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Jun 2026

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Money doesn't have to be intimidating. The Financially Incorrect Podcast is a fun and informative way to learn about personal finance. Host Barrack Bukusi debunks money myths and reveals the truth behind common misconceptions. Join him with a different guest every week as he helps you achieve your financial goals.

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June 16, 20261 hr 18 min

From Timber Trader to Luxury Property Developer | Derrick Kayobyo| Uganda Edition

Most people would have quit after losing everything. Derrick Kayobyo lost hundreds of millions of shillings to fraudsters. His workshop was burned down. Businesses collapsed. Deals went wrong. Yet those setbacks became the foundation for one of Uganda's fastest-growing real estate companies. In this episode of Financially Incorrect Uganda edition, Derrick shares how he went from selling timber and manufacturing doors to building a real estate portfolio worth over $5 million through Kayo properties. He breaks down the realities of Uganda's property market, the opportunities many investors overlook, how Airbnb helped accelerate his growth, and the painful lessons that came from losing 600M UGX in a land scam. This is a conversation about resilience, calculated risk, building businesses from the ground up, and what it really takes to create wealth in African real estate.Whether you're interested in real estate, entrepreneurship, investing, or building wealth in Africa, this conversation offers practical lessons from someone who has experienced both spectacular wins and painful losses.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Tagore Living Apartment - https://share.google/o2fVbZApFQ1tGWd7nFor all your production needs in Uganda: Contact: +256705098317 / +256786312218 | https://www.cinemaug.com/Access all our links in one place: ⁠https://lnk.bio/Financially_IncFor all your production needs in Uganda: Contact: 0705098317 / 0786312218 | https://www.cinemaug.com/💹 Ready to start trading?🔍 Who is FXPesa: ⁠https://shorturl.at/rWFqC🎓 Learn how to trade: ⁠https://shorturl.at/xR2Ye⁠📊 Try a demo account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/izDMc⁠💸 Open a live account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/Od2ux---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Episode Chapters 00:00 Introduction & Uganda Edition Housekeeping03:00 Meet Derrick Kayobyo05:11 Uganda's Real Estate Opportunity10:06 Growing Up In A Family Of 1015:10 The Fake Pastor Cement Scam19:05 Building A Woodwork Business23:00 Running Business Through University29:00 Competitors Burned Down My Workshop31:14 Rebuilding Through Partnerships33:06 Leaving For South Africa34:08 Discovering Airbnb In Uganda36:11 Land Flipping For Profit37:50 Why He Doesn't Leave Money Idle39:37 Losing 600M UGX To Land Fraud47:24 Building His First House49:35 Scaling A Construction Company54:00 Using Bank Financing To Grow59:09 Inside Kayo Properties1:03:06 Proudest Achievement1:07:50 Building A $5M Portfolio1:09:02 The Timber Business Advantage1:09:49 How He Manages Money Today1:11:02 Goals For 20261:12:23 Final Reflections1:14:08 Kayo Properties & Closing Remarks

June 15, 20261 hr 31 min

How Nyawira Muraguri Built Wealth Before Age 35

"You should stay in school and work hard." That's the advice many people receive. Nyawira Muraguri did that. But she also worked in her parents' business from the age of nine, negotiated aggressively throughout her career, used side hustles to clear debt, bought land with loans, stayed at home longer than most of her peers, and benefited from a support system that gave her room to take bigger risks.In this episode of Financially Incorrect, Nyawira opens up about the financial realities behind her career journey, from earning KSh 10,000 in her first job to leading communications and marketing initiatives at Samsung Electronics. She shares why salary negotiation became one of her biggest wealth-building tools, how she made and lost money through side hustles, the lessons she learned from property investing, and why COVID forced her to completely rethink her relationship with money.She conversation also explores a topic many people avoid discussing honestly: the difference between being self-made and being supported.Alongside the money conversation, Nyawira gives her perspective on AI-powered devices, the future of smartphones, privacy concerns, and how technology is changing the way we live and work.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Access all our links in one place: ⁠https://lnk.bio/Financially_Inc💹 Ready to start trading?🔍 Who is FXPesa: ⁠https://shorturl.at/rWFqC🎓 Learn how to trade: ⁠https://shorturl.at/xR2Ye⁠📊 Try a demo account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/izDMc⁠💸 Open a live account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/Od2ux---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Episode Chapters00:00 Introduction01:25 The Most Money She's Ever Imagined Making03:58 "The Smartphone Era Is Over"05:47 AI Devices, Meta Glasses & The Future07:18 Working For Her Parents At Age 909:44 Financial Lessons She Wishes She Learned Earlier10:47 The First Thing She Bought With Her Own Money13:33 Daystar University & Financial Independence18:32 Her First Job And KSh 10,000 Salary21:00 Government Internships And PR Experience24:51 Breaking Into PR Agencies28:10 The Salary Negotiation Formula32:42 Climbing The PR Career Ladder38:16 Side Hustles That Made Serious Money41:43 Lifestyle Inflation And Financial Reality49:17 How COVID Changed Her Relationship With Money51:30 Buying Land And Flipping Property54:10 Surviving Career Uncertainty57:00 The Financial Cushion Most People Ignore01:08:20 Buying A Home Through A Mortgage01:11:15 Joining Samsung Electronics01:16:14 AI, Privacy And Samsung Knox01:23:19 Her Definition Of Financial Freedom01:26:00 Learning Global Investing And Estate Planning01:27:14 Happiest Money Memory01:29:05 Samsung S26 And Final Thoughts

June 9, 20262 hr 14 min

How Pius Muchiri Built an Investment leader- Nabo Capital

There is a perception amongst many that financial freedom is about earning more money. Pius Muchiri believes it's about reaching a point where your investments can sustain your lifestyle even if your salary stops tomorrow.In this episode of Financially Incorrect Business Edition, Barrack sits down with Pius Muchiri, CFA and Managing Director of Nabo Capital, to unpack a career spanning accounting, investment management, private equity, public markets, and the building of one of Kenya's leading fund management firms.He reflects on the childhood experience that shaped his relationship with money after witnessing financial uncertainty at a young age. That experience would go on to influence his approach to investing, risk management, and his belief that financial independence should be the ultimate goal for every investor. The conversation traces his journey from accounting to investment management, his years at Centum Investments, where he helped execute some of East Africa's most notable investment transactions, and the lessons learned from building Nabo Capital from the ground up.We also explore the future of investing in Africa, why diversification beyond your home market matters, the role of money market funds in wealth preservation, and how technology is helping democratize access to investment opportunities.A major highlight of the conversation is the discussion around TRIFIC REIT, a real estate investment trust designed to give investors access to institutional-grade real estate through a more accessible structure. Pius breaks down how the vehicle works, the thinking behind creating it, the role of liquidity in real estate investing, and why dollar-denominated income opportunities are attracting growing interest from investors seeking diversification and long-term wealth creation..---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Access all our links in one place: ⁠https://lnk.bio/Financially_Inc💹 Ready to start trading?🔍 Who is FXPesa: ⁠https://shorturl.at/rWFqC🎓 Learn how to trade: ⁠https://shorturl.at/xR2Ye⁠📊 Try a demo account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/izDMc⁠💸 Open a live account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/Od2ux---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Episode Chapters00:00 Introduction02:14 Growing Up Around Money08:37 Watching His Family Face Financial Hardship14:26 The Promise He Made At 11 Years Old20:11 What Financial Independence Really Means26:48 Why He Started In Accounting33:19 The Limitation Of Support Functions38:52 Leaving Accounting For Investments45:31 Joining Centum Investments52:44 Why Accounting Creates Better Investors58:21 Building The Coca-Cola Investment Case01:06:08 Finding Undervalued Opportunities In Africa01:13:42 Investing Beyond Kenya01:20:15 Growing Centum From KSh 6B To KSh 30B01:27:56 Why Nabo Capital Was Created01:35:02 The Entrepreneurial Learning Curve01:41:58 Building Trust In Fund Management01:47:40 Money Market Funds Explained01:54:21 Are Money Market Funds Safer Than Banks?01:59:43 The Trific REIT Opportunity02:04:56 The Future Of Investing In Kenya02:07:48 What Financial Freedom Looks Like02:09:15 Final Thoughts

June 5, 20261 hr 58 min

The Story Behind Too Early For Birds from The Creative Powerhouse | Gathoni Kimuyu

For years, Queen Gathoni Kimuyu was helping shape some of Kenya's most recognizable television productions while quietly carrying battles most people never saw.Before becoming an award-winning producer, writer, activist and storyteller, she grew up in poverty, became a young wife, survived an abusive marriage, raised a child through financial uncertainty and spent years trying to build a sustainable career in an industry that celebrates talent but rarely pays for it.In this episode of Financially Incorrect, Gathoni opens up about the realities behind Kenya's creative economy. From earning KSh 10,000 as a receptionist to writing for Machachari, producing sold-out theatre shows, losing millions on productions, surviving long payment delays and creating Free Me, a deeply personal play based on her own experience with gender-based violence.This is a conversation about money, resilience, self-worth, entrepreneurship, storytelling and what it really takes to build a life after survival mode.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Access all our links in one place: ⁠https://lnk.bio/Financially_Inc💹 Ready to start trading?🔍 Who is FXPesa: ⁠https://shorturl.at/rWFqC🎓 Learn how to trade: ⁠https://shorturl.at/xR2Ye⁠📊 Try a demo account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/izDMc⁠💸 Open a live account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/Od2ux---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Episode Chapters00:00 Introduction02:20 Growing Up Poor & Early Money Lessons06:40 Becoming Money Conscious at 1609:10 Her First Salary: KSh 10,00012:39 Marriage, Money & Responsibility17:37 The First Time She Was Hit19:14 Leaving Corporate for Television22:28 Hospital Bills & Financial Survival25:14 The Car Wash Business30:37 Moving Back Home After Divorce36:13 The Relationship That Changed Her Perspective39:27 How Much Kenyan TV Writers Earn44:29 Showmax, Budgets & Kenyan Storytelling49:22 Rebuilding Financial Stability52:18 Recovering From Divorce55:28 Producing, Influencing & Buying Her First Car01:02:55 Building Twi Forbuzz01:15:33 The Real Cost of Theatre Production01:22:13 Losing KSh 3 Million01:30:24 Why Quality Is Expensive01:33:13 Pandemic Struggles & Financial Recovery01:44:17 The Story Behind Free Me01:48:58 Creative Residencies & Growth01:50:52 What Financial Success Means Today01:52:03 Grants, Sponsorships & Survival01:54:48 Final Reflections

June 3, 202654 min

How Brian Kiriba Built Handas Jaba Juice Into a 50,000-Unit-a-Month

Brian Kiriba shares the story behind building Jaba Juice from scratch, growing it into a business that now moves tens of thousands of units every month. In this episode of Financially Incorrect Business Edition, he discusses his early entrepreneurial ventures in Pakistan and the United States, the failure of his immigration startup, losing money after returning to Kenya, and his unsuccessful attempt to break into the alcohol industry.He explains how a chance encounter with khat (jaba) inspired the idea for a bottled beverage, the months of experimentation that followed, the challenges of manufacturing, hiring, distribution, and how he eventually found product-market fit by targeting an entirely different customer segment than traditional chewers.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Access all our links in one place: ⁠⁠https://lnk.bio/Financially_Inc⁠💹 Ready to start trading?🔍 Who is FXPesa: ⁠⁠https://shorturl.at/rWFqC⁠🎓 Learn how to trade: ⁠⁠https://shorturl.at/xR2Ye⁠⁠📊 Try a demo account: ⁠⁠https://shorturl.at/izDMc⁠⁠💸 Open a live account: ⁠⁠https://shorturl.at/Od2ux⁠---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Episode Time Stamps00:00 Introduction06:16 Early Entrepreneurial Lessons10:52 Immigration Startup in the U.S.13:16 Returning to Kenya & Partying Lifestyle17:10 Alcohol Business & Regulatory Challenges21:20 Discovering the Jaba Opportunity27:38 Building the First Jaba Juice Product30:40 Early Operations & Scaling Struggles36:51 Hiring an Accountant & Professionalizing the Business41:36 Key Drivers of Growth45:06 Finding the Right Target Market47:04 Events & Distribution Strategy51:17 Funding, Growth & Business Today53:29 Closing Remarks

May 29, 20261 hr 58 min

The Kenyan Who Buys Cars for Billionaires | Earl Karanja

Most people see cars as liabilities. Earl Karanja sees them as alternative assets with global demand, cultural value, and appreciating long-term upside.Before brokering million-dollar Bugattis and rare Ferraris to collectors across Europe, Dubai, and New Zealand, Earl was a Kenyan kid raised in a strict teacher-led household where discipline, education, and financial restraint shaped everything. His first lessons around money came from selling farm produce in the village. Years later, those same principles would help him navigate one of the most exclusive and difficult industries in the world.Earl breaks down the hidden economics of the luxury and collectible car market, from flipping Toyota Prados in Kenya to sourcing hypercars worth millions of dollars for ultra-high-net-worth clients globally.He explains why certain Japanese cars continue appreciating, why wealthy investors are parking capital in rare analog vehicles, how social media changed the automotive business forever, and why the global collector market rewards patience, rarity, and knowledge over hype.The conversation also dives into the realities of building an African business in a European-dominated market, surviving a €200,000 scam loss, navigating visa barriers, dealing with weak local banking support, and spending nearly five years before the business became sustainably profitable.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Access all our links in one place: ⁠https://lnk.bio/Financially_Inc💹 Ready to start trading?🔍 Who is FXPesa: ⁠https://shorturl.at/rWFqC🎓 Learn how to trade: ⁠https://shorturl.at/xR2Ye⁠📊 Try a demo account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/izDMc⁠💸 Open a live account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/Od2ux---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Episode Chapters00:00 Intro & sponsor mention02:06 Why car investing makes money03:06 How to identify appreciating cars06:04 The Prado flipping business explained13:18 Japanese vs German cars debate21:02 Insurance challenges in Kenya28:33 Earl’s upbringing & money lessons35:43 From engineering to automotive journalism52:13 Starting car sales on Instagram59:32 Africa’s global business barriers01:06:17 How luxury car brokers make money01:10:33 First million-euro car sale01:13:32 Cross-border business & visas01:20:36 Banking and funding struggles01:23:53 The hardest car sale ever01:29:02 When the business finally worked01:34:44 Why rare cars appreciate massively01:41:00 Modern classics & Gen Z demand01:48:02 Being Black in a niche industry01:50:31 Losing €200,000 to fraud01:53:41 Kenya importation frustrations01:57:00 Why cars remain his main investment01:58:30 Final thoughts & outro

May 26, 202621 min

Why African SMEs Stay Underserved | Ethiopis Tafara

Africa does not have a shortage of entrepreneurs. It has a financing problem.In this episode of Financially Incorrect, we sit down with Ethiopis Tafara, Regional Vice President for Africa at the International Finance Corporation (IFC), to unpack one of the biggest economic bottlenecks across the continent: why millions of African businesses remain stuck despite creating the majority of jobs.SMEs account for nearly 80–90% of jobs globally, yet only 25% of African SMEs have access to formal financing. Ethiopis explains the “missing middle” crisis, the dangerous impact of foreign exchange debt on local businesses, and why access to local currency financing could completely reshape entrepreneurship across Africa.We also discuss the IFC’s new $300 million partnership with BOAD, how the M300 initiative plans to electrify 300 million Africans by 2030, why tourism remains Africa’s most underrated economic opportunity, and the uncomfortable realities governments must address if they want businesses to scale sustainably.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Access all our links in one place: ⁠https://lnk.bio/Financially_Inc💹 Ready to start trading?🔍 Who is FXPesa: ⁠https://shorturl.at/rWFqC🎓 Learn how to trade: ⁠https://shorturl.at/xR2Ye⁠📊 Try a demo account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/izDMc⁠💸 Open a live account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/Od2ux---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Episode Chapters00:00 Introduction00:37 Africa’s Missing Middle Problem01:32 The M300 Electrification Initiative02:01 Breaking Down the $300M IFC-BOAD Deal04:15 What IFC Looks For Before Investing06:02 Which Businesses Scale Fastest?07:30 Why Tourism Is Africa’s Biggest Opportunity08:34 Why SMEs Struggle to Access Credit09:48 How Africa Can Solve the Financing Gap11:10 What Defines a Missing Middle Business12:13 Youth Employment and Business Growth13:09 What Governments Must Fix First14:45 Vested Interests Blocking Progress18:21 IFC’s Biggest Infrastructure Projects20:03 The Most Important Money Lesson

May 25, 20261 hr 30 min

Family Legacy, Camp Mulla, and the Music Industry reality | Suzzane Gachukia Opembe

For decades, Suzanne Gachukia Opembe sat at the center of Kenya’s creative economy. Producing music, managing artists, negotiating distribution, surviving industry politics and helping shape an entire generation of Kenyan sound.But behind the success stories were delayed payments, collapsing partnerships, broken royalty systems, visa denials, debt pressure and years where even groceries became difficult to afford.In this episode Suzanne opens up about building studios from scratch, landing a $10,000 Pepsi buyout in the 90s, producing artists during Kenya’s CD and cassette boom, managing Camp Mulla during their meteoric rise and witnessing first-hand how corruption and poor systems continue to cripple creators across Africa.She also reflects on marriage, separation, financial independence, family privilege, land investments, failed business ventures, selling property too early and the emotional cost of staying committed to a creative industry that rarely rewards people fairly.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Access all our links in one place: ⁠https://lnk.bio/Financially_Inc💹 Ready to start trading?🔍 Who is FXPesa: ⁠https://shorturl.at/rWFqC🎓 Learn how to trade: ⁠https://shorturl.at/xR2Ye⁠📊 Try a demo account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/izDMc⁠💸 Open a live account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/Od2ux---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Episode Chapters00:00 Introduction01:42 The last thing Suzanne failed at04:26 Her first experiences with money06:14 Family business, farming and Riara’s growth11:26 Lessons from her parents about money15:52 Building studios and producing music21:05 Financial struggles in music production27:04 Music distribution and River Road lessons28:38 Land investments and surviving debt32:36 Marriage, separation and money dynamics40:12 Managing Camp Mulla’s rise48:07 Why Kenyan music struggles financially55:09 Second marriage and financial independence01:01:50 Corruption inside music royalty systems01:09:25 Suzanne’s definition of financial success01:12:13 Her happiest and saddest money moments01:14:17 The financial principle everyone ignores01:16:53 Managing young artists and fame01:23:34 Camp Mulla’s BET nomination setback01:24:08 Why Camp Mulla connected with everyone01:26:24 Clarence Peters and music video evolution01:28:53 Closing thoughts and upcoming projects

May 19, 20261 hr 13 min

From Failed Fashion Business To Med Spa Founder | Milkah Wachira

Most people see skincare as beauty. Milkah Wachira sees it as trust, systems, education, customer psychology and cash flow management under pressure.Before building Skin Reveal Clinic into one of Nairobi’s growing aesthetic and corrective skincare brands, she burned through bad inventory decisions, unstable partnerships, weak financial structures and painful business losses. One failed clothing venture left her with dead stock for years. Another partnership reportedly cost her close to KSh 1 million after funds disappeared without contracts or safeguards in place.Then came the salon business.A bold KSh 5 million setup. Two floors. Aggressive marketing. Rapid traction. But behind the growth were constant HR battles, staff turnover, operational pressure and eventually the reality that scaling beauty businesses is far harder than social media makes it look.In this episode of Financially Incorrect Business Edition, Milkah Wachira breaks down the economics of beauty and aesthetics in Kenya, the cost of building customer trust, why many salons struggle with structure, how COVID forced a strategic pivot into advanced skincare, and why professionalism changed everything in her business.She also speaks candidly about investor money she never recovered, learning financial discipline late, navigating unsecured loans, supplier credit systems, marketing ROI, and the operational realities behind running a medspa in Nairobi CBD.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Access all our links in one place: ⁠https://lnk.bio/Financially_Inc💹 Ready to start trading?🔍 Who is FXPesa: ⁠https://shorturl.at/rWFqC🎓 Learn how to trade: ⁠https://shorturl.at/xR2Ye⁠📊 Try a demo account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/izDMc⁠💸 Open a live account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/Od2ux---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Episode Chapter00:00 Introduction00:28 FXPesa Sponsorship & Uganda Expansion02:42 Splitting Bills, Social Norms & Money Conversations03:55 Childhood Money Lessons06:01 First Job, Motherhood & Spending Habits08:20 Starting A Clothing Business11:47 Overstocking & Inventory Mistakes17:11 Losing KSh 1 Million In A Partnership Scam25:06 Entering The Beauty Industry28:44 Building A High-End Salon Brand32:01 Staff Conflicts & Operational Challenges36:57 COVID-19 & Pivoting Into Med Spa Services40:33 Studying Aesthetics Professionally43:03 Investor Losses & Financial Accountability46:05 Rebuilding The Team & HR Systems52:16 Staff Commissions, KPIs & Contracts59:52 Is The Skincare Business Profitable?01:04:17 The Cost Of Professional Equipment01:06:35 What Success Looks Like Today01:07:43 Best Financial Memory01:09:56 Final Thoughts & Where To Find Skin Reveal Clinic

May 15, 20261 hr 18 min

Royalties, Record Deals and the Cost of Art| Muthaka

Muthaka thought talent would be enough. Then she discovered the business side of music.In this episode the award winning Kenyan singer and songwriter Christine Muthaka opens up about the financial realities behind building a music career in East Africa. From earning 3,000 KES cover gigs at malls and restaurants to signing a restrictive label deal, producing a 600,000+ KES independent album, surviving on tiny royalty payouts and eventually rebuilding her career independently, this is one of the rawest conversations we’ve had about creativity, money and survival.Muthaka breaks down what it actually costs to make music professionally, why many artists stay financially strained despite public success, how record labels can shape or limit creative direction and why publishing and licensing may become the real future for African artists. She also reflects on family support, financial anxiety, budgeting, rejection, leaving Universal Music and redefining success on her own terms.This conversation goes beyond music. It is about ownership, endurance, contracts, self worth and the invisible economics behind every creative career people romanticize online.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Access all our links in one place: ⁠https://lnk.bio/Financially_Inc💹 Ready to start trading?🔍 Who is FXPesa: ⁠https://shorturl.at/rWFqC🎓 Learn how to trade: ⁠https://shorturl.at/xR2Ye⁠📊 Try a demo account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/izDMc⁠💸 Open a live account: ⁠https://shorturl.at/Od2ux---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Episode Chapters00:00 Introduction01:18 The real cost of making music independently02:16 Financially Incorrect channel update04:15 Muthaka’s background and early career06:21 Self reflection and personal growth09:31 Early money lessons from family11:43 Financial anxiety and budgeting mindset13:34 First gigs and earning 3,000 KES16:15 Family support and choosing music17:30 Lessons from Sauti Academy19:14 Singing vs songwriting explained22:21 Why singers and songwriters need each other25:04 Unpaid gigs and early struggles28:28 Transitioning into recording music29:26 Performing artists vs recording artists30:22 Signing with Universal Music34:38 Expectations vs reality of a label deal39:29 Royalty splits and financial realities47:51 Feeling unsupported by the label50:00 Leaving the label and reclaiming control54:06 Winning an award while financially struggling59:09 Rebuilding independently after the label01:06:20 Publishing and licensing opportunities01:11:23 Spending over 600,000 KES on an album01:15:22 What financial success means to Muthaka01:17:21 Final message and album plug

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