the ideas shaping the future. Follow the link to listen and subscribe to the Interledger Salon today! Stay up to date with new episodes by following us on Castopod, or subscribe to Future Money on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Theme Music: Season 2: “Flow States” by Kokayi Walker Season 1 (Episodes 0–21): “Summer Instrumental” by NazAlakai, from the Tribe of Noise — Tribeofnoise.com The Future | Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation and licensed to the public under a Creative Commons CC BY 4.0 License.

December 4, 2025Episode 219 min

Voices from the Interledger Summit 2025

🎧 New Episode of The Future Money Podcast On this episode of The Future Money Podcast, host Kokayi traveled to Mexico City for the Interledger Summit. Here, he had the opportunity to catch up with some of our panelists, workshop conveners, and summit participants to talk about what financial inclusion means globally. A special thanks to our guests: Afua Bruce Amy Sample Ward Bowie State Tomisin Laniyi Faefe Ahworegba Emmanuel Osuntuyi Hugo Gutierrez Maria Francis Mijan Celithio-Biaz Nandini Harihareswara Sheena Allen Sophia Callender Dr. Wilneida Negron If you missed this year’s Interledger Summit, visit our YouTube Page and watch the livestreams of Day 1 and Day 2 here. 🎙️ Tune in now and be part of the conversation. You can find all of our previous episodes here. #FutureMoney #Interledger #OpenFinance The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed! Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of innovators and stay connected to the ideas shaping the future. Follow the link to listen and subscribe to the Interledger Salon today! Stay up to date with new episodes by following us on Castopod, or subscribe to Future Money on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Theme Music: Season 2: “Flow States” by Kokayi Walker Season 1 (Episodes 0–21): “Summer Instrumental” by NazAlakai, from the Tribe of Noise — Tribeofnoise.com The Future | Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation and licensed to the public under a Creative Commons CC BY 4.0 License.

October 30, 2025Episode 128 min

From big tech to community education: Reimagining how money moves

🎧 New Episode of The Future Money Podcast On this episode of The Future Money Podcast, host Kokayi talks to Casey Ariel, Founder & CEO of Blaze Group, about her path from structuring multi-billion-dollar credit facilities for major tech corporations to creating a fintech education and training platform transforming how money moves through communities. Casey is currently working with the Interledger Foundation as a Strategic Lead to expand Interledger’s reach across financial institutions, colleges, and fintech communities concentrated in underbanked regions. To learn more about Casey Ariel and her activities, follow her website: https://www.blazegroup.io/ and https://www.iamcaseyariel.com/ 🎙️ Tune in now and be part of the conversation. You can find all of our previous episodes here. or Stay up to date with new episodes by following us on Castopod, or subscribe to Future Money on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. #FutureMoney #Interledger #OpenFinance The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed! Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of innovators and stay connected to the ideas shaping the future. Follow the link to listen and subscribe to the Interledger Salon today! Stay up to date with new episodes by following us on Castopod, or subscribe to Future Money on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Theme Music: Season 2: “Flow States” by Kokayi Walker Season 1 (Episodes 0–21): “Summer Instrumental” by NazAlakai, from the Tribe of Noise — Tribeofnoise.com The Future | Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation and licensed to the public under a Creative Commons CC BY 4.0 License.

September 4, 2025Episode 2040 min

Passing on the torch

In this episode of The Future Money Podcast, presented by the Interledger Foundation, host Lawil Karama announces the new host, Kokayi Issa, a longtime community member and former ambassador for Grant for the Web. He discusses his journey into digital financial inclusion and his work with various innovative projects, including designing the Future Money Grant Program. The conversation touches on the importance of inclusive design in financial services and the need to consider cultural nuances when creating technology. As Kokayi takes over as host, he aims to continue fostering meaningful discussions about the future of digital finance while bringing fresh perspectives and voices to the podcast. The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed! Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of innovators and stay connected to the ideas shaping the future. Follow the link to listen and subscribe to the Interledger Salon today! Stay up to date with new episodes by following us on Castopod, or subscribe to Future Money on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Theme Music: Season 2: “Flow States” by Kokayi Walker Season 1 (Episodes 0–21): “Summer Instrumental” by NazAlakai, from the Tribe of Noise — Tribeofnoise.com The Future | Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation and licensed to the public under a Creative Commons CC BY 4.0 License.

July 15, 2025Episode 1941 min

In Conversation with ILF Grantee and Community Member Adam Waring

On this episode of The Future Money Podcast, hosts Ayesha Ware and Chris Lawrence are in conversation with ILF Grantee and community member Adam Waring. Back in March, Adam announced that gFam, an awesome storytelling platform where creators earn tips and web monetization micro-payments, was shutting down. We had an insightful discussion with Adam on why that decision was made, his thoughts on Web Monetization, and what his next moves might be. The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed! Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of innovators and stay connected to the ideas shaping the future. Follow the link to listen and subscribe to the Interledger Salon today! Stay up to date with new episodes by following us on Castopod, or subscribe to Future Money on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Theme Music: Season 2: “Flow States” by Kokayi Walker Season 1 (Episodes 0–21): “Summer Instrumental” by NazAlakai, from the Tribe of Noise — Tribeofnoise.com The Future | Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation and licensed to the public under a Creative Commons CC BY 4.0 License.

March 27, 2025Episode 1834 min

Indigenomics and the Digital Future: A Conversation with Carol Anne Hilton

In this episode of The Future Money Podcast presented by The Interledger Foundation, host Lawil Karama interviews Carol Ann Hilton, CEO of the Indigenomics Institute and a leader in Indigenous economics. We discuss her book “Indigenomics: Taking a Seat at the Economic Table” and its emphasis on incorporating Indigenous perspectives into global economic frameworks. Hilton explores economic justice, sustainable business practices, and the significance of self-governance. The conversation showcases successful Indigenous business models and examines how digital financial inclusion impacts Indigenous communities. While the Indigenous economy is surging, full Indigenous economic participation remains limited. Hilton advocates for combining traditional knowledge with modern technologies such as AI and blockchain to advance economic and technological development. In this conversation, we are led towards the publication of her second book, “The Rise of Indigenous Economic Power.” Where racist practices such as Canada’s Indian Act thwarted Indigenous economic progress, the book deconstructs these historic and systemic barriers and presents an ethical response. To learn more about Carol Ann Hilton, please visit her website. Her books include “Indigenomics: Taking a Seat at the Economic Table” and her upcoming work “The Rise of Indigenous Economic Power”, which is now available for pre-order and ships after April 12th, 2025. The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed! Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of innovators and stay connected to the ideas shaping the future. Follow the link to listen and subscribe to the Interledger Salon today! Stay up to date with new episodes by following us on Castopod, or subscribe to Future Money on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Theme Music: Season 2: “Flow States” by Kokayi Walker Season 1 (Episodes 0–21): “Summer Instrumental” by NazAlakai, from the Tribe of Noise — Tribeofnoise.com The Future | Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation and licensed to the public under a Creative Commons CC BY 4.0 License.

February 27, 2025Episode 1757 min

Empowerment through design: Kumquat’s approach to Financial Inclusion.

Welcome to the Future Money Podcast. In this episode, host Lawil Karama speaks with Larissa Lamporsad and Kayee Au, co-founders of Kumquat, a product design and user strategy consultancy based in South Africa with global reach. They share their journeys and discuss how trust, simplicity, and dignity in designing financial services shape their work at Kumquat. The discussion explores the importance of cultural relevance and ethical solutions, highlighting how thoughtful design drives innovation and meaningful change in today’s digital finance landscape. To learn more about Kumquat, please visit their website or reach out to Kayee Au or Laurisha Rampersad. The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed! Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of innovators and stay connected to the ideas shaping the future. Follow the link to listen and subscribe to the Interledger Salon today! Stay up to date with new episodes by following us on Castopod, or subscribe to Future Money on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Theme Music: Season 2: “Flow States” by Kokayi Walker Season 1 (Episodes 0–21): “Summer Instrumental” by NazAlakai, from the Tribe of Noise — Tribeofnoise.com The Future | Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation and licensed to the public under a Creative Commons CC BY 4.0 License.

January 30, 2025Episode 1637 min

From Engineering to Digital Financial Inclusion

In this episode of the Future|Money Podcast, we sit down with Santosh Viswanatham, a seasoned engineer and open-source advocate from Hyderabad, India. We explore Santosh’s personal journey, the impact of digital financial inclusion in India, and his active role in the open-source movement, particularly in web monetization and financial technology. Santosh shares his firsthand experience of how India’s Unified Payments Interface (UPI) revolutionized the financial landscape, bringing millions into the banking system and enabling seamless digital transactions. The conversation leads us to the potential of web monetization, challenges in adopting new financial technologies, and examine how open-source collaboration can create a more equitable digital economy, drive innovation, and shape future financial systems. This episode was recorded on April 4th, 2024. The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed! Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of innovators and stay connected to the ideas shaping the future. Follow the link to listen and subscribe to the Interledger Salon today! Stay up to date with new episodes by following us on Castopod, or subscribe to Future Money on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Theme Music: Season 2: “Flow States” by Kokayi Walker Season 1 (Episodes 0–21): “Summer Instrumental” by NazAlakai, from the Tribe of Noise — Tribeofnoise.com The Future | Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation and licensed to the public under a Creative Commons CC BY 4.0 License.

December 19, 2024Episode 1532 min

Looking back, Moving forward

In this special episode of the Future Money Podcast, we look back at a year off digital financial inclusion Through curated highlights from guest conversations. We explore the evolving landscape of digital transactions, the role of food in community building, and artists’ unique perspectives on value, universal payment systems, and innovative approaches to creating a more inclusive financial future. Join us as we revisit the moments that sparked meaningful discussions and highlighted remarkable progress in narrowing the financial gap. Check out the full conversations featured in this episode, listed below! Mia Wright Ross - Loose Change Subhashish Panigrahi - Bring Down A Mountain Stefan Thomas, Evan Schwartz - Reimagine global payments with the creators of the Interledger Dr. Andrew Mangle - Taking the train to Digital Financial Inclusion Lena Ghaninejad - Liminal Matter Uchi Uchibeke - Redefining financial inclusion with Chimoney Esther Mwema - Sikhula Sonke: Living Archives of Afrofuturist Village Banking Xiaoji Song - Parallel Society Felipe Brugues, Ana Rodriguez, and Juan Carlos Leon - Re/Simulate Joran Greef - Architecture of Trust Carlijn Kingma - Waterworks of Money The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed! Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of innovators and stay connected to the ideas shaping the future. Follow the link to listen and subscribe to the Interledger Salon today! Stay up to date with new episodes by following us on Castopod, or subscribe to Future Money on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Theme Music: Season 2: “Flow States” by Kokayi Walker Season 1 (Episodes 0–21): “Summer Instrumental” by NazAlakai, from the Tribe of Noise — Tribeofnoise.com The Future | Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation and licensed to the public under a Creative Commons CC BY 4.0 License.