Drowning In The Talent Pool

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Drowning in the Talent Pool is the podcast for tech talent-focused executives and managers who are evolving with a rapidly changing marketplace. From exploring the candidate and hiring manager journeys to sharing thoughts on what the future looks like for tech talent across industries, we’re here to help our listeners learn how to swim in this turbulent talent pool.

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January 7, 202541 min

Navigating Career Pathways and Leadership Insights with Andy Ellis

Today I welcome Andy Ellis, partner at Wild Ventures, to discuss career journeys, leadership challenges, and the essence of inclusion in the workspace. Andy shares his unique professional path from his time at Akamai Technologies to the Air Force and beyond, offering insights into leadership and personal development. We also explore the dynamics of hiring for startups versus established companies, the importance of engaging and retaining talent, and strategies for effective management. Additionally, Andy talks about his book, '1 Percent Leadership,' and how it distills essential leadership lessons into practical advice. 00:00 Introduction 00:23 Guest Introduction: Andy Ellis 00:58 Andy's Career Journey 02:09 Life Lessons and Early Jobs 03:42 Family and Financial Lessons 05:52 The Importance of Inclusion 07:00 Writing the Leadership Book 09:13 Leadership and Inclusion Insights 14:43 Interview Tips and Personal Development 20:26 The Role of Interviews: Saying No 20:44 Navigating the Interview Process 21:26 Interviewing Founders vs. Executives 22:20 The Startup Ecosystem and Team Dynamics 23:30 Hiring Executives for Immediate Needs 24:37 Challenges in Talent Sourcing and Leadership 30:31 The Importance of Team Alignment 31:35 Developing Future Leaders 35:16 Mismanagement of Expectations 39:05 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Follow us: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sbr2th/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbr2th.techtalent/ Find Out More at SBR2TH: https://www.sbr2th.com/podcast/ Learn More About Andy Ellis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/csoandy/

December 3, 202443 min

How to Navigate Post-Election Economic Shifts and Talent Strategies with Alex Chausovsky

Today I am joined by Alex Chausovsky, Director of Analysis and Consulting at the Bundy Group. The discussion delves into the implications of the post-2024 election landscape on the market, including economic trends, the labor market, and industrial shifts. Alex shares insights on his career journey from market intelligence to economic forecasting and talent strategy, emphasizing the importance of data-driven decision-making in business. The episode also covers strategies for companies to attract and retain talent, the impact of remote work, and the necessity for businesses to adapt to evolving economic conditions. The conversation underscores the importance of treating employees as partners to enhance engagement and retention. 00:00 Introduction 01:52 Alex Chausovsky's Career Journey 07:51 Economic Landscape Post-2024 Election 18:40 Impact of Policies on Business and Labor Market 22:39 Labor Market Challenges in Construction and Agriculture 24:02 The War for Talent: Strategies for Companies 26:01 Navigating the Competitive Landscape for Professionals 26:46 Adapting Hiring Processes for Efficiency 27:48 The Importance of Communication and Transparency 29:38 Remote Work and Workforce Stratification 40:53 Treating Employees as Partners 43:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Follow us: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sbr2th/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbr2th.techtalent/ Find Out More at SBR2TH: https://www.sbr2th.com/podcast/ Learn More About Alex Chausovsky: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexchausovsky/

November 5, 202438 min

Flexibility and Trust: Transitioning Leadership Roles with Norma Tirado-Kellenberger

Today, I sat down and interviewed Norma Tirado-Kellenberger, CHRO of Access Community Health Network. We discuss the unique career transitions Norma has made across multiple C-suite roles, emphasizing the importance of flexibility, trust, and leadership. The conversation delves into how talent management, personal relationships, and fostering a strong organizational culture have influenced her career, exploring the significance of asking the right questions, building trust, aligning team goals, and the emotional connection needed to drive organizational success. 00:00 Introduction 00:54 Norma's Career Journey 03:33 The Importance of Relationships in Leadership 04:40 Leadership and Asking the Right Questions 08:26 Curiosity and Flexibility in Leadership 22:34 Respectful Disagreement and Trust 29:04 The Power of Purpose and Emotional Connection 35:08 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Follow us: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sbr2th/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbr2th.techtalent/ Find Out More at SBR2TH: https://www.sbr2th.com/podcast/ Learn More About Norma: https://www.linkedin.com/in/normatiradokellenberger/

October 29, 202437 min

Aligning Revenue Operations and Company Culture for Sustainable Growth With Steve Busby

Today, I sat down with Steve Busby, founder and managing partner of Slate Point Partners and discussed the critical elements for achieving effective revenue operations in today's evolving market. Steve emphasizes the importance of aligning company culture, processes, and technology with revenue goals. The conversation covers the role of cross-functional communication, the significance of onboarding and employee engagement, and how to overcome challenges in large and small organizations. Steve also shares insights on measuring hard-to-quantify aspects like employee belief in core values and management's role in fostering a customer-centric approach. 00:00 Introduction 00:38 Meet Steve Busby: Founder of Slate Point Partners 00:59 Understanding Revenue Benchmarking 04:44 The Importance of Culture in Revenue Operations 05:25 Aligning Sales, Marketing, and Customer Service 08:37 Challenges in Implementing Revenue Operations 16:57 The Role of Cross-Functional Training 18:23 Revenue Operations in Small vs. Large Companies 21:07 Overcoming Resistance to Change 29:17 Key Indicators for Revenue Operations 34:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Follow us: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sbr2th/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbr2th.techtalent/ Find Out More at SBR2TH: https://www.sbr2th.com/podcast/ Learn More About Steve: linkedin.com/in/steve-busby-8a1a826

October 15, 202435 min

Navigating the AI Frontier: A Conversation with VP of Engineering Alec Lazarescu on the Future of AI and NLP

Today I get to speak with Alec Lazarescu, VP of Engineering with a deep focus on conversational AI and NLP. Alec shares his journey, from stumbling upon conversational AI at a 2016 event to creating a successful meetup group and working on AI-based messaging. We cover the current state and future potential of AI, including its limitations, practical applications, and its profound impact on both job seekers and hiring processes. Alec provides insights into the importance of human oversight in AI applications, the challenges of integrating AI into traditional systems, and the evolving landscape of skills needed to thrive in the AI industry. 00:00 Introduction 00:58 Alec's Journey into Conversational AI 02:59 The Current State of AI in 2024 04:51 AI's Limitations and Human Oversight 05:49 AI in Recruitment and Job Applications 11:53 Challenges and Ethical Considerations in AI Screening 14:00 Skills and Mindset for a Career in AI 24:21 Future of AI and Its Impact on Work 34:11 Personal Insights and Future Plans Follow us: LinkedIn Instagram Find Out More at SBR2TH Learn More About Alec

October 1, 202434 min

Navigating Tech Evolution and Talent Acquisition with Yosef Haas

Today I interviewed Yosef Haas, the Vice President of Product at ShipHero. Haas shares his journey from being a computer programmer in the early 2000s to developing advanced e-commerce and warehouse management systems. We discuss the rapid evolution of technology, specifically the role of AI and its impact on the job market and business operations. Haas also provides insights into effective talent acquisition strategies emphasizing the importance of networking, referrals, and building trust within remote teams. The conversation touches on the changing nature of work and the importance of understanding foundational technology shifts. 00:00 Introduction 00:34 Yosef Haas' Journey to Ship Hero 02:53 Evolution of Technology in E-commerce 04:42 Impact of AI and Future Job Market 06:57 Challenges and Opportunities in Remote Work 29:05 Hiring Strategies and Talent Acquisition 33:02 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Follow us: LinkedIn Instagram Find Out More at SBR2TH Learn More About Yosef Haas

September 17, 202442 min

Growing Through Challenges: Katee LaPoff's Journey in Leadership

Today, I sat down with Katee LaPoff, CTO of Oak View Group. Katee shares her career journey, from humble beginnings in Texas to her current leadership role. She emphasizes the importance of community, introspection, and continuous self-improvement. Katee recounts pivotal moments, including valuable lessons from setbacks and the influential mentorships that helped shape her path. We talk about topics such as talent development, the impact of criticism, and the necessity of evolving with technology. Katee’s story is a testament to resilience, the importance of support systems, and the power of intentional growth. 00:00 Introduction 01:33 Katee LaPoff's Career Journey 03:09 Early Life and Inspirations 04:11 Navigating the Tech Industry 05:36 Embracing Change and Growth 08:09 Challenges and Support Systems 13:04 Reflections on Failure and Success 13:53 Mental Toughness and Resilience 19:02 Career Path and Development 21:08 Moving to Colorado and Early IT Career 22:24 First Job in IT and Rapid Technological Changes 23:44 Climbing the Corporate Ladder 25:27 Facing Professional Challenges and Feedback 27:52 Personal Growth and Leadership Lessons 35:04 Reflecting on Career and Mentorship 37:09 Final Thoughts and Gratitude Follow us: LinkedIn Instagram Find Out More at SBR2TH Learn More About Katee

September 3, 202443 min

Revenue Operations: How the Top 1% Develop Talent - With Stephen Diorio

Today we talk to Stephen Diorio, Executive Vice President Growth Strategy at Green Thread, Managing Director at The Revenue Enablement Institute and Author "Revenue Operations" with profound expertise in revenue enablement and operations. This engaging discussion explores Stephen’s background, the evolving nature of job roles in the tech industry, and the increasing importance of digital skills and data-driven decision making. We cover the transformation from traditional sales models to modern data-centric approaches, emphasizing the interdisciplinary nature of growth and the need for a holistic understanding of marketing, sales, finance, and analytics. Stephen outlines the foundation of a successful revenue operations strategy, stressing the importance of understanding the 'math of growth' and designing efficient commercial models. The episode provides insight into how both small and large companies can leverage these concepts to stay competitive in the rapidly changing tech landscape. 00:00 Introduction 00:47 Stephen’s Diverse Background and Revenue Enablement 02:01 Evolution of Sales and Marketing 04:26 The Digital Transformation of Sales 10:30 The Changing Job Market and Skill Requirements 13:10 Revenue Operations and Organizational Structure 24:44 The Importance of Commercial Architecture 35:11 Talent Acquisition and Development 41:19 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Follow us: LinkedIn Instagram Find Out More at SBR2TH Learn More About Stephen Diorio

August 20, 202442 min

Empowerment and Growth in Startups: Insights from Sarah Brown

John Light talks with Sarah Brown, a marketing executive and author of 'Lead Upwards,' a book addressing the roles and challenges of joiners in startups and the VC space. Sarah shares her background and the motivation behind writing her book, emphasizing the importance of growth, learning opportunities, and building meaningful relationships in the startup ecosystem. The discussion covers a range of topics including the unique culture of startups, the gap in resources for non-founder employees, and strategies for personal and professional growth in fast-paced startup environments. Both John and Sarah explore the nuances of leadership, the value of understanding board member perspectives, employee recognition beyond titles and compensation, and the significance of aligning personal goals with company growth. The conversation also touches on the importance of graceful departures and the power of empathy and connection in driving productivity and success in the tech industry. 00:00 Intro 00:25 Introducing Sarah Brown: Author and Marketing Executive 00:58 The Genesis of the Podcast and Its Mission 02:21 Sarah's Journey in the Startup Ecosystem 02:52 The Unique Challenges and Opportunities for Startup Joiners 05:30 Navigating Career Growth in the Startup World 06:49 Cultural Fit and Adaptability in Startups 08:00 The Impact of Market Dynamics on Talent Acquisition 15:14 Strategies for Personal and Professional Growth 18:32 The Dynamics of Leaving and Joining New Ventures 21:11 Maintaining Professional Relationships and Graceful Exits 22:53 Navigating Career Transitions and Notice Periods 23:37 The Importance of Graceful Exits and Preparing for Sudden Departures 24:26 Empathy in Difficult Conversations and Personal Loss 27:38 Understanding and Valuing Empathy in Business and Personal Growth 34:55 Exploring the Impact of Recognition and Growth Opportunities at Work 38:55 The Journey of Writing and the Next Steps After 'Lead Upward' Follow us: LinkedIn Instagram Find Out More at SBR2TH Learn More About Sarah Brown

August 6, 202446 min

Navigating Success: Overcoming Adversity and Building Your Personal Brand

In this episode of 'Drowning in the Tech Talent Pool,' John converses with Adriana Cowdin, a notable personal branding expert, executive career coach, and entrepreneur celebrated among the top 1 percent of women's small business owners in America. They discuss the importance of overcoming adversity, the impact of personal branding in career development, and strategies for job hunting in the modern landscape. Adriana shares her journey from being ousted at 17 to climbing the corporate ladder and facing immense health challenges, emphasizing resilience and adaptability. The conversation also delves into practical advice for individuals at various career stages, including leveraging one’s achievements to enhance their personal brand, understanding the nuances in coaching across different career levels, and the significance of aligning personal and business values for meaningful career progression. 00:00 Welcome to the Tech Talent Pool: Overcoming Challenges and Celebrating Underdogs 00:47 Introducing Adriana Cowdin: A Journey of Resilience and Success 02:34 Adriana's Story: From Hard Knocks to Executive Coaching 03:27 Embracing Challenges: Health Battles and Personal Triumphs 05:42 Creating Memories and Defining Personal Brand 09:05 The Essence of Personal Branding in Career Development 11:26 Navigating the Job Market: Strategies for Personal Branding 18:52 Practical Tips for Enhancing Your Personal Brand 24:34 Nostalgia for Old Tech and Learning Curves 25:16 The Evolution of Communication and Learning 26:11 Adapting to Modern Job Market Expectations 27:58 The Realities of AI in the Workplace 28:53 Navigating Applicant Tracking Systems and Personal Branding 34:41 The Importance of Cultural Fit in Job Searches 39:48 Leveraging Personal Branding for Career Success 44:44 Passion for Knowledge Sharing and Legacy Follow us: LinkedIn Instagram Find Out More at SBR2TH Learn More About Adriana Cowdin