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Dev Propulsion Labs

Dev Propulsion Labs

Hosted by Evil Martians

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36

Latest episode

May 2026

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Dev Propulsion Labs is a podcast about the business of developer tools, hosted by Victoria Melnikova. Victoria is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, working with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians. She sits down face-to-face in San Francisco with founders behind companies like Cursor, Sentry, Supabase, Resend, CodeRabbit, WorkOS, Elixir, and PlanetScale to talk about what actually makes developer-focused businesses work. Dev Propulsion Labs is produced by Evil Martians, a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups. Enjoyed by 45K+ listeners.

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May 12, 202657 min

Matt Biilmann of Netlify: why agent experience is the new developer experience | Evil Martians

Matt Biilmann, CEO and co-founder of Netlify (https://www.netlify.com/), sits down with Victoria Melnikova to talk about why agent experience (AX) is replacing developer experience in developer tools. He also shares how Netlify went from a bootstrapped two-person team to the deployment platform behind Bolt, Lovable, and ChatGPT-generated sites. Matt is excited by agentic coding and explains the addressable market for Netlify just jumped from 17 million JavaScript developers to 3 billion people. He shares the four pillars of agent experience (access, context, tools, and orchestration), why leading with developer experience beat leading with performance or security in Netlify's early days, and why he believes everyone is about to become at least somewhat of a developer. Victoria Melnikova is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, and host of Dev Propulsion Labs. She works with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians. https://x.com/vmelnikova_en Evil Martians is a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups. https://evilmartians.com/ Recorded at Chroma. Vector, full-text, regex, and metadata search. Develop locally and scale to petabytes in the cloud backed by object storage. Serverless search and retrieval that is fast, cheap, and reliable. https://www.trychroma.com

April 28, 202650 min

Lingo.dev co-founder Max Prilutskiy: AI localization, AX, and having a lean team | Evil Martians

Max Prilutskiy, CEO and co-founder of Lingo.dev, sits down with Victoria Melnikova to talk about why localization is still far from a solved problem in the age of AI, how a six-person team ships 56 pull requests a week, and what agent experience actually means for developer tools in 2026. He also shares his journey from a hackathon with zero ideas to Y Combinator, how 30 cold exploration calls taught him more about messaging than any sales book, and why he rebuilt the entire Lingo.dev platform from scratch in December and January. Plus, Max gives a candid take on what didn't work in go-to-market, why word of mouth remains the only reliable growth channel, and how source code is becoming the ultimate input for AI agents. Victoria Melnikova is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, and host of Dev Propulsion Labs. She works with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians. https://x.com/vmelnikova_en Evil Martians is a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups. https://evilmartians.com/devtools Recorded at Chroma. Vector, full-text, regex, and metadata search. Develop locally and scale to petabytes in the cloud backed by object storage. Serverless search and retrieval that is fast, cheap, and reliable. https://www.trychroma.com

April 14, 202659 min

Firestreak partner Amir Rustamzadeh: what VCs look for in devtools founders | Evil Martians podcast

Amir Rustamzadeh, partner at Firestreak Ventures, sits down with Victoria Melnikova to talk about how to spot a force-of-nature founder before anyone else does, why most developer tool ideas are no longer venture scale, and what the current state of VC really looks like for early-stage founders. He also shares his journey from interning on NASA's Curiosity Rover at Jet Propulsion Labs to sleeping in his car at SpaceX, to coining the developer experience role at Cypress, to becoming a hands-on investor backing companies like Lovable, Daytona, and Perplexity. Plus, Amir gives a rare, sober take on inflated seed valuations, why big-name firms at pre-seed can hurt more than help, and where he still sees opportunity in the race to build infrastructure for agents. Victoria Melnikova is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, and host of Dev Propulsion Labs. She works with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians. https://x.com/vmelnikova_en Evil Martians is a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups. https://evilmartians.com/ Recorded at Chroma. Vector, full-text, regex, and metadata search. Develop locally and scale to petabytes in the cloud backed by object storage. Serverless search and retrieval that is fast, cheap, and reliable. https://www.trychroma.com

March 24, 202646 min

Anuraag Gutgutia, co-founder of TrueFoundry: trust closes enterprise deals | Evil Martians podcast

Anuraag Gutgutia, co-founder and COO of TrueFoundry, sits down with Victoria Melnikova to talk about how to sell enterprise AI infrastructure when nobody trusts you yet, how TrueFoundry evolved from an ML deployment platform inspired by Meta's FB Learner into a full enterprise AI gateway, and why every Fortune 1000 company now can't avoid AI. He shares why trust is the only exchange currency in enterprise sales, how thought leadership and education sessions replaced cold outreach, and why voice agents are the next big niche to bet on.Victoria Melnikova is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, and host of Dev Propulsion Labs. She works with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians.https://x.com/vmelnikova_enEvil Martians is a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups.https://evilmartians.com/Recorded at Chroma. Vector, full-text, regex, and metadata search. Develop locally and scale to petabytes in the cloud backed by object storage. Serverless search and retrieval that is fast, cheap, and reliable.https://www.trychroma.com

March 10, 202658 min

Stas Kelvich, co-founder of Neon: $1B acquisition and databases for agents | Evil Martians podcast

Stas Kelvich, co-founder of Neon: $1B Databricks deal and the agent era | Evil Martians podcastIn this episode of Dev Propulsion Labs, Stas Kelvich, co-founder of Neon and member of technical staff at Databricks, shares how he went from quantum field theory to becoming a key Postgres contributor, why Neon bet on building their own cloud instead of just the database, and how the $1B Databricks acquisition closed in 30 days with 90 lawyers. He explains why Neon skipped sharding, how Replit's agents stress-tested their infrastructure overnight, and why the current moment is a gold rush for builders who stay in the loop.Victoria Melnikova is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, and host of Dev Propulsion Labs. She works with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians.https://x.com/vmelnikova_enEvil Martians is a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups.https://evilmartians.com/Recorded at Chroma. Vector, full-text, regex, and metadata search. Develop locally and scale to petabytes in the cloud backed by object storage. Serverless search and retrieval that is fast, cheap, and reliable.https://www.trychroma.com00:00 Intro00:34 Who is Stas Kelvich?01:42 From quantum physics to software engineering05:10 How Stas became a key Postgres contributor06:08 Early career: Ruby on Rails, MySQL, and Postgres06:57 Why databases as a field keep pulling him in09:47 The early days of Neon and the co-founder origin story13:42 Key bets: building the cloud, separating storage and compute16:38 Enterprise vs. product-led growth strategy18:54 Why Neon didn't solve sharding — and why that was right23:03 Designing for the agent era without planning for it25:44 How Replit's agents stress-tested Neon's infrastructure26:42 Agent experience and fraud considerations32:00 Can you tell if a database was created by an agent?33:06 The $1B Databricks acquisition story38:59 Closing the deal in 30 days with 90 lawyers40:27 Why Neon kept its brand post-acquisition43:24 Life inside Databricks one year later47:41 Market trends for technical founders in 202651:09 Using AI in day-to-day engineering work54:15 What makes Stas feel great54:49 Could AI accelerate theoretical physics research?58:06 How to get started with Neon

February 23, 202638 min

CodeRabbit CEO Harjot Gill: going viral in Japan and AI code guardrails | Evil Martians podcast

In this episode of Dev Propulsion Labs, CodeRabbit CEO Harjot Gill shares how CodeRabbit went viral in Japan before anywhere else, why AI code generation makes code review more important not less, and what it takes to run PLG and enterprise sales at the same time. He breaks down how open source became their best marketing channel, why the old startup playbooks don't work anymore, and why the next Amazon is already being founded right now.Victoria Melnikova is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, and host of Dev Propulsion Labs. She works with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians.https://x.com/vmelnikova_enEvil Martians is a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups.https://evilmartians.com/

February 10, 202649 min

David Gomes of Cursor: why half of developers still aren't using AI | Evil Martians podcast

David Gomes of Cursor: why half of developers still aren't using AI | Evil Martians podcastDavid Gomes, product engineer at Cursor, sits down with Victoria Melnikova to talk about why the world's best engineers are fully adopting AI while half of developers haven't started, why AI coding is a learnable skill that takes practice, and how he built a 50-person engineering team in Portugal from scratch. He shares what it was like going through Neon's $1B Databricks acquisition, why diverse teams outperform business-obsessed ones, and why his next company will be his own.Victoria Melnikova is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, and host of Dev Propulsion Labs. She works with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians.https://x.com/vmelnikova_enEvil Martians is a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups.https://evilmartians.com/Recorded at Chroma. Vector, full-text, regex, and metadata search. Develop locally and scale to petabytes in the cloud backed by object storage. Serverless search and retrieval that is fast, cheap, and reliable.https://www.trychroma.com00:00 Introduction and guest welcome01:44 Current state of AI-assisted coding and market adoption03:33 Developer resistance to change: senior vs junior engineers05:19 World's best engineers fully adopting AI coding07:36 Having personalized workflows08:19 Different engineering styles inside Cursor10:42 AI coding as a learnable skill requiring practice14:12 Future of agent coding and AI SREs15:35 Growing up in Europe vs living in America19:27 David's career path: competitive programming to SF26:17 Building a 50-person engineering team in Portugal29:50 Working at Neon and the $1B Databricks acquisition32:50 Why developer tools experience is universal39:35 Having a diverse team of engineers42:05 Leveraging your coworkers' strengths44:00 David's blog and writing philosophy46:00 The engineer-manager pendulum and startup ambitions47:23 Customer love as the only metric that matters48:34 Try Cursor with Neon and Databricks MCP servers

January 26, 202646 min

Monica Sarbu, founder of Xata: rebuilding Xata and why diverse teams win | Evil Martians podcast

Monica Sarbu, founder of Xata: rebuilding Xata and why diverse teams win | Evil Martians podcastMonica Sarbu, founder and CEO of Xata, sits down with Victoria Melnikova to talk about how Xata pivoted from an Airtable-style builder tool to a modern Postgres platform focused on database branching and developer velocity. She shares why they rebuilt the platform from scratch, how asking "what's your biggest problem?" instead of "what's your problem with Postgres?" changed everything, and why hiring a gender-diverse team with complementary skills leads to better products.Victoria Melnikova is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, and host of Dev Propulsion Labs. She works with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians.https://x.com/vmelnikova_enEvil Martians is a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups.https://evilmartians.com/Recorded at Chroma. Vector, full-text, regex, and metadata search. Develop locally and scale to petabytes in the cloud backed by object storage. Serverless search and retrieval that is fast, cheap, and reliable.https://www.trychroma.com

January 12, 202635 min

Piyush Agarwal, co-founder of Reo.dev: intent signals and devtool GTM | Evil Martians podcast

Piyush Agarwal, co-founder of Reo.dev, sits down with Victoria Melnikova to talk about why go-to-market is the hardest unsolved problem in developer tools, how companies can have millions of open-source users and still not know who their customers are, and why timing beats volume when selling to developers. He shares how three months of nonstop customer conversations shaped Reo.dev, why their first product was a Google Sheet, and how intent signals turned a 2% response rate into 26%.Victoria Melnikova is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, and host of Dev Propulsion Labs. She works with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians.https://x.com/vmelnikova_enEvil Martians is a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups.https://evilmartians.com/Recorded at Chroma. Vector, full-text, regex, and metadata search. Develop locally and scale to petabytes in the cloud backed by object storage. Serverless search and retrieval that is fast, cheap, and reliable.https://www.trychroma.com

December 16, 202554 min

David Cramer, founder of Sentry: building for the Fortune 500,000 | Evil Martians podcast

David Cramer, founder of Sentry, sits down with Victoria Melnikova to talk about how he built a developer tool used by 4 million+ developers without partnerships or enterprise sales — purely through bottom-up adoption and mass-market pricing. He explains why 20-year-olds should stop starting companies and go learn from other people's mistakes first, how he delegated both CEO and CTO roles while keeping immense influence without a title, and why Sentry builds for the Fortune 500,000 instead of the Fortune 500.Victoria Melnikova is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, and host of Dev Propulsion Labs. She works with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians.https://x.com/vmelnikova_enEvil Martians is a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups.https://evilmartians.com/Recorded at Chroma. Vector, full-text, regex, and metadata search. Develop locally and scale to petabytes in the cloud backed by object storage. Serverless search and retrieval that is fast, cheap, and reliable.https://www.trychroma.com

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