
How to Forecast Your AI Token Costs with Jason Brisbane and Tanvi Lal
In this episode of FP&A Unlocked, host Paul Barnhurst sits down with Jason Brisbane and Tanvi Lal to discuss the economics of generative AI, why traditional SaaS metrics fall short, and how finance teams can forecast AI costs. They explore token pricing, AI budgeting, and the role FP&A can play in managing AI investments. Jason Brisbane is the CEO and Founder of FinHelm, with over 15 years of experience in FP&A technology. He developed the UA-FP&A methodology and Uncertainty Exposure Score to improve forecast reliability. Tanvi Lal is an investor at Intuit Ventures, focused on AI and fintech. Formerly at Deloitte, she is also the co-founder of VC Unleashed and specializes in AI economics and usage-based pricing. Expect to Learn: How AI token pricing affects project costs and profitability. Why traditional SaaS metrics don't fully capture AI economics. How to forecast AI spending using scenarios and cost ranges. Why labor and orchestration costs often exceed token costs. How FP&A teams can guide AI adoption and investment decisions. Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode: “Your most engaged customer is actually your least profitable with AI unit economics.” - Tanvi Lal “We have to train our brains to not look at variance as a bad thing.” - Jason Brisbane Jason and Tanvi explain why AI budgeting requires more than tracking token usage. They discuss project complexity, human involvement, and changing model costs. They also highlight how FP&A professionals can improve forecasting, measure uncertainty, and collaborate with business teams to manage AI spending effectively. Follow Jason: Website: https://finhelm.ai/ AFP Article: https://www.financialprofessionals.org/training-resources/resources/articles/Details/your-forecast-does-not-have-a-score-it-should LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brisbanejason Follow Tanvi: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlal/ Intuit Ventures: https://intuit.com/ventures VC Unleashed: https://vcunleashed.xyz/ AI Budgeting Calculator: https://ai-budget-calc.vercel.app/ Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review. Earn Your CPE Credit For CPE credit, please go to earmarkcpe.com , listen to the episode, download the app, answer a few questions, and earn your CPE certification. To earn education credits for the FPAC Certificate, take the quiz on Earmark and contact Paul Barnhurst for further details. In Today's Episode: [00:00] - Trailer [07:21] - Understanding AI Token Costs [16:46] - Labor and Orchestration Costs [23:56] - Forecasting AI Project Costs [25:21] - Managing Cost Uncertainty [30:58] - Learning From Forecast Variances [38:59] - How FP&A Can Lead AI Strategy [44:05] - Communicating Forecast Uncertainty [49:29] - AI Budgeting Advice [51:15] - Essential FP&A Skills [56:06] - Closing Remarks & Thanks















